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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:33:21 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Printing

I am having recent problems with printing faxes from PMFax (LAN ) for OS2.  
Printing is to  a network HP2100TN (TCPIP) and usually (although not always!  - 
dont you just hate it when the problem is not entirely predicatable!!?)   it prints the 
first page and not the others.!

we then go into the Fax log and open it and print it again from the PM Fax window 
and it seems to work!

any suggestions?
Graham Norton FRACP
Neurologist

Smart Road Specialist Centre
Modbury SA 5092

61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
gnatsmart-road dot com dot au

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From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:45:26 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [os2genau] archiving

Hi,
I use zip to archive files with cron for os/2.
It tends to fail at a locked file, I once used arj but can't 
recall the locked file result.
Any suggestions, skipping the locked file would be preferable to 
failing an archive.

steve
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:02:58 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

Hi Graham,
I suspect a FixPak problem with the PC printing the fax.
Is it your server that prints?
Could you email me a syslevel of the printing PC.

The other thing to try is printing to the other HP2100TN you have, it
*could* be a printer problem, but unlikely.

Run for a week-or-so with the other printer & see if the fault still
occurs.

Look forward to the syslevel file.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> I am having recent problems with printing faxes from PMFax (LAN ) for OS2.
> Printing is to  a network HP2100TN (TCPIP) and usually (although not always!  -
> dont you just hate it when the problem is not entirely predicatable!!?)   it prints the
> first page and not the others.!
> 
> we then go into the Fax log and open it and print it again from the PM Fax window
> and it seems to work!
> 
> any suggestions?
> Graham Norton FRACP
> Neurologist
> 
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:40:00 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

Daryk

the PMfax LAN is on the server and this prints all received faxes to the Network HP 
2100TN  .

The server is  to the best of my knowledge and using the Indelible Blue Warp Serer  
WarpUP CD of Jan 2001, at current fixes.... including TCPIP 4.3 from SWC.

tried the other printer and it  does the same thing again regularly but not always but 
mostly!! If you get my drift!?




On Tue, 01 May 2001 10:02:58 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Graham,
>I suspect a FixPak problem with the PC printing the fax.
>Is it your server that prints?
>Could you email me a syslevel of the printing PC.
>
>The other thing to try is printing to the other HP2100TN you have, it
>*could* be a printer problem, but unlikely.
>
>Run for a week-or-so with the other printer & see if the fault still
>occurs.
>
>Look forward to the syslevel file.
>
>Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
>> 
>> I am having recent problems with printing faxes from PMFax (LAN ) for OS2.
>> Printing is to  a network HP2100TN (TCPIP) and usually (although not always!  -
>> dont you just hate it when the problem is not entirely predicatable!!?)   it prints the
>> first page and not the others.!
>> 
>> we then go into the Fax log and open it and print it again from the PM Fax window
>> and it seems to work!
>> 
>> any suggestions?
>> Graham Norton FRACP
>> Neurologist
>> 
>-- 
>Regards, 
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>          ICQ: 91914134
>          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
>          Mob: +61-425-251-300
>          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
>      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
>               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

Graham Norton FRACP
Neurologist

Smart Road Specialist Centre
Modbury SA 5092

61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
gnatsmart-road dot com dot au

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

Hi Graham,
OK, don't think it is a printer issue, <grin>.

No slur on Duane from Indelible Blue, (Smart Guy, met him at WarpTech
2000), but I don't know what is on the Jan 2001 WarpUP CD & even if I
did, I have no guarantee of what FixPaks were actually installed on your
server.

It could even be a hiccup with PMfax, but lets discount the lprportd
issue, 1st.
Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing?

The problem is likely to be a TCP/IP application FixPak issue.

I really need your syslevel output to help you further.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> Daryk
> 
> the PMfax LAN is on the server and this prints all received faxes to the Network HP
> 2100TN  .
> 
> The server is  to the best of my knowledge and using the Indelible Blue Warp Serer
> WarpUP CD of Jan 2001, at current fixes.... including TCPIP 4.3 from SWC.
> 
> tried the other printer and it  does the same thing again regularly but not always but
> mostly!! If you get my drift!?
> 
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

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From: datablitzatoptusnet dot com dot au
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:27:54 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Netscape dropping support for 4.61

In <3AEBEE81.E757C5B0athome.dialix dot com>, on 04/29/2001 
   at 08:35 PM, Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com> said:

"Curl" retrieves urls etc without using a browser.  It allows you to fool
the server  by telling it whatever agent (browser) you want. However, I
don't know if anyone has managed to create a version that is https enabled
for OS2. I think the site is www.curl.haxx.se

>G'day from the Coat-Hanger City,
>St George Bank is claiming Netscape are dropping support of 4.61 from 24
>April 2001.
>St George, in a knee-jerk reaction have coded their Internet Banking not
>to accept anything lower than 4.74.

>I'm wondering if the other Banks will follow. Currently, Adelaide & ANZ
>Bank still work with 4.61.
>Could people using other Banks check Internet Banking is still working &
>report on their bank's functional statua on these ListServs if they stop
>working in the future.

>No Bank in Australia currently supports Internet Banking on 6.00 Has
>anyone got Mozilla or the IBM Browser to work with Internet Banking in
>Australia?

>How do you make 4.61 "think" it is 4.74?
>Can you make the IBM Browser think it is 4.74?



-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
datablitzatoptusnet dot com dot au
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:13:51 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

On Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>
>Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing?

I am using the HP Jet Admin and I suspect that it would be better to use lprportd!  If 
so how do I set this up?

remind me how to do a syslevel print out!
Graham Norton FRACP
Neurologist

Smart Road Specialist Centre
Modbury SA 5092

61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
gnatsmart-road dot com dot au

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:05:53 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] archiving

If you have enough room you could perhaps use scopy to copy 
what you want to backup to nother area (scopy copies open files)
and then do your zip from there.

Ed. 

Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I use zip to archive files with cron for os/2.
> It tends to fail at a locked file, I once used arj but can't
> recall the locked file result.
> Any suggestions, skipping the locked file would be preferable to
> failing an archive.
> 
> steve
> _______________
> Steve Edmonds
> Steve71atattglobal dot net
 
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:10:26 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

Graham really !!

 Syslevel listing ......


 at command prompt

 Syslevel  filename.txt  (enter)

Ed.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> >
> >Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing?
> 
> I am using the HP Jet Admin and I suspect that it would be better to use lprportd!  If
> so how do I set this up?
> 
> remind me how to do a syslevel print out!
> Graham Norton FRACP
> Neurologist
> 
> Smart Road Specialist Centre
> Modbury SA 5092
> 
> 61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
> 61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
> gnatsmart-road dot com dot au
 
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:09:56 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

Hi Graham,

At an OS/2 command prompt:
syslevel >syslevel.txt

Then email me the file syslevel.txt

Please do this before we get you setup using lprportd.

I could do screen shots for setting-up lprportd, but it would be quicker
to talk you through it on the phone.

You can ring me anytime Wednesday & I'll talk you through lprportd
setup.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> >
> >Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing?
> 
> I am using the HP Jet Admin and I suspect that it would be better to use lprportd!  If
> so how do I set this up?
> 
> remind me how to do a syslevel print out!
> Graham Norton FRACP
> Neurologist
>
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:35:33 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] SCOPY program for OS/2

Forgot to say you can get scopy.exe to read open OS/2 files from

http://www.os2 dot com/download/util.html

(Note it's not the scopy/2 program which is an archiver) but
actually scopy.zip and it's description states it copies open
files. I used to use it back in OS/2 2.x days to copy OS2.INI.

Ed.

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:37:06 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

I think it's time for me to buy a new keybord, this ones
dropping chracters (and I don't type that quick) Daryl
gave you the correct format though

syslevel>filename.txt (enter)

Ed

P.S.  Colins Howto page at

http://www.haynes97.freeserve.co.uk

Has a good description regarding how to set up LPR.



Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> Graham really !!
> 
>  Syslevel listing ......
> 
>  at command prompt
> 
>  Syslevel  filename.txt  (enter)
>

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From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 01:10:31 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SCOPY program for OS/2

Thanks Ed,

steve

 Tue, 01 May 2001 21:35:33 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Forgot to say you can get scopy.exe to read open OS/2 files from
>
>http://www.os2 dot com/download/util.html

_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 23:33:56 +1000
From: David Halprin <davidlazatnet2000 dot com dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Computer Chip Information

Hi Guys
Even though this is not OS/2, you may enjoy the read anyways.
It's not science fiction; you can check out the source
David Halprin
-----------------------------------------------------------------

COMPUTER-INFO.WPD
Subject: Fwd: Very interesting stuff
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:23:22 +1000

Computers That Improve Themselves
---------------------------------

At first glance, Darwin's ideas on evolution don't seem to have much to
do
with computers. But if a line of computer code doesn't remind you at
least
vaguely of a chromosome -- both are essentially stored information --
you
might want to look into the new field of evolvable hardware, where chips

redesign themselves for optimum efficiency. This is evolution with a
silicon
flair.

Hot ideas come and go, but I know of no technology more likely to
reshape
our relationship with computers than this one.

A computer that evolves may redesign itself in such a way that even its
inventors don't know how it's functioning. They just know that it works
better than ever before, and future generations may work even better.

Something like this has already happened in the laboratory of Adrian
Thompson at the University of Sussex in England. There, at the Center
for
Computational Neuroscience and Robotics, Thompson has spent the past
four
years working with computer chips that mutate. Chips can manipulate
their
own logic gates within nanoseconds, try the new design, and choose the
configurations that work the best.

All of this takes place not in software but hardware. The chips are
called
Field Programmable Gate Arrays (FPGA). The ones Thompson uses come from
San
Jose chip-maker Xilinx. The transistors of the chip appear as an array
of
"logic cells," which can be changed in value and connected to any other
cell
on the fly. By reprogramming a chip's memory, its logic cells can be
tuned
for any task at hand.

The work draws on the insights of Hugo de Garis, a computer scientist
now
working in Brussels, Belgium, who spent several years building neural
modules -- software units that could be assembled to create artificial
nervous systems.

About that project, de Garis, sounding almost like a biologist, said: "I
was
very conscious of the idea of using bit strings as codable mutatable
instructions ('chromosomes') in evolutionary algorithms."

Let's untangle this. An algorithm is a way of getting something done
through
computer code, something our PCs do every time we run a program. But an
evolutionary algorithm (also called a "genetic" algorithm) is different.
It
generates slight variations to its own code and then puts these changes
through a series of mutations to see what works best. Couple
evolutionary
algorithms with an FPGA and amazing things happen.

You can run through thousands of generations quickly with this
technology,
saving code that works well, rejecting ideas that don't contribute and
breeding in mutations to keep the mix dynamic. At Sussex, Adrian
Thompson
evolved a circuit that could distinguish between two different audio
tones.
It took more than 4,000 generations of algorithm evolution and roughly
two
weeks of computer time and produced results that were, well, strange.

Thompson's chip was doing its work preternaturally well. But how? Out of
100
logic cells he had assigned to the task, only a third seemed to be
critical
to the circuit's work. In other words, the circuit was more efficient by
a
huge order of magnitude than a similar circuit designed by humans using
known principles.

And get this: Evolution had left five logic cells unconnected to the
rest of
the circuit, in a position where they should not have been able to
influence
its workings. Yet if Thompson disconnected them, the circuit failed.
Evidently the chip had evolved a way to use the electromagnetic
properties
of a signal in a nearby cell. But the fact is that Thompson doesn't know
how
it works.

And that's the weird promise of using computers that evolve. These
algorithms take us into an era where accepted design rules break down,
where
components get smaller and the properties of materials are only
sketchily
understood. At this level, pushing into the realm of nanotechnology, it
may
take evolutionary algorithms to work out their own best practice because
we
don't know how to proceed ourselves.

Imagine the philosophical problem this creates. What if you build a
critical
system for, say, a nuclear power plant. It works and works well, but you

don't know how to explain it. Can you implement it? Can you rely on it?

If this sounds theoretical, consider that NASA's Langley Research Center
has
just announced that it is buying a HAL hypercomputer from Star Bridge
Systems of Midvale, Utah. This computer is no larger than a regular
desktop
machine, yet it's roughly 1,000 times faster than traditional commercial

systems because it uses Field Programmable Gate Arrays like those
Thomson
used in his work. Surely the name HAL of 2001 fame is no coincidence.

HAL, after all, was the machine that could think almost as well as a
person,
certainly well enough to threaten the entire crew he was in charge of.
And
though a Star Bridge hypercomputer might not be conscious in any sense
we
would recognize, it's able to use an operating system called Viva to
continually reconfigure itself, adapting specifically to deal with
computing
situations it's handed.

We're just exploring the possibilities of evolutionary algorithms, but
already applications are apparent in areas such as image recognition, in

which a PC might continually refine its methods of identifying what it
sees,
leading to machines that can recognize a human face. And evolvable
hardware
means future computers might be able to upgrade their core circuitry
simply
by downloading new code.

In Japan, Tetsuya Higuchi and his fellow computer scientists at the
Electro-Technical Laboratory are using genetic algorithms to build
analog
circuit components that will go into new cellular telephones. Adaptive
hardware is also being studied at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in
Pasadena,
Calif., to create adaptive sensors for spacecraft. Evolvable computers
aren't yet front-page stuff, but I think they will take us in directions
too
potent to ignore.

http://www.newsobserver dot com/monday/business/Story/419010p-414835c.html

Written by Paul Gilster.

You can also check out the Centre for Computational Neuroscience and
Robotics - at

http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/ccnr/

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:16:38 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

Ed Durrant schreef:

> Graham really !!
>
>  Syslevel listing ......
>
>  at command prompt
>
>  Syslevel  filename.txt  (enter)
>

I take the liberty to add my 2 =80-cents:

There is at Hobbes a program. InProTrack, that scans the system and repor=
ts all syslevel
thingies there are. You can save the info onto a file for reference. Sear=
ch at Hobbes for IPT
or ipt115.



--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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