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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:57:24 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Hi,
You know, I was starting to think Windoze wasn't so bad after all, but
my 1st hand experience with a Windoze  98 Box has reconfirmed my
suspicions.

If anyone wants to email me off-list with a solution other than format
c: feel free.

A friend of mine said her Internet connection was unreliable, so I
offered to investigate.

Making a note of the existing settings, I started to tune the PPP
connection settings, but mysteriously, it then just stopped working, it
has stayed that way despite:

Reversing the configuration changes.

Deleting the modem configuration & reinstalling the internal hardware
modem as a non-PnP modem, confirming there were no hardware conflicts.

Deleting the Dialup configuration & re-creating it.

Un-installing Dial-Up Adapter & TCP/IP. (Note the files were not
deleted)

*Upgrading* to from Win98->Win98 SE.

This computer is a right PITA.

-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
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               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

2=============================================

Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:24:41 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Realistically the best and quickest solution *IS* to format C: and
installe Warp 4, however if this is not acceptable, the problem is
more than likely, left over settings in the Registry. There are a
lot of good 3rd. party utilities that can reverse changes,
however most of these really require the utility to be installed
BEFORE you screw the system up.

You might wan't to de-install Dial-up support and then go 
through every entry in the registry and delete anything that
looks as if it could be related to modems, Dial-Up-Network
support, then do a cold boot, re-install Dial-up networking
from the Win98 original CD and see how you go.

As I said, you could upgrade the system to OS/2 Warp 4.5 !!

Cheers/2

Ed.


Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> You know, I was starting to think Windoze wasn't so bad after all, but
> my 1st hand experience with a Windoze  98 Box has reconfirmed my
> suspicions.
> 
> If anyone wants to email me off-list with a solution other than format
> c: feel free.
> 
> A friend of mine said her Internet connection was unreliable, so I
> offered to investigate.
> 
> Making a note of the existing settings, I started to tune the PPP
> connection settings, but mysteriously, it then just stopped working, it
> has stayed that way despite:
> 
> Reversing the configuration changes.
> 
> Deleting the modem configuration & reinstalling the internal hardware
> modem as a non-PnP modem, confirming there were no hardware conflicts.
> 
> Deleting the Dialup configuration & re-creating it.
> 
> Un-installing Dial-Up Adapter & TCP/IP. (Note the files were not
> deleted)
> 
> *Upgrading* to from Win98->Win98 SE.
> 
> This computer is a right PITA.
> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Daryl  Pilkington
> 
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
> 
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           ICQ: 91914134
>           Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
>           Mob: +61-425-251-300
>           Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
>       Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
>                (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)
 
3=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:43:51 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Daryl.
Since you brought up the W word.

I have boot manager, warp4 on E:, ntloader on a small dos partition c:, nt on J: and I could make D: 
free at 400Meg.

Can I install win98se on d:
I need this for an intel computer microscope I bought the kids.

Is this advisable, is it feasable without risking my warp install.
I would expect having to reinstall or reset boot partition in boot manager and suspect I may need to 
use ntloader menu to boot to win98(as I do to dos).

Steve

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:57:24 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi,
>You know, I was starting to think Windoze wasn't so bad after all, but
>my 1st hand experience with a Windoze  98 Box has reconfirmed my
>suspicions.
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

4=============================================

Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:09:32 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

All Dos based Windoze variants (3.x, 9x ME) have to be installed
on a primary partition, normally C:. The partition has to start
before cylinder 1024 and below the 514MB limit.

If the D: partition you are talking about is in fact the second
partition on the drive, you could possibly use this but it would 
have to be defined as a primary partition which may mess up
the rest of your drive lettering. So one suggestion - take 399 MB
of the free space, make it a primary partition, add it to the boot
manger (this will become a C: drive), then create a 1 MB
partition in the freespace, imply to keep the drive lettering
correct.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 
> Daryl.
> Since you brought up the W word.
> 
> I have boot manager, warp4 on E:, ntloader on a small dos partition c:, nt on J: and I could make D:
> free at 400Meg.
> 
> Can I install win98se on d:
> I need this for an intel computer microscope I bought the kids.
> 
> Is this advisable, is it feasable without risking my warp install.
> I would expect having to reinstall or reset boot partition in boot manager and suspect I may need to
> use ntloader menu to boot to win98(as I do to dos).
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:57:24 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >You know, I was starting to think Windoze wasn't so bad after all, but
> >my 1st hand experience with a Windoze  98 Box has reconfirmed my
> >suspicions.
> _______________
> Steve Edmonds
> Steve71atattglobal dot net
 
5=============================================

From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:38:29 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Ed,

You are correct but not quite right either.

YES Win9x and DOS etc _HAVE_ to be on drive C:.


BUT.. If you use some other Boot Menu/Manager it can Boot from what is
normally D: or even E:.  

I am not sure, but System Commander might be able to do this.


Personally, I use PowerBoot, a boot manager that lives entirely within
the MBR and I have booted Dos/Win3.1 and once Win95a from a Primary partition on 
the third Hard drive.  What PowerBoot (and some others) does is to re-arrange the 
drive letters of the SELECTED primary partitions to make the operating system THINK it
is booting from Drive C:.  When in fact (from an Os/2 or NT/Win2000 perspective)
it is really drive d: or e: etc as the case may be.

This on the fly drive letter re-assignment is done immediately prior to booting
the OS.  When up and running the OS cannot tell the difference. And neither could the
Norton Utilities of that era either.

I have not tried it with the later Win98/Me but I am sure it would work.
The readme says it can.

By the way, it did NOT work with Os/2. And I doubt wether WinNt or Win 2000 would 
allow it either.

Regards,
BobT.


On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:09:32 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>All Dos based Windoze variants (3.x, 9x ME) have to be installed
>on a primary partition, normally C:. The partition has to start
>before cylinder 1024 and below the 514MB limit.
>
>If the D: partition you are talking about is in fact the second
>partition on the drive, you could possibly use this but it would 
>have to be defined as a primary partition which may mess up
>the rest of your drive lettering. So one suggestion - take 399 MB
>of the free space, make it a primary partition, add it to the boot
>manger (this will become a C: drive), then create a 1 MB
>partition in the freespace, imply to keep the drive lettering
>correct.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Steve Edmonds wrote:
>> 
>> Daryl.
>> Since you brought up the W word.
>> 
>> I have boot manager, warp4 on E:, ntloader on a small dos partition c:, nt on J: and I could make D:
>> free at 400Meg.
>> 
>> Can I install win98se on d:
>> I need this for an intel computer microscope I bought the kids.
>> 
>> Is this advisable, is it feasable without risking my warp install.
>> I would expect having to reinstall or reset boot partition in boot manager and suspect I may need to
>> use ntloader menu to boot to win98(as I do to dos).
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:57:24 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>> 
>> >Hi,
>> >You know, I was starting to think Windoze wasn't so bad after all, but
>> >my 1st hand experience with a Windoze  98 Box has reconfirmed my
>> >suspicions.
>> _______________
>> Steve Edmonds
>> Steve71atattglobal dot net
>> 

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

6=============================================

Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:57:49 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epston Stylus Installation

Well I guess your best bet is to wait until the Install fest
now.  I can't think of anything else to tell you to check.

Did you try a different printer cable by the way ?

Ed.

Alan Duval wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> REM'd the lines 2,3,4,5 in the following but still no contact with the
> printer.
> 
> REM iomega support
> DEVICE=G:\IOMGOS2\IOMGTOOL.SYS
> DEVICE=G:\OAD\OS2.SYS
> BASEDEV=IOMGDRV.FLT
> RUN=G:\IOMGOS2\IOMGSYNC.EXE
> DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,G:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP
> SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_MGA
> SET VIO_VGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA)
> DEVICE=G:\MGA\OS2\KMGAX64.SYS
> SET MGA=G:\MGA\OS2
> SET VIO_MGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BMGAX64)
> DEVICE=G:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS
> DEVICE=G:\OS2\MDOS\VMGAX64.SYS
 
7=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:58:51 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] warp4+w98

Thanks Ed.
Following is fdisk screen. I assume you mean remove c: from the boot men=
u,
repartition d: to a primary at 399 M and assign it C: in boot manager, t=
he 
remaining to be a 1 meg D: for consistancy.

Can I change d: to a primary partition, C: is now my only primary partit=
ion.

I once had to repair my partition table that win trashed with partition =
magic and I 
think I could change from logical to primary

Both sound risky. C: is my only primary partition.
What about a 4th hard drive with primary partition that would be D:, jus=
t have to 
do something with current logical D:



 Disk 1 2 3
                                                                        =
     
 Partition Information
 Name          Status               Access           FS Type          MB=
ytes
                                                                        =
     
               Startable           : Primary         BOOT MANAGER       =
 3
 dos/nt4       Bootable           C: Primary         FAT                =
15
               None               D: Logical         FAT               4=
01
 OS/2          Bootable           E: Logical         HPFS              3=
50
               None               F: Logical         HPFS              6=
30
               None               G: Logical         HPFS              5=
00
               None               H: Logical         HPFS               =
70
 os22          Bootable           I: Logical         HPFS             11=
02
               None                : Pri/Log         FreeSpace          =
 3

steve

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:09:32 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>All Dos based Windoze variants (3.x, 9x ME) have to be installed
>on a primary partition, normally C:. The partition has to start
>before cylinder 1024 and below the 514MB limit.
>
>If the D: partition you are talking about is in fact the second
>partition on the drive, you could possibly use this but it would 
>have to be defined as a primary partition which may mess up
>the rest of your drive lettering. So one suggestion - take 399 MB
>of the free space, make it a primary partition, add it to the boot
>manger (this will become a C: drive), then create a 1 MB
>partition in the freespace, imply to keep the drive lettering
>correct.
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

8=============================================

Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:07:36 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] eComstation release in Sydney ?

I have seen postings on this an other listserves of eComstation
demonstrations and even Install fests all over the place over the
next couple of weeks. Bay Area California, Phoenix Arizona,
Melbourne and I think even something in Adelaide (?) but what
about Sydney ?? 

Is Mark or Daryl monitoring this istserve - can they give us
an update on this ?? 

Perhaps there's not enough OS/2 Users in Sydney to warrant it ?
 

Cheers/2

Ed.

9=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:15:02 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Bob,
I suppose my best bet is to try to slide c: into most of D:.
Should be able to do this with partition magic but V5 doesn't 
like my OS/2 partitions, was a little note in the back of the 
manual about it not liking OS/2 or linux partitions not formed by 
PM on certain boundaries.

steve


On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:38:29 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT) 
wrote:

>Ed,
>
>You are correct but not quite right either.
>
>YES Win9x and DOS etc _HAVE_ to be on drive C:.
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

10=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:16:43 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] eComstation release in Sydney ?

Theres 1 left in NZ.

steve
On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:07:36 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Perhaps there's not enough OS/2 Users in Sydney to warrant it ?
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

11=============================================

Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:22:15 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] warp4+w98

One thing we need to clear up. The (IBM) Boot manager does
not control the drive letter, the partition table does that. As Bob
said there are other boot managers that can swop letters around. In fact
I wonder if installing LVM (Logical Volume
Manager) from OS/2 Warp Client - convienience pack, might also
be able to do this ?

Any harddrive can have up to 4 primary partitions on it. Boot
manager uses one of these, so that means a maximum of 3.
Therefore if you delete what your partition table shows as 
the 401 MB second physical partition and recreate it as a 400 MB
primary partition and add it to the boot manager. Boot manager
will "swop" the C: drive letter between them. The selected
partition will get the C: drive letter and the other primary
partition will become 'invisible'. However as I said, changing this
partition to a primary, shuffles all the remaining letters up, so
what was E: becomes D:, F: becomes E:, G: becomes F:, H:
becomes G: and I: becomes H:  As there are inevitably 
configuration files that rely on the existing lettering scheme,
just creating the extra primary partition will cause most things
to stop working. By adding another (Logical) partition in, the 
following letters stay as they are and everything should
(hopefully) still work.   You can of course split the 401 MB
differently, say 300MB for Win9x and 101 MB as a shared data
drive.

 It's up to you.

Cheers/2

Ed. 
 


Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ed.
> Following is fdisk screen. I assume you mean remove c: from the boot menu,
> repartition d: to a primary at 399 M and assign it C: in boot manager, the
> remaining to be a 1 meg D: for consistancy.
> 
> Can I change d: to a primary partition, C: is now my only primary partition.
> 
> I once had to repair my partition table that win trashed with partition magic and I
> think I could change from logical to primary
> 
> Both sound risky. C: is my only primary partition.
> What about a 4th hard drive with primary partition that would be D:, just have to
> do something with current logical D:
> 
>  Disk 1 2 3
> 
>  Partition Information
>  Name          Status               Access           FS Type          MBytes
> 
>                Startable           : Primary         BOOT MANAGER        3
>  dos/nt4       Bootable           C: Primary         FAT                15
>                None               D: Logical         FAT               401
>  OS/2          Bootable           E: Logical         HPFS              350
>                None               F: Logical         HPFS              630
>                None               G: Logical         HPFS              500
>                None               H: Logical         HPFS               70
>  os22          Bootable           I: Logical         HPFS             1102
>                None                : Pri/Log         FreeSpace           3
> 
> steve
> 
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:09:32 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >All Dos based Windoze variants (3.x, 9x ME) have to be installed
> >on a primary partition, normally C:. The partition has to start
> >before cylinder 1024 and below the 514MB limit.
> >
> >If the D: partition you are talking about is in fact the second
> >partition on the drive, you could possibly use this but it would
> >have to be defined as a primary partition which may mess up
> >the rest of your drive lettering. So one suggestion - take 399 MB
> >of the free space, make it a primary partition, add it to the boot
> >manger (this will become a C: drive), then create a 1 MB
> >partition in the freespace, imply to keep the drive lettering
> >correct.
> _______________
> Steve Edmonds
> Steve71atattglobal dot net
 
12=============================================

From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:46:57 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Steve,

I have not come across PM not "liking" os/2 partitions unless you mean
PM keeps offering to fix them.  To which I say yes.

I am using PM 6 and PM 6.01 Pro and the only thing I do NOT let PM
do, is to convert Extended partitions to ExtendedX. (A newish Microsoft cludge).

I have had a problem with linux partitions created with linux equivalent of fdisk.
Apparently Linux (In my case, Mandrake Linux 8.0) numbers the logical partitions
in the order of their creation, rather than from head to tail.
The result is PM and DriveImage cannot see the entire drive, although everything 
still works ok.  You get a "Partition Error #120" message in Partition Magic 6.

I have recently purchased a PM like program from Germany, called Paragon Partition Manager.
It functions very much like PM but without the gloss and everything is done, 
ONE step at a time.  Its advantages are that it cames with a DriveImage type
program for free (called Drive Backup, but not used it yet) and that it will 
resize any partition on a WinNT 4.0 SERVER.

Partition Magic flatly refuses to work on the NT server 4.0 at work.  They want you
to buy their Server Magic program which DOES work on NT servers, with a separate 
program again for Netware servers, at same price.

With a price of approx $550 US Dollars for "Server Magic for NT v4.0" as against 
#43.00 US Dollars for Paragon, guess which one I bought.  :)

Hope this helps or is of interest.

BobT.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:15:02 +1100 (EDT), Steve Edmonds wrote:

>Bob,
>I suppose my best bet is to try to slide c: into most of D:.
>Should be able to do this with partition magic but V5 doesn't 
>like my OS/2 partitions, was a little note in the back of the 
>manual about it not liking OS/2 or linux partitions not formed by 
>PM on certain boundaries.
>
>steve
>
>
>On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:38:29 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT) 
>wrote:
>
>>Ed,
>>
>>You are correct but not quite right either.
>>
>>YES Win9x and DOS etc _HAVE_ to be on drive C:.
>_______________
>Steve Edmonds
>Steve71atattglobal dot net
>


   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

13=============================================

Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:07:31 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

I agree with your comments on Partition Magic's marketting Bob.
I hit the same problem with NT Server partitions, perhaps I
should check out paragon. 

Partition Magic when it first came out was a revolutionary
quality OS/2 product. As they added support for the various Winx
partition and file formats, it became less attractive and now I
believe the only OS it runs under graphically is Win 9x. OS/2 
support being delegated to the boot disk character mode that 
used to have to be used for NT. Now pulling out support for NT
server partitions purely for marketting reasons puts me right off
the product.

By the way, the free Drive Backup program you mention may be
the same one that is often given away with new drives. I'm not
sure if I got it with a seagate or a WD drive I bought but the
software is drive manufacturer independant.

Off to look at http://www.paragon.de  I guess that's what their
website will be called.

Cheers/2

Ed.  

"Robert Traynor (BobT)" wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> I have not come across PM not "liking" os/2 partitions unless you mean
> PM keeps offering to fix them.  To which I say yes.
> 
> I am using PM 6 and PM 6.01 Pro and the only thing I do NOT let PM
> do, is to convert Extended partitions to ExtendedX. (A newish Microsoft cludge).
> 
> I have had a problem with linux partitions created with linux equivalent of fdisk.
> Apparently Linux (In my case, Mandrake Linux 8.0) numbers the logical partitions
> in the order of their creation, rather than from head to tail.
> The result is PM and DriveImage cannot see the entire drive, although everything
> still works ok.  You get a "Partition Error #120" message in Partition Magic 6.
> 
> I have recently purchased a PM like program from Germany, called Paragon Partition Manager.
> It functions very much like PM but without the gloss and everything is done,
> ONE step at a time.  Its advantages are that it cames with a DriveImage type
> program for free (called Drive Backup, but not used it yet) and that it will
> resize any partition on a WinNT 4.0 SERVER.
> 
> Partition Magic flatly refuses to work on the NT server 4.0 at work.  They want you
> to buy their Server Magic program which DOES work on NT servers, with a separate
> program again for Netware servers, at same price.
> 
> With a price of approx $550 US Dollars for "Server Magic for NT v4.0" as against
> #43.00 US Dollars for Paragon, guess which one I bought.  :)
> 
> Hope this helps or is of interest.
> 
> BobT.
> 
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:15:02 +1100 (EDT), Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 
> >Bob,
> >I suppose my best bet is to try to slide c: into most of D:.
> >Should be able to do this with partition magic but V5 doesn't
> >like my OS/2 partitions, was a little note in the back of the
> >manual about it not liking OS/2 or linux partitions not formed by
> >PM on certain boundaries.
> >
> >steve
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 20:38:29 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Ed,
> >>
> >>You are correct but not quite right either.
> >>
> >>YES Win9x and DOS etc _HAVE_ to be on drive C:.
> >_______________
> >Steve Edmonds
> >Steve71atattglobal dot net
> >
> 
>    ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
>  /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
>  \_,--.x/
 
14=============================================

Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:14:39 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Actually the URL is:

http://www.paragon-gmbh dot com/n_systutil.htm

Ed.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> I agree with your comments on Partition Magic's marketting Bob.
> I hit the same problem with NT Server partitions, perhaps I
> should check out paragon.

15=============================================

From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:43:34 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:43:51 +1100 (EDT), Steve Edmonds wrote:

>Daryl.
>Since you brought up the W word.
>
>I have boot manager, warp4 on E:, ntloader on a small dos partition c:, nt on J: and I could make D: 
>free at 400Meg.
>
>Can I install win98se on d:
>I need this for an intel computer microscope I bought the kids.
>
>Is this advisable, is it feasable without risking my warp install.
>I would expect having to reinstall or reset boot partition in boot manager and suspect I may need to 
>use ntloader menu to boot to win98(as I do to dos).
>

I haven't done it, but, there are instruction with XOSL (Extended OS
Loader - or something like that) on how to get the various Windows
versions off the C:.  XOSL is what I use on my laptop to boot Warp and
Win2000.  Go to www.xosl dot org for info.

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David Forrester
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http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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