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Saturday 06 July 2002
 Number  387
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
3  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
4  [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptusnet dot com dot au>
5  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Paul Smedley" <paulatsmedley.info>
6  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
7  Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. : Richard R. Pufky" <rpufky1atrochester.rr dot com>
8  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Richard R. Pufky" <rpufky1atrochester.rr dot com>
9  Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptusnet dot com dot au>
10  Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. : Richard R. Pufky" <rpufky1atrochester.rr dot com>
11  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>

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Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:02:19 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator

What is this "Bovine" client ? Bovine to me, means something related to
a cow !

Actually with the test programs I have already been pointed to via
several members including Kenneth from Denmark and of course Ian, have
proved what I thought - that with a PIII on a PC100 M747 motherboard,
changing the multiplier in the BIOS (to try to overclock the chip) has
absolutely no effect, although the Bios indicates a speed of 550, 600 or
650 MHz (There's no way it'll run at 650 - I was just trying to prove
the point), the Chip continues to run at its standard 500 MHz, no matter
what !

Thanks for everyones help

Ed.

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> 
> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> Fri, 05 Jul 2002 17:22:16 +1000
> 
> > The situation I have is that the CPU speed is set in the BIOS and I have
> > increased the multiplier there. Everything seems to work fine, but I see
> > no difference and I want to prove that the speed has actually changed -
> > I think it hasn't.  This is one of my PC CHIPS motherboards that have
> > brought me trouble before and yes, it's time I got something a bit more
> > up to date, but ... it's more of a challenge to get these boards to work
> > correctly !!
> 
> if you run RC56 Bovine client, you'll see the difference easily.
> 
> when I compared PPro150/180 RC56 result vs PII300, the difference was purely
> proporational to raw MGhz, that's all
> 
> Voytek Eymont
> SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
> http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
> phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118

>  

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Date:  Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:50:42
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:02:19 +1000


> What is this "Bovine" client ? Bovine to me, means something related to 
> a cow ! 

http://www.distributed dot net/download/clients.html#os2

<groper>[F:\rc56]dnetc

distributed dot net client for OS/2 Copyright 1997-1999, distributed dot net
DES bitslice driver Copyright 1997-1998, Andrew Meggs
DES sboxes routines Copyright 1997-1998, Matthew Kwan
DES search routines Copyright 1997-1998, Svend Olaf Mikkelsen
Please visit http://www.distributed dot net/ for up-to-date contest information.

dnetc v2.8003-448-CTR-99121410 for OS/2.
Please provide the *entire* version descriptor when submitting bug reports.
The distributed dot net bug report pages are at http://www.distributed dot net/bugs/
Using email address (distributed dot net ID) 'voytekatsbt dot net dot au'

[Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] Automatic processor detection found 1 processor.
[Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] Automatic processor type detection found
                      an Intel Pentium II processor.
[Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] RC5: using core #2 (RG class 6).
[Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] Loaded RC5 4*2^28 packet 5CDB67B6:80000000 (15.30% done)
[Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] 4 RC5 packets (13 work units) remain in buff-in.rc5
[Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] 6 RC5 packets (20 work units) are in buff-out.rc5
[Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] 1 cruncher has been started.
.....10%..R

it's a number cruncher.

you can quickly see how fas your CPU crunches, if altering speed doesn;t
make it crunch faster, it hasn't altered




Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:36:36
From:  Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator

** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com> Fri, 05 Jul 2002 23:56:45 +1000 (EST)


> PIII-450 1.26Mkey 
> Celeron-500  1.28Mkey 
> PIII-500 1.40Mkey 
> PIII-600 1.67Mkey 
> PIII-650 1.81Mkey 
> Mac G4 400Mhz = 3.95Mkey

with a PII300, I just don't rate anymore....very sad...

0.00:19:15.41 - [787,131.25 keys/sec]
0.00:19:15.41 - [787.13 kkeys/s]
0.00:22:19.00 - [801,898.30 keys/sec]
0.00:41:34.41 - [795.05 kkeys/s]

MGhz    result   res/freq *1000
450	1.26	28
C500	1.28	25.6
500	1.4	28
600	1.67	27.83
650	1.81	27.84

Mac400	3.95	98.75
		
300	0.8	26.666666666667



Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 
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Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 15:08:22 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ.

Hi All,

I am using RSJ 3.61 (and have tried the latest 4.04 as well)
on my Pioneer DCR-111 atapi CDRW burner and DVD reader.
That is, it is all in one unit.  Both a CDRW and a DVD reader.
My system is a combined IDE and Ultra160 SCSI and running eCS v1.01.

After a lot of tweaks and RTFM'ing the changes to my system 
are as follows.

I have fitted a 80 wire cable to the 2nd IDE channel as 
documented in Dani's doc file.

I have the following to turn DMA on to the CDRW/DVD rom drive:-
BASEDEV=DANIS506.ADD /A:1 /U:1 /BM

The above is from my config.sys where the CDRW/DVD rom reader 
is on the 2nd IDE channel and is a slave to a zip 100 drive.

I have the DANIAtapi filter now positioned AFTER my scsi
Ultra 160 Adaptec card (although it made no difference):-

basedev=daniatap.flt /v /EJ /A:1 /U:1 /RSJ /SCSI
I should add that the dani utilities confirm these Dani related
settings are working correctly.!

One suggestion on the newsgroups was to put the line 
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q
after the RSJ software.  This made no difference at all.

I have NOT remmed out the BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT as 
RSJ will not even try and work without it.
The only RSJ line I have remmed out is:-
rem BASEDEV=RSJIDECD.FLT
And it made no difference with it activated either.
All other settings where as made by the RSJ installation.

I now have one drive icon for the same drive as a cd reader 
or dvd reader and a separate drive letter appears when the
RSJ software "attaches" the drive as a CDR/CDRW.

I can write a very small text file to the CDR blank but not to a
CDRW blank. And I cannot write any large files or whole directories
to a CDR or a CDRW blank at all.!

Too bad it is unreliable and unusable as a CDR/CDRW burner.
Works 100% as a dvd reader or cd reader though.  Sigh.


Perhaps RSJ will bring out a new version soon (I hope).!
I don't think they have written anything into their software
to support CDRW/DVD readers yet.  Hope I am wrong though. :-)

Any meaningful suggestions.?


Regards,
BobT.




   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratoptusnet dot com dot au
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 18:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paulatsmedley.info>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator

Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec :)

On Fri, 05 Jul 2002 23:56:45 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote:

>>if you run RC56 Bovine client, you'll see the difference easily.
>
>PIII-450 1.26Mkey
>Celeron-500  1.28Mkey
>PIII-500 1.40Mkey
>PIII-600 1.67Mkey
>PIII-650 1.81Mkey
>Mac G4 400Mhz = 3.95Mkey
>
>:-)
>
>Cheers
>Ian B Manners
>http://www.os2site dot com/
>
>All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?

> 



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Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 21:33:35 +1000
From:  "voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:36:36, Voytek Eymont wrote:

MGhz    result   res/freq 
450	1.26	28
C500	1.28	25.6
500	1.4	28
600	1.67	27.83
650	1.81	27.84

Mac400	3.95	98.75
		
300	0.8	26.66

Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec :)   27






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Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:39:47 -0400 (EDT)
From:  "Richard R. Pufky" <rpufky1atrochester.rr dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ.

On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 15:08:22 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:
> [snip problems with DVD-CDRW drive]
>Any meaningful suggestions.?

Have you attempted to use CDRecord at all? I've found that CDRecord
works in many situations that RSJ does not... might be worth a shot
(Although, I do know that RSJ is a very nice piece of software).

If you need help getting it to work, just ask.
Rick

-- 
Check out the pictures of my baby girl!
http://brennor.dyndns dot org/Daphne

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Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:04:44 -0400 (EDT)
From:  "Richard R. Pufky" <rpufky1atrochester.rr dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator

On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 21:33:35 +1000, voytek wrote:
>MGhz    result   res/freq 
>450	1.26	28
>C500	1.28	25.6
>500	1.4	28
>600	1.67	27.83
>650	1.81	27.84
>
>Mac400	3.95	98.75
>		
>300	0.8	26.66
>
>Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec :)   27

Not quite right. The K7 XP 2000+ actually runs at 1.67 GHz. Since all
of your other comparisons are by MHz, this one should be too.
Makes the K7 look like it should too! (It is quite a bit faster than
all the other x86 chips).

Athlon XP 2000+    5.40 Mkey/sec    32.39

And, just for comparison, a P4 2GHz (Northwood) can give you 2.878
Mkey/sec, for a whopping res/freq rate of 14.39 (boy! that was pretty
tough to find through google...).

According to this page, a P4 runs the client the same way a Pentium
does:
<http://n0cgi.distributed dot net/faq/cache/264.html>

Also, according to this page, the K7 is the second fastest chip at RC5,
behind the PowerPC (although, I don't see the Alpha in this roundup
either!).

Rick

-- 
Check out the pictures of my baby girl!
http://brennor.dyndns dot org/Daphne

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Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:26:29 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ.

Hi Rick,

Yes, I have tried CDRecord thru the GUI interface provided by
CDRwiz.  While I have yet to have another go at it, now that
I have finally got the atapi system being recognised as scsi,
initially I discovered that the CDRwiz/CDRecord only enabled 
drive letters upto M:.  I need drive letters far beyond this.

My last partition is O: and zip  becomes Q:.
My CD readers are S: T:  with the cd/dvd reader as U:

As I have said, I have yet to revisit CDRecord but initial 
fiddling was not hopeful.  Naturally, I will rem out all the
RSJ bits before attempting to run CDRecord etc.

If you can give any pointers regarding CDRecord, I would
much appreciate it.  Initially I had trouble getting it to 
even load until Ian Manners gave me a zipped up file of his 
working system.  I used this to overwrite the CDRwiz 
one I installed and at least I can now get the options
up to check and play with settings etc.  

But until I can get a drive letter of at least V: I am shot.


I did not say this previously, but the CDRW/DVD reader is ok 
in win2k and windows 98se with either Nero 5.5 or Easy CD Creator 5.

Regards,
BobT.


On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:39:47 -0400 (EDT), Richard R. Pufky wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 15:08:22 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:
> > [snip problems with DVD-CDRW drive]
> >Any meaningful suggestions.?
> 
> Have you attempted to use CDRecord at all? I've found that CDRecord
> works in many situations that RSJ does not... might be worth a shot
> (Although, I do know that RSJ is a very nice piece of software).
> 
> If you need help getting it to work, just ask.
> Rick
> 
> -- 
> Check out the pictures of my baby girl!
> http://brennor.dyndns dot org/Daphne




   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratoptusnet dot com dot au
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Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:44:28 -0400 (EDT)
From:  "Richard R. Pufky" <rpufky1atrochester.rr dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ.

Hello,

On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:26:29 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:
>Yes, I have tried CDRecord thru the GUI interface provided by
>CDRwiz.  While I have yet to have another go at it, now that
>I have finally got the atapi system being recognised as scsi,
>initially I discovered that the CDRwiz/CDRecord only enabled 
>drive letters upto M:.  I need drive letters far beyond this.

Can't quite be true. I'm using T: as my burner letter. CDRecord works
for this. I'm currently using:
Cdrecord 1.11a05 (i386-pc-os2_emx) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg
Schilling
Of course, I've got sparse drive letters (I'm not using all of them
between A and T).

>If you can give any pointers regarding CDRecord, I would
>much appreciate it.  Initially I had trouble getting it to 
>even load until Ian Manners gave me a zipped up file of his 
>working system.  I used this to overwrite the CDRwiz 
>one I installed and at least I can now get the options
>up to check and play with settings etc.  

I'm leaving town in about 5 mins or so...
but, see what the report of cdrecord -scanbus gives you. That is the
biggest trick, I've found (and to get the right version of ASPIROUT).

This is the output I get:
scsibus0:
        0,0,0     0) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST39204LW       ' '0002' Disk
        0,1,0     1) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST318436LW      ' '0010' Disk
        0,2,0     2) *
        0,3,0     3) *
        0,4,0     4) *
        0,5,0     5) *
        0,6,0     6) *
        0,7,0     7) *
scsibus1:
        1,0,0   100) *
        1,1,0   101) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-32123S      ' 'XS0K' Removable
CD-ROM
        1,2,0   102) 'MATSHITA' 'CD-ROM CR-586   ' 'KS14' Removable
CD-ROM
        1,3,0   103) *
        1,4,0   104) *
        1,5,0   105) *
        1,6,0   106) *
        1,7,0   107) *

Got to go right now, but if you email back what you get, I'll respond
to it tomorrow.

HTH,
Rick

-- 
Check out the pictures of my baby girl!
http://brennor.dyndns dot org/Daphne

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Date:  Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:58:02 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Subject:  Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator

Hi Paul

>Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec :)

Wifes Mac G4 933Mhz = 9.63Mkey ;-)
Now, if I can only convert her from the Macs Rule
to Team Warped.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

recursive (ree 'cuhr siv) adj. - see recursive.
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