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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 10:36:31 +1000
From: Peter Godbold <spgatgil dot com dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Warpcentre File Backup

Bob Traynor wrote:

> I also (but did not inform you) have a *.zip  backup of the complete desktop,
> Os2*.ini files, all Windows *.ini files, config.sys and autoexec.bat
> and all the WarpCentre files and a few others.

Bob, 

Lifting the above quote from the discussion thread between yourself and
Kris Steenhaut on lost desktops, may I pose a question on a related
topic?

I recently lost my Warpcentre settings on a power failure, and after
trying to find a way of recovering (I use Unimaint regularly) I finally
resorted to the tedious task of rebuilding all of my trays!

Can you or someone else advise on the best (or any??) way of restoring
the Warpcentre?  Where does all of that data live?

Peter

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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 03:20:06 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpcentre File Backup



Peter Godbold schreef:

> Can you or someone else advise on the best (or any??) way of restoring
> the Warpcentre?  Where does all of that data live?
>

Backup!

Just backup the dock* files in the \os2\dll directory.



--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris


3==============================================

From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:17:43 +0900 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpcentre File Backup

On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 03:20:06 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

Hi Kris and Peter

>
>Peter Godbold schreef:
>
>> Can you or someone else advise on the best (or any??) way of restoring
>> the Warpcentre?  Where does all of that data live?
>>
>
>Backup!
>
>Just backup the dock* files in the \os2\dll directory.

These are the files you need to backup: 
c:\os2\dll\scenter.cfg
c:\os2\dll\dock*.cfg

(My OS2 drive is c: of course)



Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
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--------------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:35:01 +1000
From: Peter Godbold <spgatgil dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpcentre File Backup

Thanks John and Kris!  I have added these to my Unimaint Supplemental
Backup.

Peter

John Angelico wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 03:20:06 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> Hi Kris and Peter
> 
> >
> >Peter Godbold schreef:
> >
> >> Can you or someone else advise on the best (or any??) way of restoring
> >> the Warpcentre?  Where does all of that data live?
> >>
> >
> >Backup!
> >
> >Just backup the dock* files in the \os2\dll directory.
> 
> These are the files you need to backup:
> c:\os2\dll\scenter.cfg
> c:\os2\dll\dock*.cfg
> 
> (My OS2 drive is c: of course)
> 
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG
> talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
> --------------------------------------------
> 
> PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
> ... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!"
> 

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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:20:33 
From: Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] is ADSL the way to go ?

we're currently on Telstra ETSI ISDN BRI;

I've just got a flyer form Connexus offering ADSL for a 1/4 what we pay
Telstra for ISDN, and, 4 times the bandwith;

is ADSL the way to go ?

what the downside ?

any issues with hosting services on ADSL ?

any Oz ADSL stories ?

are Connexus OK ?

what else to watch out for...?



Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 

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From: "VanEps, Brad" <BVanEpsatracq dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] is ADSL the way to go ?
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:48:08 +1000 

G'day,


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Voytek Eymont [mailto:voytekatsbt dot net dot au]

> we're currently on Telstra ETSI ISDN BRI;
> 
> I've just got a flyer form Connexus offering ADSL for a 1/4 
> what we pay
> Telstra for ISDN, and, 4 times the bandwith;
> 
> is ADSL the way to go ?

If you can get it, I highly recommend OptusatHome cable
(http://www.optushome dot com dot au/) which is available in areas on Sydney,
Melbourne and Brisbane.  It's faster (I get ~3Mbit/sec download, 128Kbit/sec
upload) and cheaper than ADSL, and from broadband news reports
(http://whirlpool dot net dot au/), seems more reliable as well.

And best of all, it works *great* with OS/2!  No silly dialer programs; your
IP address is DHCP assigned (though is static!) so you just boot up your
machine and off you go.  That is, if you bother rebooting at all ...  :-)


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From: <djnatpeninsula.hotkey dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] parse error using gcc 2.8.1
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 21:59:18 -1000

On Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:09:50 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi,
>I'm learning C++ programming.
>
>I get:
>Tabitha> gcc WK13L31.cpp -lstdcpp -s
>WK13L31.cpp: In function `int main()':
>WK13L31.cpp:5: parse error before `using'
>
>The error is with the:
>...
>using std::cout:
>...
>statement.
>What am I doing wrong?
>
>APPENDIX:
>Compiler:
>gcc 2.8.1
>
>WK13L31.cpp
>************************************************
>#include <iostream>
>
>int main()
>{
>   using std::cout;
>
>//  cout << "The size of an int is:\t\t"
>//     << sizeof(int)     << " bytes.\n";
>//  cout << "The size of a short int is:\t"
>//     << sizeof(short)   << " bytes.\n";
>//  cout << "The size of a long int is:\t"
>//     << sizeof(long)    << " bytes.\n";
>//  cout << "The size of a char is:\t\t"
>//     << sizeof(char)    << " bytes.\n";
>//  cout << "The size of a float is:\t\t"
>//     << sizeof(float)   << " bytes.\n";
>//  cout << "The size of a double is:\t"
>//     << sizeof(double)  << " bytes.\n";
>//  cout << "The size of a bool is:\t\t"
>//     << sizeof(bool)    << " bytes.\n";
>
>   return 0;
> }
>************************************************
>
>-- 
>Regards, 
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>          ICQ: 91914134
>          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
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>
>
At a guess :

Try moving " using std::cout;" outside the main() function

Also I was under the impression that in C++ the double slash // at the 
begining of a line indicated a comment and so is ignored by the 
compiler.

So
int main()
{
   using std::cout;

return 0;

is what you are compiling.

I'm not convinced that you need the int before main()

but like I said, I'm not a C or C++ programmer, and every time I see any
C or C++ source code reinforces my determination to have nothing to do 
with either of them.

Regards
Dennis.


8==============================================

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:56:03 +1000
From: Michael Peters <mpetersatnetspace dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] TCPIP configuration

Ed,
  Someone once wrote that we should keep a notebook alongside
the OS/2 box to record all changes etc. :-) . My advancing dementia
would benefit if I was this thorough ! I have been wading through
all the bits of paper ( printouts) I have used to get me this far.... and
into this problem.
  Firstly, I used two how-to's to setup the lan.
a) Frank Field's 1998 piece " Setting up OS/2 Peer-to-Peer Networking
    & Coexistence of Warp & NT Machines on the MITNet."
    See: http://www.phillyos2 dot org/networking.htm
b) Judy McDermott's "Lan Setup"  at http://www.gt-online dot com/~bri

  When I inspect my settings I note they are completely in keeping
with Field's . There is no TCP/IP Configuration (Lan) icon and all that
Remote Configuration stuff is as he shows it.
  But I am using TCP/iP 4.3 with some updates which I applied
when I had a problem and a mailing in the eCS user group said to
do so. It fixed that problem. Ver 4.3 has a Java front end as you would
know. When I run tcpcfg2.cmd to produce the eCS TCPIP notebook
I get:
[C:\]tcpcfg2
java.lang.NullPointerException
        at COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2 dot common.FileLock.releaseLock
(FileLock.java:160)
        at COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.client.Tcpcfg2.exitApplet
(Tcpcfg2.java:563)
        at COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.client.Tcpcfg2.init
(Tcpcfg2.java:234)
        at COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.client.Tcpcfg2c.main
(Tcpcfg2c.java:137)

And that's about it. I think i'll do as you suggest and re-install.
I realise BTW that I have to use a NAT/ Firewall add-on like
Injoy. Actually I'll use SafeFire. These programs are easier
to set-up than Zampa which is included in the GA of eCS.

Many thanks for your imput. I'm sure I speak for other
try-hards like me when I say I appreciate it.

Mike


Ed Durrant wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>    Firstly before anyone labels this an eCs bug. I had it some time
> ago on Warp 4 (I guess around FP5 - but that's not relevant).
>
>    The TCP/IP Stack does not perform IP masqurading AFAIK - one
> usually uses one of the FX Communications (InJoy) products.
>
>    Another point the NET commands are related to the "windows
> networking"
> (ie Netbeui) not to the Pure TCP/IP 4.x where you are having this
> problem.
>
>    In short, you selected a wrong option (or it was autoselected - in
> which case
> you could call this an eCs bug) in activating remote administration of
> TCP/IP.
> Don't do it ! Use Desktop on Call to go to the box to change TCP/IP
> settings
> if neccessary.
>
>    As I said I have had this problem when I installed TCP/IP V 4.1 soon
> after it
> was released. I searched high and low to find how to regain control of
> TCPCFG2
> but to no avail. In the end I simply de-installed and re-installed
> TCP/IP and
> was VERY careful not to select remote administration the next time !
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed Durrant.
>
>
>
> Michael Peters wrote:
> >
> > I am running eCS preview 1 on a lan with two win boxes. Protocols
> > are IBM OS/2 NETBIOS, IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP and IBM
> > TCP/IP. The TCPIP is ver 4.3. The adapter is a simple 3Com Etherlink
> > III Family OS/2.
> > When I installed this stuff I did not install IP masquerading viz.
> > enable
> > IP forwarding in the router page of the TCPIP config notebook. Now
> > I would like to and I'll also continue with the firewall installation.
> > However, when I call up the config notebook ( tcpcfg2.cmd)
> > I get an error message:
> > "Cannot start the local TCP/IP configuration notebook at this time
> > because the remote TCP/IP configuration server is running and has
> > files locked. Stop the remote TCP/IP configuration server to run the
> > local configuration notebook"
> >   I get this message after turning off both win boxes, removing
> > TCP/IP Startup from the startup folder and renaming startup.cmd
> > where I have the net start stuff. My TCPIP Configuration folder
> > does not have a TCP/IP Configuration (lan) icon but it does have
> > local and Allow Remote Configuration. If I use Selective Install
> > for Networking I am told:
> > "TCP/IP services cannot be installed until a newer version that
> > is already installed on your system is removed"
> >   So..... what to do. Is there a line I can add with an editor to
> > dodge this gui problem. Should I remove TCPIP 4.3 via the icon
> > provided and start again?
> >   What a black art!
> >
> >   Michael Peters
> >

9==============================================

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 11:15:17 +1000
From: Michael Peters <mpetersatnetspace dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] TCPIP configuration

Bob,
  It's strange but I had noted that file, as a pencil note, on one of the
two lan setup how-to's I used. I probably saw it in the newsgroup
survey I did. I t is located in C:\MPTN and has been renamed to
ibmlanlk.lsk so I must have had a look at this troublesome file
sometime or other. Anyway, it does not appear to be the culprit
in preventing the TCPIP notebook from opening.
  Thanks for your usual helpful info Bob.

  Mike

"Robert Traynor (BobT)" wrote:

> Michael,
>
> This MAY be relevant to you.  If not then Ian or Ed will probably jump in
> and help you.
>
> Quote on from a Newsgroup discussion:-
>
> "If you have NOT re-installed MPTS, then delete the file IBMLANLK.LST
> found in the \OS2\INSTALL directory on the boot drive. This will allow
> you to start MPTS."
>
> Quote off...
>
> While it does refer to MPTS it MAY still be relevant to your situation.
>
> So, search for the file IBMLANLK.LST and rename it at least and see what happens.
>
> Otherwise Ed or Ian or Daryl will probably come up with something.
>
> Hope this helps.
> BobT.
>
> On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 17:10:23 +1000, Michael Peters wrote:
>
> >I am running eCS preview 1 on a lan with two win boxes. Protocols
> >are IBM OS/2 NETBIOS, IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP and IBM
> >TCP/IP. The TCPIP is ver 4.3. The adapter is a simple 3Com Etherlink
> >III Family OS/2.
> >When I installed this stuff I did not install IP masquerading viz.
> >enable
> >IP forwarding in the router page of the TCPIP config notebook. Now
> >I would like to and I'll also continue with the firewall installation.
> >However, when I call up the config notebook ( tcpcfg2.cmd)
> >I get an error message:
> >"Cannot start the local TCP/IP configuration notebook at this time
> >because the remote TCP/IP configuration server is running and has
> >files locked. Stop the remote TCP/IP configuration server to run the
> >local configuration notebook"
> >  I get this message after turning off both win boxes, removing
> >TCP/IP Startup from the startup folder and renaming startup.cmd
> >where I have the net start stuff. My TCPIP Configuration folder
> >does not have a TCP/IP Configuration (lan) icon but it does have
> >local and Allow Remote Configuration. If I use Selective Install
> >for Networking I am told:
> >"TCP/IP services cannot be installed until a newer version that
> >is already installed on your system is removed"
> >  So..... what to do. Is there a line I can add with an editor to
> >dodge this gui problem. Should I remove TCPIP 4.3 via the icon
> >provided and start again?
> >  What a black art!
> >
> >  Michael Peters
> >
> >
>
>    ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
>  /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
>  \_,--.x/
>


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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 17:02:36 +1000
From: Michael Peters <mpetersatnetspace dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpcentre File Backup

Peter,
   I have written a little program to do the WarpCentre backup
and restore. I will send it to you on Monday next because it is
enravelled with my desktop backup program and I have to.....
you know what I mean....


Mike

Peter Godbold wrote:

> Bob Traynor wrote:
>
> > I also (but did not inform you) have a *.zip  backup of the complete desktop,
> > Os2*.ini files, all Windows *.ini files, config.sys and autoexec.bat
> > and all the WarpCentre files and a few others.
>
> Bob,
>
> Lifting the above quote from the discussion thread between yourself and
> Kris Steenhaut on lost desktops, may I pose a question on a related
> topic?
>
> I recently lost my Warpcentre settings on a power failure, and after
> trying to find a way of recovering (I use Unimaint regularly) I finally
> resorted to the tedious task of rebuilding all of my trays!
>
> Can you or someone else advise on the best (or any??) way of restoring
> the Warpcentre?  Where does all of that data live?
>
> Peter

11==============================================

From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 18:06:53 +1000
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpcentre File Backup

Peter,

As John has already said in his reply:-

These are the files you need to backup: 
:\os2\dll\scenter.cfg
:\os2\dll\dock*.cfg

As John would know, I use "Deskbak" to backup the whole os/2
desktop and all crucial files.  It is a pity that the author,
Andrew Keil, lost his source code years ago.  It is a very
good backup system even with the few known problems it has 
and I far prefer it to Unimaint's backup system.

Deskbak is available to all members of MelbPc Os2 SIG group
on a donation basis, courtesy of Andrew Keil, past Co-ordinator.


Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
6 July 2001   18:06

On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 10:36:31 +1000, Peter Godbold wrote:

>Bob Traynor wrote:
>
>> I also (but did not inform you) have a *.zip  backup of the complete desktop,
>> Os2*.ini files, all Windows *.ini files, config.sys and autoexec.bat
>> and all the WarpCentre files and a few others.
>
>Bob, 
>
>Lifting the above quote from the discussion thread between yourself and
>Kris Steenhaut on lost desktops, may I pose a question on a related
>topic?
>
>I recently lost my Warpcentre settings on a power failure, and after
>trying to find a way of recovering (I use Unimaint regularly) I finally
>resorted to the tedious task of rebuilding all of my trays!
>
>Can you or someone else advise on the best (or any??) way of restoring
>the Warpcentre?  Where does all of that data live?
>
>Peter





   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 


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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 20:10:29 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpcentre File Backup

Are these files worth adding to the archive at startup process aswell ??

Ed.

Peter Godbold wrote:
> 
> Thanks John and Kris!  I have added these to my Unimaint Supplemental
> Backup.
> 
> Peter
> 
> John Angelico wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 03:20:06 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kris and Peter
> >
> > >
> > >Peter Godbold schreef:
> > >
> > >> Can you or someone else advise on the best (or any??) way of restoring
> > >> the Warpcentre?  Where does all of that data live?
> > >>
> > >
> > >Backup!
> > >
> > >Just backup the dock* files in the \os2\dll directory.
> >
> > These are the files you need to backup:
> > c:\os2\dll\scenter.cfg
> > c:\os2\dll\dock*.cfg
> >
> > (My OS2 drive is c: of course)
> >
> > Best regards
> > John Angelico
> > OS/2 SIG
> > talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
> > PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
> > ... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!"
> >

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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 20:17:08 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] is ADSL the way to go ?

Daryl will probably answer this one, but IMO ADSL
technology is still "flakey" - not reliable. Probably
OK for Home use (a big improvement over POTS 
Dial-UP) but I wouldn't use it for Business - ISDN
gives a reliable 1 to 1 link ADSL is shared at some
point.

Never heard of Connexus as an ISP.

There are very definate restrictions the imfamous 
"acceptable use policies" set up by the suppliers
as to what you are allowed to use the link for.
Telstra are the most restrictive.

Look out for delays. Telstra are the primary operator
and as such will "probably" perform installs for their
customers before customers of other companies.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> 
> we're currently on Telstra ETSI ISDN BRI;
> 
> I've just got a flyer form Connexus offering ADSL for a 1/4 what we pay
> Telstra for ISDN, and, 4 times the bandwith;
> 
> is ADSL the way to go ?
> 
> what the downside ?
> 
> any issues with hosting services on ADSL ?
> 
> any Oz ADSL stories ?
> 
> are Connexus OK ?
> 
> what else to watch out for...?
> 
> Voytek Eymont
> SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
> http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
> phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118

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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 20:20:31 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] is ADSL the way to go ?

Hi Brad,
  Did you say Optus only gives you 128k on the uplink ?

  Telstra/Foxtels unlimited bandwidth option is supposed
 to be in both directions. The maximum I've achieved is
 "only" 2MB/s that only once so far (the speed restrictions
 are often "further down the line")

 Cheers/2

ED.

"VanEps, Brad" wrote:
> 
> G'day,
> 
> If you can get it, I highly recommend OptusatHome cable
> (http://www.optushome dot com dot au/) which is available in areas on Sydney,
> Melbourne and Brisbane.  It's faster (I get ~3Mbit/sec download, 128Kbit/sec
> upload) and cheaper than ADSL, and from broadband news reports
> (http://whirlpool dot net dot au/), seems more reliable as well.
