Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:00:40 +1100 (EDT)
Subject:   No. 29

Date:- 13 April 2001 - Black Good Friday 

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:31:16 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] And now for something you'll really like !

Hi Ed

>There is a new pair of EIDE drivers (6th. April 2001) from IBM,
>these may help ??

They didnt help :-(
I gave up and installed an Adaptec SCSI Card a while ago in this
PC, nothing like side stepping the problem :-)

> I think they may be on the IBM Alpha site and not got to the DDpack
>release stage yet. I'm pretty sure I picked them up from a link on
>voice.

I have copies in os2site dot com.

Thanks for the thought though, always appreciated.

Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:19:15 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] More info on 64M RAM

Hi Bennett

>Would you also use PRIORITY_DISK_IO=NO ?

If you have programs running in the background, (or minimised)
that require access to your disks with the same priority as your
foreground program, then set this to NO, if you want your
foreground program (the program in focus) to have priority
access to your disks, then set it to YES.

I have it set NO as a default on all my PC's.

I/O priority is set seperately to CPU priority.

>This would seem to make since if
>you were also using PRIORITY=ABSOLUTE.  I would love it if someone would
>put together a few examples of what CONFIG.SYS settings work best (and why
>they do) in different class systems for different working purposes.
>Something like (PII400 and UP) Fileserver, (PII400 and DOWN) Client
>Workstation, (P233MMX and DOWN) Internet GW and Webserver, etc.  I guess
>the amount of RAM and HD space would also play major factors as well.  The
>OS/2 CONFIG.SYS projects are good, but they invariably leave out "WHY" a
>setting works the way it does.  As the saying goes, a little knowledge goes
>a long way...

It does, I'm not volentering to do it, as I've made a few promises
laterly, and I really should get back to porting BIND v9.1.1 to OS/2,
now that I've finished setting up a PC purely for porting UNIX
software.

Oliver Poggensee has some good information on OS/2's config.sys

http://www.warpsite.de/en/index.htm

Config.sys Doco Project.

Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 06:15:05 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Swap file

I run a very stable and robust os2 network at the office. using Warp Serve for e 
business and several os2 warp 4.5 clients.... we have

1.	word processing (LAN Describe - remember that wonderful and stable 
programme?

2	Printing (TCP/IP) all printers

3	An accounting package (runs in an OS2/DOS window)

4	PMFAx (LAN)

all users log on and access their respective programmes from the network 
applications


my question...

how important thus is the swap file and its size on the server versus the clients and 
which is doing all the work 
 
by the way every machine is a Pentium 433  and 64 Meg RAM  and they all run very 
speedily...

Graham Norton FRACP
Neurologist

Smart Road Specialist Centre
Modbury SA 5092

61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
gnatsmart-road dot com dot au

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 06:20:49 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Printing

We print on the network using TCP/IP...

3 x dot matrix
2 x HP2100TN network printers
  

1	occasionally printing will appear to stop at the point that the job has been 
sent 99% to the spooler

2	occasionally esp fax printing, only the first page is printed.... have checked 
all the settings and these are OK... I stress this is intermittent and unprecticable...

3	It seems that the HP JetAdmin software for OS2 is not being improved or 
further supported?

4	we have discovered that by leavig the HP Jet admin software running 
(minimised) on the desktop, that the printing is better with less choking and spooler 
hiccups...

any one any comments and suggestions about these aspects?


Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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From: Trevor Clarke <TClarkeatslatergordon dot com dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Seeking advice
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:29:52 +1000

Hi y'all

I've recently purchased a Dual Processor slot 1 board and it has an AGP
slot.  I was wondering if any of you had opinions on what a good hi-res
video card would be with OS/2 (Ecs) support.  I basically don't want to fork
out lots of money on a card with tons of 3dfx ram and functionality which
the OS of course can't utilise and I'd hate to be stuck with 2nd grade
drivers. 

Any tales of painful or fruitful experiences would be greatly appreciated!
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From: tsqatchariot dot net dot au
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:30:07 +1100
Subject: [os2genau] And now for something you'll really like !

On 04/12/01 at 10:30 AM, "Ian Manners" <deadmail> said:

Thanks for all your responses guys.
I'm gunna sit down and have a long read :-))

->>The Question:
->>
->>Should I try to apply fp12 or fp15 ?

->Go for FP15, if that doesnt work, you can always restore
->the archive.

->>The money, or the gun !?!

->Live dangerously, take the gun, I'll go hide.

Chicken |-))))

Glenn.
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:20:28 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file

Hi Graham,
The only reason the swap-file is there is if the computer runs out of
physical RAM for the running applications.

It doesn't matter whether the machine is a workstation or a server:- if
it runs out of physical RAM it uses the swap-file to simulate RAM.

If the swap file has to grow in size, there is a performance hit whilst
it is doing it, that is why I usually set mine to 40MB with config.sys
of:

SWAPPATH=D:\ 40960 4096

There is a performance hit having too big an initial swapfile, as the OS
tracks memory structures in the swapfile.

There is a performance benefit in running with no swapfile, but don't
run out of physical RAM!!!!
In config.sys put:
MEMMAN=NOSWAP

Something like a server with 64MB RAM which is running a fixed number of
programs, you could probably get away with no swapfile, set swappath to:

SWAPPATH=D:\ 1024 40960

Reboot & see if d:\swapper.dat grows at bootup, if not, put in:

MEMMAN=NOSWAP

Then reboot. If the machine starts, now check the amount of memory
usage, with NetFinity or some other memory tool. Remember, if you
machine runs out of physical RAM you are in a poo!

Ian Manners, perhaps you could articulate this a bit better?

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> I run a very stable and robust os2 network at the office.
>
SNIP 
>
> my question...
> 
> how important thus is the swap file and its size on the server versus the clients and
> which is doing all the work
> 
> by the way every machine is a Pentium 433  and 64 Meg RAM  and they all run very
> speedily...
> 
> Graham Norton FRACP
> Neurologist
> 
> Smart Road Specialist Centre
> Modbury SA 5092
> 
> 61 8 8265 4022  (Voice)
> 61 8 8386 1795 (Fax)
> gnatsmart-road dot com dot au
> 

-- 
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:27:23 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

Hi Graham,
The HP JetAdmin software is no longer supported by HP.
They suggest printing using lprportd, as I know you are for the
dot-matrix printers.

The reason is the JetDirect interfaces on the HP2100TN run a mini-web
server for controlling the printers, making JetAdmin obsolete.

point your browser at:

http://192.168.1.xxx

xxx = IP number of your HP2100TN.

Your printing problems are a verion issue with TCP/IP applications, in
your case, lprportd.

They will be fixed by doing the following:

Go to FixPak 15 for the base OS & Device Driver 2 FixPak.

You then need to update MPTS, in the correct order:

MPTS WR08610
(IBM)
MPTS WR08621
(IBM)
TCP/IP 4.21 Applications fix UN_2101
(http://www.warpupdates.de)
Fix ic27255.exe
(http://www.warpupdates.de)

Installed in the above order.

The above is explained at:
http://www.warpupdates.de
Follow the upgrade instructions to the letter.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> We print on the network using TCP/IP...
> 
> 3 x dot matrix
> 2 x HP2100TN network printers
> 
> 
> 1       occasionally printing will appear to stop at the point that the job has been
> sent 99% to the spooler
> 
> 2       occasionally esp fax printing, only the first page is printed.... have checked
> all the settings and these are OK... I stress this is intermittent and unprecticable...
> 
> 3       It seems that the HP JetAdmin software for OS2 is not being improved or
> further supported?
> 
> 4       we have discovered that by leavig the HP Jet admin software running
> (minimised) on the desktop, that the printing is better with less choking and spooler
> hiccups...
> 
> any one any comments and suggestions about these aspects?
> 
> Graham Norton
> Neurologist
> 
> "when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
> when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"
> 
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Subject: Re: [os2genau] Seeking advice
From: "Craig Brookes" <brookesatau1.ibm dot com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:23:52 +1000



> I've recently purchased a Dual Processor slot 1 board and it has an AGP
> slot.  I was wondering if any of you had opinions on what a good hi-res
> video card would be with OS/2 (Ecs) support.

Hi.  I was running an ELSA Gloria Synergy 8M AGP for a couple of years.
This card uses the Permedia2 chipset.  I purchased this just before ELSA
announced dropping of OS/2 support.  The drivers for the video were good
and stable.  I ran it at 1280x1024x65k most of the time.  After I purchased
the card I discovered that it did not support high-res VESA modes and did
not have a hardware linear frame buffer.  This meant that any DOS games
like Quake, Mechwarrior II, etc, would not run on this card properly.  A
lot of other more basic DOS games were ok and would run in a DOS fullscreen
session under OS/2, but for the serious DOS games I would have to boot to
real mode DOS and use the VGA BIOS switch to change to the PCI bus, instead
of the AGP bus, where I had a Matrox Millennium installed.  This was
annoying, having to do the BIOS switch, but I was going to have to boot to
DOS for these serious games anyway, to get peripherals like joystick,
steering wheel, pedals, etc, working properly.  I have a 3Dfx card plugged
inline with the Matrox, which some of the games use.

The video capture feature never really worked to my satisfaction.  The
video capture drivers were v1.00 and were never developed further.  When
monitoring input from a video camera the small picture was very jerky with
a slow framerate (PIII 500Mhz CPU).  The capture sort of worked, but I
could never get capture to work with either intel indeo or ultimotion
compression, so the captured AVIs were very large and playback was flakey
and jerky.  This compression problem could have been due to my MMOS2
configuration being dirty due to old age and different drivers installed
over time.  I may attempt some more experiments on a clean install oneday
in the future.  Does anyone have any experience, or success, with ELSA
video capture?

The normal AVI, MOV, MPG, etc, playback was very nice due to the ELSA card
having hardware support for playback of video and x/y filtering (seemed to
smooth the picture quality).

Coincidentally, I have recently gotten hold of a secondhand dual
motherboard as well, cheap, as the AGP slot is stuffed.  I am running a PCI
Matrox Millennium so the ELSA card has been put aside with the replaced
motherboard.  When I build a system with that in, with a clean OS/2
install, I may attempt ELSA video capture again.  The dual board has 5 PCI
slots so I now have one free and will try a Haupage TV card for it's video
capture.

This ELSA card was lovely in OS/2, but was lacking in the video capture,
and VESA support for DOS games.  I made an incorrect choice as I assumed
that all cards supported VESA.

With the latest Matrox video drivers I noticed that some of the windows,
with a fixed size, and the ICONS, are larger in appearance than with the
ELSA card and drivers.  Does anyone know of any hidden Matrox settings to
reduce the size of these windows, and ICONS, etc?

If my dual board did work with AGP then I would probably look at a new
Matrox G400 AGP (or whatever it is) as their driver support seems good.

Regards,
Craig


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Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file
From: "Craig Brookes" <brookesatau1.ibm dot com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:04:58 +1000



> MEMMAN=NOSWAP
> usage, with NetFinity or some other memory tool. Remember, if you
> machine runs out of physical RAM you are in a poo!

I tried NOSWAP on my PC with 144Meg RAM and it was going ok for a little
while, but I was running Sysbar/2 monitor and it told me that only 16k of
RAM was available when Theseus said there was still 90Meg!!  When Sysbar/2
got to saying 0k, and Theseus showed 60Meg, OS/2 failed with an internal
processing error with LazyWrite: No memory available.  It was suggested
that Sysbar/2 was probably the cause.

I tried this again later, without any monitors at all, especially not
Sysbar/2, and after I had loaded up a number of applications, and Theseus
showed something like 30-40Meg RAM still available, OS/2 still failed with:

The system detected an internal processing error at
location ##1200:04aa - 0002:04aa
65535, 9051
LazyRead: No memory available
0586052c
Internal revision 14.062_W4

I didn't run out of RAM according to Theseus, but something certainly
didn't like the NOSWAP setting.

Craig


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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:30:46 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file

Hi Craig

>I tried NOSWAP on my PC with 144Meg RAM and it was going ok for a little
>while, but I was running Sysbar/2 monitor and it told me that only 16k of
>RAM was available when Theseus said there was still 90Meg!!  When Sysbar/2
>got to saying 0k, and Theseus showed 60Meg, OS/2 failed with an internal
>processing error with LazyWrite: No memory available.  It was suggested
>that Sysbar/2 was probably the cause.

Did you use :-
MEMMAN=NoSwap, protect


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:13:35 +0900 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] For Sale (preferably to Windows users)

Hi everyone!

For Sale (within Australia, probably Victoria<g>):

Hardware
1. Printer Ribbons:
Epson 4 x LX-80 cartridges originally paid $5 ea; sell for $3 ea
Panasonic 1 x KX-P1090/1110/1115/1145 cartridge originally $9; sell
for $5

2. Impact Printer Citizen HQP-45 
Wide carriage, Epson emulation, letter quality complete with 5
ribbons, power and data cables $50 the lot

3. Laptop Combo Card
Netcomm CardModem56 PCMCIA card; fax/modem and network connection
with all accessories in original box original cost approx $200; sell
for $100 

Software
4. McAfee Uninstaller on CD-Rom for Win95/Win-NT. Never used, still
shrink-wrapped (came as a "free add-on" valued at $75); sell for $25 

All hardware working, ribbons unused. Will separate. No GST to worry
about

John Angelico 
Phone (03) 9544 8792
Mount Waverley VIC
talldadatkepl dot com dot au


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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:59:29 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautatvillage.uunet.be>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file



Craig Brookes schreef:

> > MEMMAN=NOSWAP
> > usage, with NetFinity or some other memory tool. Remember, if you
> > machine runs out of physical RAM you are in a poo!
>
> I tried NOSWAP on my PC with 144Meg RAM and it was going ok for a little
> while, but I was running Sysbar/2 monitor and it told me that only 16k of
> RAM was available when Theseus said there was still 90Meg!!

Sysbar/2 and most of these tools rely on the existence of a swapper.dat to "calculate" free
memory. That just isn't goof enough.


> processing error with LazyWrite: No memory available.  It was suggested
> that Sysbar/2 was probably the cause.
>

Quite right.


>
> I tried this again later, without any monitors at all, especially not
> Sysbar/2, and after I had loaded up a number of applications, and Theseus
> showed something like 30-40Meg RAM still available, OS/2 still failed with:
>

If Theseus only shows 30-40 Mb of Ram available, indeed, you can't afford to work with
"memman=NoSwap". In my experience this is safe only from 256 Mb of Ram on.



>
> The system detected an internal processing error at
> location ##1200:04aa - 0002:04aa
> 65535, 9051
> LazyRead: No memory available
> 0586052c
> Internal revision 14.062_W4
>
> I didn't run out of RAM according to Theseus, but something certainly
> didn't like the NOSWAP setting.
>
> Craig
>
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   Kris



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Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file
From: "Craig Brookes" <brookesatau1.ibm dot com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:57:18 +1000



> Did you use :-
> MEMMAN=NoSwap, protect

Yes:

MEMMAN=NOSWAP,PROTECT

I will be more exact next time... :-)

Craig


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Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file
From: "Craig Brookes" <brookesatau1.ibm dot com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:02:27 +1000



Hi Kris.

> If Theseus only shows 30-40 Mb of Ram available, indeed, you can't afford
to work with
> "memman=NoSwap". In my experience this is safe only from 256 Mb of Ram
on.

So in your experience OS/2 will not just give me a message about 'not
enough memory', but could fall over with an error like:
>
> The system detected an internal processing error at
> location ##1200:04aa - 0002:04aa
> 65535, 9051
> LazyRead: No memory available
> 0586052c
> Internal revision 14.062_W4

Anyway, I'm back on SWAP,PROTECT with a 64Meg swapper.

Craig


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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:55:32 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] OS/2 Developments

Here's an extract from the IBM e-business newsletter:

               Operating Systems
                -----------------

IBM Web Browser for OS/2 Supports
Deploying New Java and Web Technologies

 http://www.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/browser/

  IBM Web Browser for OS/2* provides the latest Web
  browser support for OS/2 and WorkSpace OnDemand*,
  and supports deployment of new Java and Web
  technologies. Based on Netscape** 6.01, it offers
  integrated tools for e-mail, newsgroup access, and
  Web page creation. IBM Web Browser for OS/2 is
  available to subscribers of IBM Software Choice.
  (Also see next item)

More OS/2 Features to Come in 2001

 http://www.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/swchoice/

  IBM intends to deliver more OS/2 features in 2001
  via the IBM Software Choice subscription service.
  The features include TCP/IP 4.3.1; Primary Logon
  Client 4.4; and IBM HTTP Server for OS/2.

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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:06:00 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Seeking advice

I have heard good things about TNT2 based cards, however I personally
haven't ventured into the realms of hi-resolution graphics cards for
some time. As these are not the very.very latest thing, I believe
they are relatively reasonably priced as well.

Ed.

Trevor Clarke wrote:
> 
> Hi y'all
> 
 I was wondering if any of you had opinions on what a good hi-res
> video card would be with OS/2 (Ecs) support.

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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:15:46 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file

How many other people spotted Daryl's error in the SWAPPATH line ??

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham,
> If the swap file has to grow in size, there is a performance hit whilst
> it is doing it, that is why I usually set mine to 40MB with config.sys
> of:
> 
> SWAPPATH=D:\ 40960 4096
> 


This would infact allocate an initial file of 4 MB and then increments
of
40MB when more swapper space is needed.  The initial size is thre second
parameter.

Ed.

19================================================

From: "Paul Smedley" <paulsmedleyatone dot net dot au>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:54:06 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Seeking advice

My TNT2-M64  works great with SDD/2 - very affordable now too for a 32mb card that 
provides pretty damn good 3d performance over on the dark side too!

Regards,

Paul.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:06:00 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>I have heard good things about TNT2 based cards, however I personally
>haven't ventured into the realms of hi-resolution graphics cards for
>some time. As these are not the very.very latest thing, I believe
>they are relatively reasonably priced as well.


20================================================

From: "Peter Rehfisch" <gillpeteatvic.australis dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:27:52 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PCI Network cards


I have recently purchased a Compex ReadyLINK RE100TX PCI network card, and I 
am trying to get it running in my OS/2 server (running Lantastic for OS/2, but I cannot 
configure it so that a DOS workstation running Lantastic 6.0 can access the server.

I know I am doing things right because the server can access drives and printers on the 
workstation, and the workstation can see the server  (NET SHOW on the workstation 
produces the comment  "SERVER \\UPSTAIRS    is available on adapter 0").
But a log on attempt to the server fails with the message  "SERVER \\UPSTAIRS is not 
listening".

What do I need to do to make it listen, or is there a compatability problem?

I have the line 
DEVICE=E:\LANTASTI\OS2\RE100.OS2
in the config.sys file.

In the protocol.ini file I have
Bindings = RE100_NIF
in the  [AI-NDIS_nif]  section, and the relevant lines in the [RE100_NIF] section.

I have the same problem if I substitute a Realtek 8029 card and drivers, but I believe 
they use the same chip.

All the while my Intel Etherexpress16 ISA card works fine.

Hoping for your help.

Peter Rehfisch



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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:40:58 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file

Hi Craig

>So in your experience OS/2 will not just give me a message about 'not
>enough memory', but could fall over with an error like:

I havent used OS/2 with no swap file and less than 256Mb RAM but
it looks like you are using all your RAM

>> The system detected an internal processing error at
>> location ##1200:04aa - 0002:04aa
>> 65535, 9051
>> LazyRead: No memory available
>> 0586052c
>> Internal revision 14.062_W4

Yes, Kris is right on this, you do need a swap file.

>Anyway, I'm back on SWAP,PROTECT with a 64Meg swapper.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

22================================================

Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:40:04 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file

Ha Ha, just checking if anybody was awake:- really!
Its OK, I'm really good with servers, honest, truly...

Well-spotted, Ed.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> How many other people spotted Daryl's error in the SWAPPATH line ??
> 
> Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> >
> > Hi Graham,
> > If the swap file has to grow in size, there is a performance hit whilst
> > it is doing it, that is why I usually set mine to 40MB with config.sys
> > of:
> >
> > SWAPPATH=D:\ 40960 4096
> >
> 
> This would infact allocate an initial file of 4 MB and then increments
> of
> 40MB when more swapper space is needed.  The initial size is thre second
> parameter.
> 
> Ed.
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Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:11:42 +0930
From: Greg Hicks <ghicksatihug dot com dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Hip Hop Happy Easter

Just wishing all OS/2 Users a happy and safe easter,

this message is brought to you by the numbers 0 and 1 and the letters I B M

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:47:36 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file

Hi Craig

One other thing to keep in mind, if you are using a swapfile,
dont forget that a lot of DLL's and dormant code is stored in
the swap file, so if you set your system up to NOT use a
swap file, it is normal for more RAM to be used.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:51:18 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file

Hi Ed

>How many other people spotted Daryl's error in the SWAPPATH line ??

>> SWAPPATH=D:\ 40960 4096

Gee, now that you bring "our" attention to it :-)

40960 = the max size of the swap file in the negative, ie, will grow
until there is only 40Mb free on the HD, problem I see with that is
I thought the max was 32xxx something.

Unless the parameters have changed recently, the swap file
will ignore this value, and use the default anyway, ie, grow
in size in 4Mb chunks until about 4Mb is left free on the
harddisk (if it needs that much)

It definitly will not start with a 40Mb swap file :-)

4096 = starting size of the swap file, 4Mb ok, I also normally
keep swap files in a directory called SP but I see no reason to
store it in a root directory, I just like being neat.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:46:35 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 Developments

Ed Durrant wrote:

>   IBM intends to deliver more OS/2 features in 2001 via the IBM Software Choice
> subscription service. The features include TCP/IP 4.3.1; Primary Logon Client 4.4; and
> IBM HTTP Server for OS/2.

And we keep hearing that OS/2 is dead!!
--
Leigh Bunting
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South Australia
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:53:19 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file

Craig Brookes wrote:

> I didn't run out of RAM according to Theseus, but something certainly
> didn't like the NOSWAP setting.

Have you tried a program called "allocmem.exe", which prunes all the dead wood out of
memory. I was running it in my start up folder and would gain some 10-15Mb on 64Mb of
memory at the time. Now that I have 256Mb, I don't worry about it.

Could be worth a try.

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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:01:38 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautatvillage.uunet.be>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap file



Craig Brookes schreef:

> Hi Kris.
>
> > If Theseus only shows 30-40 Mb of Ram available, indeed, you can't afford
> to work with
> > "memman=NoSwap". In my experience this is safe only from 256 Mb of Ram
> on.
>
> So in your experience OS/2 will not just give me a message about 'not
> enough memory', but could fall over with an error like:
> >
> > The system detected an internal processing error at
> > location ##1200:04aa - 0002:04aa
> > 65535, 9051
> > LazyRead: No memory available
> > 0586052c
> > Internal revision 14.062_W4
>

I only had error messages about not enough of memory ( but it's hpfs386 here) So it could
well be cache.exe was complaining. After all, 2 Mb of memory cache isn't good enough on
today's systems. Did anyone tell you already how to go hpfs386? Would make a lot of
difference.


--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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