From ssigala at globalnet.it  Tue Nov  4 05:09:15 1997
From: ssigala at globalnet.it (S. Sigala)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:09:15 +0100 (MET)
Subject: SCO Free OpenServer and UnixWare
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971009181629.1760B-100000@athena.milk.it>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971103200356.690A-100000@athena.milk.it>

Hi, sorry if this is off topic, but... have anyone ordered/tested
the Free versions of SCO OpenServer and/or UnixWare?  Are them interesting
enough? (I'm currently playing with both Linux and FreeBSD, and
since we are talking about the UNIX PDP source license from a lot
of time, i wish to know if these Free UNIX versions contain some
interesting/useful UNIX source code...)

Regards,
	Sandro


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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au  Mon Nov 24 12:48:36 1997
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:48:36 +1100 (EST)
Subject: PDP-11 Unix Source Licenses - Status
Message-ID: <199711240248.NAA11909@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>

Hi all,
	We've had a number of new subscribers to the PDP-11 UNIX mailing
list, so I'd like to welcome them to the list, and say that questions about
these old systems (and the hardware) are always welcome here, so fire away!

I mailed Dion Johnson at SCO again re the license issue, with no reply.
I tried some other SCO contacts, and got this back from Peter Laytham:

	Unfortunately this is always a busy time for SCO folk - September is
	our end of financial year, which means October and November are given
	over to planning and regional kick-off events including training
	(which Dion gets involved in).

	If you can bear with us, we are both submitting your case to the
	powers that be within SCO. However SCO has a fair bit of other work
	to cope with keeping the evil empire at bay and rolling out some
	significant new technologies (SVr5, Tarantella and two clustering
	products - reliantHA and Non-stop for UnixWare) which is slowing down
	non critical decisions such as this one.

	Cheers
		Peter

So it looks like we're in for some more waiting.

Sorry for the lack of change in status,

	Warren

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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au  Mon Nov 24 13:20:46 1997
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:20:46 +1100 (EST)
Subject: PDP-11/04 serial pinout (fwd)
Message-ID: <199711240320.OAA12125@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>

----- Forwarded message from Nickolai Zeldovich -----

[Nickolai, a message posted to the vmsnet.pdp-11 and alt.sys.pdp11 newsgroups
 should also get some answers for you!	-- Warren]


	From: Nickolai Zeldovich <kolya at zepa.net>

Hi,

I was wondering if you could answer a simple (or maybe not, I'm not all
that sure) question about PDP machines for me. I managed to get a
PDP-11/04, I believe, but it had no console with it. All it has on the
back is a RS232-looking plug with some unknown to me pinout. Would you be
so kind as to give me some information or pointers how to hook up any sort
of an input/output device to it?

-Thank You.
Nickolai Zeldovich.

--
+-------------------------+----------------------+--------------------------+
| Nickolai Zeldovich      | ZEPANET              | UCF Math Department      |
| http://kolya.zepa.net/  | http://www.zepa.net/ | http://www.math.ucf.edu/ |
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----- End of forwarded message from Nickolai Zeldovich -----

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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au  Tue Nov 25 08:37:00 1997
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:37:00 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Last Email from SCO - new license wording
Message-ID: <199711242237.JAA23316@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>

All,
	I've just received some email from Dion Johnson at SCO re the PDP-11
UNIX source licenses. Apparently he's been away from work (holidays?). He
says:

	I have a new cut of the proposed license
	from our NJ Legal folks.  I compare with past versions
	and see what it has.  I know the 32V was added to the
	list of licensed versions (good).  Not sure if the
	other problems were fixed.  I will get back
	to you before the holiday weekend coming.

As always, I'll let you know things as I receive them.

	Warren

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From ssigala at globalnet.it  Tue Nov  4 05:09:15 1997
From: ssigala at globalnet.it (S. Sigala)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:09:15 +0100 (MET)
Subject: SCO Free OpenServer and UnixWare
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971009181629.1760B-100000@athena.milk.it>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971103200356.690A-100000@athena.milk.it>

Hi, sorry if this is off topic, but... have anyone ordered/tested
the Free versions of SCO OpenServer and/or UnixWare?  Are them interesting
enough? (I'm currently playing with both Linux and FreeBSD, and
since we are talking about the UNIX PDP source license from a lot
of time, i wish to know if these Free UNIX versions contain some
interesting/useful UNIX source code...)

Regards,
	Sandro


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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au  Mon Nov 24 12:48:36 1997
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:48:36 +1100 (EST)
Subject: PDP-11 Unix Source Licenses - Status
Message-ID: <199711240248.NAA11909@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>

Hi all,
	We've had a number of new subscribers to the PDP-11 UNIX mailing
list, so I'd like to welcome them to the list, and say that questions about
these old systems (and the hardware) are always welcome here, so fire away!

I mailed Dion Johnson at SCO again re the license issue, with no reply.
I tried some other SCO contacts, and got this back from Peter Laytham:

	Unfortunately this is always a busy time for SCO folk - September is
	our end of financial year, which means October and November are given
	over to planning and regional kick-off events including training
	(which Dion gets involved in).

	If you can bear with us, we are both submitting your case to the
	powers that be within SCO. However SCO has a fair bit of other work
	to cope with keeping the evil empire at bay and rolling out some
	significant new technologies (SVr5, Tarantella and two clustering
	products - reliantHA and Non-stop for UnixWare) which is slowing down
	non critical decisions such as this one.

	Cheers
		Peter

So it looks like we're in for some more waiting.

Sorry for the lack of change in status,

	Warren

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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au  Mon Nov 24 13:20:46 1997
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:20:46 +1100 (EST)
Subject: PDP-11/04 serial pinout (fwd)
Message-ID: <199711240320.OAA12125@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>

----- Forwarded message from Nickolai Zeldovich -----

[Nickolai, a message posted to the vmsnet.pdp-11 and alt.sys.pdp11 newsgroups
 should also get some answers for you!	-- Warren]


	From: Nickolai Zeldovich <kolya at zepa.net>

Hi,

I was wondering if you could answer a simple (or maybe not, I'm not all
that sure) question about PDP machines for me. I managed to get a
PDP-11/04, I believe, but it had no console with it. All it has on the
back is a RS232-looking plug with some unknown to me pinout. Would you be
so kind as to give me some information or pointers how to hook up any sort
of an input/output device to it?

-Thank You.
Nickolai Zeldovich.

--
+-------------------------+----------------------+--------------------------+
| Nickolai Zeldovich      | ZEPANET              | UCF Math Department      |
| http://kolya.zepa.net/  | http://www.zepa.net/ | http://www.math.ucf.edu/ |
| nickolai at kolya.zepa.net | nickolai at zepa.net    | nickolai at math.ucf.edu    |
+-------------------------+----------------------+--------------------------+

----- End of forwarded message from Nickolai Zeldovich -----

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From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au  Tue Nov 25 08:37:00 1997
From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:37:00 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Last Email from SCO - new license wording
Message-ID: <199711242237.JAA23316@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>

All,
	I've just received some email from Dion Johnson at SCO re the PDP-11
UNIX source licenses. Apparently he's been away from work (holidays?). He
says:

	I have a new cut of the proposed license
	from our NJ Legal folks.  I compare with past versions
	and see what it has.  I know the 32V was added to the
	list of licensed versions (good).  Not sure if the
	other problems were fixed.  I will get back
	to you before the holiday weekend coming.

As always, I'll let you know things as I receive them.

	Warren

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