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Saturday 21 June 2003
 Number  644
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Subjects for today
 
1   Networking with XP : Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
2   The Bastard School of Argument : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
3  Re:  Changing .CLASSINFO ? : Bruce Rossi" <brossi at melbpc dot org dot au>
4  Re:  Changing .CLASSINFO ? : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
5  Re:  Networking with XP : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6   The "Kill it" button : Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au>
7  Re:  The "Kill it" button : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
8  Re:  The "Kill it" button : Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au>
9  Re:  The "Kill it" button : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
10  Re:  The "Kill it" button : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
11  Re:  Networking with XP : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
12  Re:  The "Kill it" button : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
13  Re:  The "Kill it" button : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
14  Re:  Changing .CLASSINFO ? : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
15   Networking OS/2 & win2k : Glenn Montgomery <glenn at montysplace dot net>
16  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
17  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
18   eCS 1v1 Update : Dennis Nolan <denny at alphalink dot com dot au>
19  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
20   Addendum : Dennis Nolan <denny at alphalink dot com dot au>
21  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
22  Re:  eCS 1v1 Update : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
23  Re:  Addendum : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
24  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
25  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
26  Re:  Networking with XP : Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
27  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
28  Re:  Networking with XP : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
29  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>

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Date:  Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:41:24 +1100
From:  "Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
Subject:   Networking with XP

I would like to file share between my notebook and desktop computers. It works when both boot to OS/2, or one to WIn98 and the other to XP, or OS/2 and Win98, but I can't get them to talk with one running OS/2 and the other XP.  Any suggestions?

Configurations are

Tower (OS/2)    (same for both when both boot to OS/2)
Domain IBMPEERS
Protocols-   NetBIOS and TCP/IP

Laptop (XP Pro)
Domain IBMPEERS
Protocols-     Client Microsoft networks, File and Print sharing, QoS Packet Scheduler, NWLink NetBIOS, NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS, TCP/IP
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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:35:54 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:   The Bastard School of Argument

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/31343.html

OS/2 contend ?
Read it :-)

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

Computers are like Old Testament gods; lots of rules and no mercy.
    	-- Joseph Campbell
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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:36:57 -1000
From:  "Bruce Rossi" <brossi at melbpc dot org dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Changing .CLASSINFO ?

Hello Mike,

My assumption is that a folder class is also registered in OS2SYS.INI, so when the folder is 
copied to a new system, that link is broken & it assumes the default folder class there.

I selectively copied files, directories & directory branches with ZTBold which is supposed to 
copy the EAs as well, in the hope that most would not need re-installing. This is proving to be not 
so true.

>From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
>Subject:  Re:  Changing .CLASSINFO ?
>
>Bruce Rossi wrote:
>>With a new HD and the original installs copied across, of course their class is lost.
>>I can re-register the class but how to change the object's class to this ?
>>
>Hi Bruce,
>I don't quite follow what you're saying.  When you say "original 
>installs copied across", why would they ever  lose their class?  Are you 
>cloning a system to a new drive?  Did you try zipping the entire drive 
>and unzipping it on the new HD?
>Regards,
>Mike
>
Cheers,

  ,-._|\    Bruce Rossi                 OS/2 Warp 4 for stability, versatility and depth. A True Operating System.
 /  Oz  \ brossi at melbpc dot org dot au The Best -> Rexx, Java, File System, User Interface, MSDOS, Windows 3.1
 \_,--.x/ Melbourne, Australia     Multitasking, Shadows (Pointers to Objects), Associations for Applications.
       v                                        I can work on Solving Real-World Problems, not Operating System Crashes

There are 49 Processes with 167 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 15h 19m 23s 876ms.
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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:08:45 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Changing .CLASSINFO ?

Bruce Rossi wrote:

>Hello Mike,
>
>My assumption is that a folder class is also registered in OS2SYS.INI, so when the folder is 
>copied to a new system, that link is broken & it assumes the default folder class there.
>
>I selectively copied files, directories & directory branches with ZTBold which is supposed to 
>copy the EAs as well, in the hope that most would not need re-installing. This is proving to be not 
>so true.
>
>>From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
>>Subject:  Re:  Changing .CLASSINFO ?
>>
>>Bruce Rossi wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>With a new HD and the original installs copied across, of course their class is lost.
>>>I can re-register the class but how to change the object's class to this ?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Hi Bruce,
>>I don't quite follow what you're saying.  When you say "original 
>>installs copied across", why would they ever  lose their class?  Are you 
>>cloning a system to a new drive?  Did you try zipping the entire drive 
>>and unzipping it on the new HD?
>>Regards,
>>Mike
>>    
>>
Hi Bruce,
I received your message - looking at the headers I see a re-sent time 
etc. added by Ian Manners -
the delivery date-time here agree with when you sent it but IBM WB V2 - 
Mail displays it as 22:36 Saturday - not 02:36 as sent.
Afraid you're in a queue at this end - this just to let you know it's in 
there.
Mike


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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:24:20 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking with XP

You need to install Netbeui support under Windows XP, by default it is no longer available but it can be added from the Windows XP install CD. See Microsoft website or XPs own inbuilt help system for details.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Peter Rehfisch wrote:

> I would like to file share between my notebook and desktop computers. It works when both boot to OS/2, or one to WIn98 and the other to XP, or OS/2 and Win98, but I can't get them to talk with one running OS/2 and the other XP.  Any suggestions?
>
> Configurations are
>
> Tower (OS/2)    (same for both when both boot to OS/2)
> Domain IBMPEERS
> Protocols-   NetBIOS and TCP/IP
>
> Laptop (XP Pro)
> Domain IBMPEERS
> Protocols-     Client Microsoft networks, File and Print sharing, QoS Packet Scheduler, NWLink NetBIOS, NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS, TCP/IP

>  


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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:42:45 GMT
From:  "Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au>
Subject:   The "Kill it" button

Greetings,
Does anyone know how to create the "switch to another application" button that
is on the ecomcenter bar as in ecs 1.0.
The ability to hold the control key and bring up the list of all threads
running is what I really want so I can kill threads that have lost their way.
How can I do it in ecs1.1?
Regards,

Michael
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:43:22 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  The "Kill it" button

Hi Michael

> The ability to hold the control key and bring up the list of all threads
> running is what I really want so I can kill threads that have lost their way.
> How can I do it in ecs1.1?

Add this to config.sys

SET KILLFEATUREENABLED=ON

Then click Ctrl + the tasklist button on Warp or eCS Center

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

WINERR 026 - 
 REMOVING YOUR LEAST-FAVORITE DATA TO MAKE ROOM FOR COOL ICONS
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:44:36 GMT
From:  "Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  The "Kill it" button

Greetings,
What I mean't to say as well was that I want to create it on the new ecenter.
Regards,

Michael
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:07:17 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  The "Kill it" button

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:42:45 GMT, Michael Barrow wrote:

>Greetings,
>Does anyone know how to create the "switch to another application" button that
>is on the ecomcenter bar as in ecs 1.0.
>The ability to hold the control key and bring up the list of all threads
>running is what I really want so I can kill threads that have lost their way.
>How can I do it in ecs1.1?

The eCenter in eCS 1.1 is different than in eCS 1.0.  eCenter comes
from eWorkplace (effectively XWorkplace lite), rather than being a
renamed WarpCenter.  To get this function, you need to install an extra
widget.  Get wxTask from http://www.os2usr dot org/xcenter/  .  It's may
also be one of the widgets in the eCS widgets packages on hobbes
(ecs_wgts_pkg_1a.zip and ecs_wgts_pkg_2a.zip).  
--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:15:38 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  The "Kill it" button

Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Michael
>
>>The ability to hold the control key and bring up the list of all threads
>>running is what I really want so I can kill threads that have lost their way.
>>How can I do it in ecs1.1?
>>    
>>
>
>Add this to config.sys
>
>SET KILLFEATUREENABLED=ON
>
>Then click Ctrl + the tasklist button on Warp or eCS Center
>  
>
Hi Michael, Ian,
eComCenter is still in the Programs|Utilities, so you can have it 
activated simultaneously with eCenter, either by adding ",WARPCENTER" to 
autostart line in config.sys or putting a shadow in the startup folder, 
in addition to what Ian has said about the config.sys setting above. I 
never saw your original post for some reason.
Regards,
Mike

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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:19:09 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Networking with XP

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:41:24 +1100, Peter Rehfisch wrote:

>I would like to file share between my notebook and desktop computers. It works when both boot to OS/2, or one to WIn98 and the other to XP, or OS/2 and Win98, but I can't get them to talk with one running OS/2 and the other XP.  Any suggestions?
>
>Configurations are
>
>Tower (OS/2)    (same for both when both boot to OS/2)
>Domain IBMPEERS
>Protocols-   NetBIOS and TCP/IP
>
>Laptop (XP Pro)
>Domain IBMPEERS
>Protocols-     Client Microsoft networks, File and Print sharing, QoS Packet Scheduler, NWLink NetBIOS, NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS, TCP/IP

I have something like this here, and it works.  The things that come to
mind are:

- If you do a "net view \\xxxxx" from each machine (with the
appropriate names for xxxxx), what is the response?

- Can you ping the other machines?  This is just to prove the
networking is working between them.

- Have you setup a userid on each machine for the userid used on the
other machine?

- Do they both have the same DOMAIN name or WorkGroup name?

- As Ed said, installing Netbeui on the XP maching is a good way to go.
 This is more secure than having NETBIOS over TCP/IP.  But, if the
important thing is to have the same protocol on all machines.  Using
NETBIOS over TCP/IP works OK here.  

The third or the second one are my bet as to the problem.  If the
response from the net view command is some sort of "no access", then
this is the case.  If it's "network path is not found", then it's
probably DOMAIN/WORKGROUP name.

--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:29:54 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  The "Kill it" button

Michael Barrow wrote:

>Greetings,
>What I mean't to say as well was that I want to create it on the new ecenter.
>Regards,
>
>Michael
>  
>
Hi Michael,
Firstly your message showed up here in IBM WB-Mail as timestamped 22:44 
Saturday - I notice in the headers your original is timed with a -0000 
[GMT/UTC] base-timezone yet you are in Australia same as me.

There was an "earlier" response from David Forrester, timed 14:07 local 
here, which tells you how to achieve just that.

Regards,
Mike

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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:07:43 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  The "Kill it" button

You need to add the wstaskb widget to the ecs bar (I've sent you this direct
off-list).

Cheers/2

Ed.

Michael Barrow wrote:

> Greetings,
> Does anyone know how to create the "switch to another application" button that
> is on the ecomcenter bar as in ecs 1.0.
> The ability to hold the control key and bring up the list of all threads
> running is what I really want so I can kill threads that have lost their way.
> How can I do it in ecs1.1?
> Regards,
>
> Michael

>  


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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:36:02 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Changing .CLASSINFO ?

Hi Bruce,
You've "progressed in the queue" as they have a habit of saying on e.g. 
Telstra's ITR systems.
I've had to dig very deeply through about 250K (number) of files to find 
some old [source .ASM] assembler files to re-assemble in order to answer 
another query very definitively, with a  dot com file I wrote about 5 years 
ago, but haven't indexed anywhere.  I've cleared the mail-backlog [191 
messages sent today], so as soon as I finish re-programming, I'll give 
you the decent response you deserve.
Regards,
Mike



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**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:58:28 +1000
From:  Glenn Montgomery <glenn at montysplace dot net>
Subject:   Networking OS/2 & win2k

Hello all,

I have two machines at the moment, one Warp4FR12 (on a dial up
connection to the internet) and one win2k. The Warp machine is the mail
server and I want it to be the gateway to the internet.

Is there any way of setting it up so that the win2k machine can initiate
a dial out via the warp machine so the win2k can surf, and then hang up
as well, or does this have to be done at the warp machine (which would
be a pain for my wife!!).

Should I use a proxy, if so suggestions for which one etc

Thanks guys
Glenn



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**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:32:57 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k

Simple !

Use Injoy dialer and enable dial-on-demand. Set the Win2k boxes default route address
as the address of your Warp box.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Glenn Montgomery wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have two machines at the moment, one Warp4FR12 (on a dial up
> connection to the internet) and one win2k. The Warp machine is the mail
> server and I want it to be the gateway to the internet.
>
> Is there any way of setting it up so that the win2k machine can initiate
> a dial out via the warp machine so the win2k can surf, and then hang up
> as well, or does this have to be done at the warp machine (which would
> be a pain for my wife!!).
>
> Should I use a proxy, if so suggestions for which one etc
>
> Thanks guys
> Glenn
>

>  


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**= Email   17 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:36:03 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k

No need for a proxy or firewall as the injoy software NATs the internal LAN addresses,
so their safe (and so that you can use one ISP IP address to connect to the internet
on multiple PCs concurently).

By the way, I presume the wife's w2k box and your Warp box are connected to a LAN and
are configured in the same TCPIP subnet with the same subnet mask configured.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Glenn Montgomery wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have two machines at the moment, one Warp4FR12 (on a dial up
> connection to the internet) and one win2k. The Warp machine is the mail
> server and I want it to be the gateway to the internet.
>
> Is there any way of setting it up so that the win2k machine can initiate
> a dial out via the warp machine so the win2k can surf, and then hang up
> as well, or does this have to be done at the warp machine (which would
> be a pain for my wife!!).
>
> Should I use a proxy, if so suggestions for which one etc
>
> Thanks guys
> Glenn
>

>  


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**= Email   18 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:47:44 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <denny at alphalink dot com dot au>
Subject:   eCS 1v1 Update

Hi All

I solved my installation problem, I think it was caused by bad RAM, and
with the install using a RAM disk, well, it just didn't stand a chance.

Solution - New System, the Install now realy flies.

Now for the problems - Networking:

Three systems
M1 the A2200XP+
    Adapter config    Realtek 8139
                                    1    IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
                                    0    IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP
                                    0    IBM OS/2 TCP/IP

M2   A450KIII
    Adapter config    Realtek 8139
                                    0    IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP
                                    0    IBM OS/2 TCP/IP

M3 Win98
    Same adapter and all sorts of windows protocols

My problem is that M1 and M2 can see M3
They can read and write to M3, no probs.

However M3 cannot see either M1 or M2 and
M1 cannot see M2, and M2 cannot see M1

M1 can ping M2 and M3
M3 can ping M1 and M2
M2 can not ping either of the other machines, nor can it ping itself.

But if I use the DOS Ping.exe found in \TCPIP\BIN, it can Ping M1,

Cannot see any reason for this in any of the NET, NETSTAT or IFCONFIG
queries

The Domain names are the same

By the way, someone mentioned setting up the same userid's in the
various nodes. If you do thes the network messaging goes on strike.

Any assistance would be appreciated

Regards

Dennis.



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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:46:00 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k

Glenn Montgomery wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have two machines at the moment, one Warp4FR12 (on a dial up
> connection to the internet) and one win2k. The Warp machine is the mail
> server and I want it to be the gateway to the internet.
>
> Is there any way of setting it up so that the win2k machine can initiate
> a dial out via the warp machine so the win2k can surf, and then hang up
> as well, or does this have to be done at the warp machine (which would
> be a pain for my wife!!).
>
> Should I use a proxy, if so suggestions for which one etc
>
> Thanks guys
> Glenn

Hi Glenn,
I do exactly that using Dial on Demand, doesn't matter whether the 
"slave" is OS/2-eCs or WIN or LINUX, using either ISDNPM{eCSCoNet} or 
INJOY Dialler with Dial-up on ISDN. Have to make sure I don't log-in for 
mail on both machines simultaneously otherwise that screw up the 
relationship with the ISP :-)

I don't actually hang-up from the slave I just let it time-out and have 
the slave set-up as direct connection to the internet using NAT on the 
OS/2-eCs "Server".
HTH
Regards,
Mike


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**= Email   20 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:57:58 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <denny at alphalink dot com dot au>
Subject:   Addendum

Sorry but I forgot about the dialup not working

M1 is the dialup machine, though I am reduced to useing the Win98 at the
moment.

I'm useing InJoy Dialer, and the connection is made and PPP fires up but
then nothing.

I can ping myself, ie my local address as well as the ISP assigned
address, but I cannot ping either the main DNS or the backup DNS.

The connection just times out.

Regards

Dennis.



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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:00:02 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k

Ed Durrant wrote:

>Simple !
>
>Use Injoy dialer and enable dial-on-demand. Set the Win2k boxes default route address
>as the address of your Warp box.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>  
>
Hi Ed, Glenn,
You have to be *very* careful if you use DoD with a regular [PSTN] phone 
dial-up. You'll pay a connection charge for EVERY CALL.  With ISDN I can 
call 300 times a day, and only get charged $AU 0.01 if I'm online for ~2 
minutes.  Every time I check my mail - frequently - it times out by 
choice after 15 seconds - so no charge at all - no connection charges - 
only $0.30 per hour charged on a per-second basis. Last month I had 
7,000 ISDN-data line calls for a total of $AU10.34 - mainly because I 
had some large downloads.
HTH
Regards,
Mike

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**= Email   22 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:27:47 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1v1 Update

Dennis Nolan wrote:

>Hi All
>
>I solved my installation problem, I think it was caused by bad RAM, and
>with the install using a RAM disk, well, it just didn't stand a chance.
>
>Solution - New System, the Install now realy flies.
>
>Now for the problems - Networking:
>
>Three systems
>M1 the A2200XP+
>    Adapter config    Realtek 8139
>                                    1    IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
>                                    0    IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP
>                                    0    IBM OS/2 TCP/IP
>
>M2   A450KIII
>    Adapter config    Realtek 8139
>                                    0    IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP
>                                    0    IBM OS/2 TCP/IP
>
>M3 Win98
>    Same adapter and all sorts of windows protocols
>
>My problem is that M1 and M2 can see M3
>They can read and write to M3, no probs.
>
>However M3 cannot see either M1 or M2 and
>M1 cannot see M2, and M2 cannot see M1
>
>M1 can ping M2 and M3
>M3 can ping M1 and M2
>M2 can not ping either of the other machines, nor can it ping itself.
>
>But if I use the DOS Ping.exe found in \TCPIP\BIN, it can Ping M1,
>
>Cannot see any reason for this in any of the NET, NETSTAT or IFCONFIG
>queries
>
>The Domain names are the same
>
>By the way, someone mentioned setting up the same userid's in the
>various nodes. If you do thes the network messaging goes on strike.
>
>Any assistance would be appreciated
>  
>
Hi Dennis,
Last point first.  Make sure that all the user IDs exist on the various 
machines - they don't have to be the one that's logged on currently, 
which gets over the messaging problem.

With M3 remove any protocols that aren't being used - make sure that you 
have NetBIOS on there too.
Make sure LMAnnounce=Yes in settings

Make sure on M2 that srvhidden=NO in ?:\ibmlan\ibmlan.ini

All the MPTS allocations to logical adapters seem to be in agreement 
with what I have here.

If M2 can't ping itself - I can't see how anything else can ping it. Are 
you sure that the IP dotted-decimal address you have allocated isn't 
duped somewhere?

That's all I can think of at the moment.
HTH
Regards,
Mike


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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:45:28 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Addendum

Dennis Nolan wrote:

>Sorry but I forgot about the dialup not working
>
>M1 is the dialup machine, though I am reduced to useing the Win98 at the
>moment.
>
>I'm useing InJoy Dialer, and the connection is made and PPP fires up but
>then nothing.
>
>I can ping myself, ie my local address as well as the ISP assigned
>address, but I cannot ping either the main DNS or the backup DNS.
>
>The connection just times out.
>  
>
Hi Dennis,
I can't get a response from my ISP's DNS servers - which is normal, 
they're programmed not to respond to ping, but I can do a NSLOOKUP on 
them with no problem!

Try nslookup on your DNS. Do you select DDNS = 0.0.0.0 for both your 
nameservers?
Regards,
Mike


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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:47:31 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k

The other point is that if your in a large city, with some companies, local calls are
untimed, so you're better staying connected than connecting and re-connecting all the time
- it's a balance and depends upon your location.

If one starts to use the Internet more than say 3-4 hours per day, Cable or ADSL is
actually cheaper than dial-up as well as being much faster. These technologies provide a
permanent connection without locking up your phone.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Mike O'Connor wrote:

> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >Simple !
> >
> >Use Injoy dialer and enable dial-on-demand. Set the Win2k boxes default route address
> >as the address of your Warp box.
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >
> >Ed.
> >
> >
> Hi Ed, Glenn,
> You have to be *very* careful if you use DoD with a regular [PSTN] phone
> dial-up. You'll pay a connection charge for EVERY CALL.  With ISDN I can
> call 300 times a day, and only get charged $AU 0.01 if I'm online for ~2
> minutes.  Every time I check my mail - frequently - it times out by
> choice after 15 seconds - so no charge at all - no connection charges -
> only $0.30 per hour charged on a per-second basis. Last month I had
> 7,000 ISDN-data line calls for a total of $AU10.34 - mainly because I
> had some large downloads.
> HTH
> Regards,
> Mike
>

>  


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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:51:34 +1000
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:00:02 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:

>Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>>Simple !
>>
>>Use Injoy dialer and enable dial-on-demand. Set the Win2k boxes default route address
>>as the address of your Warp box.
>>
>>Cheers/2
>>
>>Ed.
>>  
>>
>Hi Ed, Glenn,
>You have to be *very* careful if you use DoD with a regular [PSTN] phone 
>dial-up. You'll pay a connection charge for EVERY CALL.  With ISDN I can 
>call 300 times a day, and only get charged $AU 0.01 if I'm online for ~2 
>minutes.  Every time I check my mail - frequently - it times out by 
>choice after 15 seconds - so no charge at all - no connection charges - 
>only $0.30 per hour charged on a per-second basis. Last month I had 
>7,000 ISDN-data line calls for a total of $AU10.34 - mainly because I 
>had some large downloads.

I remember when I first installed InJoy, I was horrified at how often
DoD caused a phone call.  I soon reverted to manual dialing.  But, to
make it easy, and, because the monitor on the gateway machine died, I
wrote a little Rexx script that allowed me to control the InJoy from a
browser.  It does require a web server running on the gateway, but, if
Glenn is already running a mail server, it won't be hard to install. 
It's on my site below under "Small Things".

--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/


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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:49:47 +1100
From:  "Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking with XP

Thanks, Ed, NETBEUI now installed onto the XP computer but still no luck.

David Forrester wrote
>
>- If you do a "net view \\xxxxx" from each machine (with the
>appropriate names for xxxxx), what is the response?
Each sees only itself. Each reports "Network path not found" for the other.

>- Can you ping the other machines?  This is just to prove the
>networking is working between them.
Yes. Tower IP=192.168.1.1       Laptop IP=192.168.1.2

>- Have you setup a userid on each machine for the userid used on the
>other machine?
Isn't this only when setting up access controls? 

>- Do they both have the same DOMAIN name or WorkGroup name?
Yes. Laptop(XP) workgroup and Tower(OS/2) domain both IBMPEERS.

>If it's "network path is not found", then it's
>probably DOMAIN/WORKGROUP name.
So what else do I need?
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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:04:54 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k

David Forrester wrote:

>On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:00:02 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>
>>Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>>Simple !
>>>
>>>Use Injoy dialer and enable dial-on-demand. Set the Win2k boxes default route address
>>>as the address of your Warp box.
>>>
>>>Cheers/2
>>>
>>>Ed.
>>>
>>Hi Ed, Glenn,
>>You have to be *very* careful if you use DoD with a regular [PSTN] phone 
>>dial-up. You'll pay a connection charge for EVERY CALL.  With ISDN I can 
>>call 300 times a day, and only get charged $AU 0.01 if I'm online for ~2 
>>minutes.  Every time I check my mail - frequently - it times out by 
>>choice after 15 seconds - so no charge at all - no connection charges - 
>>only $0.30 per hour charged on a per-second basis. Last month I had 
>>7,000 ISDN-data line calls for a total of $AU10.34 - mainly because I 
>>had some large downloads.
>>    
>>
>
>I remember when I first installed InJoy, I was horrified at how often
>DoD caused a phone call.  I soon reverted to manual dialing.  But, to
>make it easy, and, because the monitor on the gateway machine died, I
>wrote a little Rexx script that allowed me to control the InJoy from a
>browser.  It does require a web server running on the gateway, but, if
>Glenn is already running a mail server, it won't be hard to install. 
>It's on my site below under "Small Things".
>
>--
>David Forrester
>davidfor at internode.on dot net
>http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/
>  
>
Hi David,
How're you going these days?
The first month or so after finally getting ISDN, because I couldn't get 
any specific information regarding initialising the NTU - Network 
termination unit - I was hooked up using the analogue RJ11 port on it 
along with an analogue 56K V.90 external modem.  When I saw the phone 
bill after that first month, I nearly fell over! Not any more. The 
script sounds like a good idea for those using POTS.
Regards,
Mike


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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:04:59 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking with XP

Try net view \\tower from the XP box and net view \\laptop from the warp box - what
results ?

Cheers/2

Ed.

Peter Rehfisch wrote:

> Thanks, Ed, NETBEUI now installed onto the XP computer but still no luck.
>
> David Forrester wrote
> >
> >- If you do a "net view \\xxxxx" from each machine (with the
> >appropriate names for xxxxx), what is the response?
> Each sees only itself. Each reports "Network path not found" for the other.
>
> >- Can you ping the other machines?  This is just to prove the
> >networking is working between them.
> Yes. Tower IP=192.168.1.1       Laptop IP=192.168.1.2
>
> >- Have you setup a userid on each machine for the userid used on the
> >other machine?
> Isn't this only when setting up access controls?
>
> >- Do they both have the same DOMAIN name or WorkGroup name?
> Yes. Laptop(XP) workgroup and Tower(OS/2) domain both IBMPEERS.
>
> >If it's "network path is not found", then it's
> >probably DOMAIN/WORKGROUP name.
> So what else do I need?

>  


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Date:  Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:39:47 +1000 (EST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Networking OS/2 & win2k

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:58:28 +1000, Glenn Montgomery wrote:

>Hello all,

Hi Glenn.

>
>I have two machines at the moment, one Warp4FR12 (on a dial up
>connection to the internet) and one win2k. The Warp machine is the mail
>server and I want it to be the gateway to the internet.
>
>Is there any way of setting it up so that the win2k machine can initiate
>a dial out via the warp machine so the win2k can surf, and then hang up
>as well, or does this have to be done at the warp machine (which would
>be a pain for my wife!!).

Sounds like a swift path to destruction...

>
>Should I use a proxy, if so suggestions for which one etc


Others have started to answer about  the dialling but if you want to look
at a web proxy and efficient cache replacement for NS and Mozilla, check
out Radim Kolar's SmartCache done entirely in Java:
http://home.tiscali.cz:8080/~cz210552/scache.html 

I use it here all the time, although we have an Optus cable connection so
dialling isn't an issue, and saving time/throughput on a 33K modem is no
longer a problem.

It is occasionally a pain with a) logins like newspapers or membership
sites or b) Google and Slashdot (can't explain these).

I use the gateway machine at the front of the house (the bridge of our
ship) while the second machine is near the stock in the "warehouse" end of
the place (the engine room), and a laptop can be connected as well (for
that pesky GST it runs Win95 for about 20 minutes per month). 

My machine has two network cards - one RTL8139 for the cable connection
from the "cable modem/isolator" and the other RTL8029 for the internal LAN
running on internal IP addresses (192.168.0.0-3).

I control the running of the cache from here, plus I also run Peter
Moylan's Weasel mail server here to distribute all mail received from our
upstream server. I still have to have an ISP mail server setup because the
Optus is DHCP so not a fixed IP address. 

HTH


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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