Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Subject:   No. 36

Date:- 20 April 2001

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From: tsqatchariot dot net dot au
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:02:13 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Email/News clients

On 04/19/01 at 02:02 AM, Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com> said:

Hi Daryl,

An alternative with some possibilities is MR2 ICE 
by Nick Knight. It's still being developed and he's
working on an evil version and it's fast !

www.nick.secant dot com

I can only judge it by the old version I'm using.

->I need an email & off-line news reader that:

->pull simultaneously from multiple POP accounts.

->Reply with different personalities, (email address, footer etc).

I don't think it's not brilliant at multiple accounts, having looked at
that one for ages, but it is brilliant at filtering.

->Template facilities.

Very good templates and scripting in templates.

->Has download recovery if the link hiccups.

I think it will restart downloads.

->Has a C, REXX, or the like, programming interface. (I want to automate
->TAX INVOICE emailing).

->Hooks into ODBC, DB2 or some grunt backend I'd run locally like an IMAP
->or LDAP server.

->Can archive mail/news, if it hooked into DB2 that would be sexy :)

All of the above I think could be achieved with Rexx which MR2 uses
extensively. It uses zip by default to archive.

It has a newsreader that could be better.

Good Luck
Glenn.
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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:13:56 +0900 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Multiple-Fwd: eCS NewsCast: Linux Today talks about eComStation, et al.

Here's today's NewsCast.

I have subsccribed to the OS2Voice original, now waiting to see when it will commence.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
____________________________________________


==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGES=================
>

Linux Today talks about eComStation"...The name suggests that eComStation is designed to run Web sites or something like that, but it's 
actually a really good LAN operating system. It comes with Lotus SmartSuite (1.5 in the beta; 1.6 in the release version due in the next 
month or so), StarOffice 5.1 for OS/2, Netscape 4.61 for OS/2 (the release version will have Warpzilla, a Mozilla port apparently done by 
IBM; the version I downloaded yesterday works very well), and a world of network administration stuff, as well as VoiceType, the speech 
recognition system. Technically exciting are the addition of IBM's Journaling File System and a Logical Volume Manager. It's an interesting 
update, and if you have an OS/2 license it is a lot cheaper than the sum of its parts at $139 from Indelible Blue." 

"But what really appealed to me is a program called "Wise Machine," published by an outfit called TouchVoice Corp. This program is not so 
attractive for what it does (it's beta-ness is evident) but what it suggests. It is, based on what I could figure out about it in that it is utterly 
undocumented best I can tell, a kind of supreme package manager. Unlike the Wise and UnWise stuff found in Windows, which appears on 
an application-by-application basis, this thing is installed once and handles tasks for all the apps on the machine. Use it to install your 
applications and it will keep track of what it has done. This makes keeping an accurate inventory easy. It also eases removal of 
applications. And moving an application from one place to another is a drag-and-drop operation with this application. (This is what I've 
gathered from playing with it a little; again, the documentation isn't there.)" 

"What struck me is that this is exactly the kind of thing that Linux very much needs." 

To read more click on the link below:

http://linuxtoday dot com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-04-18-003-20-OP-SW
Submitted by: Craig Miller

[You won't actually see much more at that URL]

>

new Z! VIO MP3 Player 

There is a new version of Z!, the textmode MP3 player, available. Changes since the version released 03/28/2001 taken from the Z! 
hompage:

- whats new?! 
-------------- 

[april 18, 2001]
fixed a few minor buglets
released new version!

[april 16, 2001]
playing files and then going back into the tagger w/tab and tagging/untagging files that were already in the playlist would cause problems


http://dink dot org/z/download.htm
Submitted by: Roland Toegel


===================END FORWARDED MESSAGES==================

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:45:37 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Multiple-Fwd: eCS NewsCast: Linux Today talks about eComStation, et al.

Hi John

>Here's today's NewsCast.

I think most people know about the voice & eCS lists, wouldnt it be
easier for people to subscribe to these services, than to repeat the
posts on this list :-)

http://www.ecomstation dot com/
http://www.os2voice dot org/mailinglists.html

Just thinking of the amount of duplication.

Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "List Admin" <deadmail>
Date: Thur, 19 Apr 2001 03:33:33 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - OS/2UGSA Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

The OS/2 Users Group of South Australia Meeting

Date:  Tuesday, April 24, 2001 
Time:  7:30PM - 9:30PM GST (GMT+10:00) 
Place: ARPA, 84 Archer St, North Adelaide

The Monthly Meeting of The OS/2 Users Group of South Australia.

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From: "List Admin" <deadmail>
Date: Thur, 19 Apr 2001 03:33:33 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting 

Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 
Time: 6:30PM - 9:30PM GST (GMT+10:00) 

The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG 

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:20:55 +0900 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Multiple-Fwd: eCS NewsCast: Linux Today talks about eComStation, et al.

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:45:37 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi John
>
>>Here's today's NewsCast.
>
>I think most people know about the voice & eCS lists, wouldnt it be
>easier for people to subscribe to these services, than to repeat the
>posts on this list :-)
>
>http://www.ecomstation dot com/
>http://www.os2voice dot org/mailinglists.html
>
>Just thinking of the amount of duplication.
>

Hopefully I have (but I may be wrong...<g>)

The idea is that one sub to the Voice News feed followed by our local replication should reduce the total traffic. I haven't figured yet how to 
subscribe the list name itself, so that everyone gets it without having to individually subscribe, but that's the theory.

To all others on the list:

How many already subscribe to Voice NewsCast?

How many would stop their own subs to VoiceNews if we did this through the list?

How many would prefer one email a day (from the list) instead  of the individual ones?

How many would NOT want VoiceNews via the list?

....does that cover all the possibilities? <Sigh - it's so hard devising useful surveys... maybe that's why 47.3% of all statistics are made up 
on the spot :) >


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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From: Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Multiple-Fwd: eCS NewsCast: Linux Today talks about eComStation, et al.
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:35:25 +1000

	I think it's probably better that people retain their individual
subscriptions to the voice and particularly EcS lists.

	This may not be the most convienient solution, but the
administrators of these lists may start to worry if their "community" starts
shrinking!
	[Trevor Clarke]  
> Hopefully I have (but I may be wrong...<g>)
> 
> The idea is that one sub to the Voice News feed followed by our local
> replication should reduce the total traffic. I haven't figured yet how to 
> subscribe the list name itself, so that everyone gets it without having to
> individually subscribe, but that's the theory.
> 
> To all others on the list:
> 
> How many already subscribe to Voice NewsCast?
> 
> How many would stop their own subs to VoiceNews if we did this through the
> list?
> 
> How many would prefer one email a day (from the list) instead  of the
> individual ones?
> 
> How many would NOT want VoiceNews via the list?
> 
> ...does that cover all the possibilities? <Sigh - it's so hard devising
> useful surveys... maybe that's why 47.3% of all statistics are made up 
> on the spot :) >
> 
> 
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG
> talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:24:09 +1000
From: Michael Peters <mpetersatnetspace dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Zampa - anyone use it?

I am on a home setup of two networked boxes. Box1 is the main one,
runs OS/2 and is linked to the internet via a 56k modem. Box 2  is a
win box and is networked to box 1. I have no web pages etc. Do I need
a firewall ( I read that all sorts of things can be wrecked in the win
box
without one) and if so why not Zampa - the gui name for the firewall
included in TCPIP 4.1 + ? Could some kindly soul tell me how to set
the rules , viz. what do I let into the OS/2 box, what do I filter out
of
the windows box. Is there a simple how-to anywhere?

Many thanks,

Mike Peters

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:10:39 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Fwd: eCS NewsCast: New home for Focus on OS/2 articles

> ...... will be added to the Focus on OS/2 articles which I have already started uploading to my personal web site.
>
> I've tentatively named this library, "Walter's OS/2 Treasury".  I'll publish the URL for my personal web site copy after I've cleaned it
> up a bit more and created a front page for my articles.)

This is great news - his stuff has often been helpful.
--
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:37:42 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Old Warps

Craig Brookes wrote:

> Speaking about older versions of warp... If anyone in Perth want's a copy
> of OS/2 2.0 or a copy of MS OS/2 1.0

Thanks for that info Craig. It pays to have business contacts in Perth. I now have that
copy of MS OS/2. It is v1.1c put out by Nokia in 1989.

It certainly is from the "good old days" of cloth-covered heavy cardboard ring binders with
looseleaf manuals which insert into similarly bound covers. There are 8 3½ disks with the
whole OS being 9Mb. It must have been a striking jump from the DOS command line. Pity it
didn't catch on.

I hope to install it on a DOS/win3.1 partition on my test box in a Dual Boot setup. It
comes with a separate disk for the Dual Boot. I hope it doesn't choke on the hardware
seeing it was designed for the 32Mb HDD/2.5Mb RAM on a 286/386. My test box has
1Gb/64Mb/PR200+.

Ah! The nostalgia of it all.

Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:43:49 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Multiple-Fwd: eCS NewsCast: Linux Today talks about 

John Angelico wrote:

> How many already subscribe to Voice NewsCast?

Me

> How many would stop their own subs to VoiceNews if we did this through the list?

Probably, I wouldn't want to see it twice.

> How many would prefer one email a day (from the list) instead  of the individual ones?

It doesn't bother me, there aren't that many and they go into a separate folder in my NS Messeger setup (which suits me fine as I have no heavy
duty needs).

> How many would NOT want VoiceNews via the list?

If you can get it to work - great. If not - no great loss.
--
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:23:41 +1000
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Voice/eCSCast List

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:24:38 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi John
>
>>>http://www.ecomstation dot com/
>>>http://www.os2voice dot org/mailinglists.html


Hi Ian, John and All,

I also subscribe to various of the lists and DO _NOT_
want these same lists being duplicated here as well.

There is already too many emails to filter and file away
for later viewing.

Surely we can bring to the attention of the members
of this list, the availability of other lists and
alternate sources of information (which Ian has in fact done).

And those that want to can signup if they wish.

Just MY 2 cents worth.


Thanks,
BobT.

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 


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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:37:17 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Zampa - anyone use it?

If you are using In-Joy as your dialer, it comes with NAT (aka IP
masqurading)
which effectively "hides" your PCs be they Win or OS/2 or Mac or Linux,
from
anyone try to get to them from the Internet. Any reputable ISP also has
a 
Firewall, so a second firewall on your own PC may be overkill.

Ed Durrant.  

Michael Peters wrote:
> 
> I am on a home setup of two networked boxes. Box1 is the main one,
> runs OS/2 and is linked to the internet via a 56k modem. Box 2  is a
> win box and is networked to box 1. I have no web pages etc. Do I need
> a firewall ( I read that all sorts of things can be wrecked in the win
> box
> without one) and if so why not Zampa - the gui name for the firewall
> included in TCPIP 4.1 + ? Could some kindly soul tell me how to set
> the rules , viz. what do I let into the OS/2 box, what do I filter out
> of
> the windows box. Is there a simple how-to anywhere?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Mike Peters
 
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:40:39 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Voice/eCSCast List

I would prefer to control what I receive and hence I would personally
subscribe or un-subscribe from lists as I feel appropriate. Auto loading
all output from Voice and ecS straight into os2genau. is not
a good idea in my opinion, or did I misunderstand what was being propsed 
by Ian ?

Ed.

Ian Manners wrote:
> 
> Hi John
> 
> >>http://www.ecomstation dot com/
> >>http://www.os2voice dot org/mailinglists.html
> 
> >The idea is that one sub to the Voice News feed
> >followed by our local replication should reduce the
> >total traffic. I haven't figured yet how to subscribe
> >the list name itself, so that everyone gets it without
> >having to individually subscribe, but that's the theory.
> 
> I can set that up easily, so that if anyone wants to
> get these news items, that can subscribe to a new
> list on os2 dot org dot au, for example, called
> "newsatos2 dot org dot au"
> 
> I could do it via os2site dot com but it makes more sense to
> keep all email stuff together on one list server.
> 
> I then subscribe newsadmin to the eCSCast list, as
> this includes all the voice stuff as well, and as the news
> comes in from this list, it is immediately sent out. No one
> else will be able to post to this list ! It would take me about
> 10 minutes to set it up and test it, so I'll do it tonight anyway.
> 
> The eCS list has had some minor hickups laterly but
> I assume this will be fixed, two duds out of 64 not to
> bad though.
> 
> >How many already subscribe to Voice NewsCast?
> 
> Me :-)
> 
> >How many would stop their own subs to VoiceNews if we did this through the list?
> 
> Me. (really so that I knew if it stopped working)
> 
> >How many would prefer one email a day (from the list) instead  of the individual ones?
> 
> Not me.
> 
> >How many would NOT want VoiceNews via the list?
> 
> Me.
> 
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners
 
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:46:07 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Old Warps

Hmm, I never knew Nokia OEM-ed OS/2 !  I don't think I've ever seen
a Nokia PC. Is it in Finnish ?? (Nokia is bsed out of Helsinki). I'm
also
surprised it's on 3.5" diskettes - I wonder what capacity, and if your
drive can read them (could be 160k diskettes). All OS/2 1.1 packs I have
seen came on 5.25" diskettes.

Ed. 

Leigh Bunting wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for that info Craig. It pays to have business contacts in Perth. I now have that
> copy of MS OS/2. It is v1.1c put out by Nokia in 1989.
>

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:15:49 +1000
From: Don McKenzie <dimckatattglobal dot net>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Old Warps

Hi Ed,

Basically all PS/2 models came with 3.5" drives.

A 5.25' drive cost some $1100 extra for reading DSDD diskettes.

Regards

    Don

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Hmm, I never knew Nokia OEM-ed OS/2 !  I don't think I've ever seen
> a Nokia PC. Is it in Finnish ?? (Nokia is bsed out of Helsinki). I'm
> also
> surprised it's on 3.5" diskettes - I wonder what capacity, and if your
> drive can read them (could be 160k diskettes). All OS/2 1.1 packs I have
> seen came on 5.25" diskettes.
>
> Ed.
>
> Leigh Bunting wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for that info Craig. It pays to have business contacts in Perth. I now have that
> > copy of MS OS/2. It is v1.1c put out by Nokia in 1989.
> >

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From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:16:34 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Multiple-Fwd: eCS NewsCast: Linux Today talks about eComStation, et al.

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:20:55 +0900 (EST), John Angelico wrote:

>How many already subscribe to Voice NewsCast?

Me

>
>How many would stop their own subs to VoiceNews if we did this through the list?

Not me

>
>How many would prefer one email a day (from the list) instead  of the individual ones?

Not me.

>
>How many would NOT want VoiceNews via the list?

Me
--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:29:11 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Old Warps

Yes I know this Don, but the Microsoft OS/2 1.1 in OEM form was meant
for non-IBM PS/2 PCs and hence I'm pretty sure came on 360k 5.25"
(not even 1.2 MB) diskettes, but hey, I could be wrong it's some time
ago!

Ed. 

Don McKenzie wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> Basically all PS/2 models came with 3.5" drives.
> 
> A 5.25' drive cost some $1100 extra for reading DSDD diskettes.
> 
> Regards
> 
>     Don

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:47:53 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Zampa - anyone use it?

Hi Ed

>Any reputable ISP also has a Firewall, so a second firewall on
>your own PC may be overkill.

Hate to tell you this Ed, no ISP uses a firewall :-)

It slows throughput down, adds another layer of routing,
and stops legitimate use of services. They may do as I do,
use a firewall for internal services, or for customers that
have asked for it, I also charge for the service.

ISP's do however use firewalls on there server farms
where they can say that all the user does need is
FTP, HTTP, and HTTPS, eliminating excess network
usage by filtering everything else out.

You will also notice that some of my hosted sites dont
even allow ICMP, which means no PING, no TRACRTE
etc, also stops denial of service attacks.

ie, http://www. & http://www.childrensplaygroup dot com

http://www.os2site dot com & http://www.ecs-site dot com are the
only internal sites that allow ICMP, as some of the programming
for links, and automated filepile updates requires utilities
that need ICMP


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:57:41 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Voice/eCSCast List

Hi Ed

>I would prefer to control what I receive and hence I would personally
>subscribe or un-subscribe from lists as I feel appropriate. Auto loading
>all output from Voice and ecS straight into os2genau. is not
>a good idea in my opinion, or did I misunderstand what was being propsed 
>by Ian ?

Not os2genau but onto a different list, newsatos2 dot org dot au, though
it doesnt save much in throughput, personally I think its easier
to just subscribe to the one list.

I also keep archives of the voice list at

http://www.os2site dot com/sw/magazine/voicenews/

Its also on my todo list to one day have the subject listed
in the description field, at present, if you want info on a
particular item, its easier to use the site search engine.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:59:00 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Zampa - anyone use it?

Hi Michael

I keep meaning to install Zampa to learn more about the
IBM TCP/IP v4.3 firewall rules but keep getting sidetracked.

Hopefully we will both learn some more about this.

I do know you can get a start by looking at the IBM RedBook
on the AIX v4.3.3 Firewall, it uses the same rules and format.

This is a start though.

http://www.os2.spb.ru/guru/tcpip/ipsece.html

The URL I had for the AIX Firewall nolonger works, I should
have it on CDROM here with the AIX doc's, I'f I find it, I'll put
it on the website for you.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:11:58 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Voice/eCSCast List

Hi all

The exchanges between Chris Graham and others on the ISP
list about Chris's news list has convinced me, I wont even setup
another news list, I think we should stick to either the voice list,
or the eCS list.

Chris didnt know about the Voice list either, it also looks
like we will have a major publicity drive for the voice list
to make sure that everyone knows about it.

One point of news, no double messages etc.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:44:00 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Old Warps

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Hmm, I never knew Nokia OEM-ed OS/2 !  I don't think I've ever seen
> a Nokia PC. Is it in Finnish ??

All english!!

> surprised it's on 3.5" diskettes - I wonder what capacity

My PC says they are 1.44Mb

The label on the sliding cover says:

Nokia Data
MF-2HD
Part No. KDY 203 30
Double Sided
High Density
Soft sectored
135TPI
2.0Mb unformatted

The disk label says:

Microsoft Operating System/2

DISK 2
Version: 1.1C
ASRC00685E

Disk 3/7
89-11-15

This is from the days when these size disks were probably $10 a copy
--
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:41:21 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting

Sorry, shouldn't that be 10% GST?
ROFL

OK, try:
18:30-21:30 AEST, (UTC+10:00)

12 hour clocks are for people who can't to 24, <grin>.

List Admin wrote:
> 
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
> 
> Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting
> 
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001
> Time: 6:30PM - 9:30PM GST (GMT+10:00)
> 
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:44:24 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Reminder - OS/2UGSA Meeting

Likewise,
try:
19:30-21:30 ACST (UTC+9:30)

Remember, GMT is obsolete.

List Admin wrote:
> 
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
> 
> The OS/2 Users Group of South Australia Meeting
> 
> Date:  Tuesday, April 24, 2001
> Time:  7:30PM - 9:30PM GST (GMT+10:00)
> Place: ARPA, 84 Archer St, North Adelaide
> 
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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:49:48 +0900 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] OS/2 Melbourne PC SIG Meeting 24th April

We note sadly the recent passing of that largest of Goons, approximating the dimensions of Wales (rather than sardines) Harry Secombe, 
after a life spent well in seeing that others obtained as much enjoyment from life as he did.

In distinct contrast to the passing of Neddy Seagoon, the extremely lively Melbourne OS/2 SIG will meet next Tuesday evening April 24th, 
commencing at 6:30pm in the Large SIG Room of the Melbourne PC at the club rooms 27 Wells Street South Melbourne.

6:30pm Open Forum: News, Views and Interesting Happenings
7:00pm Discussion OS2Voice NewsCast - on the list or not?
7:15pm Planning for Hardware Day Saturday April 28th 10am-5pm

7:30pm Guest Presentation by Antony Shepherd: Lotus Notes on OS/2

Antony is a member of the SIG who works as an independent consultant specialising in Notes applications for corporate clients. He is an avid 
fan of, and evangelist for, Lotus Notes on the OS/2 platform, and he will demonstrate how much can be done with that Lotus Notes Client 
CD which came FREE with the Warp 4 CDs.

Coffee: on tap
Pizza: to follow the close of the meeting at 8:30pm. 

NB: Earlier finish time based upon expected weather patterns

[Minnie Bannister:] Did you hear that, Henery - "expected weather patterns" he said. It sounded very important. We must make a note of 
that, mustn't we?
[Henry Crun:]  But it's impossible, Min, you can't get the wood, you know.
[Min:] Well, I told you that wooden Windows wouldn't work, Henery. You have to use your OS/2 laptop and Lotus Notes! 
[Henry:] Yes, yes, Min. Windows made of anything doesn't work. Oh dear, now I can't find the icon Min. It's perfectly obvious that we shall 
have to spend Mr Seagoon's threepence and go to that SIG meeting next week. 
[Fade, muttering to each other] 
[Henry:] We must arrive early to get a good seat in the front row... 
[Min:] I wonder if that bankrupt young fellow Gates will be there? He might learn a thing or too as well...
[Henry:] Yes, his wife is quite pretty, isn't she?
[Min (jealous):] You rotten swine Henery! How do you know that?
....

 
Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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