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Wednesday 14 May 2003
 Number  616
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Subjects for today
 
1   OS/2 support on current laptops : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  OS/2 support on current laptops : Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
3  Re:  OS/2 support on current laptops : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4   eCS 1.1 : Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
5  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  eCS 1.1 : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
7  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
8  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
9  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
12   eCS 1.1 : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
13  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
14  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Tom Perrett" <tomp at st dot net dot au>
15  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Tom Perrett" <tomp at st dot net dot au>
16  Re:  eCS 1.1 : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>

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Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 17:17:50 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   OS/2 support on current laptops

Anyone looking for a laptop system that lists OS/2 as supported
nowadays, has problems finding any, however with more and more hardware
standardisation and multi-model drivers such as Scitech Display doctor,
one should not assume that OS/2 won't run on a particular model simply
because it is not listed as supporting it, as mu recent experiences with
an IBM Thinkpad R31 have shown.

Looking through the IBM support sites, there is no OS/2 drivers listed
for this laptop. the trick is to go through the technical spec and even
the Windoze drivers to find out waht the actual chipsets in use are. The
key chipsets are the video, audio, network and more and more these days,
the USB ones.

In the case of the TP R31, Video, Audio and Network are all using Intel
chips. Although IBM don't list drivers for OS/2 for the TP R31, once you
know which chipsets are used you can go to the Intel Website and guess
what ... they list current updated OS/2 drivers from March 2003.
This took care of Video and NIC, however I was not having such success
on audio (Intel don't list an OS/2 driver for their AC97 compatible
audio chipset). Looking further through the Intel website, I found that
the audio chipset is referred to as the Soundmax chipset, going back to
the IBM website pulled up drivers for OS/2 for the Soundmax chipset,
albeit for a T20 thinkpad not the R31, but so long as the chipset
matches, it should work as well.

I have installed Warp 4 CP2 on the R31 and installed the Intel network
and video drivers - all work fine. I have yet to install the audio
drivers (Uniaud, which was my first choice, recognises the chipset but
simply doesn't give any sound out !). I have also tried Scitech Display
doctor which also works but the Intel video driver seems to give a
clearer image.

One point to note. For some unknown reason, even when power save /
hibernation is disabled in the CMOS, each time you boot when OS/2 loads
VAPM.SYS, the system hibernates and you have to enter the hardware
password for it to continue - solution - remove the lines that refer to
APM out of config.sys - no more problems.

I haven't been able to get the USB attached floppy drive to work yet,
however since the USB chipset is also part of the Intel chips and Intel
USB is supported by Warp, I am hopeful to sort this one out as well,
very soon.

So you see, just because a laptop doesn't list OS/2 it doesn't mean it
wont run on it !

Cheers/2

Ed.

P.S.  eCS v 1.1 to go onto this very same machine in the next few days.

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:13:24 +1100
From:  "Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 support on current laptops

Ed,

I recently installed Warp 4 FP15 on a current model Thinkpad A31. The only thing I can't get to work is the (Win)Modem.

I have Power Management enabled, and can use the Fn-F3 and Fn-F4 buttons to Hibernate, Resume etc.  I did need to get the Veit's version of the Intel NIC card drivers from Hobbes before it would do it.

Peter R.
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:21:01 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 support on current laptops

Chipsets vary across models, but is that the Lucent internal modem ? If so there ARE OS/2 drivers for some Lucent models.

Cheers/2
Ed.

Peter Rehfisch wrote:

> Ed,
>
> I recently installed Warp 4 FP15 on a current model Thinkpad A31. The only thing I can't get to work is the (Win)Modem.
>
> I have Power Management enabled, and can use the Fn-F3 and Fn-F4 buttons to Hibernate, Resume etc.  I did need to get the Veit's version of the Intel NIC card drivers from Hobbes before it would do it.
>
> Peter R.

>  


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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 18:30:12 +0830
From:  Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
Subject:   eCS 1.1

I received my copy today. Now I have to think about what I'm going to do
to install it.

Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
<Open Windows and let the bugs in>




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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:41:57 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

HMMM !!

   I haven't got mine yet ! apparently mark was going to send them out yesterday. The
post to Adelaide seems to be faster than to Sydney from Woodonga !

Cheers/2

Ed.

Leigh Bunting wrote:

> I received my copy today. Now I have to think about what I'm going to do
> to install it.
>
> Leigh Bunting
> Colonel Light Gardens
> South Australia
> <Open Windows and let the bugs in>
>

>  


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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:45:20 +1000 (EST)
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

On Wed, 14 May 2003 18:30:12 +0830, Leigh Bunting wrote:

>I received my copy today. Now I have to think about what I'm going to do
>to install it.

Mine too.  Very nicely presented I thought.  Now I just have to find
time to backup my laptop completely, and do the install.

--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:16:16 +0950 (CST)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

Hey guys,

On Wed, 14 May 2003 20:41:57 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>HMMM !!
>
>   I haven't got mine yet ! apparently mark was going to send them out yesterday. The
>post to Adelaide seems to be faster than to Sydney from Woodonga !
Well my copy hasn't arrived in Adelaide yet :) But I downloaded CD1 and have been running 
it on this machine for a couple of weeks :)

FWIW - I went the reformat c: and reinstall option rather than installing over the top of eCS 
1.0 - install was very smooth!

Have also downloaded CD2 and CD3 but haven't done anything with them yet - gotta love 
Internode flatrate ADSL :) No download limits to worry about!

Cheers,

Paul.

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:22:59 +0950 (CST)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

On Wed, 14 May 2003 20:16:16 +0950 (CST), Paul Smedley wrote:

>Hey guys,
>
>On Wed, 14 May 2003 20:41:57 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>>HMMM !!
>>
>>   I haven't got mine yet ! apparently mark was going to send them out yesterday. The
>>post to Adelaide seems to be faster than to Sydney from Woodonga !
>Well my copy hasn't arrived in Adelaide yet :) But I downloaded CD1 and have been 
running 
>it on this machine for a couple of weeks :)

I tell a lie - just checked the front porch and there it was :) I agree with David - VERY nice 
packaging!!

Cheers,

Paul.

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:52:55 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1



Paul Smedley wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
>
> FWIW - I went the reformat c: and reinstall option rather than installing over the top of eCS
> 1.0 - install was very smooth!
>

 From what I have read, upgrade is not supported, you need to clean install as you did.

>

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:54:35 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

So it wasn't sent via courier then, just simple post ??

Ed.

Paul Smedley wrote:

> On Wed, 14 May 2003 20:16:16 +0950 (CST), Paul Smedley wrote:
>
> >Hey guys,
> >
> >On Wed, 14 May 2003 20:41:57 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> >>HMMM !!
> >>
> >>   I haven't got mine yet ! apparently mark was going to send them out yesterday. The
> >>post to Adelaide seems to be faster than to Sydney from Woodonga !
> >Well my copy hasn't arrived in Adelaide yet :) But I downloaded CD1 and have been
> running
> >it on this machine for a couple of weeks :)
>
> I tell a lie - just checked the front porch and there it was :) I agree with David - VERY nice
> packaging!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>

>  


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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:34:54 +0950 (CST)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

On Wed, 14 May 2003 20:54:35 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>So it wasn't sent via courier then, just simple post ??

Yep - Normal Aahs Post..

Regards,

Paul.

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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 20:40:16 +0950 (CST)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:   eCS 1.1

For anyone that's interested in the packaging that Orion Solutions is providing for eCS 1.1 - 
take a look at http://www.smedley.info/ecs11.html

Photos aren't fanastic but after a 12hour day at work I didn't feel like messing around :)

Regards,

Paul.

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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 21:20:54 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

So whats on the "Bonus" CD then ?

Ed.

Paul Smedley wrote:

> For anyone that's interested in the packaging that Orion Solutions is providing for eCS 1.1 -
> take a look at http://www.smedley.info/ecs11.html
>
> Photos aren't fanastic but after a 12hour day at work I didn't feel like messing around :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul.
>

>  


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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 21:31:55 +1000 (AST)
From:  "Tom Perrett" <tomp at st dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

On Wed, 14 May 2003 20:54:35 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>So it wasn't sent via courier then, just simple post ??

Yes in a nice padded post bag, in two lovely CD jewel cases


Cheers,

Tom       <tomp at st dot net dot au>   Tom Perrett

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**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 21:32:43 +1000 (AST)
From:  "Tom Perrett" <tomp at st dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

On Wed, 14 May 2003 21:31:55 +1000 (AST), Tom Perrett wrote:

>On Wed, 14 May 2003 20:54:35 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>>So it wasn't sent via courier then, just simple post ??
>
>Yes in a nice padded post bag, in two lovely CD jewel cases

Errr, two if you ordered the Applications Pack that is


Cheers,

Tom       <tomp at st dot net dot au>   Tom Perrett

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**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 14 May 2003 21:20:33 +0950 (CST)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.1

On Wed, 14 May 2003 21:20:54 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>So whats on the "Bonus" CD then ?

Based on a the Install Guide that comes up after running install.cmd on CD2, the following 
items are on CD2:
Flash 4 & 5
Mozilla 1.3 (CD1 installs IBM Web Browser)
Desktop on Call
eCS Maintenance Tool
Stellar Frontier
MMPM/2 drivers
Free/Trial software like Graham Utils, Maul Publisher, RSJ, Norman Antivirus
eCSCoNet - Dialer/ISDN/ADSL client
Netware Client
Developer Toolkit
open Watcom
Warp 4 Bonuspak apps

Regards,

Paul.


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