From neozeed at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 01:14:48 2009
From: neozeed at gmail.com (Jason Stevens)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:14:48 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] Additions to the wiki
Message-ID: <46b366130907310814g5cc7d4d2md0b1594990f05417@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know if this would be the 'place' to ask, but would something
like this be suitable to the TUHS wiki?

http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.2_BSD_on_SIMH
http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.3_BSD_Quasijarus_on_SIMH
http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.3_BSD_RENO_on_SIMH
http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.3_BSD_on_SIMH
http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_Ultrix_4.0_on_SIMH

I've been slowly putting together some documentation in some wiki like
format on how to install various UNIXs into SIMH...  Since I wrote
them, they could just be wholesale imported...

Anyways I don't know if they meet any standards, etc etc...

Naturally I'll add 32v, 3BSD, 4BSD & 4.1BSD....

Thoughts?
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From newsham at lava.net  Tue Aug  4 05:17:08 2009
From: newsham at lava.net (Tim Newsham)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:17:08 -1000 (HST)
Subject: [TUHS] Additions to the wiki
In-Reply-To: <46b366130907310814g5cc7d4d2md0b1594990f05417@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46b366130907310814g5cc7d4d2md0b1594990f05417@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.64.0908030914240.20861@malasada.lava.net>

> I don't know if this would be the 'place' to ask, but would something
> like this be suitable to the TUHS wiki?
>
> http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.2_BSD_on_SIMH
> http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.3_BSD_Quasijarus_on_SIMH
> http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.3_BSD_RENO_on_SIMH
> http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.3_BSD_on_SIMH
> http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_Ultrix_4.0_on_SIMH

I think having this kind of stuff all together in one place
would be a win.  Hellwig Geisse also has a great doc on
setting up 7th ed:

http://homepages.fh-giessen.de/~hg53/pdp11-unix/

and I've run across a few other quick setup guides before
(on some japanese site IIRC) for various editions of unix.
Also slightly off topic, but related, a great guide to
installing vms:

http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html

Tim Newsham
http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/
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From newsham at lava.net  Tue Aug  4 05:25:00 2009
From: newsham at lava.net (Tim Newsham)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:25:00 -1000 (HST)
Subject: [TUHS] 8th ed manual sets
In-Reply-To: <5d375e920908010430t7e5786d1te49f3da8b7a686fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5A9@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
	<5d375e920907311401n59a5f63s9fd0eb09c4e158a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<5d375e920908010430t7e5786d1te49f3da8b7a686fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.64.0908030923310.20861@malasada.lava.net>

This might be of interest to people on this list (originally
posted to the 9fans list):

On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Uriel wrote:
> Thanks to Fish's contribution I have made the Unix 8th Edition manuals
> available at:
>
> http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/
>
> Tons of fascinating stuff there, including the jerq docs in section 9
> ( http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/9/ ) and what I think is the oldest
> documentation of the /proc file system
> (http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/4/proc ).
>
> Fish also contributed some pages from section 1 of the Unix Writer's
> Workbench: http://man.cat-v.org/unix_WWB/1/
>
> Thanks again to Fish for this wonderful contributions, and of course
> to the original authors of all this amazing material.
>
> Peace
>
> uriel
>
> P.S.: I'm still working out a couple of kinks in the web interface
> that make =(1) and Mail(1) inaccessible, but almost everything else
> should work fine, if you notice any problems please let me know.
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Uriel<uriel99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Slightly off topic (of this thread), but I'm looking for troff sources
>> of 8th, 9th, 10th and Plan 9 1st Editions to complete the man page
>> collections at http://man.cat-v.org
>>
>> If anyone knows where I can find copies of any of those, I would be
>> most grateful.
>>
>> uriel
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Benjamin
>> Huntsman<BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu> wrote:
>>> Sorry for the off-topic post, but I'm striking out on google, and I'm virtually certain that someone here will know...
>>>
>>> Does anyone happen to have the ISBN's for the 7th Edition manual set?
>>> Volume I is 0-03-061742-1, but I can't seem to find the others...
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> -Ben
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Tim Newsham
http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/
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From j_hoppe at t-online.de  Fri Aug  7 19:29:21 2009
From: j_hoppe at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=F6rg_Hoppe?=)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:29:21 +0200
Subject: [TUHS] New patch for 2.11BSD on PDP-11: network DEUNA does not
 respond to ethernet broadcasts
Message-ID: <4A7BF3F1.9060104@t-online.de>


I found and patched an error in the network driver for UNIBUS ethernet 
controllers
DEUNA/DELUA in 2.11BSD for PDP-11.

Error reproduction:
--------------------------
Build 2.11 BSD with ethernet/TCP/IP support over DEUNA/DELUA controller.
Configure the network.
Boot up 2.11 BSD, switch to multiuser mode.
Wait for 15 Minutes, until all ARP caches in the system are aged out.
Try to ping the PDP-11 from a network node, which is NOT listed anywhere 
in the
PDP-11's network configuration files. Ping will fail.
Important: since arp requests are also arp responses, do not ping the 
test node from your
PDP-11. The test node may not be contacted by the PDP-11!
Before testing, verify on the test node that the PDP-11 is unkown. The 
command "arp -a" must not display the PDP-11 yet.
You can clean the test node's arp cache by executing "arp -d *".

This can also be reproduced in SimH,
for example with the installation downloadable at
/www.ak6dn.com/PDP-11/2.11BSD/


Error explanation:
--------------------
The DEUNA/DELUA does not answer ARP requests, so other network nodes
can not get the PDP-11's ethernet MACID and can not send anything to it.
The DEUNA/DELUA does not answer ARP because it does not receive ethernet 
broadcast packets
(those addressed to MACID FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF).
And it is not receiving broadcasts, because the DELUA driver in 
/sys/pdpif/if_de.c
did not set up the DELUA's packet filter to receive FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF.

Error patch
---------------
In /sys/pdpif/if_de.c , the DEUNA/DELUA must be programmed to receive 
ethernet broadcast pakets.
The good way would be to explicitly add MACID FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF to the 
filter.
The fast and dirty way was to program the DELUA to receive ALL multicasts,
 by setting one more bit in the mode register:
In /sys/pdpif/if_de.c, change line
        ds->ds_pcbb.pcbb2 = MOD_TPAD|MOD_HDX;
into
        ds->ds_pcbb.pcbb2 = MOD_TPAD|MOD_HDX|MOD_ENAL;


Status
-----------------------------
This is a major bug, as it prevents the PDP-11 under 2.11BSD to run as a 
server.
It's hard to believe that it is still there.
In the typical quick "boot up and ping someone" test, it is almost 
invisible.

The bug is not present in the DELQA driver "if_qe.c".

I did posted already to alt.sys.pdp11 newsgroup.
The error has been acknowledeged by one other user.

In the BSD patch archive, this bug seems not to be addressed.



regards

Joerg Hoppe



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From BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu  Sat Aug  8 01:10:02 2009
From: BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu (Benjamin Huntsman)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:10:02 -0700
Subject: [TUHS]  4.1cBSD Anyone?
Message-ID: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>

Hi all!
   Just curious, has anyone here managed to get 4.1cBSD (or any 4.1 for that matter) running under SIMH or any other hardware or software?
   How does one prepare a SIMH-format distribution tape from a collection of files?  I haven't found a whole lot of information on the subject, and I imagine it'd be fairly difficult to make a root dump without a pre-existing system...

Many thanks to all in advance!
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From neozeed at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 01:31:26 2009
From: neozeed at gmail.com (Jason Stevens)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:31:26 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] 4.1cBSD Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
References: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
Message-ID: <46b366130908070831l46709155q7c1cb51dc148747d@mail.gmail.com>

There is a 4.0 floating around, that Nao got running... You can find
his notes here:

http://zazie.tom-yam.or.jp/starunix/

As for making tape images, it's easy if you have access to a working
perl interpeter..(I use SFU/SUA under Windows...)

I have a few examples here:

http://gunkies.org/wiki/Mkdisttap.pl


If you have access to file dumps of the tapes, it would *PROBABLY* be
trivial to get them into something simh understands and get something
booting...  If the asm for the tape load doesn't work, I've had great
luck manually running the bootra program, and pointing it to a copy of
the rootdump..

Where is your source for 4.1c?  Perhaps it's similar enough to 4.0 or
4.2 that it could be setup with either......

Jason

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Benjamin
Huntsman<BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu> wrote:
> Hi all!
>   Just curious, has anyone here managed to get 4.1cBSD (or any 4.1 for that matter) running under SIMH or any other hardware or software?
>   How does one prepare a SIMH-format distribution tape from a collection of files?  I haven't found a whole lot of information on the subject, and I imagine it'd be fairly difficult to make a root dump without a pre-existing system...
>
> Many thanks to all in advance!
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From BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu  Sat Aug  8 04:39:31 2009
From: BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu (Benjamin Huntsman)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:39:31 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] 4.1cBSD Anyone?
References: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
	<46b366130908070831l46709155q7c1cb51dc148747d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DC@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>

>http://zazie.tom-yam.or.jp/starunix/

Yep.  I found that one, and it actually works.  It was a breeze to set up.

I'm using mktape.c to make tape images, but it doesn't compile correctly on my copy of Windows, so I'm using my Mac to make images, then transfer them back.  But, that's beside the point.
The hard part is finding the standalone utilities like mkfs, restor, etc, and creating a root dump without a pre-existing system.

>Where is your source for 4.1c?  Perhaps it's similar enough to 4.0 or
>4.2 that it could be setup with either......

I got the 4.1c archives from an acquaintance with the CSRG CD-ROMS.  Unfortunately, they're just loose files in a tar archive.  I'll probably try manually compiling the 4.1 stand-alone bits under 4.0, and see if I can create a dump by extracting the tar file onto an empty partition and dumping that...

But, can someone tell me, what program gives that '=' prompt, and how do you get utilities like mkfs, restor, etc onto the tape so that you can load them?  Do you just dump them as separate records to the tape using dd?

Sorry for the newbie-rific questions.  Gotta learn somehow...

Thanks in advance!
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From aek at bitsavers.org  Sat Aug  8 04:56:53 2009
From: aek at bitsavers.org (Al Kossow)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:56:53 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] 4.1cBSD Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DC@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
References: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>	<46b366130908070831l46709155q7c1cb51dc148747d@mail.gmail.com>
	<621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DC@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
Message-ID: <4A7C78F5.5070906@bitsavers.org>

Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
> how do you get utilities like mkfs, restor, etc onto the tape so that you can load them?

the first file on the tape is a bootstrap that will load the stand-alone utilities
the stand-alone utilites are files blocked 512 bytes/block after that. the files themselves
are in the sa directory in the distribution.

I'll try to find my actual tape images of the distribs after lunch. This should be about the
same layout as in 2.9.




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From aek at bitsavers.org  Sat Aug  8 07:38:23 2009
From: aek at bitsavers.org (Al Kossow)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:38:23 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] 4.1cBSD Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <4A7C78F5.5070906@bitsavers.org>
References: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>	<46b366130908070831l46709155q7c1cb51dc148747d@mail.gmail.com>	<621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DC@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
	<4A7C78F5.5070906@bitsavers.org>
Message-ID: <4A7C9ECF.1030901@bitsavers.org>

Al Kossow wrote:
> Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
>> how do you get utilities like mkfs, restor, etc onto the tape so that 
>> you can load them?
> 
> the first file on the tape is a bootstrap that will load the stand-alone 
> utilities
> the stand-alone utilites are files blocked 512 bytes/block after that. 
> the files themselves
> are in the sa directory in the distribution.
> 
> I'll try to find my actual tape images of the distribs after lunch. This 
> should be about the
> same layout as in 2.9.
> 

memory was quite rusty..

1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024
1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024
1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024
1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024
1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024  1024
1024  1024  1024  1024  512
Tape Mark file 1, 85 blocks

10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240
10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240
10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240
10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240
10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240
10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240
10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 10240
10240 10240 10240 10240 10240 1024

copy of the tape image up now under
http://bitsavers.org/bits/BSD/

now, I have to find my copy of the installing 4.1BSD paper


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From aek at bitsavers.org  Sat Aug  8 07:47:35 2009
From: aek at bitsavers.org (Al Kossow)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:47:35 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] 4.1cBSD Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <4A7C9ECF.1030901@bitsavers.org>
References: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>	<46b366130908070831l46709155q7c1cb51dc148747d@mail.gmail.com>	<621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DC@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>	<4A7C78F5.5070906@bitsavers.org>
	<4A7C9ECF.1030901@bitsavers.org>
Message-ID: <4A7CA0F7.9070109@bitsavers.org>

Al Kossow wrote:

> copy of the tape image up now under
> http://bitsavers.org/bits/BSD/
> 

I just added a second image that appears to have all of the records of the
first file blocked at 512 bytes.

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From aek at bitsavers.org  Sat Aug  8 12:22:38 2009
From: aek at bitsavers.org (Al Kossow)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:22:38 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] 4.1cBSD Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <4A7CA0F7.9070109@bitsavers.org>
References: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>	<46b366130908070831l46709155q7c1cb51dc148747d@mail.gmail.com>	<621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DC@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>	<4A7C78F5.5070906@bitsavers.org>	<4A7C9ECF.1030901@bitsavers.org>
	<4A7CA0F7.9070109@bitsavers.org>
Message-ID: <4A7CE16E.4030301@bitsavers.org>

Al Kossow wrote:
> Al Kossow wrote:
> 
>> copy of the tape image up now under
>> http://bitsavers.org/bits/BSD/
>>
> 
> I just added a second image that appears to have all of the records of the
> first file blocked at 512 bytes.
> 

I would suggest anyone trying to get this running have the CSRG CD #1 handy.
You will need to read setup.t in the doc/vmunix docs since it requires a keyed in
bootstrap. Most likely, you need to put boot.file (see below) starting at
location 0, and start it at 0.

Note in the docs that you will need a MASSBUS disk and tape configured.

--


Key in at location 50000 and execute the following boot program:
You may enter in lower-case, the LSI-11 will echo in upper-case.
The machine's printouts are shown in boldface,
explanatory comments are within ( ).
Terminate each line you type by carriage return or line-feed.
.RT
.DS
\fB>>>\|\fRHALT
\fB>>>\|\fRUNJAM
\fB>>>\|\fRINIT
\fB>>>\|\fRD 50000 20009FDE
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  D0512001
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  3204A101
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  C114C08F
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  A1D40424
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  008FD00C
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  C1800000
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  8F320800
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  10A1FE00
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  00C139D0
\fB>>>\|\fRD+  00000004
\fB>>>\|\fRE 50000/NE:A
\&...				(machine prints out values, check typing)
\fB>>>\|\fRSTART 50000
.DE
.IP
The tape should move and the CPU should halt at location 5002A.
If it doesn't, you probably have entered the program
incorrectly.
Start over and check your typing.


Start the CPU with


\fB>>>\|\fRSTART 0
.DE
.IP 5.

The console should type
=

--

The contents of the first file on the tape appears to be boot.file
In a quick inspection, it seems to match the contents of the first
file on the tape.

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From neozeed at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 13:07:47 2009
From: neozeed at gmail.com (Jason Stevens)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:07:47 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] 4.1cBSD Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <4A7CE16E.4030301@bitsavers.org>
References: <621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DA@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
	<46b366130908070831l46709155q7c1cb51dc148747d@mail.gmail.com>
	<621112A569DAE948AD25CCDCF1C075331AB5DC@dolly.ntdom.cupdx>
	<4A7C78F5.5070906@bitsavers.org> <4A7C9ECF.1030901@bitsavers.org>
	<4A7CA0F7.9070109@bitsavers.org> <4A7CE16E.4030301@bitsavers.org>
Message-ID: <46b366130908072007r2af10bf6me0fe10865ffcc8b4@mail.gmail.com>

I never seem to be able to get these things to work...

Here is my ini file:

set tto 7b
set rq dis
set lpt dis
set rl dis
set hk dis
set rq dis
set rqb dis
set rqc dis
set rqd dis
set ry dis
set ts dis
set tq dis
set dz lines=8
set rp0 rp06
at rp0 rp06.disk
set tu0 te16
;at tu0 4.0bsd.tape
;at tu0 BSD4.1_bootable.tap
at tu0 bsdVAX_bootable_3-21-82.tap
D 50000 20009FDE
D 50004 D0512001
D 50008 3204A101
D 5000C C114C08F
D 50010 A1D40424
D 50014 008FD00C
D 50018 C1800000
D 5001C 8F320800
D 50020 10A1FE00
D 50024 00C139D0
D 50028 00000004
run 50000
run 0

Any of these 'tapes' gives me:
VAX780 simulator V3.8-1

HALT instruction, PC: 0005002A (HALT)

HALT instruction, PC: 00000001 (HALT)
sim> q
Goodbye

Is anyone else having better luck???



On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Al Kossow<aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
> Al Kossow wrote:
>>
>> Al Kossow wrote:
>>
>>> copy of the tape image up now under
>>> http://bitsavers.org/bits/BSD/
>>>
>>
>> I just added a second image that appears to have all of the records of the
>> first file blocked at 512 bytes.
>>
>
> I would suggest anyone trying to get this running have the CSRG CD #1 handy.
> You will need to read setup.t in the doc/vmunix docs since it requires a
> keyed in
> bootstrap. Most likely, you need to put boot.file (see below) starting at
> location 0, and start it at 0.
>
> Note in the docs that you will need a MASSBUS disk and tape configured.
>
> --
>
>
> Key in at location 50000 and execute the following boot program:
> You may enter in lower-case, the LSI-11 will echo in upper-case.
> The machine's printouts are shown in boldface,
> explanatory comments are within ( ).
> Terminate each line you type by carriage return or line-feed.
> .RT
> .DS
> \fB>>>\|\fRHALT
> \fB>>>\|\fRUNJAM
> \fB>>>\|\fRINIT
> \fB>>>\|\fRD 50000 20009FDE
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  D0512001
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  3204A101
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  C114C08F
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  A1D40424
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  008FD00C
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  C1800000
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  8F320800
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  10A1FE00
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  00C139D0
> \fB>>>\|\fRD+  00000004
> \fB>>>\|\fRE 50000/NE:A
> \&...                           (machine prints out values, check typing)
> \fB>>>\|\fRSTART 50000
> .DE
> .IP
> The tape should move and the CPU should halt at location 5002A.
> If it doesn't, you probably have entered the program
> incorrectly.
> Start over and check your typing.
>
>
> Start the CPU with
>
>
> \fB>>>\|\fRSTART 0
> .DE
> .IP 5.
>
> The console should type
> =
>
> --
>
> The contents of the first file on the tape appears to be boot.file
> In a quick inspection, it seems to match the contents of the first
> file on the tape.
>
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From arnold at skeeve.com  Wed Aug 12 04:11:36 2009
From: arnold at skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:11:36 +0300
Subject: [TUHS] 8th ed manual sets
Message-ID: <200908111811.n7BIBaXX006324@skeeve.com>

Hi All. A while back Tim wrote:

> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:25:00 -1000 (HST)
> From: Tim Newsham <newsham at lava.net>
> To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> Cc: Uriel <uriel99 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [TUHS] 8th ed manual sets
>
> This might be of interest to people on this list (originally
> posted to the 9fans list):
>
> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Uriel wrote:
> > Thanks to Fish's contribution I have made the Unix 8th Edition manuals
> > available at:
> >
> > http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/
> >
> > [ ... ]

I asked about a tarball on 9fans, and got this reply to the list, which
I'm forwarding here:

| From: 0intro at gmail.com (David du Colombier)
| Subject: Re: [9fans] off topic: manual sets
| Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:25:28 GMT
| 
| > Is a tarball of the 8th ed manual troff files available?
| >
| > The Unix Historical Society (see www.tuhs.org) would like to have this
| > too, I don't doubt.
| 
| I temporary put it online [1]. Feel free to mirror it.
| 
| I obtained this stuff from an generous anonymous
| donor few years ago.
| 
| I thought it would be better to share it.
| 
| [1] http://www.9grid.fr/man.tar.bz2
| 
| -- 
| David du Colombier

I sent Warren a copy of the tarball.  If I can steal the hour, I
may try to create a PDF, just for the fun of trying.  Feel free to
beat me to it. :-)

Thanks,

Arnold
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From j_hoppe at t-online.de  Sun Aug 16 16:31:15 2009
From: j_hoppe at t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=F6rg_Hoppe?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:31:15 +0200
Subject: [TUHS] New patch for 2.11BSD on PDP-11: network DEUNA does not
 respond to ethernet broadcasts ... is SimH bug
In-Reply-To: <4A7BF3F1.9060104@t-online.de>
References: <4A7BF3F1.9060104@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <4A87A7B3.40101@t-online.de>


False alert!
A few people reproduced this bug under SimH, but it is not present on
real PDP-11/44 or '84. So it must be a bug in SimH's DEUNA.

Jörg Hoppe schrieb:
>
> I found and patched an error in the network driver for UNIBUS ethernet 
> controllers
> DEUNA/DELUA in 2.11BSD for PDP-11.
>
> Error reproduction:
> --------------------------
> Build 2.11 BSD with ethernet/TCP/IP support over DEUNA/DELUA controller.
> Configure the network.
> Boot up 2.11 BSD, switch to multiuser mode.
> Wait for 15 Minutes, until all ARP caches in the system are aged out.
> Try to ping the PDP-11 from a network node, which is NOT listed 
> anywhere in the
> PDP-11's network configuration files. Ping will fail.
> Important: since arp requests are also arp responses, do not ping the 
> test node from your
> PDP-11. The test node may not be contacted by the PDP-11!
> Before testing, verify on the test node that the PDP-11 is unkown. The 
> command "arp -a" must not display the PDP-11 yet.
> You can clean the test node's arp cache by executing "arp -d *".
>
> This can also be reproduced in SimH,
> for example with the installation downloadable at
> /www.ak6dn.com/PDP-11/2.11BSD/
>
>
> Error explanation:
> --------------------
> The DEUNA/DELUA does not answer ARP requests, so other network nodes
> can not get the PDP-11's ethernet MACID and can not send anything to it.
> The DEUNA/DELUA does not answer ARP because it does not receive 
> ethernet broadcast packets
> (those addressed to MACID FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF).
> And it is not receiving broadcasts, because the DELUA driver in 
> /sys/pdpif/if_de.c
> did not set up the DELUA's packet filter to receive FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF.
>
> Error patch
> ---------------
> In /sys/pdpif/if_de.c , the DEUNA/DELUA must be programmed to receive 
> ethernet broadcast pakets.
> The good way would be to explicitly add MACID FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF to the 
> filter.
> The fast and dirty way was to program the DELUA to receive ALL 
> multicasts,
> by setting one more bit in the mode register:
> In /sys/pdpif/if_de.c, change line
>        ds->ds_pcbb.pcbb2 = MOD_TPAD|MOD_HDX;
> into
>        ds->ds_pcbb.pcbb2 = MOD_TPAD|MOD_HDX|MOD_ENAL;
>
>
> Status
> -----------------------------
> This is a major bug, as it prevents the PDP-11 under 2.11BSD to run as 
> a server.
> It's hard to believe that it is still there.
> In the typical quick "boot up and ping someone" test, it is almost 
> invisible.
>
> The bug is not present in the DELQA driver "if_qe.c".
>
> I did posted already to alt.sys.pdp11 newsgroup.
> The error has been acknowledeged by one other user.
>
> In the BSD patch archive, this bug seems not to be addressed.
>
>
>
> regards
>
> Joerg Hoppe
>
>
>
>
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From reed at reedmedia.net  Mon Aug 31 23:52:20 2009
From: reed at reedmedia.net (Jeremy C. Reed)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:52:20 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [TUHS] default license,
	old CSRG RCS history? and BSD share/mk/*mk files?
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.00.0908310839510.375@t1.m.reedmedia.net>

For 4.4BSD files, if no copyright and license is listed for specific 
files, does the standard UCB license apply? Is there any file or statement 
that says the license covers all files which don't have a specific license 
in 4.4BSD-Lite ?

Any RCS commit history for old CSRG code?

I am looking for the authors/history/copyrights for BSD 
share/mk/files.

I see that 4.4BSD-Alpha has:
r--r--r--  3/7    792 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.doc.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   3761 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   1574 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.man.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   4140 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   1244 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   1387 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/sys.mk
but missing the bsd.README

I couldn't find these in the other old 4 and 3BSDs (via the tuhs 
archive).

The share/mk/bsd.README from NetBSD import in 1993 has:

#	@(#)bsd.README	5.1 (Berkeley) 5/11/90

And sys.mk has:

#	@(#)sys.mk	5.11 (Berkeley) 3/13/91

And bsd.doc.mk:

#	@(#)bsd.doc.mk	5.3 (Berkeley) 1/2/91

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