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Tuesday 19 February 2008
 Number  1607
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Subjects for today
 
1   Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
2  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
4  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
5  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
6  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
7  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>

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Date:  Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:48:18 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:   Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?

Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?

<http://www.linux-watch dot com/news/NS8001941484.html>


Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/


WINERR 005 - LONG FILE NAME ERROR; TAPE ERASED TO MAKE ROOM FOR FILENAME
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Date:  Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:40:25 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?


<quote who="Ian Manners">
> Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?

> <http://www.linux-watch dot com/news/NS8001941484.html>

Microsoft could still come out on top:

if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, he
could still kick Linux...

how's that for a thought ?


-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:49:27 -0700
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ian Manners">
>> Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?
> 
>> <http://www.linux-watch dot com/news/NS8001941484.html>
> 
> Microsoft could still come out on top:
> 
> if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, he
> could still kick Linux...
> 
> how's that for a thought ?
> 
> 

I suspect that Mr. Gates has not had that thought.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which 
is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the 
hearers. Ephesians 4:29

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Date:  Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:25:37 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ian Manners">
>   
>> Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?
>>     
>
>   
>> <http://www.linux-watch dot com/news/NS8001941484.html>
>>     
>
> Microsoft could still come out on top:
>
> if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, he
> could still kick Linux...
>
> how's that for a thought ?
>
>
>   
Or just buys Serenity Systems .......

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:50:37 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?

On 19/02/08 18:25, Ed Durrant wrote:
> Voytek Eymont wrote:

>> if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version,
>> he could still kick Linux...
>> 
>> how's that for a thought ?
>> 
> Or just buys Serenity Systems .......

That's definitely not a cheerful thought. The only time Microsoft buys a
company is when it wants to kill off one or more of its products.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org
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Date:  Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:12:09 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?

Hi Voytek,

>Microsoft could still come out on top:
>
>if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, he
>could still kick Linux...
>
>how's that for a thought ?

Not a good one, look what they have done to a lot of other software
after buying it in, let along developed themselves !

MS only seem to be as good as the rare developer they employ, like
when the HPFS, HPFS386 driver was developed. Bugger knows why they
didnt use something similiar for WinNT back then.

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/


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Date:  Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:54:35 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform?

On 19/02/08 19:12, Ian Manners wrote:

> MS only seem to be as good as the rare developer they employ, like 
> when the HPFS, HPFS386 driver was developed. Bugger knows why they 
> didnt use something similiar for WinNT back then.

They did! I was successfully using  HPFS with NT, and it worked
perfectly well. Then they brought out a version of NT where the
installer, if it found HPFS on any partition, would prompt with "OS/2
detected. Delete?" If you passed that barrier, you got to one where it
said "Unknown file system detected. Format this partition?" Even on that
version, though, you could install the HPFS driver. I used to keep a
copy of the driver (pinball.sys) on my FTP server, for the benefit of
Windows people who wanted a better file system. It wasn't until the
post-NT versions of Windows that the HPFS driver would no longer work.
(And even then, I suspect, it would have worked if the OS hadn't had a
special check to see whether you were trying to install it.)

Of course, that wasn't long after the time when NT was called "OS/2
version 3". (Before it was released, admittedly.) That's why NT version
numbering starts with version 3. The OS/2 components were stripped out
only gradually.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org
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