From wkt at csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au  Tue Dec  3 11:27:36 1996
From: wkt at csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:27:36 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Simulator 2.2d release with demonstration software (fwd)
Message-ID: <9612030127.AA10609@dolphin>

[You must read this! Warren]
----- Forwarded message from Bob Supnik -----

From: Bob Supnik <bob.supnik at ljo.dec.com>
Subject: Simulator 2.2d release with demonstration software
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:56:40 -0500

This notice is being posted today in relevant Usenet conferences. 
Thanks for your help in reaching a major milestone!

Computer History Simulators V2.2d: Release Notes

V2.2d is a major release of the simulators for the Computer History 
project.  It includes simulators for:

	- Data General Nova
	- Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-8
	- Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-11
	- Digital Equipment Corporation 18b PDP's
	  (PDP-4, PDP-7, PDP-9, PDP-15)
	- IBM 1401

These simulators are freeware.  They are intended for personal or 
educational use and are provided on an as-is basis.  Support is not 
available, and commercial use is prohibited.  See the documentation 
for debug status for each simulator.

This release also includes demonstration software for the PDP-8, 
PDP-11, and Nova:

	- RDOS V7.5 for the Nova
	- OS/8 for the PDP-8
	- UNIX V5, V6, and V7 for the PDP-11
	
The demonstration software is provided for personal, non-commercial 
use, under license from its current owners (Data General for RDOS, 
Digital Equipment Corporation for OS/8, and the Santa Cruz Operation 
for UNIX).  Please be sure to read the license agreements before using 
or distributing the demonstration software.  A copy of the appropriate 
license agreement(s) must be included with any copy of the 
demonstration software.  I gratefully acknowledge the generous help 
and support of Data General Corporation, Digital Equipment 
Corporation, and the Santa Cruz Organization in making the 
demonstration software and supporting license agreements available.

The simulator sources and documentation are contained in a compressed 
tar archive on the public FTP server ftp.digital.com:

	/pub/DEC/sim/sources/sim_2.2d.tar.Z

The simulators have been tested under Digital UNIX, VAX VMS, Alpha 
VMS, and Intel Linux.  A port to Windows 95/Windows NT is underway. 
 Porting to other little-endian UNIX systems is straightforward, but 
porting to big-endian systems is not: data representations are endian 
dependent.

The demonstration software and licenses are contained in multiple 
compressed tar archives on the public FTP server ftp.digital.com:

	/pub/DEC/sim/software/rdosswre.tar.Z	- RDOS
	/pub/DEC/sim/software/os8swre.tar.Z	- OS/8
	/pub/DEC/sim/software/uv5swre.tar.Z	- UNIX V5
	/pub/DEC/sim/software/uv6swre.tar.Z	- UNIX V6
	/pub/DEC/sim/software/uv7swre.tar.Z	- UNIX V7

(Very) cursory instructions for using the demonstration software are 
included in the simulator documentation.

The simulator project includes many contributions.  For a more 
detailed description of the simulator itself, and the many people who 
helped with it, please see the (forthcoming) December 96 issue of the 
Digital Technical Journal, which has an article on "Restoring Old 
Computers" by Max Burnet and Bob Supnik.

YOU can contribute to the computer history project!  The simulator is 
an open-ended framework, and contributions are welcome, such as:

	- further debuging of the existing simulators
	- additional peripherals for existing simulators
	- new software images for existing simulators
	- new simulators
	- terminal emulation routines for Windows 95/Windows NT
	- ports to other operating environments

Please send your contributions to bob.supnik at ljo.dec.com.

----- End of forwarded message from Bob Supnik -----


From m at mbsks.franken.de  Thu Dec  5 03:17:59 1996
From: m at mbsks.franken.de (Matthias Bruestle)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:17:59 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Unix onto my new PDP-11
Message-ID: <m0vVKxM-000NS0C@mbsks.franken.de>

Mahlzeit



I have here a PDP-11 which was used in a X-ray-"defractometer".
There was no Boot-disks or documentation.

Hardware:
	3HE-19"-case (with a label VAXstation 3200) with an on/off-switch
		and 6 buttons.
	5,25"-FDD
	3,5"-HDD (probably ST-506-type)
		Fujitsu   Model M2227D2
		Type B03B-4815-B104A#B
	On the side to the disk/floppy there are unused connectors:
		Fixed Disk 0 (2 con.)
		Fixed Disk 1 (2 con.)
		Removable Disk 1&2 (1 con.)
	It has 3 modules:
		quad-size from Mentec with 4 connectors (serial ports)
		quad-size from MDB with 4 unused connectors
		dual-size from Dilog (connected to disk and floppy)

Software:
	It is installed RT-11FB V5.04D.
	The output from resorc/a is:

-------------------------------------------------------------
RT-11FB (S) V05.04 D
Booted from DU0:RT11FB

USR   is set SWAP
EXIT  is set SWAP
KMON  is set NOIND
TT    is set QUIET
ERROR is set ERROR
SL    is set OFF
EDIT  is set EDIT
KMON nesting depth is 3

PDP 11/73A Processor
512KB of memory
Floating Point Microcode
Extended Instruction Set (EIS)
Memory Management Unit
Cache Memory
50 Cycle System Clock                  

Memory parity support
FPU support

Device    Status          CSR     Vector(s)
------    ------          ---     ---------
  SL      Installed      000000   000
  FW      Not installed  177170   264
  LD      131520         000000   000
  DY      Not installed  177170   264
  VM      132472         177572   250
  SP      Installed      000000   110
  XL      Installed      176500   300 304
  DL      Not installed  174400   160
  DU      Resident       172150   154
  LS      Installed      176510   310 314
  NL      Installed      000000   000

TT  (Resident) = LP 
DU  (Resident) 
    DU0 = SY 
MQ  (Resident) 
LD  (Loaded) 
    LD0 = DK 
SL   
VM  (Loaded) 
SP   
XL   
LS   
NL   
5 free slots

Job  Name  Console Level State    Low    High  Impure
---  ----  ------- ----- -----    ---    ----  ------
 0   RESORC   0      0   Run     000000 131510 134576

No multi-terminal support

Address   Module    Words
-------   ------    -----
160000    IOPAGE     4096.       
155636    DU          561.       
133220    RMON       4743.       
132464    VM          174.       
131512    LD          245.       
001000    ..BG..    22693.       

LD0 is  DU0:USER.DSK[50068.]  = DK 
LD4 is  DU0:USER.DSK[50068.]  
LD7 is  DU0:PW.DSK[3000.]  
-------------------------------------------------------------

I got somehow a M70>-Prompt (after a @-Prompt) and booted it with DU<Return>.

Can I make somehow a bootable floppy-backup?
Is it supported by V7 or another UNIX?
How big is the harddisk?
What device/size is the floppy? DK? 
Is it possible to read/write these floppies with a PC?
Is it possible to make UNIX-boot/install-floppies with an emulator
and install with the UNIX on this PDP-11?
What did I forget to ask?




Thanks

endergone Zwiebeltuete

-- 
insanity inside


From rarmstro at telesensory.com  Tue Dec 10 09:40:01 1996
From: rarmstro at telesensory.com (Robert Armstrong)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 15:40:01 -0800
Subject: PUPS Membership
Message-ID: <32aca351.telesens@telesensory.com>

Microsoft Mail v3.0 (MAPI 1.0 Transport) IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note
From: Armstrong, Robert
To:  'wkt at cs.adfa.oz.au'
Subject:  PUPS Membership
Date: 1996-12-09 15:36
Priority: 3
Message ID: C28C0656D851D0119D8400A02450680C
Conversation ID: PUPS Membership

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Warren,

  I have a Micro-PDP 11/73 running 2_11BSD now, and a running 11/23+   
system that I'd like to find a Unix for (currently it's running RT).  The   
11/23 lacks I&D space and therefore is unable to run 2_11BSD, and also   
it's severely handicapped because its largest disk a RL02.

  I also have a several other DEC non-Unix systems including a 11/730, a   
PDP-8/A, and too many VAXstation-2000s and 3100s to count.  All run   
perfectly except the -8, which is my current project.

  I have a some UNIBUS and QBUS spares, and even a few OMNIBUS parts, and   
I'm always willing to trade with other collectors.

  I'm afraid I know very little about Unix, but I do have some experience   
with DEC hardware and would be happy to try and help out in this area.

  Please do not reply to this account - my home email address is

 bob at poco-adagio.santa-clara.ca.us

Thanks,
Bob Armstrong  



From wkt at csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au  Tue Dec  3 11:27:36 1996
From: wkt at csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:27:36 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Simulator 2.2d release with demonstration software (fwd)
Message-ID: <9612030127.AA10609@dolphin>

[You must read this! Warren]
----- Forwarded message from Bob Supnik -----

From: Bob Supnik <bob.supnik at ljo.dec.com>
Subject: Simulator 2.2d release with demonstration software
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:56:40 -0500

This notice is being posted today in relevant Usenet conferences. 
Thanks for your help in reaching a major milestone!

Computer History Simulators V2.2d: Release Notes

V2.2d is a major release of the simulators for the Computer History 
project.  It includes simulators for:

	- Data General Nova
	- Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-8
	- Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-11
	- Digital Equipment Corporation 18b PDP's
	  (PDP-4, PDP-7, PDP-9, PDP-15)
	- IBM 1401

These simulators are freeware.  They are intended for personal or 
educational use and are provided on an as-is basis.  Support is not 
available, and commercial use is prohibited.  See the documentation 
for debug status for each simulator.

This release also includes demonstration software for the PDP-8, 
PDP-11, and Nova:

	- RDOS V7.5 for the Nova
	- OS/8 for the PDP-8
	- UNIX V5, V6, and V7 for the PDP-11
	
The demonstration software is provided for personal, non-commercial 
use, under license from its current owners (Data General for RDOS, 
Digital Equipment Corporation for OS/8, and the Santa Cruz Operation 
for UNIX).  Please be sure to read the license agreements before using 
or distributing the demonstration software.  A copy of the appropriate 
license agreement(s) must be included with any copy of the 
demonstration software.  I gratefully acknowledge the generous help 
and support of Data General Corporation, Digital Equipment 
Corporation, and the Santa Cruz Organization in making the 
demonstration software and supporting license agreements available.

The simulator sources and documentation are contained in a compressed 
tar archive on the public FTP server ftp.digital.com:

	/pub/DEC/sim/sources/sim_2.2d.tar.Z

The simulators have been tested under Digital UNIX, VAX VMS, Alpha 
VMS, and Intel Linux.  A port to Windows 95/Windows NT is underway. 
 Porting to other little-endian UNIX systems is straightforward, but 
porting to big-endian systems is not: data representations are endian 
dependent.

The demonstration software and licenses are contained in multiple 
compressed tar archives on the public FTP server ftp.digital.com:

	/pub/DEC/sim/software/rdosswre.tar.Z	- RDOS
	/pub/DEC/sim/software/os8swre.tar.Z	- OS/8
	/pub/DEC/sim/software/uv5swre.tar.Z	- UNIX V5
	/pub/DEC/sim/software/uv6swre.tar.Z	- UNIX V6
	/pub/DEC/sim/software/uv7swre.tar.Z	- UNIX V7

(Very) cursory instructions for using the demonstration software are 
included in the simulator documentation.

The simulator project includes many contributions.  For a more 
detailed description of the simulator itself, and the many people who 
helped with it, please see the (forthcoming) December 96 issue of the 
Digital Technical Journal, which has an article on "Restoring Old 
Computers" by Max Burnet and Bob Supnik.

YOU can contribute to the computer history project!  The simulator is 
an open-ended framework, and contributions are welcome, such as:

	- further debuging of the existing simulators
	- additional peripherals for existing simulators
	- new software images for existing simulators
	- new simulators
	- terminal emulation routines for Windows 95/Windows NT
	- ports to other operating environments

Please send your contributions to bob.supnik at ljo.dec.com.

----- End of forwarded message from Bob Supnik -----


From m at mbsks.franken.de  Thu Dec  5 03:17:59 1996
From: m at mbsks.franken.de (Matthias Bruestle)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:17:59 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Unix onto my new PDP-11
Message-ID: <m0vVKxM-000NS0C@mbsks.franken.de>

Mahlzeit



I have here a PDP-11 which was used in a X-ray-"defractometer".
There was no Boot-disks or documentation.

Hardware:
	3HE-19"-case (with a label VAXstation 3200) with an on/off-switch
		and 6 buttons.
	5,25"-FDD
	3,5"-HDD (probably ST-506-type)
		Fujitsu   Model M2227D2
		Type B03B-4815-B104A#B
	On the side to the disk/floppy there are unused connectors:
		Fixed Disk 0 (2 con.)
		Fixed Disk 1 (2 con.)
		Removable Disk 1&2 (1 con.)
	It has 3 modules:
		quad-size from Mentec with 4 connectors (serial ports)
		quad-size from MDB with 4 unused connectors
		dual-size from Dilog (connected to disk and floppy)

Software:
	It is installed RT-11FB V5.04D.
	The output from resorc/a is:

-------------------------------------------------------------
RT-11FB (S) V05.04 D
Booted from DU0:RT11FB

USR   is set SWAP
EXIT  is set SWAP
KMON  is set NOIND
TT    is set QUIET
ERROR is set ERROR
SL    is set OFF
EDIT  is set EDIT
KMON nesting depth is 3

PDP 11/73A Processor
512KB of memory
Floating Point Microcode
Extended Instruction Set (EIS)
Memory Management Unit
Cache Memory
50 Cycle System Clock                  

Memory parity support
FPU support

Device    Status          CSR     Vector(s)
------    ------          ---     ---------
  SL      Installed      000000   000
  FW      Not installed  177170   264
  LD      131520         000000   000
  DY      Not installed  177170   264
  VM      132472         177572   250
  SP      Installed      000000   110
  XL      Installed      176500   300 304
  DL      Not installed  174400   160
  DU      Resident       172150   154
  LS      Installed      176510   310 314
  NL      Installed      000000   000

TT  (Resident) = LP 
DU  (Resident) 
    DU0 = SY 
MQ  (Resident) 
LD  (Loaded) 
    LD0 = DK 
SL   
VM  (Loaded) 
SP   
XL   
LS   
NL   
5 free slots

Job  Name  Console Level State    Low    High  Impure
---  ----  ------- ----- -----    ---    ----  ------
 0   RESORC   0      0   Run     000000 131510 134576

No multi-terminal support

Address   Module    Words
-------   ------    -----
160000    IOPAGE     4096.       
155636    DU          561.       
133220    RMON       4743.       
132464    VM          174.       
131512    LD          245.       
001000    ..BG..    22693.       

LD0 is  DU0:USER.DSK[50068.]  = DK 
LD4 is  DU0:USER.DSK[50068.]  
LD7 is  DU0:PW.DSK[3000.]  
-------------------------------------------------------------

I got somehow a M70>-Prompt (after a @-Prompt) and booted it with DU<Return>.

Can I make somehow a bootable floppy-backup?
Is it supported by V7 or another UNIX?
How big is the harddisk?
What device/size is the floppy? DK? 
Is it possible to read/write these floppies with a PC?
Is it possible to make UNIX-boot/install-floppies with an emulator
and install with the UNIX on this PDP-11?
What did I forget to ask?




Thanks

endergone Zwiebeltuete

-- 
insanity inside


From rarmstro at telesensory.com  Tue Dec 10 09:40:01 1996
From: rarmstro at telesensory.com (Robert Armstrong)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 15:40:01 -0800
Subject: PUPS Membership
Message-ID: <32aca351.telesens@telesensory.com>

Microsoft Mail v3.0 (MAPI 1.0 Transport) IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note
From: Armstrong, Robert
To:  'wkt at cs.adfa.oz.au'
Subject:  PUPS Membership
Date: 1996-12-09 15:36
Priority: 3
Message ID: C28C0656D851D0119D8400A02450680C
Conversation ID: PUPS Membership

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Warren,

  I have a Micro-PDP 11/73 running 2_11BSD now, and a running 11/23+   
system that I'd like to find a Unix for (currently it's running RT).  The   
11/23 lacks I&D space and therefore is unable to run 2_11BSD, and also   
it's severely handicapped because its largest disk a RL02.

  I also have a several other DEC non-Unix systems including a 11/730, a   
PDP-8/A, and too many VAXstation-2000s and 3100s to count.  All run   
perfectly except the -8, which is my current project.

  I have a some UNIBUS and QBUS spares, and even a few OMNIBUS parts, and   
I'm always willing to trade with other collectors.

  I'm afraid I know very little about Unix, but I do have some experience   
with DEC hardware and would be happy to try and help out in this area.

  Please do not reply to this account - my home email address is

 bob at poco-adagio.santa-clara.ca.us

Thanks,
Bob Armstrong  



