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From: mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:47:25 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] St George Bank locks users out of Internet banking

Evenin' all,
                Can't recall if anyone else use the Commonwealth bank so
I'll just mention that I haven't had any problems since the fired up their
http version (after their woeful proprietary dial in version) And thats
even without me changing the user_pref in pref.js (mainly because I can't
remember what it is I have to change or add :-)).

        Personally I've found the Commonwealth to be at the forefront of
most the banking with technology developments in this country over the
last 20 years. And on a nostalgia kick, who remembers school banking, with
the Commonwealth teller and his franking machine. One wonders how many
life  long customers that produced for them.

Mark

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mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au
Saturday, May 19, 2001 - 11:47 PM
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"Lord, Grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies
of the people I had to kill because they pissed me off." -----------
Mark Farnham
Mackay, Queensland, Australia.
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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:18:36 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Status Update:

   Supplied adaptec SCSI card working using AIC-7800 family drivers.
The operating system can see the card and the card can see the 
external canon scanner.

   When I run find-scanner.exe, it finds the scanner and produces
the configuration code required by scanimage.exe. Unfortunately
when I run scanimage my PC traps with either a trap 000D or 000C.

   However it does this whether or not I specify the canon scanner,
so this is apparently a problem with scanimage.exe on my PC. 
Perhaps a conflict with FP15 as previously (when my system was at
FP14) it didn't trap.

   I'm going to download the SANE/2 package again and try again.

Ed Durrant

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:42:38 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Hi Ed

>   When I run find-scanner.exe, it finds the scanner and produces
>the configuration code required by scanimage.exe. Unfortunately
>when I run scanimage my PC traps with either a trap 000D or 000C.

Do you have the following in your config.sys

BASEDEV=AIC7870.ADD  <== or your driver
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD <= sometimes needed, or not

BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
or
BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /SHARE

rem Your scan package driver
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\SCANOS2.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\TWAIN\CFM512\CFMASPI.SYS

And remember to put them after your IDE drivers
if you have a IDE based system


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:48:18 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Ed Durrant schreef:

> Status Update:
>
>    Supplied adaptec SCSI card working using AIC-7800 family drivers.
>

Which driver exactly? Names please, something like that:

 9-02-98 11:39         40.846      0 a---  AIC7870.ADD

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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From: "Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:55:19 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Ed,
Some other notes:
http://www.mostang dot com/sane/sane-backends.html doesn't list the Canon FB620S as 
being supported in Sane 1.0.4

http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~mpd/sane/sane-canon.html has patches to the Canon 
backend to support the FB620S available for download, but these would need to be 
compiled for OS/2.

Regards,

Paul.

On Sun, 20 May 2001 16:18:36 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>
>Status Update:
>
>   Supplied adaptec SCSI card working using AIC-7800 family drivers.
>The operating system can see the card and the card can see the 
>external canon scanner.
>
>   When I run find-scanner.exe, it finds the scanner and produces
>the configuration code required by scanimage.exe. Unfortunately
>when I run scanimage my PC traps with either a trap 000D or 000C.
>
>   However it does this whether or not I specify the canon scanner,
>so this is apparently a problem with scanimage.exe on my PC. 
>Perhaps a conflict with FP15 as previously (when my system was at
>FP14) it didn't trap.
>
>   I'm going to download the SANE/2 package again and try again.
>
>Ed Durrant

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:07:13 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Thanks for the suggestions Ian. The software I am trying to use is
SANE/2
It talks to the spi driver and then to the SCSI port. There are no
additional
drivers to load. Its a port of the *nix SANE product using EMX
libraries.

Just running the program traps the PC, whereas it didn't used to, so I 
suspect an installation problem or something else that has changed.

It doesn't even know to look at the SCSI card at this point (I think).

Thanks again

Ed.
 

Ian Manners wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed
> 
> >   When I run find-scanner.exe, it finds the scanner and produces
> >the configuration code required by scanimage.exe. Unfortunately
> >when I run scanimage my PC traps with either a trap 000D or 000C.
> 
> Do you have the following in your config.sys
> 
> BASEDEV=AIC7870.ADD  <== or your driver
> BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD <= sometimes needed, or not
> 
> BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
> or
> BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /SHARE
> 
> rem Your scan package driver
> REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\SCANOS2.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\TWAIN\CFM512\CFMASPI.SYS
> 
> And remember to put them after your IDE drivers
> if you have a IDE based system
> 
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners
 
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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:09:21 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

The SCSI driver (IBM Adaptec 7800 family driver) is as follows:

4-08-99   7:37p    134280           0  AIC7870.ADD

I can try the one that came with Warp as an alternative....

Ed.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> Ed Durrant schreef:
> 
> > Status Update:
> >
> >    Supplied adaptec SCSI card working using AIC-7800 family drivers.
> >
> 
> Which driver exactly? Names please, something like that:
> 
>  9-02-98 11:39         40.846      0 a---  AIC7870.ADD
> 
> --
> Groeten uit Gent,
> 
>    Kris

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:17:53 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ct: Re: [sane-os2] Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

I see what you mean Paul. Perhaps you'd better wait on buying this
scanner but
at AUS$99 it's really a bargain !  In fact it's the ONLY SCSI scanner
I've been able
to find. I wonder if, it's not supported under SANE/2, perhaps CFM or
some
other OS/2 scanning software supports it ?? 

Ed

Paul Smedley wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> Some other notes:
> http://www.mostang dot com/sane/sane-backends.html doesn't list the Canon FB620S as
> being supported in Sane 1.0.4
> 
> http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~mpd/sane/sane-canon.html has patches to the Canon
> backend to support the FB620S available for download, but these would need to be
> compiled for OS/2.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> On Sun, 20 May 2001 16:18:36 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >
> >Status Update:
> >
> >   Supplied adaptec SCSI card working using AIC-7800 family drivers.
> >The operating system can see the card and the card can see the
> >external canon scanner.
> >
> >   When I run find-scanner.exe, it finds the scanner and produces
> >the configuration code required by scanimage.exe. Unfortunately
> >when I run scanimage my PC traps with either a trap 000D or 000C.
> >
> >   However it does this whether or not I specify the canon scanner,
> >so this is apparently a problem with scanimage.exe on my PC.
> >Perhaps a conflict with FP15 as previously (when my system was at
> >FP14) it didn't trap.
> >
> >   I'm going to download the SANE/2 package again and try again.
> >
> >Ed Durrant

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:52:45 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

>4-08-99   7:37p    134280           0  AIC7870.ADD
>I can try the one that came with Warp as an alternative....

Dont, the one that came with Warp sucked !

Cheers
Ian B Manners

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:05:11 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Yep - it trap 000d's aswell....Ed

Ian Manners wrote:
> 
> >4-08-99   7:37p    134280           0  AIC7870.ADD
> >I can try the one that came with Warp as an alternative....
> 
> Dont, the one that came with Warp sucked !
> 
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners
 
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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:09:47 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

But running a new copy of sane doesn't trap 000d, so I can
make some progress, but if the scanner isn't supported in
this version, it may be a waste of time !

I'll keep you all informed !

Ed.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> Yep - it trap 000d's aswell....Ed
> 
> Ian Manners wrote:
> >
> > >4-08-99   7:37p    134280           0  AIC7870.ADD
> > >I can try the one that came with Warp as an alternative....
> >
> > Dont, the one that came with Warp sucked !
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ian B Manners

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:10:29 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Hi Ed,
I've had SANE/2 working at FixPak 14 with my HP 4p scanner on 2
different SCSI controllers.
Perhaps we could arrange a weekend to sit-down & isolate exactly where
the problem lies:- scanner, SCSI card, FixPak level.

I'd be very interested to see optically how good this current generation
scanner is compared to my aging HP 4p, which if I had bought it new,
would have cost near $1000!

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> I see what you mean Paul. Perhaps you'd better wait on buying this
> scanner but
> at AUS$99 it's really a bargain !  In fact it's the ONLY SCSI scanner
> I've been able
> to find. I wonder if, it's not supported under SANE/2, perhaps CFM or
> some
> other OS/2 scanning software supports it ??
> 
> Ed
> 
SNIP
>
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

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From: "Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:04:24 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Ed,
If I do go buy the scanner on Wednesday (depends how my promotion salary 
negotiations go on Tuesday), I'll have a bash at compiling Sane with the patches to the 
Canon backend that include the FB620S support.  Presumably these patches will be 
included in a future Sane version anyhow.

I did check out the situation WRT other OS/2 scanning solutions: STI don't seem to 
support any Canon Scanners, CFM Twain supports the FB600S which is presumable 
an earlier version of the 620S and maybe they could be convinced to update the 
drivers?

Regards,

Paul.

On Sun, 20 May 2001 21:09:47 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>But running a new copy of sane doesn't trap 000d, so I can
>make some progress, but if the scanner isn't supported in
>this version, it may be a waste of time !
>
>I'll keep you all informed !
>
>Ed.
>
>Ed Durrant wrote:
>> 
>> Yep - it trap 000d's aswell....Ed
>> 
>> Ian Manners wrote:
>> >
>> > >4-08-99   7:37p    134280           0  AIC7870.ADD
>> > >I can try the one that came with Warp as an alternative....
>> >
>> > Dont, the one that came with Warp sucked !
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Ian B Manners

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:52:19 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

I'm getting closer !!  I can now run scanimage.exe without the PC
trapping !

I'm now trying to find the format that the CONF file has to take - do
you
have this info. The TAME/2 Frontend doco says just put the code you get
from Find-scanner in it, but that gives a command format error.

There is also apparently a default Sane/2 configuration, which works
with
"some" scanners, so I guess that has been compiled into the OS/2 source.
I'm going back the site where I downloaded the code from to try to find 
out more, but I suspect for propper Canon CB620 S support I'll have to
wait
for SANE 1.05 (1.04 is the current version), or I'll have to port it
from the
linux mod. (wouldn't know where to start !).

By the way, I'm sat here working, listening to perfect 32 kbs audio from
a
german music station via Realplayer working through ODIN. Now I've
cleaned
up MMPM2.INI, things run a lot better, including (some) DivX files - now
with
sound !  So all in all OS/2 Multimedia is looking up !!

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> I've had SANE/2 working at FixPak 14 with my HP 4p scanner on 2
> different SCSI controllers.
> Perhaps we could arrange a weekend to sit-down & isolate exactly where
> the problem lies:- scanner, SCSI card, FixPak level.

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:54:02 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

I think there's a restricted CFM demo package isn't there ? I could
download
that and test it with this scanner and see if it works.

Do you have their URL ??

Ed.

Paul Smedley wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> If I do go buy the scanner on Wednesday (depends how my promotion salary
> negotiations go on Tuesday), I'll have a bash at compiling Sane with the patches to the
> Canon backend that include the FB620S support.  Presumably these patches will be
> included in a future Sane version anyhow.
> 
> I did check out the situation WRT other OS/2 scanning solutions: STI don't seem to
> support any Canon Scanners, CFM Twain supports the FB600S which is presumable
> an earlier version of the 620S and maybe they could be convinced to update the
> drivers?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> On Sun, 20 May 2001 21:09:47 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >But running a new copy of sane doesn't trap 000d, so I can
> >make some progress, but if the scanner isn't supported in
> >this version, it may be a waste of time !
> >
> >I'll keep you all informed !
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >Ed Durrant wrote:
> >>
> >> Yep - it trap 000d's aswell....Ed
> >>
> >> Ian Manners wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >4-08-99   7:37p    134280           0  AIC7870.ADD
> >> > >I can try the one that came with Warp as an alternative....
> >> >
> >> > Dont, the one that came with Warp sucked !
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> > Ian B Manners

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:05:31 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Hi Ed

>Do you have their URL ??

http://www.cfm.de/En/eprodukte.htm

This is also what I use with my trusty old HP 4c


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:20:21 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Canon Scanner under OS/2

Thanks, Yes found the site - downloaded the code and have modified
scanner.ini so that it accepts the Canon IX-6035E, which is what this
scanner identifies itself as on the SCSI bus. 

Using the supplied test scanning program (ScanWork) I can set all 
the settings, but when I go to press any of the scan 
buttons they all display an X and nothing happens.

Do you have the full version and a manual that could tell me 
what the X means ?

I'm just trying all the available control parameter files at the 
moment to see if one actualy works ...

Ed.

Ian Manners wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed
> 
> >Do you have their URL ??
> 
> http://www.cfm.de/En/eprodukte.htm
> 
> This is also what I use with my trusty old HP 4c
> 
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners
 
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