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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 186
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:24:14 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] USB Drivers

Some of you will have seen the item below from the Voice newslist:

From: "OS/2 Warp" <os2warpatos2warp dot net>

Full USB drivers for OS/2 (audio, ethernet, mass storage, etc.)

  -> Hobbes: usbfull.zip
  -> FTP-Search: usbfull.zip

http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?key=USBFULL

Sent via OS2 dot org online news formular.



Question - has anyone downloaded the "usbfull.illegal" file that
this points top and if so, what format is it (it's not a zip file).

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:28:40 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] USB answered

A later post on Voice, seems to answer what is going on:

From: "Roderick Klein" <rwkleinatwanadoo.nl>

I'm not going to mention which files.... I have already sent a note to
the
admin of hobbes to erase these files. I just want to make one thing
clear!
Hobbes is a great service for the OS/2 community and we are greatfull
its
there. However hobbes is for freeware and shareware. Not for Software
Choice OS/2 device drivers!  I don't know who uploaded these files
anonymous, but I think the people who upload these drivers knows very
well
what he or she is doing. You bring hobbes in danger by doing this.



So they were only the standard drivers anyway, it seems.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:51:29 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Archive Key files

On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 21:25:28 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Graham,
>Don't look much further than:
>c:\os2\archives\os2.key from eComStation:

Hmm, any way of specifying wildcards in this list eg all *.ini ?


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:13:27 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Computerworld Today AM Edition  Microsoft changes XP slogan in wake of U.S. attacks

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:55:16 +1100, Mailing_Serviceatidg dot com dot au wrote:

>
>Microsoft changes XP slogan in wake of U.S. attacks
>Microsoft Corp. will change the advertising slogan for the Windows XP operating system from "Prepare to Fly" to "Yes You Can" because of the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. that involved hijacked airplanes, the company confirmed Friday.
>http://www dot computerworld dot com dot au/IDG2.NSF/a/000448CE?OpenDocument&n=e&c=CT


Aha!  There would appear to be scope here for contra-advertising
slogans, like:

"Yes You Can - When we say you can!!"

"Yes You Can - but sorry that feature isn't there yet!"

"Yes You Can - have every known virus attack your system..."

"Yes You Can - well we could from here!"

I wonder if the Register will pick up on this one... <Wicked Grin>


Best regards
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OS/2 SIG
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:46:22 +0800
From: Bob <bobatcontact.omen dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ssh on OS/2

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how to setup ssh on OS/2?
> I got the download from hobbes, but the documentation is very hard to
> understand & has huge holes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Daryl  Pilkington

There are a couple of small how-tos floating around online. One that I
found useful is from the April '99 VOICE newsletter. HTH :).

Please not too that the filenames mentioned in this article depend on
which version of ssh you are using... some builds have FAT friendly 8.3
names... so you may have to juggle some mangled filenames.


                     "Installing SSH and SSHD for OS/2"

By: Adrian Gschwend - ktkatnetlabs dot org

                   --------------------------------------
This article describes how to install SSH (Secure Shell) and SSHD for
OS/2,
I wrote it because I had a lot of troubles until it worked. This is
mainly
because I don't know a lot about SSH and also because the OS/2 port (and
the original version) is not very well documented!

SSH is a protocol like Telnet, you can control Servers over the TCP/IP
protocol. The difference to Telnet is, that the connection through SSH
is
secure, it is something like SSL. You can get a copy of the OS/2 version
at
hobbes -
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/telnet/client/sshos203.zip,
and
more information about SSH is available at http://www.ssh dot org and
specifically on SSH for OS/2 at
http://www.snafu.de/~hmstahl/ssh/sshos2.html.

The OS/2 port is free (at least the 1.x versions), V2.0 is commercial.
SSHD is the daemon process which is running on the server side.

First, let's start with the configuration, we need several config files
first. I included several sample files in this package, note that the
Unix-version uses long names, the OS/2 port not.

To run SSHD you need (%\mptn\etc means the directory you get if you
enter
SET ETC on a command line):

     in your %\mptn\etc directory:
     sshhkey => generate with ssh-keyg and point to
     /mptn/etc/sshhkey
     Do *not* enter a password for this file!
     (just hit enter)
     delete the sshhkey.pub-file, you don't need this one

     sshd.cfg => take the file in the package and change if necessary
     passwd => this is the most important auth-file. Take the sample
     and change it for your needs.

     sshrand.bin => will be created after first start
     sshd.pid => will be created after first start

     in your %\home\ssh directory:
     authkeys => take the identity.pub files and copy the complete
     string
     into this file. Use a new line if you want to enter more
     than one user.

To run SSH you need:

     in your %\mptn\etc directory:
     ssh.cfg => take the file in the package and change if necessary

     in your %home\ssh directory:
     identity => generated with ssh-keyg, do *not* give away this
     file!
     identity.pub => generated with ssh-keyg
     copy the content of this file to the authkeys file of
     the server you want to get access
     known.hst => will be generated automatically

Now you should be able to use SSH on your machine. For sure SSH and SSHD
should be in your PATH statement in CONFIG.SYS.

If you run SSHD on OS/2 you have to connect to the machine with:

SSH www.yourdomain dot com CMD.EXE

If you do not use CMD.EXE SSH will do nothing because OS/2 is not
providing
a command line by default. For sure you can also use another command
line
interpreter like 4OS2.

The OS/2 port of SSHD is not very good, this is mainly because OS/2 was
not
designed as a multi user operating system. Until now there is no way to
restrict access to special directories. If you allow to use SSH on your
server, everyone with a valid key will be able to control the *whole*
machine! So don't forget to use SSHD with care!

Also, ANSI-Support is not really working. Try it for example with TEDIT,
you will notice that the output will run in the SSHD window on your
server,
not on your client!! I hope someone will fix this in a future version of
SSHD, but as far as I know this is not very easy.

If you want to use ANSI you better choose the OS/2 Telnet, for sure this
is
not secure like SSH...

Also try the DIR xxx | MORE command, you will see that SSH does not send
the correct strings and if you have to enter a key some programs will
not
work correctly, this can lock your SSH session.

Anyway, I'm happy that we have SSH for OS/2, even if it is not very well
done.

If you have any questions or if you found a fault in this document you
can
contact me, but as I said, I'm not a master :-)

Have fun!

Adrian Gschwend
ktkatnetlabs dot org
http://www dot netlabs dot org

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From: "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:56:40 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Internet Banking

Hi All

For those of you who are NAB Customers, there is light at the end
of the tunnel.

National Australia Banks Internet Banking Trial is working great under
OS/2, eCS, and AIX. The NAB are now using SUN JAVA Tools, this
means that it should also work under any OS that has 'real' JAVA installed
on it.

It also requires NS v4.61, though my testing with both IBM's branded Mozilla
and the latest weekly Mozilla build also works fine for all accounts.

The product is also faster than the Windows only version, and uses full
128bit encryption, if you dont have 128bit encryption enabled, it will not
work.

This product is currently in testing, and should be available in November.
So please dont ask me for any URL's.


Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

B Gates, the worlds greatest salesman, who else has so
many customers coming back for more broken products?

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From: <djnatpeninsula.hotkey dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] eCS Install    (was ...      I'm back
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:54:58 -1000

On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 23:06:00 +1100, Jim Boyle wrote:

>With regard to an unsuccessful  update - it may be caused by something
>fundamentally wrong in the base system, that is creating problems during the
>upgrade.  Have you tried a clean install to a new partition ?
>
They were all clean installs, with the partition getting a ling format 
every time.

>I took the simplistic approach of doing a "clean" eCS installation  -  it all
>WAD  (Worked As Designed) - nary a problem, and the Smart Suite is all up and
>running plus a few other applications like Describe plus many REXX programs, and
>other utilities ex Hobbes etc etc that I've built up over the years.
>
The REXX cmd file to install my video driver would not work.
commands like
"     SPTReboot                  = x2d('FE00',4)
      SPTRebootErr               = x2d('FE08',4)
      SPTWithErr                 = x2d('0008',4)"
all returned errors - these were easy to get past but other functions 
were impossible to replace, so in the end the drivers were inserted by 
hand and the config.sys hand edited.
 
>There used be a good "SAVEFLDR" utility around that's handy for saving desktop
>structures - I suggest a hunt on Hobbes to see if it's around.  On this occasion
>I didn't bother - just drag/dropped stuff off the data disk to a CDROM where RSJ
>saved a safety copy "as is",  and I just built a new eCS partition and away it
>all went.   45 minutes or so to a running system, and one evening to have all my
>applications back in order and current code running it all.    Nice !
>
I keep my Desktop structures as folders on other partitions. Once the 
system is up and running I reinstitute the features to the desktop as 
and when I need them. And if I don't realy need something, it just gets 
quietly forgotten and lost without clogging up the desktop.
 
In a couple of weeks time I will reorganise my system and put it into 
boot manager with it's own partition.

Regards
Dennis.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:08:54 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Computerworld Today AM Edition  Microsoft changes XP slogan in wake of U.S. attacks

Wouldn't you think Canon corporation would have a problem with
this "rip off" of their "You can with a Canon" slogan ???

Ed.

John Angelico wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:55:16 +1100, Mailing_Serviceatidg dot com dot au wrote:
>
> >
> >Microsoft changes XP slogan in wake of U.S. attacks
> >Microsoft Corp. will change the advertising slogan for the Windows XP operating system from "Prepare to Fly" to "Yes You Can" because of the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. that involved hijacked airplanes, the company confirmed Friday.
> >http://www dot computerworld dot com dot au/IDG2.NSF/a/000448CE?OpenDocument&n=e&c=CT
>
> Aha!  There would appear to be scope here for contra-advertising
> slogans, like:
>
> "Yes You Can - When we say you can!!"
>
> "Yes You Can - but sorry that feature isn't there yet!"
>
> "Yes You Can - have every known virus attack your system..."
>
> "Yes You Can - well we could from here!"
>
> I wonder if the Register will pick up on this one... <Wicked Grin>
>
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG
> talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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>
> PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
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>

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:11:54 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Internet Banking

Hi Ian,
     How does one enable 128 Bit encryption under OS/2 ?  Is it a different
browser version or is it configurable somewhere ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

Ian Manners wrote:

> Hi All
>
> For those of you who are NAB Customers, there is light at the end
> of the tunnel.
> .......................
> The product is also faster than the Windows only version, and uses full
> 128bit encryption, if you dont have 128bit encryption enabled, it will not
> work.

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:12:11 +1300
From: steve <steveatedmondsfamily.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ssh on OS/2

Client or server,
I am using the client on my OS/2 machines to access unix boxes.
The client I use doesn't offer key re-mapping, some keys are not quite
right but it generally works fine.

steve

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Does anyone know how to setup ssh on OS/2?
> I got the download from hobbes, but the documentation is very hard to
> understand & has huge holes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Daryl  Pilkington 
> 
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> 
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>           Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
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> 
> 

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From: "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:00:35 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Internet Banking

Hi Ed

>     How does one enable 128 Bit encryption under OS/2 ?  Is it a different
>browser version or is it configurable somewhere ??

Its standard, as long as you have one of the latest NS v4.6x or higher for OS/2.
I believe it's not available only in 'select' countries. If you download
the latest free NS v4.61, or the version from SWC, then you have 128bit
encryption capability.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

Never laugh at a fool... just take his money

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 21:31:11 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Computerworld Today AM Edition Microsoft changes XP slogan in wake of U.S. attacks

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:08:54 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Wouldn't you think Canon corporation would have a problem with
>this "rip off" of their "You can with a Canon" slogan ???
>
>Ed.

It would be a nice idea to see Canon and MS fall out but seeing the
way they handle printer support, I think the symbiotic relationship
is closer to Siamese Twins than Fighting Brothers.

I think the Canon slogan is "With Canon, You Can" (I don't watch TV
so I am not 100% sure) so there may be enough marketing weasel words
to get MS off the hook.


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From: "List Admin" <ianatos2site dot com>
Date: Tue, 16 October 2001 00:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - OS/2UGSA Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

The OS/2 Users Group of South Australia Meeting

Date:  Tuesday, October 30th, 2001 
Time:  7:30PM - 9:30PM 
Place: ARPA, 84 Archer St, North Adelaide
           South Australia.

A hardware session is scheduled with a particular emphasis on networking
the machines via the hub that we purchased a while back and there are
networking cards availoble for those of you without one.

Lets see how many we can hook up and get talking to each other and see
if Brian will leave the meeting with his hair intact.

Regards,
Leigh Bunting
Secretary
OS/2UGSA


The Monthly Meeting of The OS/2 Users Group of South Australia Inc.
Normally held on the last Tuesday of each month.

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From: "List Admin" <ianatos2site dot com>
Date: Tue, 16 October 2001 00:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting 

Date:   Tuesday, October 23, 2001 
Time:  6:30PM - 9:30PM
Place:  Melbourne PC Group
           Victoria, Australia.

The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG 
Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month.
