From SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com  Mon May  3 07:42:47 1999
From: SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:42:47 -0400
Subject: Usenix archives?
Message-ID: <990502174247.20c01252@trailing-edge.com>

A rescue yesterday yielded several 9-tracks claiming to be Usenix
collections from the late 70's and early 80's.  Are there any Usenix
collections online that might be interested in copies?  If not, would 
this material be appropriate for the PUPS archive, possibly in a trimmed 
or edited form?

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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au  Mon May  3 09:03:24 1999
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:03:24 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Usenix archives?
In-Reply-To: <990502174247.20c01252@trailing-edge.com> from Tim Shoppa at "May 2, 1999  5:42:47 pm"
Message-ID: <199905022303.JAA41888@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au>

In article by Tim Shoppa:
> A rescue yesterday yielded several 9-tracks claiming to be Usenix
> collections from the late 70's and early 80's.  Are there any Usenix
> collections online that might be interested in copies?  If not, would 
> this material be appropriate for the PUPS archive, possibly in a trimmed 
> or edited form?

Hi Tim, yes I think those tapes would be excellent material for the
PUPS Archive. We already have some Usenix tapes in the archive:

2616    Applications/Usenix_77/ug091377-ar.tar.gz
10208   Applications/Spencer_Tapes/del.tar.gz
2688    Applications/Spencer_Tapes/tor79.tar.gz

but of course more would be welcome. I'd be happy to take them untrimmed :-)

Thanks!
	Warren

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From eric at fudge.uchicago.edu  Tue May  4 01:41:11 1999
From: eric at fudge.uchicago.edu (Eric Fischer)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:41:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: SunOS 0.4 tape
Message-ID: <199905031541.KAA10922@fudge.uchicago.edu>

When sorting through old things in the machine room here recently,
Job Bogan came across an early QIC tape of SunOS.  The label reads:

    Sun UNIX 4.2* Software Release 0.4
          (*Berkeley Beta Release)
    1/4" Boot Tape 1 of 2 700-0585-01
    copyright (c) 1983 Sun Microsystems

Unfortunately, when I attempted to read the tape, all I got was a
tar file of a Fortran program dating from 1989.  It didn't get very
far into the tape, though, so parts of the original software may
still be present -- but I don't know how to get past the end-of-tape
mark to get at them.  Any ideas?

By the way, the Sun 1 that this tape goes with still exists, elsewhere
on campus, but hasn't been in usable condition in years.

eric

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From SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com  Tue May  4 02:29:16 1999
From: SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:29:16 -0400
Subject: SunOS 0.4 tape
Message-ID: <990503122916.20c010f3@trailing-edge.com>

>When sorting through old things in the machine room here recently,
>Job Bogan came across an early QIC tape of SunOS.  The label reads:
>
>    Sun UNIX 4.2* Software Release 0.4
>          (*Berkeley Beta Release)
>    1/4" Boot Tape 1 of 2 700-0585-01
>    copyright (c) 1983 Sun Microsystems
>
>Unfortunately, when I attempted to read the tape, all I got was a
>tar file of a Fortran program dating from 1989.

So presumably someone decided to re-use this tape - and we hope they
didn't reformat the tape first.

>  It didn't get very
>far into the tape, though, so parts of the original software may
>still be present -- but I don't know how to get past the end-of-tape
>mark to get at them.  Any ideas?

QIC tape formats have physical sectors that the controller (in your
case, most likely the SCSI controller that interfaces the drive to
your SCSI bus) presents to the rest of the system as a series of
logical tape records and tape marks.  You can't get past the logical
end-of-tape because the SCSI controller (not host adapter!) "knows"
there's nothing past the logical end-of-tape.  If you bypass this
by going straight to the physical sectors, you can read the data
following logical end-of-tape, assuming that the cartridge was
never reformatted.  Most SCSI QIC tape controllers will let you
get at the physical sectors, but this is rarely supported by the OS
and isn't always consistent from model to model and manufacturer
to manufacturer.

QIC tape standards are pretty well documented at http://www.qic.org/.
For details on how your SCSI QIC drive can be forced to access
physical sectors, it's best to go straight to the drive manufacturer's
technical manuals.

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From harker at harker.com  Thu May  6 08:53:47 1999
From: harker at harker.com (Robert Harker, 408-295-9432)
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: UNIX Heritage Society Digest V1 #78
Message-ID: <199905052253.PAA23398@harker.harker.com>

The standard SunOS comand to move the tape is
	mt -f /dev/nrst0 rew
	mt -f /dev/nrst0 fsf 1
You need to use the non-rewinding device, /dev/nrst0, not /dev/rst0 which
rewinds the tape automatically.

Then you might try either
	tar tvfb /dev/nrst0 20b
or	dd if=/dev/nrst0 of=dd.out.file bs=20b

Trying to recall what the format of the files on the sun
tape were. Humm.... Wonder if I still have my copy tape script....
Rummage around with find... found it.

It is attached at the end.  A pretty stupid script now that I look at it.
But it did the trick to copy tapes from disk dd images.  I leave it as
an excersize to write the script to copy the tape to disk.  BTW, the tapes
were only 20 Mb in those days.

Hope this helps

RLH

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#! /bin/sh

mt -f /dev/rst8 ret
dd if=/dev/rst8 of=tape1.file0 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 1
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file1 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 2
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file2 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 3
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file3 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 4
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file4 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 5
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file5 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 6
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file6 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 7
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file7 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 8
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file8 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 9
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file9 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 10
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file10 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 11
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file11 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 12
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file12 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 13
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file13 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 14
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file14 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 15
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file15 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew


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From harker at harker.com  Thu May  6 08:56:32 1999
From: harker at harker.com (Robert Harker, 408-295-9432)
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:56:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: TOC of Sun3 SunOS 4.1.1 tapes
Message-ID: <199905052256.PAA23418@harker.harker.com>

While rummaging I found this.  Thought some one might find it useful.

Hope this helps

RLH

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SunOS 4.1.1 700-2719-10 of Sun Oct 14 16:11:25 PDT 1990 from Sun Release Engineering
ARCH sun3
VOLUME 1
 Vol File             Name       Size	Type
   1    0             boot      32768	image
   1    1           XDRTOC       4096	toc
   1    2            munix     729600	image
   1    3     munixfs.tape    1638400	image
   1    4        mini-root    7168000	image
   1    5             root      74309	tarZ
   1    6              usr   11609002	tarZ
   1    7              Kvm    2042991	tarZ
   1    8          Install     375409	tarZ
   1    9       Networking     368239	tarZ
   1   10         System_V    1624303	tarZ
   1   11              Sys    1824146	tarZ
   1   12    SunView_Users     978709	tarZ
   1   13     SunView_Demo     196393	tarZ
   1   14             Text     286755	tarZ
   1   15             Demo    2132420	tarZ
   1   16 OpenWindows_Users   10627838	tarZ
   1   17 OpenWindows_Demo    2235385	tarZ
   1   18 OpenWindows_Fonts    7180441	tarZ
   1   19        User_Diag    1362467	tarZ
   1   20           Manual    2653437	tarZ
   1   21              TLI      18976	tarZ
   1   22              RFS     338005	tarZ
   1   23        Debugging    1141193	tarZ
   1   24 SunView_Programmers     696087	tarZ
   1   25     Shlib_Custom     748155	tarZ
   1   26         Graphics    1219433	tarZ
   1   27             uucp     226513	tarZ
   1   28        Copyright       1536	image
   2    0           XDRTOC       4096	toc
   2    1           XDRTOC       4096	toc
   2    2            Games    1558603	tarZ
   2    3         Versatec    2383297	tarZ
   2    4         Security     203109	tarZ
   2    5 OpenWindows_Programmers    3916907	tarZ
   2    6        Patch_IPC     139264	tarZ
   2    7    Patch_C++_2.0    2953216	tarZ
   2    8       Patch_TAAC      20480	tarZ
   2    9        Copyright       1536	image

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From harker at harker.com  Thu May  6 08:59:03 1999
From: harker at harker.com (Robert Harker, 408-295-9432)
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:59:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Looking for Sun2 Multibus SCSI board
Message-ID: <199905052259.PAA23434@harker.harker.com>

I am looking for a Sun2 Mutlibus SCSI board, no cables.  Will give it a good
home, pay money (some), or trade for other Sun2 Mutlibus stuff.  If you need
Sun2 Mutlibus boards I have some spares.  Drop a request.

Thanks in advance

RLH

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From joerg at cs.waikato.ac.nz  Thu May  6 15:09:17 1999
From: joerg at cs.waikato.ac.nz (Joerg Micheel)
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:09:17 +1200
Subject: Interview with Ken Thompson in COMPUTER
Message-ID: <19990506170917.A1630@cs.waikato.ac.nz>

Hi there,

I found this one quite interesting reading:

	http://computer.org/computer/thompson.htm

	Joerg
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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au  Thu May  6 15:12:40 1999
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:12:40 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Interview with Ken Thompson in COMPUTER
In-Reply-To: <19990506170917.A1630@cs.waikato.ac.nz> from Joerg Micheel at "May 6, 1999  5: 9:17 pm"
Message-ID: <199905060512.PAA10788@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au>

In article by Joerg Micheel:
> Hi there,
> 
> I found this one quite interesting reading:
> 
> 	http://computer.org/computer/thompson.htm
>Joerg

Yes, I should link it on the PUPS/TUHS pages.

Thanks Joerg.


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From rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu  Thu May  6 23:27:29 1999
From: rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu (rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu)
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:27:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TOC of Sun3 SunOS 4.1.1 tapes (what about sunos 4.1???)
In-Reply-To: <199905052256.PAA23418@harker.harker.com> from "Robert Harker, 408-295-9432" at May 5, 99 03:56:32 pm
Message-ID: <199905061327.JAA05939@cc01du.unity.ncsu.edu>

> While rummaging I found this.  Thought some one might find it useful.

Yes indeedy....  I had a paper copy of that, but it is nice to get an
electronic copy.

> SunOS 4.1.1 700-2719-10 of Sun Oct 14 16:11:25 PDT 1990 from Sun Release Engineering
> ARCH sun3
> VOLUME 1
>  Vol File             Name       Size	Type
>    1    0             boot      32768	image
>    1    1           XDRTOC       4096	toc
>    1    2            munix     729600	image
>    1    3     munixfs.tape    1638400	image


Speaking of 4.1.1 bits, I have a 4.1 tape for the early sun4 machines
that has bad spots in the usr file system and beyond on Tape 1 of 2.
Up to that point (the first 6 files) tape 1 is fine, and tape 2 is fine.
Anyone have the usr tarballs and later from a sun4 sunos 4.1 tape 1
that I could use to rewrite my tape?  Right now I a using bits from
the 4.1.1 CD, but it would be nice to have the original 4.1 files
so that I could fully rewrite the tape with the correct bits.  What I
would like to do is pull the reels out of a good fresh tape, and
put them into the Sun badged cartridge, and rewrite it.  My 4/260
box would be much appreciative, for the long haul.

Any suggestions or leads to the mystical files are appreciated.

Is there a tally of how many of us are doing the old vme sun bit?
I run 3 12-slot boxes and 1 3-slot box, with 3/110, 3/160, 3/200,
4/110, 4/260 configurations, depending upon how the boards are swapped
on any given day.

Yeah, I know, it ain't one of our treasured PDP-11 toyz, but it a lot
easier to find in the dustbins here and there.....(:+}}...

Bob Keys


From msokolov at harrier.Uznet.NET  Tue May 25 06:23:56 1999
From: msokolov at harrier.Uznet.NET (Michael Sokolov)
Date: 24 May 1999   20:23:56 GMT
Subject: Removing VAXBI and XMI boards
Message-ID: <199905242024.BAA00780@harrier.Uznet.NET>

Hello everyone,

As I'm trying to determine the exact configuration of the VAX 6000 I have just
acquired, I have the following very stupid question: how in the world do you
pull a VAXBI or XMI board out of the backplane? It's definitely nothing like
any UNIBUS or Q-bus stuff I have worked with so far. UNIBUS and Q-bus both use
Mxxxx series modules, but VAXBI and XMI use Txxxx series ones, which look quite
different mechanically. There is a long black bar hanging over each slot,
including empty ones, but no fiddling with it makes the board come out. Could
someone please explain to me how to pull VAXBI and XMI boards out and put them
back in? TIA.

Special Agent Michael Sokolov
Harhan Computer Operation Facility
International Free Computing Task Force
Phone: +1-216-761-3656
ARPA Internet SMTP mail: msokolov at harrier.Uznet.NET



From svs at ropnet.ru  Wed May 26 02:45:22 1999
From: svs at ropnet.ru (Sergey Svishchev)
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:45:22 +0400
Subject: Removing VAXBI and XMI boards
In-Reply-To: <199905242024.BAA00780@harrier.Uznet.NET>; from Michael Sokolov on Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:23:56PM +0000
References: <199905242024.BAA00780@harrier.Uznet.NET>
Message-ID: <19990525204522.10461@firepower>

On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:23:56PM +0000, Michael Sokolov wrote:

> different mechanically. There is a long black bar hanging over each slot,
> including empty ones, but no fiddling with it makes the board come out. Could
> someone please explain to me how to pull VAXBI and XMI boards out and put them
> back in? TIA.

Pull this lever harder.

-- 
Sergey Svishchev -- svs{at}ropnet{dot}ru


From SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com  Mon May  3 07:42:47 1999
From: SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:42:47 -0400
Subject: Usenix archives?
Message-ID: <990502174247.20c01252@trailing-edge.com>

A rescue yesterday yielded several 9-tracks claiming to be Usenix
collections from the late 70's and early 80's.  Are there any Usenix
collections online that might be interested in copies?  If not, would 
this material be appropriate for the PUPS archive, possibly in a trimmed 
or edited form?

-- 
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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au  Mon May  3 09:03:24 1999
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:03:24 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Usenix archives?
In-Reply-To: <990502174247.20c01252@trailing-edge.com> from Tim Shoppa at "May 2, 1999  5:42:47 pm"
Message-ID: <199905022303.JAA41888@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au>

In article by Tim Shoppa:
> A rescue yesterday yielded several 9-tracks claiming to be Usenix
> collections from the late 70's and early 80's.  Are there any Usenix
> collections online that might be interested in copies?  If not, would 
> this material be appropriate for the PUPS archive, possibly in a trimmed 
> or edited form?

Hi Tim, yes I think those tapes would be excellent material for the
PUPS Archive. We already have some Usenix tapes in the archive:

2616    Applications/Usenix_77/ug091377-ar.tar.gz
10208   Applications/Spencer_Tapes/del.tar.gz
2688    Applications/Spencer_Tapes/tor79.tar.gz

but of course more would be welcome. I'd be happy to take them untrimmed :-)

Thanks!
	Warren

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From eric at fudge.uchicago.edu  Tue May  4 01:41:11 1999
From: eric at fudge.uchicago.edu (Eric Fischer)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:41:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: SunOS 0.4 tape
Message-ID: <199905031541.KAA10922@fudge.uchicago.edu>

When sorting through old things in the machine room here recently,
Job Bogan came across an early QIC tape of SunOS.  The label reads:

    Sun UNIX 4.2* Software Release 0.4
          (*Berkeley Beta Release)
    1/4" Boot Tape 1 of 2 700-0585-01
    copyright (c) 1983 Sun Microsystems

Unfortunately, when I attempted to read the tape, all I got was a
tar file of a Fortran program dating from 1989.  It didn't get very
far into the tape, though, so parts of the original software may
still be present -- but I don't know how to get past the end-of-tape
mark to get at them.  Any ideas?

By the way, the Sun 1 that this tape goes with still exists, elsewhere
on campus, but hasn't been in usable condition in years.

eric

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From SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com  Tue May  4 02:29:16 1999
From: SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:29:16 -0400
Subject: SunOS 0.4 tape
Message-ID: <990503122916.20c010f3@trailing-edge.com>

>When sorting through old things in the machine room here recently,
>Job Bogan came across an early QIC tape of SunOS.  The label reads:
>
>    Sun UNIX 4.2* Software Release 0.4
>          (*Berkeley Beta Release)
>    1/4" Boot Tape 1 of 2 700-0585-01
>    copyright (c) 1983 Sun Microsystems
>
>Unfortunately, when I attempted to read the tape, all I got was a
>tar file of a Fortran program dating from 1989.

So presumably someone decided to re-use this tape - and we hope they
didn't reformat the tape first.

>  It didn't get very
>far into the tape, though, so parts of the original software may
>still be present -- but I don't know how to get past the end-of-tape
>mark to get at them.  Any ideas?

QIC tape formats have physical sectors that the controller (in your
case, most likely the SCSI controller that interfaces the drive to
your SCSI bus) presents to the rest of the system as a series of
logical tape records and tape marks.  You can't get past the logical
end-of-tape because the SCSI controller (not host adapter!) "knows"
there's nothing past the logical end-of-tape.  If you bypass this
by going straight to the physical sectors, you can read the data
following logical end-of-tape, assuming that the cartridge was
never reformatted.  Most SCSI QIC tape controllers will let you
get at the physical sectors, but this is rarely supported by the OS
and isn't always consistent from model to model and manufacturer
to manufacturer.

QIC tape standards are pretty well documented at http://www.qic.org/.
For details on how your SCSI QIC drive can be forced to access
physical sectors, it's best to go straight to the drive manufacturer's
technical manuals.

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From harker at harker.com  Thu May  6 08:53:47 1999
From: harker at harker.com (Robert Harker, 408-295-9432)
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: UNIX Heritage Society Digest V1 #78
Message-ID: <199905052253.PAA23398@harker.harker.com>

The standard SunOS comand to move the tape is
	mt -f /dev/nrst0 rew
	mt -f /dev/nrst0 fsf 1
You need to use the non-rewinding device, /dev/nrst0, not /dev/rst0 which
rewinds the tape automatically.

Then you might try either
	tar tvfb /dev/nrst0 20b
or	dd if=/dev/nrst0 of=dd.out.file bs=20b

Trying to recall what the format of the files on the sun
tape were. Humm.... Wonder if I still have my copy tape script....
Rummage around with find... found it.

It is attached at the end.  A pretty stupid script now that I look at it.
But it did the trick to copy tapes from disk dd images.  I leave it as
an excersize to write the script to copy the tape to disk.  BTW, the tapes
were only 20 Mb in those days.

Hope this helps

RLH

Proud owner of a Sun 100U

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#! /bin/sh

mt -f /dev/rst8 ret
dd if=/dev/rst8 of=tape1.file0 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 1
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file1 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 2
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file2 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 3
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file3 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 4
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file4 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 5
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file5 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 6
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file6 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 7
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file7 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 8
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file8 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 9
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file9 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 10
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file10 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 11
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file11 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 12
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file12 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 13
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file13 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 14
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file14 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew

mt -f /dev/nrst8 fsf 15
dd if=/dev/nrst8 of=tape1.file15 bs=126b
mt -f /dev/rst8 rew


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From: harker at harker.com (Robert Harker, 408-295-9432)
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:56:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: TOC of Sun3 SunOS 4.1.1 tapes
Message-ID: <199905052256.PAA23418@harker.harker.com>

While rummaging I found this.  Thought some one might find it useful.

Hope this helps

RLH

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SunOS 4.1.1 700-2719-10 of Sun Oct 14 16:11:25 PDT 1990 from Sun Release Engineering
ARCH sun3
VOLUME 1
 Vol File             Name       Size	Type
   1    0             boot      32768	image
   1    1           XDRTOC       4096	toc
   1    2            munix     729600	image
   1    3     munixfs.tape    1638400	image
   1    4        mini-root    7168000	image
   1    5             root      74309	tarZ
   1    6              usr   11609002	tarZ
   1    7              Kvm    2042991	tarZ
   1    8          Install     375409	tarZ
   1    9       Networking     368239	tarZ
   1   10         System_V    1624303	tarZ
   1   11              Sys    1824146	tarZ
   1   12    SunView_Users     978709	tarZ
   1   13     SunView_Demo     196393	tarZ
   1   14             Text     286755	tarZ
   1   15             Demo    2132420	tarZ
   1   16 OpenWindows_Users   10627838	tarZ
   1   17 OpenWindows_Demo    2235385	tarZ
   1   18 OpenWindows_Fonts    7180441	tarZ
   1   19        User_Diag    1362467	tarZ
   1   20           Manual    2653437	tarZ
   1   21              TLI      18976	tarZ
   1   22              RFS     338005	tarZ
   1   23        Debugging    1141193	tarZ
   1   24 SunView_Programmers     696087	tarZ
   1   25     Shlib_Custom     748155	tarZ
   1   26         Graphics    1219433	tarZ
   1   27             uucp     226513	tarZ
   1   28        Copyright       1536	image
   2    0           XDRTOC       4096	toc
   2    1           XDRTOC       4096	toc
   2    2            Games    1558603	tarZ
   2    3         Versatec    2383297	tarZ
   2    4         Security     203109	tarZ
   2    5 OpenWindows_Programmers    3916907	tarZ
   2    6        Patch_IPC     139264	tarZ
   2    7    Patch_C++_2.0    2953216	tarZ
   2    8       Patch_TAAC      20480	tarZ
   2    9        Copyright       1536	image

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From harker at harker.com  Thu May  6 08:59:03 1999
From: harker at harker.com (Robert Harker, 408-295-9432)
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:59:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Looking for Sun2 Multibus SCSI board
Message-ID: <199905052259.PAA23434@harker.harker.com>

I am looking for a Sun2 Mutlibus SCSI board, no cables.  Will give it a good
home, pay money (some), or trade for other Sun2 Mutlibus stuff.  If you need
Sun2 Mutlibus boards I have some spares.  Drop a request.

Thanks in advance

RLH

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From joerg at cs.waikato.ac.nz  Thu May  6 15:09:17 1999
From: joerg at cs.waikato.ac.nz (Joerg Micheel)
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:09:17 +1200
Subject: Interview with Ken Thompson in COMPUTER
Message-ID: <19990506170917.A1630@cs.waikato.ac.nz>

Hi there,

I found this one quite interesting reading:

	http://computer.org/computer/thompson.htm

	Joerg
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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au  Thu May  6 15:12:40 1999
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:12:40 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Interview with Ken Thompson in COMPUTER
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Message-ID: <199905060512.PAA10788@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au>

In article by Joerg Micheel:
> Hi there,
> 
> I found this one quite interesting reading:
> 
> 	http://computer.org/computer/thompson.htm
>Joerg

Yes, I should link it on the PUPS/TUHS pages.

Thanks Joerg.


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From rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu  Thu May  6 23:27:29 1999
From: rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu (rdkeys at unity.ncsu.edu)
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:27:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TOC of Sun3 SunOS 4.1.1 tapes (what about sunos 4.1???)
In-Reply-To: <199905052256.PAA23418@harker.harker.com> from "Robert Harker, 408-295-9432" at May 5, 99 03:56:32 pm
Message-ID: <199905061327.JAA05939@cc01du.unity.ncsu.edu>

> While rummaging I found this.  Thought some one might find it useful.

Yes indeedy....  I had a paper copy of that, but it is nice to get an
electronic copy.

> SunOS 4.1.1 700-2719-10 of Sun Oct 14 16:11:25 PDT 1990 from Sun Release Engineering
> ARCH sun3
> VOLUME 1
>  Vol File             Name       Size	Type
>    1    0             boot      32768	image
>    1    1           XDRTOC       4096	toc
>    1    2            munix     729600	image
>    1    3     munixfs.tape    1638400	image


Speaking of 4.1.1 bits, I have a 4.1 tape for the early sun4 machines
that has bad spots in the usr file system and beyond on Tape 1 of 2.
Up to that point (the first 6 files) tape 1 is fine, and tape 2 is fine.
Anyone have the usr tarballs and later from a sun4 sunos 4.1 tape 1
that I could use to rewrite my tape?  Right now I a using bits from
the 4.1.1 CD, but it would be nice to have the original 4.1 files
so that I could fully rewrite the tape with the correct bits.  What I
would like to do is pull the reels out of a good fresh tape, and
put them into the Sun badged cartridge, and rewrite it.  My 4/260
box would be much appreciative, for the long haul.

Any suggestions or leads to the mystical files are appreciated.

Is there a tally of how many of us are doing the old vme sun bit?
I run 3 12-slot boxes and 1 3-slot box, with 3/110, 3/160, 3/200,
4/110, 4/260 configurations, depending upon how the boards are swapped
on any given day.

Yeah, I know, it ain't one of our treasured PDP-11 toyz, but it a lot
easier to find in the dustbins here and there.....(:+}}...

Bob Keys


From msokolov at harrier.Uznet.NET  Tue May 25 06:23:56 1999
From: msokolov at harrier.Uznet.NET (Michael Sokolov)
Date: 24 May 1999   20:23:56 GMT
Subject: Removing VAXBI and XMI boards
Message-ID: <199905242024.BAA00780@harrier.Uznet.NET>

Hello everyone,

As I'm trying to determine the exact configuration of the VAX 6000 I have just
acquired, I have the following very stupid question: how in the world do you
pull a VAXBI or XMI board out of the backplane? It's definitely nothing like
any UNIBUS or Q-bus stuff I have worked with so far. UNIBUS and Q-bus both use
Mxxxx series modules, but VAXBI and XMI use Txxxx series ones, which look quite
different mechanically. There is a long black bar hanging over each slot,
including empty ones, but no fiddling with it makes the board come out. Could
someone please explain to me how to pull VAXBI and XMI boards out and put them
back in? TIA.

Special Agent Michael Sokolov
Harhan Computer Operation Facility
International Free Computing Task Force
Phone: +1-216-761-3656
ARPA Internet SMTP mail: msokolov at harrier.Uznet.NET



From svs at ropnet.ru  Wed May 26 02:45:22 1999
From: svs at ropnet.ru (Sergey Svishchev)
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:45:22 +0400
Subject: Removing VAXBI and XMI boards
In-Reply-To: <199905242024.BAA00780@harrier.Uznet.NET>; from Michael Sokolov on Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:23:56PM +0000
References: <199905242024.BAA00780@harrier.Uznet.NET>
Message-ID: <19990525204522.10461@firepower>

On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:23:56PM +0000, Michael Sokolov wrote:

> different mechanically. There is a long black bar hanging over each slot,
> including empty ones, but no fiddling with it makes the board come out. Could
> someone please explain to me how to pull VAXBI and XMI boards out and put them
> back in? TIA.

Pull this lever harder.

-- 
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