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From: "Michael Block" <mblockatoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:24:51 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] CDRecord/2

Is there anyone successfully using this programme that can
help me with some problems? I can make a 1:1 audio Cd copy
so presumably the 'plumbing' is OK. I have a sony CD-RW 140

 My problems are:
I can't access any of the default CDDB servers - does this
function work? )I have a cable direct connection (no proxy
- sshhhh) 
when I grab audio tracks they appear to be grabbed - at
least at command line level, but they don't appear at WPS
level - ie not on the 'create audio Cd' folder. Furthermore
when I try to write, the grabbed file size is reported as 0
bytes. 

Ideas?
regards

Michael Block
---------------------------> Caca et declina medicus

http://members.optushome dot com dot au/mblock/perinatal.html
The www home of perinatal psychiatry

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From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:46:29 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] CDRecord/2

Michael,

I remember something about CDDB changing its web site or else it was
that they were charging for their service. (or some such).

I cannot lay my hands on the info at the moment, but if I find
it I will post the new sites url.

I have at the moment which works via Netscape and is still live:-
http://www.cddb dot com/

And I have "Freedb dot org - a free approach to cddbp" :-
http://WWW.FREEDB.ORG/index.php

Quote from the Website:-

Why freedb dot org ?

As Escient has changed the terms of licence for accessing CDDB, some
programmers complained that the new licence includes certain terms that
threatens them in a way they cannot accept: If you want to access CDDB,
you are not allowed to access any other CDDB-like database (this one, for
example) and - while accessing the database - the programmer has to
ensure, that a CDDB-logo is displayed (Funny sidenote: One programmer told
me, that his cd-player will be banned if he is refusing to display the
CDDB-logo. His software is a console-based program (it does not produce
any graphical output) for blind people...).
                             
Update (March 2001): Gracenote (which is the new name of CDDB) has now
banned all unlicensed applications from accessing their database. New
licenses for CDDB1 are not available anymore, as they obviously want to
force programmers to switch to CDDB2.

Always being able to choose is one of the advantages of the internet. If
Escient forbids the use of other sources now, you can easily think of things
coming next...

Furthermore, many people submitted the information without charging
anybody and they thought their help would remain free, because the initital
license was GPL (see: www.gnu dot org for more information on GPL). 

Everything submitted to this site will be GPL'ed! 
End Quote from Website...

Michael, what is the CDDB url from your CDRecord/2.?

Regards,
BobT.


On Sun, 27 May 2001 13:24:51 +1000 (EST), Michael Block wrote:

>Is there anyone successfully using this programme that can
>help me with some problems? I can make a 1:1 audio Cd copy
>so presumably the 'plumbing' is OK. I have a sony CD-RW 140

> My problems are:
>I can't access any of the default CDDB servers - does this
>function work? )I have a cable direct connection (no proxy
>- sshhhh) 
>when I grab audio tracks they appear to be grabbed - at
>least at command line level, but they don't appear at WPS
>level - ie not on the 'create audio Cd' folder. Furthermore
>when I try to write, the grabbed file size is reported as 0
>bytes. 

>Ideas?
>regards

>Michael Block

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:50:15 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] CDRecord/2

I am a big fan of CDRECORD/2 but I have to admit I only
use it to create Data, not Audio CDs. Which front-end (if any)
are you using with it ?  I use Audio-CD creator which as, I said
works *VERY* well for data CDs. There's also a program
CDR-Wiz that's supposed to be very good.

When you say you can't get to any of the CDDB servers, what
does that mean? Are we talking about Web-sites hosting tracks
for Audio CDs ? If so can you get to them using a normal
browser ? Perhaps Optus is blocking these specific sites in fear
of pirated tracks ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

Michael Block wrote:
> 
> Is there anyone successfully using this programme that can
> help me with some problems? I can make a 1:1 audio Cd copy
> so presumably the 'plumbing' is OK. I have a sony CD-RW 140
> 
>  My problems are:
> I can't access any of the default CDDB servers - does this
> function work? )I have a cable direct connection (no proxy
> - sshhhh)
> when I grab audio tracks they appear to be grabbed - at
> least at command line level, but they don't appear at WPS
> level - ie not on the 'create audio Cd' folder. Furthermore
> when I try to write, the grabbed file size is reported as 0
> bytes.
> 
> Ideas?
> regards
> 
> Michael Block
> ---------------------------> Caca et declina medicus
> 
> http://members.optushome dot com dot au/mblock/perinatal.html
> The www home of perinatal psychiatry
 
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From: "Michael Block" <mblockatoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:00:30 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] CDRecord/2

On Sun, 27 May 2001 13:46:29 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor 
(BobT) wrote:

>Michael,
>
>
>Michael, what is the CDDB url from your CDRecord/2.?

freedb.freedb dot org:888
de.freedb dot org:888
ca.freedb dot org:888
uk.freedb dot org:888

>
>Regards,
>BobT.


regards

Michael Block
---------------------------> Caca et declina medicus

http://members.optushome dot com dot au/mblock/perinatal.html
The www home of perinatal psychiatry

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From: "Michael Block" <mblockatoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:03:07 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] CDRecord/2

On Sun, 27 May 2001 13:50:15 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>I am a big fan of CDRECORD/2 but I have to admit I only
>use it to create Data, not Audio CDs. Which front-end (if any)
>are you using with it ?  I use Audio-CD creator which as, I said
>works *VERY* well for data CDs. There's also a program
>CDR-Wiz that's supposed to be very good.

I also am using Audio CD creator
>
>When you say you can't get to any of the CDDB servers, what
>does that mean? Are we talking about Web-sites hosting tracks
>for Audio CDs ?

yes. It is an internet based database of every CD and audio
track information!

 If so can you get to them using a normal
>browser ? 

It is a 90MB database!!!

Perhaps Optus is blocking these specific sites in fear
>of pirated tracks ??

I'm wondering....
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Michael Block wrote:
>> 
>> Is there anyone successfully using this programme that can
>> help me with some problems? I can make a 1:1 audio Cd copy
>> so presumably the 'plumbing' is OK. I have a sony CD-RW 140
>> 
>>  My problems are:
>> I can't access any of the default CDDB servers - does this
>> function work? )I have a cable direct connection (no proxy
>> - sshhhh)
>> when I grab audio tracks they appear to be grabbed - at
>> least at command line level, but they don't appear at WPS
>> level - ie not on the 'create audio Cd' folder. Furthermore
>> when I try to write, the grabbed file size is reported as 0
>> bytes.
>> 
>> Ideas?
>> regards
>> 
>> Michael Block
>> ---------------------------> Caca et declina medicus
>> 
>> http://members.optushome dot com dot au/mblock/perinatal.html
>> The www home of perinatal psychiatry

regards

Michael Block
---------------------------> Caca et declina medicus

http://members.optushome dot com dot au/mblock/perinatal.html
The www home of perinatal psychiatry

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From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:11:31 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap size

Hi Ed.
I still like the OS on a logical partition, for flexibility adding in drives etc.
C: is the first partition on the first drive, E: could be anywhere, so I would go for;

C: Data, D: Applications, E: OS.

Then if you were unfortunate enough to be compelled to you could add in another drive for a 
windows partition to dual boot to.

steve
On Sat, 26 May 2001 20:52:59 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hi Daryl, and others,
>
>  My take on this is C: OS    D: Applications  E: Data.
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:31:57 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap size

Yes, I have no problem with that. the key point is to keep the
OS separate from the apps and data.

Cheers/2
Ed.

Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed.
> I still like the OS on a logical partition, for flexibility adding in drives etc.
> C: is the first partition on the first drive, E: could be anywhere, so I would go for;
> 
> C: Data, D: Applications, E: OS.
> 
> Then if you were unfortunate enough to be compelled to you could add in another drive for a
> windows partition to dual boot to.
> 
> steve
> On Sat, 26 May 2001 20:52:59 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >Hi Daryl, and others,
> >
> >  My take on this is C: OS    D: Applications  E: Data.
> _______________
> Steve Edmonds
> Steve71atattglobal dot net
 
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