From langj at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 18 10:41:36 2002
From: langj at bellsouth.net (joseph lang)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:41:36 -0400
Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile
Message-ID: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net>

I am building a PDP 11 from junked parts and have it 
mostly working. I'm now installing BSD 2.11 and have run into 
a problem i could use some help with.

When compiling a new kernel (to include network) I get an error

ld: too big for type 431
*** exit 2

I assume this error is due to one of the overlays being too 
large. (this is pointed out in the install docs)

How do I figure out which overlay (or base) is the problem?
The random module shuffle in the documents only has 10 million 
combinations and at 30 minutes to compile, well I'm not going
to live that long. 

Is there a more scientific way to arrange the overlays?
Am I missing something obvious?

joe lang
langj at bellsouth.net


From chd_1 at nktelco.net  Tue Jun 18 12:40:55 2002
From: chd_1 at nktelco.net (Chuck Dickman)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:40:55 -0400
Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile
References: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3D0E9DB7.988203A@nktelco.net>

joseph lang wrote:
> When compiling a new kernel (to include network) I get an error
> 
> ld: too big for type 431
> *** exit 2
> 
> I assume this error is due to one of the overlays being too
> large. (this is pointed out in the install docs)

During the compile 'size' outputs a list of the sizes of the
overlays. Look at the output. For mine....

# size unix	! the OS kernel                                           
text    data    bss     dec     hex
55296   6492    20738   82526   1425e   total text: 106752
	overlays: 7744,7360,7872,7296,3072,7680,4864,5568
# size netnix	! the network code
text    data    bss     dec     hex
60864   2362    38448   101674  18d2a
                       
 
> How do I figure out which overlay (or base) is the problem?

The base must be less than 7 8k pages or 57344(decimal) bytes.
Each overlay must be less than 8k bytes or 8192(decimal).
The network code is not overlayed, so you have 8 pages or the
full 64k. 

> Is there a more scientific way to arrange the overlays?

To make it work, just get the sizes below the limits. The 
optimal arrangement would be placing the code in such that
the overlay changes were minimized. So... move your system
disk drivers into base and change the configuration to
remove any hardware you don't actually have. 

> Am I missing something obvious?

No, it just requires some tweeking.....

> joe lang

Good luck,

-chuck


From sms at 2BSD.COM  Tue Jun 18 13:11:15 2002
From: sms at 2BSD.COM (Steven M. Schultz)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:11:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile
Message-ID: <200206180311.g5I3BF925792@moe.2bsd.com>

Hi!

> From: "Chuck Dickman" <chd_1 at nktelco.net>

	I see you beat me to the answer ;)

> During the compile 'size' outputs a list of the sizes of the
> overlays. Look at the output. For mine....
> 
> > How do I figure out which overlay (or base) is the problem?
> 
> The base must be less than 7 8k pages or 57344(decimal) bytes.
> Each overlay must be less than 8k bytes or 8192(decimal).
> The network code is not overlayed, so you have 8 pages or the
> full 64k. 

	And you use "size" on the .o files to see how much each object file
	contributes to an overlay.

	With the exception of a few .o files which *must* be in the base
	segment (and these are identified in the Makefile) anything can go
	anywhere it will fit.  The overlay switching is extremely efficient
	so don't worry about the 'affinity' of modules too much.

	Oh, it should be mentioned that it is not legal to have an empty 
	(0 length) overlay except at the end - i.e. you can't have overlay 3
	be 0 bytes if overlay 4 or higher has nonzero size.

> To make it work, just get the sizes below the limits. The 
> optimal arrangement would be placing the code in such that
> the overlay changes were minimized. So... move your system
> disk drivers into base and change the configuration to
> remove any hardware you don't actually have. 
	
	With the exception of perhaps the tty driver for the specific serial
	devices present on the system it's not worth trying to pack things
	"optimally".   The overhead of overlays is inhererent in the function
	prologue and epilogue - the only extra overhead of actually switching
	overlays is stuffing ~two words or so into the MMU registers.

	DO NOT remove anything from the actual OV lines in the makefile - just
	make sure you define/configure devices as not being present in the
	config file (by saying you have 0 of them).  Then the .o files do
	not take up any space and can be segregated into unused overlays
	at the end (OV9 or 10 or so).

	Good Luck!

	Steven Schultz
	sms at 2bsd.com


From jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de  Tue Jun 18 17:55:12 2002
From: jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de (Jochen Kunz)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 09:55:12 +0200
Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile
In-Reply-To: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net>; from langj@bellsouth.net on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 02:41:36 CEST
References: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <20020618095512.I163999@MissSophie.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de>

On 2002.06.18 02:41 joseph lang wrote:

> How do I figure out which overlay (or base) is the problem?
Add this to your Makefile and you can "make" a list of the individual
overlay sizes:

sizes: sizes.awk
	@echo -n "BASE	" ; size ${BASE} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV1	" ; size ${OV1} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV2	" ; size ${OV2} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV3	" ; size ${OV3} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV4	" ; size ${OV4} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV5	" ; size ${OV5} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV6	" ; size ${OV6} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV7	" ; size ${OV7} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV8	" ; size ${OV8} | awk -f sizes.awk
	@echo -n "OV9	" ; size ${OV9} | awk -f sizes.awk

sizeb: FRC
	size ${BASE}

size1: FRC
	size ${OV1}

size2: FRC
	size ${OV2}

size3: FRC
	size ${OV3}

size4: FRC
	size ${OV4}

size5: FRC
	size ${OV5}

size6: FRC
	size ${OV6}

size7: FRC
	size ${OV7}

size8: FRC
	size ${OV8}

size9: FRC
	size ${OV9}


sizes.awk: FRC
	echo 'BEGIN {sum=0' > sizes.awk
	echo 'sum2=0' >> sizes.awk
	echo 'sum3=0}' >> sizes.awk
	echo '/^[0-9]/ {sum=sum+$$1' >> sizes.awk
	echo 'sum2=sum2+$$1+$$2' >> sizes.awk
	echo 'sum3=sum3+$$4}' >> sizes.awk
	echo 'END {print "text: "sum "	text+data: " sum2
"	dec: " sum3}' >> sizes.awk

-- 



tschüß,
         Jochen

Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/


From langj at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun 19 10:42:00 2002
From: langj at bellsouth.net (joseph lang)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:42:00 -0400
Subject: [pups] bsd2.11 kernel compile
References: <3D0E81C0.9046BF5D@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3D0FD358.5AE5568F@bellsouth.net>

Thank you for your quick and accurate answers. 

My "junk-box" 11 (jb11.notms.net) is happy and 
on my local network.

For those of you who may be interested the system is built
entirely from scrap..

The CPU is from a Decserver 550. It's a j11 (18mhz.) with 
1.5 meg of ram. and pdp11/53 proms. I bought the RQDX3 on 
E-bay. The disk drive was from My ever decreasing pile of
MFM drives (rd32)
The chassis is home built. (stop laughing it looks pretty 
good ;-) The power supply is an open frame switcher from a 
local electronics scrap dealer. I wire-wrapped the power-on
reset and line time clock generator circuits. The boards 
are in a H-9270 (Q-18) backplane with additional lines
wrapped to make it Q-22.

It sounds like a real kludge! Anybody got a spare BA23? ;-) 

I loaded the root filesystem with vtserver. Thanks Warren!
VTC and vtserver were used to load /usr. I had to strip 
a lot of stuff from /usr to get it to fit on a single 
drive. (games doc ingres and man pages)

# df
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ra0a        9842     2952     6890    30%    /
/dev/ra0c       26084    14966    11118    57%    /usr


As soon as I build a copy of Chuck Dickman's ATA board
I'll load up everything. 

joe lang


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From: randy.merkel at veritas.com (Randy Merkel)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:45:17 -0700
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From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org  Tue Jun 25 17:23:55 2002
From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 17:23:55 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [pups] Real ZOO web site, welcome! ID<sxsvCplqqlh1wxkv1ruj>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206251303050.4622-100000@erai.esi.com.au> from Dave
 Horsfall at "Jun 25, 2002 01:03:54 pm"
Message-ID: <200206250723.g5P7NuW40061@minnie.tuhs.org>

In article by Dave Horsfall:
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Randy Merkel wrote:
> > Golly, I think we have a spammer ;)
> Either he/she/it took the trouble to subscribe (few do), or the list
> is wide open; if the latter, expect more crap.

Open no more, and I have to approve subscriptions too :-)

	Warren


From szigi at ik.bme.hu  Tue Jun  4 21:53:50 2002
From: szigi at ik.bme.hu (Szigeti Szabolcs)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:53:50 +0200
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
Message-ID: <006a01c20bbe$7e5c86c0$26f34298@magosix>

Hi folks!

I've just joined your mailing list, and while looking at the archives, i saw
this discussion on porting V6 to Intel.
Well, back in '92, in a university scinence students' competition, I ported
v6 to intel286 in protected mode. (I got second place, the winner was a 3D
animation prog, which is more spectacular, than a # prompt :-)

I used Borland C to compile, with some extra mungling the assembly code ( i
can't remember why).

The hard part was to understand the protected mode, and to write the low
level stuff. Other things, like filesystem, etc. compiled with hardly any
modification. (Had to change =+ to =+, introduce long insted of int[2],
etc.). It has floppy, ide, kbd, parallel, serial and vga drivers.

It got to full multiuser operation, but there are bugs and stupid codings
certainly. The C compiler, nroff, and some other parts were not ported.
(Yes, I used Borland C to compile the programs, and a tool to convert it to
a.out :-)

I don't know if i can now legally give out parts of the original code, if
anyone wants to experiment with it (some parts are pretty ugly, because i
intedned to rewrite it, but never did, and the parts of the comments are in
Hungarian), drop me an email (though i'm now doing my MBA thesis, so might
not answer immediatey). If there is interest, I can summarize my
experiences.

I've not looked it since several years, so i might not remember every
detail, but there are some interesting point, and it was great fun to do.

Regards,

    Szabolcs Szigeti








From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org  Wed Jun  5 09:34:50 2002
From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:34:50 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
In-Reply-To: <006a01c20bbe$7e5c86c0$26f34298@magosix> from Szigeti Szabolcs at
 "Jun 4, 2002 01:53:50 pm"
Message-ID: <200206042334.g54NYoN86308@minnie.tuhs.org>

In article by Szigeti Szabolcs:
> I don't know if i can now legally give out parts of the original code, if
> anyone wants to experiment with it (some parts are pretty ugly, because i
> intedned to rewrite it, but never did, and the parts of the comments are in
> Hungarian), drop me an email (though i'm now doing my MBA thesis, so might
> not answer immediatey). If there is interest, I can summarize my
> experiences.

Hi, yes it's now legal to distribute your code, as Caldera's license
allows for distribution of changes, see
http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf

I'm the guy who runs the Unix Archive, so I'd be very happy to take a copy
of your work and add it to the archive.

Cheers,
	Warren


From johnzulu at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  5 21:54:12 2002
From: johnzulu at yahoo.com (John Chung)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 04:54:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
In-Reply-To: <200206050222.g552MHm88208@minnie.tuhs.org>
Message-ID: <20020605115412.51082.qmail@web12803.mail.yahoo.com>

 Where can I obtain the program nowadays? It is going
to be fun playing it using my x86 machine. :)

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From iking at microsoft.com  Thu Jun  6 04:49:15 2002
From: iking at microsoft.com (Ian King)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:49:15 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
Message-ID: <8D25F244B8274141B5D313CA4823F39C04147F06@red-msg-06.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>

I think this would be a great addition to the archive!  I'm glad I
didn't throw out that old 286 motherboard yet.  :-)  -- Ian 

-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Toomey [mailto:wkt at minnie.tuhs.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:35 PM
To: Szigeti Szabolcs
Cc: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386


In article by Szigeti Szabolcs:
> I don't know if i can now legally give out parts of the original code,

> if anyone wants to experiment with it (some parts are pretty ugly, 
> because i intedned to rewrite it, but never did, and the parts of the 
> comments are in Hungarian), drop me an email (though i'm now doing my 
> MBA thesis, so might not answer immediatey). If there is interest, I 
> can summarize my experiences.

Hi, yes it's now legal to distribute your code, as Caldera's license
allows for distribution of changes, see
http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf

I'm the guy who runs the Unix Archive, so I'd be very happy to take a
copy of your work and add it to the archive.

Cheers,
	Warren
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From szigi at ik.bme.hu  Thu Jun  6 17:07:35 2002
From: szigi at ik.bme.hu (Szigeti Szabolcs)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:07:35 +0200
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
References: <8D25F244B8274141B5D313CA4823F39C04147F06@red-msg-06.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c20d28$d5f1c600$26f34298@magosix>


> I think this would be a great addition to the archive!  I'm glad I
> didn't throw out that old 286 motherboard yet.  :-)  -- Ian

Hi,

I've sent the stuff to Warren, so it should get to the archives. Mind you,
it needs some hacking to get it running, but it isn't impossible.


Cheers,

    Szabolcs




From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org  Thu Jun  6 20:20:16 2002
From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:20:16 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
In-Reply-To: <002c01c20d28$d5f1c600$26f34298@magosix> from Szigeti Szabolcs at
 "Jun 6, 2002 09:07:35 am"
Message-ID: <200206061020.g56AKH309734@minnie.tuhs.org>

In article by Szigeti Szabolcs:
> I've sent the stuff to Warren, so it should get to the archives. Mind you,
> it needs some hacking to get it running, but it isn't impossible.
> Cheers,
>     Szabolcs

I'll upload it soon. Meanwhile, instead of a DOS C compiler, people
should be able Bruce Evans' bcc or C86 as the compiler, which would
eventually allow the system to compile itself.

	[ Um, maybe once V7 gets ported, as I'd bet these compilers
	  will require the stdio library. ]

Just a thought.

	Warren


From mike at ducky.net  Fri Jun  7 03:02:57 2002
From: mike at ducky.net (Mike Haertel)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
Message-ID: <200206061702.g56H2v3b010851@ducky.net>

>I'll upload it soon. Meanwhile, instead of a DOS C compiler, people
>should be able Bruce Evans' bcc or C86 as the compiler, which would
>eventually allow the system to compile itself.

The source code to the Watcom compilers has also finally
been released.


From peter.jeremy at alcatel.com.au  Wed Jun 12 08:31:16 2002
From: peter.jeremy at alcatel.com.au (Peter Jeremy)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:31:16 +1000
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
In-Reply-To: <200206061702.g56H2v3b010851@ducky.net>; from mike@ducky.net on
 Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:02:57AM -0700
References: <200206061702.g56H2v3b010851@ducky.net>
Message-ID: <20020612083116.J680@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>

On 2002-Jun-06 10:02:57 -0700, Mike Haertel <mike at ducky.net> wrote:
>The source code to the Watcom compilers has also finally
>been released.

Where?  http://www.openwatcom.com/ is still only talking about the
binary patch kit.  The "current status" indicates (mid-May) "Sybase
has decided on an Open Source License and is currently awaiting OSI
approval".

Peter


From mike at ducky.net  Wed Jun 12 08:52:26 2002
From: mike at ducky.net (Mike Haertel)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:52:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
In-Reply-To: <20020612083116.J680@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>
Message-ID: <200206112252.g5BMqQsL030737@ducky.net>

>On 2002-Jun-06 10:02:57 -0700, Mike Haertel <mike at ducky.net> wrote:
>>The source code to the Watcom compilers has also finally
>>been released.
>
>Where?  http://www.openwatcom.com/ is still only talking about the
>binary patch kit.

Argh.  I already replied to this privately before noticing it had
been sent to the list.  I sent Peter a longer reply, but the quick
version is that http://www.openwatcom.org/download_lic.html will
get you to the source code.

Although their compiler will generate 8086 code, it seems reasonably
unlikely that the compiler itself can be made to fit on an 8086.


From drwho8 at worldnet.att.net  Thu Jun 20 11:20:54 2002
From: drwho8 at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:20:54 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] Simh and networking, and any of the available 2.11BSD collections
Message-ID: <000901c217f8$bcfb28a0$a8bc580c@who>

Hello from Gregg C Levine
I've just joined this list, so bear with me. I am developing applications
that will be using the protcols covered in DECnet to access a running PDP-11
system. Actually it is running, but its a SimH program posing as a
PDP-11/23. I have downloaded the boot images, especially the 2.11BSD system
that is available, and booted it under the SimH simulator. Any suggestions
as to how I take this one step further? This is running on both Windows, and
Linux. But the DECnet programs were built on Slackware Linux.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
"How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?"



From drwho8 at worldnet.att.net  Tue Jun 25 22:22:48 2002
From: drwho8 at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:22:48 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH site
Message-ID: <000d01c21c43$0583b760$6260580c@who>

Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
Forwarded from a posting on news:alt.sys.pdp-11 that I made. Rather then
repost the entire message in perpetuity I decided to forward the whole
business to this list. As I am still deciding the best way to make use of
the whole file tree, without an actual machine living here, I decided to
download everything to this one, and then wait.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at att.net
"How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?"
"Gregg C Levine" <drwho8 at att.net> wrote in message
news:<20020625121449.XOEM20423.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net at who>...
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> Has anyone actually found this to happen? The TUH ftp site, has on it, a
> number of actual distributions for UNIX for the PDP-11. One of them was
> assembled by Tim Shoppa from a discarded machine. They were
> subsequently uploaded to that site. However on of the packs is missing.
> It is this one, "xxdp_with_1123.rl02:    XXDP+ on RL02 pack, bootable."
> That is from the README file associated with the entire directory.
> Everything else is there, that one is not. What did happen to it, I
wonder.
> Gregg C Levine drwho8 at att.net
>
>



From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org  Wed Jun 26 08:47:08 2002
From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:47:08 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH
 site
In-Reply-To: <000d01c21c43$0583b760$6260580c@who> from Gregg C Levine at "Jun
 25, 2002 08:22:48 am"
Message-ID: <200206252247.g5PMl8t48206@minnie.tuhs.org>

In article by Gregg C Levine:
> > It is this one, "xxdp_with_1123.rl02:    XXDP+ on RL02 pack, bootable."
> > That is from the README file associated with the entire directory.
> > Everything else is there, that one is not. What did happen to it, I
> wonder.
> > Gregg C Levine drwho8 at att.net

I believe XXDP is still owned by Mentec, and hasn't been released under
a suitable license for public distribution. I'd be happy to be proven
wrong, though!

	Warren


From drwho8 at worldnet.att.net  Wed Jun 26 09:21:32 2002
From: drwho8 at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:21:32 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH site
References: <200206252247.g5PMl8t48206@minnie.tuhs.org>
Message-ID: <000a01c21c9f$0b7e4e80$2c60580c@who>

Hello from Gregg C Levine normallt with Jedi Knight Computers
Very good then. When you, or someone else, have the time, can the README
file be updated? Other wise, I have found the entire site, both WWW, and
FTP, to be a gold mine of usual data, and information. Especially data.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
"How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Toomey" <wkt at minnie.tuhs.org>
To: "Gregg C Levine" <drwho8 at worldnet.att.net>
Cc: "tuhs@ minnie.tuhs.org" <tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the
TUH site


> In article by Gregg C Levine:
> > > It is this one, "xxdp_with_1123.rl02:    XXDP+ on RL02 pack,
bootable."
> > > That is from the README file associated with the entire directory.
> > > Everything else is there, that one is not. What did happen to it, I
> > wonder.
> > > Gregg C Levine drwho8 at att.net
>
> I believe XXDP is still owned by Mentec, and hasn't been released under
> a suitable license for public distribution. I'd be happy to be proven
> wrong, though!
>
> Warren
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From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org  Wed Jun 26 11:09:02 2002
From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:09:02 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [TUHS] FW: Missing pack from the UnixV6 distros based at the TUH
 site
In-Reply-To: <000a01c21c9f$0b7e4e80$2c60580c@who> from Gregg C Levine at "Jun
 25, 2002 07:21:32 pm"
Message-ID: <200206260109.g5Q193R49544@minnie.tuhs.org>

In article by Gregg C Levine:
[xxdp is copyright]
> Very good then. When you, or someone else, have the time, can the README
> file be updated? Other wise, I have found the entire site, both WWW, and
> FTP, to be a gold mine of usual data, and information. Especially data.

Done!
	Warren


From drwho8 at worldnet.att.net  Sun Jun 30 02:27:47 2002
From: drwho8 at worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine)
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:27:47 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] The Tim Shoppa distribution of V6
Message-ID: <000501c21f89$ee71a100$28ba580c@who>

Hello again from Gregg C Levine
On the FTP site, is a a V6 distribution contributed by Tim Shoppa. It is
created for the PDP-11/23, and there is a good readme.txt file that explains
the different images, and how they got there. However, has anyone actually
gotten the distribution to boot, using a version of Simh? A text file of
commands to be fed to the Simh program would be a great help.
I have mine, built using the MingW compiler, and this is version 2.9-10.
Also, if anyone has gotten it to boot on real hardware, that would a be a
great plus.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
"How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?"



