From: "Digest" <ianatos2site dot com>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 184
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Date:- 13 October 2001

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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 02:51:05 +1000
From: "Mike O'Connor" <mikeocataustarnet dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Convenience Pack

"Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com> wrote:

> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:05:46 +1000 (EST)
> Subject: [os2genau] Convenience Pack
> 
> Hi All
> 
> Its been a long haul, but, after a long wait :-)
> I've just received my OS/2 Warp v4.51 Convenience Pack !
> Delivered by DHL Worldwide Air Express from Singapore.
> 
> Has anyone tried installing over the top of standard Warp v4 ?
> If so, any gottas I should watch out for ?
> 
> Cheers

Hi Ian,

I also did this and I would suggest that when you have
everything up to your satisfaction - DEFRAG it - I use Chris
Graham's Utils. You'll probably find that some of the e.g.
log files are up to 800-1000 separate extents! Do the defrag
before you do the backup/format/restore. You may find it's
not then necessary to do the backup [just to completely
defragment] - the 12MB font files etc are almost always 2
extents because of the 8MB directory bands I suppose.

Mike

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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 03:24:06 +1000
From: "Mike O'Connor" <mikeocataustarnet dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] [os2genau_digest] No. 183 - BobT's disk problem

"Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au> wrote:

> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:23:23 +1000
> Subject: Re: [os2genau] Convenience Pack
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> I did exactly that put MCP over Warp4 fixpack #15 with tcpip 4.1
> and all tcpip and mpts fixes for 4.1.
> 
> The first time it worked perfectly.
> The installation warns that Voice Type, PMfax, VideoIn and some
> others were not supported, but these can be re-installed later, if needed.
> 
> It created the usual "Previous desktop" folder but it only worked
> correctly the first time. If you do it a second time most of your
> previous folders are all empty.
> 
> Otherwise it did work.
> 
> I then tried a eCS upgrade.  This I would NOT advise.
> You end up with "Desktop" and "Desktop1" both running in tandem.
> Do anything to one and the system is unusable.
> 
> I have a hard drive with partition table problems so I will be unable to
> reply to this list for a while.  Currently using a spare hard disk
> and Win98.
> 
Hi Robert,

Included with the Graham Utilities is a program
Part-Fix.exe, which can recover your partition tables (MBR +
EPBR entries in extended partition) and which works
backwards from the end of the disk. If you don't have them
already, seems that now would be the second-best time to get
them. Of course at installation they create a copy of all
the partition info on floppy - you can't bypass that step &
it can be repeated at any time you re-partition your drives.
Setup the screwed-up disk as slave or secondary master to
the W98 disk & you can modify manually with e.g. Norton
Diskedit (DOS). Once you get the hang of the chaining of the
blocks it's pretty simple with a direct-disk hex editor.
Just do a search on 0x55AA as the last word of a sector to
find likely boot records. If you remember the approximate
sizes of the partitions you can narrow down the likely
starting cylinders for each, etc., using simple ratios.

Mike

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:12:34 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Convenience Pack

Hello

I thought that 'defragging' discs and files was not needed for HPFS - at least  not as 
often as FAT etc,   but please educate me... 

what does defragging do that an occasional cleaning up of the ini files and check 
disk doesnt do and when  and how would I be aware that my system needed to be 
defragged  ( sounds lurid!!!) and is  this something that  is only available via the 
Graham Utilities?


On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 02:51:05 +1000, Digest wrote:

>From: "Mike O'Connor" <mikeocataustarnet dot com dot au>
>
>"Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com> wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:05:46 +1000 (EST)
>> Subject: [os2genau] Convenience Pack
>> 
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Its been a long haul, but, after a long wait :-)
>> I've just received my OS/2 Warp v4.51 Convenience Pack !
>> Delivered by DHL Worldwide Air Express from Singapore.
>> 
>> Has anyone tried installing over the top of standard Warp v4 ?
>> If so, any gottas I should watch out for ?
>> 
>> Cheers
>
>Hi Ian,
>
>I also did this and I would suggest that when you have
>everything up to your satisfaction - DEFRAG it - I use Chris
>Graham's Utils. You'll probably find that some of the e.g.
>log files are up to 800-1000 separate extents! Do the defrag
>before you do the backup/format/restore. You may find it's
>not then necessary to do the backup [just to completely
>defragment] - the 12MB font files etc are almost always 2
>extents because of the 8MB directory bands I suppose.
>
>Mike
>

Graham Norton
President
OS2 Users Group SA

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:18:24 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Archive Key files

I am aware now of the useful ability to archive  additional files every time that we do 
a desktop backup using  the addition of

set keyfile=*.*

in the os2 archive directory

can I begin a discussion /thread on which files other users of OS2 (client and 
server) commonly add to this directory and perhaps if not obvious, an explanation 
of why?

thanks


Graham Norton
President
OS2 Users Group SA

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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:17:47 
From: Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Convenience Pack

** Reply to note from "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au> Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:12:34 +1100 (EDT)


> I thought that 'defragging' discs and files was not needed for HPFS - at least  not as  
> often as FAT etc,   but please educate me...  

defragging *definteley* needs to be done at *regular* basis, even for HPFS

I do mine regularly, every 3 years.

I forgot the stats from last time, it was something redicoulsly low, in %
terms

YMMV

>    
> what does defragging do that an occasional cleaning up of the ini files and check  
> disk doesnt do and when  and how would I be aware that my system needed to be  
> defragged  ( sounds lurid!!!) and is  this something that  is only available via the  
> Graham Utilities?

defragging is to do with disk /cluster space allocation, GU or Gammatech
will tell you if need defragging

ini files simply gets rid of crud in the two ini files





Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 

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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 21:25:28 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Archive Key files

Hi Graham,
Don't look much further than:
c:\os2\archives\os2.key from eComStation:

KEYFILE:OS2.INI
KEYFILE:OS2SYS.INI
KEYFILE:C:\CONFIG.SYS
KEYFILE:C:\STARTUP.CMD
KEYFILE:C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
KEYFILE:C:\OS2INIT.CMD
KEYFILE:C:\os2\EPW.INI
KEYFILE:C:\ibmcom\protocol.ini
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\bin\MPTCONFG.INI
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\bin\MPTSTART.CMD
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\bin\setup.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\bin\setup.tcp
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\DHCPCD.MPT
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\dhcpcd.cfg
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\dhcpcd.tcp
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\hosts
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\resolv2
KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\TCPOS2.INI
KEYFILE:C:\netscape\EPFINS46.PKG
KEYFILE:C:\netscape\NS46.PKG
KEYFILE:C:\netscape\NS46COMM.PKG
KEYFILE:C:\ibmlan\IBMLAN.INI
KEYFILE:C:\ibmlan\accounts\net.acc
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\admin_pw.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\binlscpc.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\binlscps.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\dadmgui.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\ddnsapc.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\dhcpscpc.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpcfg2.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpcfg2d.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpcfg2r.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpstart.cmd
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpstart.tcp
KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\etc\dhcpcd.cfg
KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\DIVE.INI
KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MIDITYPE.INI
KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPM.INI
KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPM2.INI
KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPMCD.INI
KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPMCONN.INI
KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPMMMIO.INI
KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\SPI.INI

Somebody else can explain :)

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
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From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 22:16:28 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] ssh on OS/2

Does anyone know how to setup ssh on OS/2?
I got the download from hobbes, but the documentation is very hard to
understand & has huge holes.

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)

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From: <djnatpeninsula.hotkey dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] I'm back
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 22:40:56 -1000

After 7 attempts to install eCS I've finaly given up and returned to 
#12. My mouse now flies across the screen, files load in next to 
nothing( at least an order of magnitude faster) and scrolling past the 
end of the page once again is dangeriously difficult.
Lotus 123 now works and doesn't send the system into convulsions when 
you try to save or exit.
Until someone can successfully explain to me why an upgrade degrades the
system and makes applications which work in fp12 become useless, then 
eCS will stay Shelfware.

I gave it two weeks of pain, and the only things that worked correctly 
were Internet Adventurer, Netscape and Majong.

Now it's back to work and see you at the next SIG
Regards
Dennis.

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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:48:41 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <vh_gdnatinternode.on dot net>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] NS 4.61 Browser Access Problem

Peter Godbold wrote:

> Anyone else getting an "Access Denied" problem with the Australian IT
> Ping Newsletters?
>
> It seems that in the last three weeks the PING Newsletters have been
> accessing a web page:
>          http://hjc1.careerone dot com dot au/js/setLocation.js

No success from my home OS/2 box and no success either from my 100% M$ works box.

Cheers,
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
<Open Windows and let the bugs in>

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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 23:06:00 +1100
From: Jim Boyle <jimboyleatoptushome dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] eCS Install    (was ...      I'm back

With regard to an unsuccessful  update - it may be caused by something
fundamentally wrong in the base system, that is creating problems during the
upgrade.  Have you tried a clean install to a new partition ?

I took the simplistic approach of doing a "clean" eCS installation  -  it all
WAD  (Worked As Designed) - nary a problem, and the Smart Suite is all up and
running plus a few other applications like Describe plus many REXX programs, and
other utilities ex Hobbes etc etc that I've built up over the years.

There used be a good "SAVEFLDR" utility around that's handy for saving desktop
structures - I suggest a hunt on Hobbes to see if it's around.  On this occasion
I didn't bother - just drag/dropped stuff off the data disk to a CDROM where RSJ
saved a safety copy "as is",  and I just built a new eCS partition and away it
all went.   45 minutes or so to a running system, and one evening to have all my
applications back in order and current code running it all.    Nice !

I cannot accept liability for any errors or omissions in this message.
Jim  Boyle     jimboyleatoptushome dot com dot au

