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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:34:39 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ADSL

Well guys  ADSL has arrived in Adelaide!!  One occasionally feels that we are 'in 
the bush" - dont blame me I voted for the opposition!


 so educate me on how to setup OS2 to run  telstra Bigpond ASDL .

if I had  ADSL at work and at home, could I communicate as well with WAN more 
quickly  ie PPP type set up?


Graham Norton
President
OS2 Users Group SA

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From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:14:48 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ADSL

We opted to buy the external modem with rj45 socket. The network 
cable then just plugs into the modem and you set your gateway 
(default route) to ip of the modem and put in your nameservers. We 
turned dhcp off and manually configured so I knew what was going 
on. Be sure to firewall.
To run our internal lan through the adsl modem I stuck a dual nic 
linux box between the lan and modem to firewall web serve and 
masquerade the internal network as a single internet IP.
Prior to the linux box I was using Internet Gate, a masquerading 
gateway on os2 dialup but the linux solution is free, easy to 
administer and stands in the corner and does its thing like a 
brick.

steve

On Thu, 31 May 2001 11:34:39 +1100 (EDT), Dr Graham Norton FRACP 
Neurologist wrote:

>Well guys  ADSL has arrived in Adelaide!!  One occasionally feels 
that we are 'in 
>the bush" - dont blame me I voted for the opposition!
>
>
> so educate me on how to setup OS2 to run  telstra Bigpond ASDL .
>
>if I had  ADSL at work and at home, could I communicate as well 
with WAN more 
>quickly  ie PPP type set up?
>
>
>Graham Norton
>President
>OS2 Users Group SA

_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

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From: mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:26:38 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ADSL

In <200105310207.f4V27j895554atpluto.senet dot com dot au>, on 05/31/01 
   at 11:34 AM, "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist"
<gnatsmart-road dot com dot au> said:

>Well guys  ADSL has arrived in Adelaide!!  One occasionally feels that we
>are 'in  the bush" - dont blame me I voted for the opposition!

Gee and here I was thinking my primary school teachers must have been
wrong when they said Adelaide was the capital of South Australia! :-)

Here in Mackay, were I live isn't even on Telstra's 'big spreadsheet' (the
Telstra guys words) for rollout in the next 6 months. It appears that the
exchange which services our suburb has missed out on the digital upgrades
required for ADSL. The newer exchanges in Mackay should have it by next
month though.

Mark

a thousand clicks from living in a capital

>Graham Norton
>President
>OS2 Users Group SA

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mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au
Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 02:26 PM
-----------
"Lord, Grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies
of the people I had to kill because they pissed me off." -----------
Mark Farnham
Mackay, Queensland, Australia.
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:45:20 +1000
From: Peter <pedrosatsub dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] ONLY 20 operating systems?

G'day all...


Would anybody like to help this person?

 http://www dot computing dot net/os2/wwwboard/forum/774.html


Cheers
Peter

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Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:08:30 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ADSL

Hi Graham,

Firstly, don't get Telstra Bigpond ADSL.
Get Internode's offering:
http://adsl.internode.on dot net

Telstra's Bigpond ADSL uses PPPoE which is a PITA.
Whilst my link is pretty reliable now, there is a problem with LAN
Server with PPPoE on the same box that still needs to be resolved. I'm
really getting a bit sick of having to fix problems with PPPoE, when
straight ethernet would solve all my problems.

Using Internode's offering you'll just need:
1)
InJoy Firewall Professional

2)
Alcatel SpeedTouch Home ADSL to Ethernet modem
or
D-Link DSL-300 ADSL to Ethernet Modem

Internode is run by Smart People who are into Standards compliance, (OK,
they hate Windows...).
I can configure there setup faster than you can say Linux...

Yes it would be faster!

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> Well guys  ADSL has arrived in Adelaide!!  One occasionally feels that we are 'in
> the bush" - dont blame me I voted for the opposition!
> 
>  so educate me on how to setup OS2 to run  telstra Bigpond ASDL .
> 
> if I had  ADSL at work and at home, could I communicate as well with WAN more
> quickly  ie PPP type set up?
> 
> Graham Norton
> President
> OS2 Users Group SA
> 
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

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From: "Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:34:09 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ADSL

Graham,
Injoy Firewall or PPPoE is what you need to connect to Telstra ADSL.  Injoy Firewall will 
allow you to set up a Virtual Private Network if you run it at home and at the office.  I think 
that Injoy Dialer and 1 x ADSL node would work too.

Note that as your practise in in Modbury, cable is available in some parts of that area 
too (I'm at Greenwith).  Cable is a lower cost/month than ADSL for the same speed.  
Depending where you live, cable may be a better option for home.  ADSL is probably 
the only option in the office as I'm not sure if they'd install cable in an office suite.

You can check if cable is available at www.bigpond dot com/broadband/

Regards,

Paul.

On Thu, 31 May 2001 11:34:39 +1100, Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:

>Well guys  ADSL has arrived in Adelaide!!  One occasionally feels that we are 'in 
>the bush" - dont blame me I voted for the opposition!
>
>
> so educate me on how to setup OS2 to run  telstra Bigpond ASDL .
>
>if I had  ADSL at work and at home, could I communicate as well with WAN more 
>quickly  ie PPP type set up?
>
>
>Graham Norton
>President
>OS2 Users Group SA

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Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:30:31 +0000
From: Frank Bendon <frankbenata011.aone dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ADSL

On Thu, 31 May 2001 11:34:39 +1100 (EDT), Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:

Graham
I have just put internodes's ADSL service on - real nice so far - from what I gather
their setup procedures are much simpler - no PPPoE or anything messy like that. 
They will also supply an oprional  'firewall box' which does away with having to
have the machine doing that job on all the time
 

Cheers
Frank Bendon


>Well guys  ADSL has arrived in Adelaide!!  One occasionally feels that we are 'in 
>the bush" - dont blame me I voted for the opposition!
>
>
> so educate me on how to setup OS2 to run  telstra Bigpond ASDL .
>
>if I had  ADSL at work and at home, could I communicate as well with WAN more 
>quickly  ie PPP type set up?
>
>
>Graham Norton
>President
>OS2 Users Group SA

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Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:46:13 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ADSL

Graham,
  I echo Paul's comments - if you can go cable rather than ADSL
it gives better performance at a lower price. I've seen both
working (Daryl has ADSL, I have Telstra cable) and we both 
agree who's got the better deal. Apparently if you can get
OPTUS cable rather than FOXTEL it gives even better
performance (although you have to look out for their
"acceptable use policy").

   There's been several comparisons recently in the press, in fact
there's a pretty good one in this month's Atomic "maximum 
power computing" mag (ISSN # 1444-8998 if you can't find it in
the newsagents).

   I think you said in an off-list email to me that you already
have ADSL, in which case this discussion is a moot point.

Cheers/2
Ed. 

Paul Smedley wrote:
> 
> Graham,
> Injoy Firewall or PPPoE is what you need to connect to Telstra ADSL.  Injoy Firewall will
> allow you to set up a Virtual Private Network if you run it at home and at the office.  I think
> that Injoy Dialer and 1 x ADSL node would work too.
> 
> Note that as your practise in in Modbury, cable is available in some parts of that area
> too (I'm at Greenwith).  Cable is a lower cost/month than ADSL for the same speed.
> Depending where you live, cable may be a better option for home.  ADSL is probably
> the only option in the office as I'm not sure if they'd install cable in an office suite.
> 
> You can check if cable is available at www.bigpond dot com/broadband/
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> On Thu, 31 May 2001 11:34:39 +1100, Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> >Well guys  ADSL has arrived in Adelaide!!  One occasionally feels that we are 'in
> >the bush" - dont blame me I voted for the opposition!
> >
> >
> > so educate me on how to setup OS2 to run  telstra Bigpond ASDL .
> >
> >if I had  ADSL at work and at home, could I communicate as well with WAN more
> >quickly  ie PPP type set up?
> >
> >
> >Graham Norton
> >President
> >OS2 Users Group SA

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From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisgatwarpspeed dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:15:46 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Next Meeting

When is the next Melb meeting?
And, for anyone else who knows, when is the next Melb Java users group
meeting?

-Chris

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