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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 180
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Date:- 09 October 2001

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 07:43:40 +0930
From: Gregory Hicks <ghicksatihug dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpzilla crash

Have you tried opera yet?  That is quite good as a replacement to IE and NS (and its OS/2, Linux
suitable).

Paul Smedley wrote:

> Well Warpzilla definitely isn't faster to load, but once it is loaded, I find it to be very
> stable and fast, and is also capable of loading a lot of sites that just won't load in NS 4.x
> anymore.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2001 20:34:07 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>
> >Hi David,
> >So is Warpzilla faster, more stable & compatible than NS4.61?
> >Is it ready for "prime-time"?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Daryl  Pilkington
> >
> >//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> >O<O  AUSTRALIA
> >\_/
> ><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
> >     IBM Certified Systems Expert
> >
> >        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
> >          ICQ: 91914134
> >          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
> >          Mob: +61-425-251-300
> >          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
> >      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)
> >
> >

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 00:28:09 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpzilla crash

Daryl Pilkington schreef:

> Hi David,
> So is Warpzilla faster, more stable & compatible than NS4.61?
> Is it ready for "prime-time"?
>

Short answer: No!
--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 00:29:57 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpzilla crash

Gregory Hicks schreef:

> Have you tried opera yet?  That is quite good as a replacement to IE and NS (and its OS/2, Linux
> suitable).
>

Hit hereto no java, no javascript, no mailer.

Maybe next beta.


--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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From: Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpzilla crash
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:49:45 +1000 


I quite like it too, but I just can't seem to get JAVA to work.  I
tried copying the JAVA 1.3 plugins from NS6.61 to the plugins dir of Zilla
(which was the trick to get the FLASH to work), but now that just crashes
the system when I come across a JAVA page.

	Has anybody been able to get JAVA up on it?

	Hi David,
	So is Warpzilla faster, more stable & compatible than NS4.61?
	Is it ready for "prime-time"?

	Regards,

	Daryl  Pilkington 

	//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
	O<O  AUSTRALIA
	\_/
	<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
	     IBM Certified Systems Expert

	        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
	          ICQ: 91914134
	          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
	          Mob: +61-425-251-300
	          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
	      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)
	

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From: tsqatchariot dot net dot au
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:34:17 -0800
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpzilla crash

On 10/08/01 at 09:34 AM, Peter Pigott <peterpattac dot com dot au> said:

It loaded without crashing here.

Glenn.

->G'day all,

->Using Warpzilla0.9.4 (build id. 2001091812) Iget an instant death trying
-> to link to http://www.burkesbackyard dot com dot au . Anyone confirm? Works 
->under NS 4.61.

->Regards
->Peter Pigott


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From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:13:45 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Warpzilla crash

On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 00:28:09 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>Daryl Pilkington schreef:
>
>> Hi David,
>> So is Warpzilla faster, more stable & compatible than NS4.61?
>> Is it ready for "prime-time"?
>>
>
>Short answer: No!
>--

Kris is probably right in that it's not ready for prime-time.  But, is
NS4,61?  I'm using the 20011001 nightly build as my primary browser
since it can now do DDE (so I can open links from PMMail and
ProNews/2).  The main problem is the lack of drag-and-drop.  Also, as I
don't have Java 1.3, it can't do java.  I'd say that I only get
slightly more crashes from Warpzila than NS4.61.  But, so far it hasn't
take the whole system down.

Hmm, I'm wrong about it not taking the system down.  I tried the
alternate theme, and after a while (several hours and with at least
five windows open each containing more than one tab) it did crash
things.  But, with the default theme, I haven't had any problems.  I'm
quite happy to put up with the standard theme.


--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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From: <djnatpeninsula.hotkey dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] A newbie's simple guide for connecting OatH to OS/2?
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 21:14:22 -1000

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:38:43 +1000, Stephen Anderson wrote:

>Does such a guide exist?
>
>Last night I installed OS/2 version 4 (the version that was given away
>for free last year on the APC magazine disk) and I immediately updated
>the OS by installing OS/2 Fixpack 5 which appeared on an APC magazine
>disc from April 1998.  I then added the following line to my
>\mptn\etc\dhcpcd.cfg file:
>
>Option 12 "COnnnnnnn-A"	# Host Name (cable customer ID)
> (all the other options in this file were rem'ed by default)
>
>However at boot up, the computer initialises the AOpen Ethernet adaptor,
>and then waits for about 60 seconds while it attempts to make a
>connection to the DHCP server at OatH.  After this time I get a message
>telling me it was unable to get the required information and that it
>would continue to try in the background.
>
I have this same problem.
No network card.
However when I start the Dial other ISP's I get a warning that my system
has a network card configured, and that I may not be able to access the 
LAN whilst on-line. This of course I ignore and naturaly enough I do not
have LAN access whilst on-line.

When eCS was installed last weekend, on it's first boot it had this DHCP
message and I was shown the correct settings to eliminate this, but I 
had the wrong sound card driver installed. The display driver wasn't 
correct either. So three days and five installs later I had the computer
almost back to usable, but I had forgotten how to get rid of that 
annoying message at boot up.

My bigest problem with eCS is that it has slowed down file access.
I realy notice it when compiling, during the compile the compiler opens 
and reads thirty or more definition files, previously this was done in 
about a second or two, the file list scrolled down like with a "dir" 
command. Now each file takes a second or more. The cpu monitor on the 
task bar just shows a tiny blip at the start of the compile and then 
indicates minimum activity while the file system struggles on.
Strangly the linker is just as fast as ever, it opens twice as many 
files than the compiler but takes just a second or two to complete. 
Adding resources to the exe file also seems to take longer, a very 
noticible pause of inactivity before it starts writing to the file.
I'm still using HPFS and havent changed the disk, partition or directory
structures.
Other that those problems all is ok.

Regards
Dennis.

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:22:00 +0800
From: Bob <bobatcontact.omen dot com dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Need new OS/2 machine. Best bang/$ ?

Well it looks like I'm in for a new OS/2 box :(. I've been suffering a
increasingly common series of failures on my main workstation recently
and now it is failing to proceed (well at least in part, it'll boot to a
CLI but the WPS is dead dead dead :( strong suspicions of HDD+RAM
problems). [1]

I have not been keeping up with the hardware side o things for a while
so I hope I can pick you guy's brains to get me up to speed quickly :) 

I will be building this box myself so any suggestions for reasonably
priced solidly supported hardware would be appreciated my priorities are
$! :), os/2/ecs[2] support, linux support. I was thinking along the
lines of an AMD cpu. Are there any traps to be aware of there (I seem to
remember something ...) ? 

Graphics card... I'm not even sure what's out there at the moment. I do
a fair amount of 2d graphics work so something that does a decent job
would be good. ( $ dependent of course :). Are any of the M/boards with
onboard graphic worth a look? (I would tend to doubt it but you never
know your luck:).
 
sound... I'll probably recycle the sb16 I have. I don't use sound much
at all. I detest computers beeping and tweeting at me :).

HDD... Anything to avoid? I understand some of the 7200 rpm drives are a
bit dire.

I'll be recycling the peripherals so all I need is a case and some ram
.... I think I can figure that out :). 


[1] It hasn't done too badly. In it's current incarnation it's mostly 7
years old (well the important bits anyway... some are older:), with ~ 16
- 18hrs uptime a day its seen ~46000 hrs of use.

[2] well at least this will give me the excuse to install the ecs I own
:).

BTW- Voyteck- yes, this has happened since we email'd last... in fact it
died while I was reading your reply :(.

Thanks in advance :).
