Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Subject:   No. 40

Date:- 24 April 2001

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From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:28:16 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Hardware: Touch Pad/Glide Pad

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:30:30 +1000, tsqatchariot dot net dot au wrote:

>I have seen one at Hardly Normals, but their returns policy doesn't
>inspire confidence if the device doesn't work as advertised under OS/2 and
>following my luck with OS/2 lately.....

Smiths Dicks arn't much better either.

steve



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Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:59:21 +1000
From: Michael Peters <mpetersatnetspace dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Zampa - anyone use it?

Ian,
    Thanks Ian, i would appreciate that sort of background.

    Mike

Ian Manners wrote:

> Hi Michael
>
> I keep meaning to install Zampa to learn more about the
> IBM TCP/IP v4.3 firewall rules but keep getting sidetracked.
>
> Hopefully we will both learn some more about this.
>
> I do know you can get a start by looking at the IBM RedBook
> on the AIX v4.3.3 Firewall, it uses the same rules and format.
>
> This is a start though.
>
> http://www.os2.spb.ru/guru/tcpip/ipsece.html
>
> The URL I had for the AIX Firewall nolonger works, I should
> have it on CDROM here with the AIX doc's, I'f I find it, I'll put
> it on the website for you.
>
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners

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From: Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Dead SCSI?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:16:31 +1000

Just wondering if anybody out there has a tip re my Adaptec SCSI card and
devices being unrecognised.

All was well until I changed to a Tyan (Intel chipset) dual processor MB.
When Ecs boots, it obvisously says "hello" to my CD burner and SCSI hard
drive as the lights flick on, but won't recognise them (SCSI HDD spins up
and scans during POST too).  The DOS util that came with the card says the
card and devices are all ok.

I haven't installed the SMP upgrade to the OS yet but I'm not sure that the
absence of that is  enough to throw my SCSI setup.  Any ideas?
Slater & Gordon Solicitors - http://www.slatergordon dot com dot au

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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:39:19 +1000
From: Peter <pedrosatsub dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Hardware: Touch Pad/Glide Pad

How about going to a computer swap meet?

Steve Edmonds wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:30:30 +1000, tsqatchariot dot net dot au wrote:
>
> >I have seen one at Hardly Normals, but their returns policy doesn't
> >inspire confidence if the device doesn't work as advertised under OS/2 and
> >following my luck with OS/2 lately.....
>
> Smiths Dicks arn't much better either.
>
> steve
>
> _______________
> Steve Edmonds
> Steve71atattglobal dot net
>

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:30:14 +0900 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Hardware Day Sat 28th April

Hello, folks!

I noting the sad passing of a large Goon, last week when I announced the next meeting of the Melb PC OS/2 SIG tomorrow evening, I failed 
to EMPHASISE the Hardware Day NEXT SATURDAY

Even if you can't make it tomorrow night (although I wouldn't really want you to miss a night of Notes), make sure you can bring your 
machine along to the SIG rooms on Saturday and we can see about getting it running better than you have ever had it running before!

Hope to see you from 10am to 5pm (or anytime in between!)
 


PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
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From: tsqatchariot dot net dot au
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:32:01 +1000
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Hardware: Touch Pad/Glide Pad

On 04/23/01 at 02:32 PM, Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> said:

->I haven't been able to find a touchpad supplier but I did find an
->interesting article on the virtues and not of touchpads.

->  It's at    http://www-3.ibm dot com/ibm/easy/eou_ext.nsf/Publish/808

Interesting read Ed,
Thanks.
Glenn.
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From: tsqatchariot dot net dot au
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:23:07 +1000
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Hardware: Touch Pad/Glide Pad

On 04/23/01 at 02:23 PM, "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
said:

Hi David,

->I'm using one at the moment in my laptop.  It's seen as a PS/2 mouse and
->works perfectly (well the buttons get stuck sometimes, but that's age). 
->And I'm pretty sure that if the external one has a PS/2 connector, it
->will work as a standard two button mouse.  You might not get all the
->extra function that are available via the Windows drivers.  Win95 also
->recognises mine as a PS/2 mouse without any extra drivers.  I did
->install some Win95 drivers at some stage, but they seemed to make it
->work worse!

Thanks for the info, it makes such a difference to hear someone in real
life confirm what you are told by salespeople. In this case yes it works
as a  standard mouse. The one I saw did have PS/2 connector as well. If
I'm lucky Hardlies will still have one as no-one else seems to.

If they were popular a couple of years ago, I can't understand why the 
computer retail kids haven't heard of them !?!

What's replaced them...mice ?

Thanks
Glenn.
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From: "List Admin" <deadmail>
Date: Thur, 19 Apr 2001 03:33:33 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - OS/2UGSA Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

The OS/2 Users Group of South Australia Meeting

Date:  Tuesday, April 24, 2001 
Time:  7:30PM - 9:30PM 
Place: ARPA, 84 Archer St, North Adelaide
           South Australia.

The Monthly Meeting of The OS/2 Users Group of South Australia.

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From: "List Admin" <deadmail>
Date: Thur, 19 Apr 2001 03:33:33 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting 

Date:   Tuesday, April 24, 2001 
Time:  6:30PM - 9:30PM
Place:  Melbourne PC Group
           Victoria, Australia.

The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG 

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From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:11:42 +1000
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Hardware Day Sat 28th April

Hi All,
Just one word of advice here.

If you do come, then bring ALL relevant hardware and any software
(Warp4 CD etc) that may be needed to re-install.
If you think your problem may be complicated, then PLEASE come as
early as you possibly can.

Please do not hope that you can borrow someone else's monitor 
or floppy disks etc.


I will open up and hope to start setting up from about 9.00 am 'ish.
Entry to the building is by way of the rear, from the undercover
car park.

 MELBOURNE PC USERS GROUP Inc. 27 DORCAS STREET 
 SOUTH MELBOURNE, 3205  CNR WELLS ST. SOUTH MELBOURNE VIC 3205

Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
23 April 2001   18:06


On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:30:14 +0900 (EST), John Angelico wrote:

>Hello, folks!

>Make sure you can bring your 
>machine along to the SIG rooms on Saturday and we can see about getting 
it running better than you have ever had it running before!
>
>Hope to see you from 10am to 5pm (or anytime in between!)





   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:32:43 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dead SCSI?

Hi Trevor,

9 times out of 10, SCSI bus problems are termination related.

Are you sure you only have the device at the end of the
chain terminated (active or passive depending upon which 
form od SCSI you are using) and that the intermediate 
device has termination power enabled. Obviously both
devices have to be set to different SCSI IDs and it's 
easier (but not neccessarily essential) if both are the same
"flavor" os SCSI. e.g. both SCSI-II Fast Wide.

If you could tell me which Adaptec card you are using
(the very simple one supplied with some CD Burners is
only fit for the rubbish bin). Generally most Adaptec
SCSI cards work well with OS/2 once correctly
configured.

Oh another point - how many interfaces are on the card
and are the unused ones terminated on the card ?

Ed Durrant

Sydney, Australia.


Trevor Clarke wrote:
> 
> Just wondering if anybody out there has a tip re my Adaptec SCSI card and
> devices being unrecognised.
> 
> All was well until I changed to a Tyan (Intel chipset) dual processor MB.
> When Ecs boots, it obvisously says "hello" to my CD burner and SCSI hard
> drive as the lights flick on, but won't recognise them (SCSI HDD spins up
> and scans during POST too).  The DOS util that came with the card says the
> card and devices are all ok.
> 
> I haven't installed the SMP upgrade to the OS yet but I'm not sure that the
> absence of that is  enough to throw my SCSI setup.  Any ideas?
> Slater & Gordon Solicitors - http://www.slatergordon dot com dot au
> 
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From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:05:02 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Hardware: Touch Pad/Glide Pad

>->I'm using one at the moment in my laptop.  It's seen as a PS/2 mouse and
>->works perfectly (well the buttons get stuck sometimes, but that's age). 
>->And I'm pretty sure that if the external one has a PS/2 connector, it
>->will work as a standard two button mouse.  You might not get all the
>->extra function that are available via the Windows drivers.  Win95 also
>->recognises mine as a PS/2 mouse without any extra drivers.  I did
>->install some Win95 drivers at some stage, but they seemed to make it
>->work worse!
>
>Thanks for the info, it makes such a difference to hear someone in real
>life confirm what you are told by salespeople. In this case yes it works
>as a  standard mouse. The one I saw did have PS/2 connector as well. If
>I'm lucky Hardlies will still have one as no-one else seems to.
>
>If they were popular a couple of years ago, I can't understand why the 
>computer retail kids haven't heard of them !?!

I think you answered it yourself - "kids".  The average age in places
like Harvey Norman is pretty young.  And the older ones are probably
from one of the other departments.

>
>What's replaced them...mice ?

When I said "popular", I probably mistated things.  They were being on
display in most places, but I have no idea if many were sold.  I think
they were good things to display because they were something different,
but, as all computers came with a mouse, it was hard for people to
justify buying them.  (Reminds me of a certain operating system...)

For laptops, it is a different matter.  They have been built in and are
quite usable.  I quite like this one, but I do plug a mouse in when I'm
at a table.  At the moment I'd say that a mouse is better when I'm
doing lots of browsing (ie. when I don't need to use the keyboard
much).  But, if I'm doing  lots of typing, then the glide-pad comes
into use as it's right there.  I also liked IBM's Trackpoint when I
used a Thinkpad a few years ago.  I'll have to read the article that Ed
pointed to.

--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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