Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2001 01:00:40 +1100 (EDT)
Subject:   No. 20

Date:- 04 April 2001

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:57:02 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM

Hi Edward

>Saddest news, when talking to one of the IBM technical support persons, in
>Adelaide, yesterday. IBM has stopped support for OS/2, as of Jan31, 2001.

Dont Panic, there are still the mailing lists.

The IBM "persons" have got it right, there is no longer "free"
support for Warp v4, there is still the option of getting paid
support but thats a bit on the steep side for non corporate
users, plus the fact most aussie service people are hopeless
when it comes to OS/2, notice I did say most.

>Support for OS/2 Server for e-business continues.

Of which most FP's will work with Warp v4.5, hence the
code base intergration between Warp v4.5 and WSeB.

And dont forget there is also the option of Purchasing eComStation,
which will also give you support, and a good price on a
SoftWareChoice alternative. 

http://www.ecomstation dot com dot au
http://www.ecomstation dot com

>On the other hand Netscape 6.01 for OS/2 should be relased soon.

Already on SWC.

>In spite of the above, I think I will continue to use Warp4 until the candles
>blow out. It is the best OS I have experienced, although Linux (SuSE) is now
>running a second best.

I will admit the Linux GUI is improving, at long last.

>On another subject: Who has, or can point me onto where to get, the "Fisetup"
>files required to install Java. ( This is how I got to Adelaide Tech dept.)

http://service.boulder.ibm dot com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/fi12/f-feat.htm
Hobbes
Leo
http://www.os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/util/fi125spe.zip

Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: e.howardatwriteme dot com
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 08:00:20 +1100
Subject: [os2genau] IBM

Hi All,
Saddest news, when talking to one of the IBM technical support persons, in
Adelaide, yesterday. IBM has stopped support for OS/2, as of Jan31, 2001.
Support for OS/2 Server for e-business continues.
On the other hand Netscape 6.01 for OS/2 should be relased soon.

In spite of the above, I think I will continue to use Warp4 until the candles
blow out. It is the best OS I have experienced, although Linux (SuSE) is now
running a second best.

On another subject: Who has, or can point me onto where to get, the "Fisetup"
files required to install Java. ( This is how I got to Adelaide Tech dept.)

All the best

Edward

p.s. Perhaps we should all send a note of distress to Lou Getzner!
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Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:57:43 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM

Please give me the name of the "IBM Technician" who told you the fairy tale
about IBM stopping OS/2 support.

I used to work in IBM Adelaide and I'd like to put this person as well as
yourselves right on the matter.

IBM have a published policy on OS/2 support over the next 5 years. Basically
support is received is you take out a support contract (software choice). This
is documented in a PDF file available on the web. We keep seeing new
developments for OS/2. The new Browser (Equivalent of Netscape 6) was released
two days ago, as was a new HTTP (Web) server for OS/2. So IBM ARE still
developing for OS/2 and obviously supporting these developments as well as
the base OS.

 It could be that "Free" support is being stopped. This is not unusual. How much
do you want to get for your $250 ??  Microsoft, Novell, Sun etc. all do the same.

The New Convienience Pack version of OS/2 Warp Client (released about 6 weeks
ago) is definately fully supported. Have you tried getting support for Windows 3.1
NT 3.51 or even Windows 95 from Microsoft lately ??

Regards,

Ed Durrant.

P.S. Please be careful posting such "rumours" to news lists, they spread like wildfire.


e.howardatwriteme dot com wrote:

> Hi All,
> Saddest news, when talking to one of the IBM technical support persons, in
> Adelaide, yesterday. IBM has stopped support for OS/2, as of Jan31, 2001.
> Support for OS/2 Server for e-business continues.
> On the other hand Netscape 6.01 for OS/2 should be relased soon.
>
> In spite of the above, I think I will continue to use Warp4 until the candles
> blow out. It is the best OS I have experienced, although Linux (SuSE) is now
> running a second best.
>
> On another subject: Who has, or can point me onto where to get, the "Fisetup"
> files required to install Java. ( This is how I got to Adelaide Tech dept.)
>
> All the best
>
> Edward
>
> p.s. Perhaps we should all send a note of distress to Lou Getzner!
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Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:17:20 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM

Further to my previous note - here is the IBM Strategy document for OS/2


http://www-4.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/strategy/


And other OS/2 related docuuments can be found at:


http://www-4.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/library/

The article :  Continuing Support and Features for IBM OS/2 and IBM OS/2 Warp Server for
e-business — All Yours Via IBM Software Choice

can be found at:

http://www-4.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/news/


I think that covers all angles.

Ed.

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Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:21:20 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] And the Convienience Pack

Another reference, this time a clear policy statement again, including a
"whats in it"
for software choice and convience pack:

http://www-4.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/swchoice/

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Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:28:18 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM

e.howardatwriteme dot com wrote:

> p.s. Perhaps we should all send a note of distress to Lou Getzner!

I can imagine his response: "What!! I've been told that we killed that off years ago. Are
people still using ........ what is it again? OS/2?"
--
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 20:35:23 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] And the Convienience Pack

Hmm, yes

Talking about convenience packs, anyone who has SWC
got theres yet ?

Cheers
Optimistic Me

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 20:37:29 +0900 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM

On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:28:18 +0830, Leigh Bunting wrote:

>e.howardatwriteme dot com wrote:
>
>> p.s. Perhaps we should all send a note of distress to Lou Getzner!
>
>I can imagine his response: "What!! I've been told that we killed that off years ago. Are
>people still using ........ what is it again? OS/2?"
>--

Nah, he'll probably say "Oh, izat what those support guys did? I
never could use my machine properly after the 'upgraded' me. The
right mouse button wasn't doing what it was supposed to..."

<GD&R>



Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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