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Date:- 19 March 2001

1) Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
     [os2genau] WPS Image Viewer & Convert to
2) Ian Manners <deadmail>
     Re: [os2genau] WPS Image Viewer & Convert to
3) Ian Manners <deadmail>
     Re: [os2genau] WPS Image Viewer & Convert to
4) Robert Traynor  (BobT) <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
    Re: [os2genau] WPS Image Viewer & Convert to
5) Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] <chrisgatwarpspeed dot com dot au>
    Re: [os2genau] WPS Image Viewer & Convert to
6) Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
    [os2genau] Web Mirror
7) Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautatvillage.uunet.be>
    Re: [os2genau] WPS Image Viewer & Convert to
8) Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
    [os2genau] Associations - this time in Netscape
9) Ian Manners <deadmail>
    Re: [os2genau] WPS Image Viewer & Convert to
10) Ian Manners <deadmail>
       Re: [os2genau] Web Mirror
11) Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
      Re: [os2genau] Web Mirror
12) Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
      Re: [os2genau] Web Mirror
13) Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautatvillage.uunet.be>
      Re: [os2genau] WPS Image Viewer & Convert to

1====================================

Greetings,
1)
How do you get rid of the "Image Viewer" view option for most graphic
formats in the WPS?
2)
How do you get rid of the "Convert to" option on graphic objects?

I'd like to use GBMV2 as my viewer.

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2====================================
Hi Daryl

>1) How do you get rid of the "Image Viewer" view option for most
> graphic formats in the WPS?
>2) How do you get rid of the "Convert to" option on graphic objects?
>I'd like to use GBMV2 as my viewer.

http://www.os2site dot com/sw/util/wps/assoed16.zip

If you are using Object Desktop, there are some setting you
will need to turn off for AssocEdit to work.
Instructions should be in the zip file.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

3====================================
Hi Daryl

My apologies, try assoed21.zip, I thought I had a more
recent version, it was in the wrong directory :-)


Cheers
Ian B Manners

4====================================
Later version is at Henk's Pages:-

http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~henk.kelder/henk/assoed21.zip

BobT.

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:53:17 +1100 (EDT), Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Daryl

>>1) How do you get rid of the "Image Viewer" view option for most
>> graphic formats in the WPS?
>>2) How do you get rid of the "Convert to" option on graphic objects?
>>I'd like to use GBMV2 as my viewer.

>http://www.os2site dot com/sw/util/wps/assoed16.zip

>If you are using Object Desktop, there are some setting you
>will need to turn off for AssocEdit to work.
>Instructions should be in the zip file.

>Ian B Manners

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

5====================================
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:08:31 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Greetings,
>1)
>How do you get rid of the "Image Viewer" view option for most graphic
>formats in the WPS?
>2)
>How do you get rid of the "Convert to" option on graphic objects?
>
>I'd like to use GBMV2 as my viewer.

Apart from the fact that PMView rules.
Go directly to the settings for your viewer and under the associations
page add in *.BMP etc under the new names section. You might want to also
make sure that the Bitmap File etc available types are also added.

For point 1, you'll have to deregister some WPS classes.

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
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                                      http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au

6====================================
Hi All,

   Is anyone else using Web mirror?
  My experiments with Web Mirror from www.maccasoft dot com - the people
who also produce Internet gate, haven't gone to well. This program can 
pre-fetch complete websites to your disk and act like a proxy to serve
them to your browser, or if you run a LAN, to the other PCs on the LAN
- Licence allowing.

  Although I can get the program to pre-load the pages to my firewall
PC. The loading of these pages and related graphics/pages varies from
immediate to not successful - 404 error. The program should also pass
requests through for sites it hasn't pre-loaded, although I have 
configured this it doesn't seem to work.I know I'm only using the demo
version which is limited to 150 objects per web site, however this does
not equate to what is happening.

  At the moment I would not buy this program. As far as I can see I have
configured the program correctly, which is why I am asking if anyone
else on the list uses the product and if they have experienced the same
problems.

  I'm also open to suggestions of other "pre-fetching" proxy programs
for OS/2 if anyone has one they can recommend.

Regards,

Ed Durrant.

7====================================
Daryl Pilkington schreef:

> Greetings,
> 1)
> How do you get rid of the "Image Viewer" view option for most graphic
> formats in the WPS?
> 2)
> How do you get rid of the "Convert to" option on graphic objects?
>
> I'd like to use GBMV2 as my viewer.
>

Right you are.

There is a nasty bug in OS/2,  causing the "Image Viewer" to be the default, no matter
what you do and no matter how you act.

Luckely, there is a fix:

20-11-00 15:21         48.616      0 a---  primgfix.zip

Apply the fix, and you can set any viewer, program, whatever as default, just as you
like it.

You'll get a copy by private mail.

************
OS/2 Warp 4 Default Image File Association Fix
----------------------------------------------

Brought to you by Practice.  Visit us at

http://www.practice.xo dot com

Background info:
A problem was introduced in Warp 4 (and not sufficiently
corrected in FixPak 1) which causes the Open As... view
for image files to be unalterably set to IBM's "Image Viewer".

The fix:
This package installs two new WPS classes which override the
default Open As... view for image files to follow the normal
association rules for data files.

To install:
 - Copy primage.dll to a directory on your LIBPATH,
   such as \OS2\DLL.
 - Run primgfix.exe.
 - Shut down and reboot.

To uninstall:
 - Run the command "primgfix -uninstall".
 - Shut down and reboot.
 - Delete primage.dll from the directory to which
   you copied it.
*****************************

8====================================

I'm presently trying to get a solution that will work to play
Apple Quicktime movies in the Netscape 4.61 browser under OS/2.

I've installed QuickFlick but this can't handle recent formats,
I now wish to remove it's association and install either the IBM
Quickmotion player for OS/2 or possibly a WIN31 or Java one, or even
the Win32 one running via ODIN.

I've manged to remove the association of MOV files to Quckflick under
OS/2 using assoedit and (I think) within Netscape. How do I now tell
Netscape to use one of the other programs when it gets a MOV file ?

I've tryed adding the program under applications however when I go 
to the website I want to watch (www.thebasement dot com dot au) it reports I
don't have a plugin to support the mime video\quicktime format and
points me at the Apple site to download it.

If I do an ABOUT:PLUGINS on the URL line of Netscape, it doesn't list
any of the apps that I have defined, but only those programs with a DLL
file in the plugins directory. My players are applications and not
plugins and hence do not have a plugin DLL - how do I tell Netscape 4.61
to launch the application  ??

Regards,

Ed Durrant.

9====================================
Hi Kris

>There is a nasty bug in OS/2,  causing the "Image Viewer" to be the default, no matter
>what you do and no matter how you act.

Is this bug still current ?
It might be that either ObjectDesktop has fixed the problem for me
many moons ago, or I can remember running a similar fix years ago,
and I've never thought of it since.


Cheers
Ian B Manners


10====================================
Hi Ed

>   Is anyone else using Web mirror?

Use to, until I discovered wget.

>  My experiments with Web Mirror from www.maccasoft dot com - the people
>who also produce Internet gate, haven't gone to well. This program can 
>pre-fetch complete websites to your disk and act like a proxy to serve
>them to your browser, or if you run a LAN, to the other PCs on the LAN
>- Licence allowing.

I've never tried that bit but I can think of better programs, like squid.

>  Although I can get the program to pre-load the pages to my firewall
>PC. The loading of these pages and related graphics/pages varies from
>immediate to not successful - 404 error. The program should also pass
>requests through for sites it hasn't pre-loaded, although I have 
>configured this it doesn't seem to work.I know I'm only using the demo
>version which is limited to 150 objects per web site, however this does
>not equate to what is happening.

I have the registered version, and I've just tried setting it up as
a local proxy but with the same results as you on some sites, it
seems to work only for pure HTML sites, and not on anything
that seems to us ASP, or JAVA, must have something to do with
the calls it makes to the websites.

>  At the moment I would not buy this program. As far as I can see I have
>configured the program correctly, which is why I am asking if anyone
>else on the list uses the product and if they have experienced the same
>problems.

>  I'm also open to suggestions of other "pre-fetching" proxy programs
>for OS/2 if anyone has one they can recommend.

tproxy.zip
delegate6.1.12-os2.zip

http://www.os2site dot com/sw/internet/proxy/

I only refer to my website as other URL's escape me, I'm
also sure there must be a more upto date version of
delegate at the website you should find in the doc's


Cheers
Ian B Manners

11====================================
Thanks Ian, I've downloaded all three (Delegate, Squid & Tproxy) to
try out. I think Daryl uses Delegate but I didn't realise it could
"pre-fetch" sites.

Thanks for the confirmation of problems with Web-Mirror, as you say 
it could be that it's OK on pure HTTP sites but not Java or ASP, that
would tie in with my findings.

I'll let all know how I get on with these packages I think as we want
to make the most out of our internet connections (whether dial-up or
broadband), such utilities become very useful.

Regards

Ed. 

12====================================
Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ian, I've downloaded all three (Delegate, Squid & Tproxy) to
> try out.


From looking at these 3 proxy servers, I can't see anyway of making 
them go at a set time and fetch a specific website back into their
cache. This was the particular option that made me look at Web Mirror.

I realise they will all cache recently accessed pages but that's not
what I need.

Am I missing something ??

Cheers,

Ed.

13====================================
Ian Manners schreef:

> Hi Kris
>
> >There is a nasty bug in OS/2,  causing the "Image Viewer" to be the default, no matter
> >what you do and no matter how you act.
>
> Is this bug still current ?

I'm at FP 9 here and still it is. Dunno about later FP, but afaik it isn't fixed yet.


> many moons ago, or I can remember running a similar fix years ago,
> and I've never thought of it since.

Most likely the latter. Don't think OD has anything to do with it.


--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris


http://www.yahoogroups dot com/group/smartsuite-os2/

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