From wes.parish at paradise.net.nz  Sat Aug  2 22:20:24 2003
From: wes.parish at paradise.net.nz (Wesley Parish)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 00:20:24 +1200
Subject: [pups] Cheriton, Zed, and Thoth
Message-ID: <200308030020.25263.wes.parish@paradise.net.nz>

I came across his book a few days ago in the Computer Science section of the 
University of Canterbury (NZ) Library.

Does anyone know what happened to it?  Where it disappeared to, etc?

Zed, for example, is another BCPL derivative, so I feel right at home with it.

Wesley Parish
-- 
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."

From wes.parish at paradise.net.nz  Sat Aug  2 22:20:24 2003
From: wes.parish at paradise.net.nz (Wesley Parish)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 00:20:24 +1200
Subject: [TUHS] Cheriton, Zed, and Thoth
Message-ID: <200308030020.25263.wes.parish@paradise.net.nz>

I came across his book a few days ago in the Computer Science section of the 
University of Canterbury (NZ) Library.

Does anyone know what happened to it?  Where it disappeared to, etc?

Zed, for example, is another BCPL derivative, so I feel right at home with it.

Wesley Parish
-- 
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."

From bwc at coraid.com  Sat Aug  2 23:05:36 2003
From: bwc at coraid.com (bwc at coraid.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:05:36 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] speaking of Zed...
Message-ID: <b20913d55a6c13e3f7eee1a1055eed73@coraid.com>

More than 20 years ago I worked on a CDC minicomputer the Cyber 18/30.  I heard
about an operating system for it that used Zed.  Does anyone know about it?
 Brantley

From aek at spies.com  Sun Aug  3 11:46:11 2003
From: aek at spies.com (Al Kossow)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:46:11 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Cheriton, Zed, and Thoth
Message-ID: <200308030146.h731kBkY023828@spies.com>


I came across his book a few days ago in the Computer Science section of the 
University of Canterbury (NZ) Library.

Does anyone know what happened to it?  Where it disappeared to, etc?

--

"The Thoth System: Multi-Process Stucturing and Portability"

Prof Cheriton has been on the faculty of Stanford University since
the early 80's. The book was derived from his PhD thesis at the
University of Waterloo.

I emailed him about a year ago asking exactly this question, since
I was looking for software to run on a TI990 minicomputer, and it's
gone.. He didn't really want to even talk much about it.

The Stanford V-System is the closest descendent of Thoth. Even that
may be difficult to find.

From JStevens at prcnet.com  Sat Aug  9 08:14:56 2003
From: JStevens at prcnet.com (JStevens at prcnet.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 18:14:56 -0400 
Subject: [TUHS] v6on286
Message-ID: <960567643238154CB8EC909ED1138931086B8703@pagg1exch2>

I just downloaded the source, and after much scrounging around I found my
old Borland 3.1 compiler.. I built the un.exe, and it does the same thing..
blank  screen, and off to nowhere... so I started to add some printf's...
 
Such as this bit in ken\main.c
 
            craftproc();
            printf("main.c craftproc()\n");
            initdevices();
            printf("main.c initdevices()\n");
            cinit();
            printf("main.c cinit()\n");
            binit();
            printf("main.c binit()\n");
 
 
and I modified dmr\cov.c
 
initvid()
        {
//      if (video==1)
//              (gdt_beg+6)->base_l =0;
        outbyte (VIDCA,VIDCSTART);
        outbyte (VIDCD,0);
        outbyte (VIDCA,VIDCEND);
        outbyte (VIDCD,14);
        outbyte (VIDCA,VIDADDRL);
        outbyte (VIDCD,0);
        outbyte (VIDCA,VIDADDRH);
        outbyte (VIDCD,0);
//      clear_screen(vd_attr);
        cosilence();
        }
 
so I could see some more.. it seems to initialize ok under virtual PC.. I
think the next thing is to dig for some more info on the 1st task.. My Lyons
book is somewhere as I want to create a dummy task that prints "a", and a
second one that prints "b", so I can test the scheduler and get
"abababababba" or something like that..
 
Another thing I noticed after trying to build the userland is that crt0.asm
is missing.. I'm too much of a newbie to construct that though.. Anyways
I'll try to get further this weekend either with my Lyons book, or with v6
on simh.
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From JStevens at prcnet.com  Tue Aug 12 04:38:59 2003
From: JStevens at prcnet.com (JStevens at prcnet.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:38:59 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] v6on286
Message-ID: <960567643238154CB8EC909ED1138931086B8711@pagg1exch2>

FYI the reason why it locks is the 286 multi-tasking is busted.. if you
comment out the iret in ken/slp.c it goes further, but it's busted none the
less...
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From masouds at stormbird.org  Thu Aug 28 04:53:21 2003
From: masouds at stormbird.org (masouds at stormbird.org)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:53:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TUHS] V7 on i386?
Message-ID: <40589.216.191.248.101.1062010401.squirrel@www.stormbird.org>

Hello,
I was looking through mailing list archives for any attempts of porting
UNIX V7 to i386. I saw a discussion of it at
http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2002-January/000071.html where Some
brave soul tries to port V6 to i386; Does anyone know whether or not
anything came out of it?
cheers,
Masoud
PS: needless to say, I've recently joined this mailing list.




From macbiesz at optonline.net  Thu Aug 28 12:47:44 2003
From: macbiesz at optonline.net (Maciek Bieszczad)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:47:44 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] V7 on i386?
In-Reply-To: <40589.216.191.248.101.1062010401.squirrel@www.stormbird.org>
Message-ID: <000001c36d0e$c24a12f0$03fea8c0@maciek>

http://www.southern-storm.com.au/v7upgrade.html

Quote from the site: "This site contains a copy of the Version 7 Unix
sources, upgraded to conform with modern C conventions."

There's also V6on286, see:
ftp://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixArchive/Other/V6on286/. Refer to the previous
"v6on286" posts this month.

--
Maciek (macbiesz at optonline.net)

-----Original Message-----
From: tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org]
On Behalf Of masouds at stormbird.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:53 PM
To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] V7 on i386?

Hello,
I was looking through mailing list archives for any attempts of porting
UNIX V7 to i386. I saw a discussion of it at
http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2002-January/000071.html where
Some
brave soul tries to port V6 to i386; Does anyone know whether or not
anything came out of it?
cheers,
Masoud
PS: needless to say, I've recently joined this mailing list.


