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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:59:37 +0900 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Won't install: Latest NS and PMView was: June, 2001 refresh of Netscape 4.61

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:43:37 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

><NS_FOLDER> is almost certainly the Folder object for Netscape.
>
>Somewhere in your system this object exists and is probably 
>somehow marked as non-deletable.
>
>If the install procedure uses Rexx, you could simply go in and change 
>the object name to something different but this could cause problems
>later when either this or a later install was looking to put other
>objects
>in it. It's a couple (probably closer to 6 or 7) years since I played
>around in this area of REXX and Desktop but I'm pretty sure RXUTILS.DLL
>will have a call in it, to let you track down the "rougue" <NS_FOLDER>
>if you're not afraid of coding a few lines in REXX.
>
>Cheers/2
>Ed.
>
and Bob Traynor wrote:

>Have a look in your folders on the desktop for any other, originally
>installed, netscape folders that may have been dragged off the
>desktop and into a sub folder.
>
>From the command line zip up the folder (if you found it)
>and move the file elsewhere as a backup.
>
>Also, backup the whole desktop etc. I assume you still use Deskbak.
>
>Then delete the Netscape folder. [Do NOT un-install.!]

I've finally got back to check out this problem.

Here's the exact error message (found the Install Log, finally)
2001/07/10 15:10:47.12  EPFIE234: Cannot create the 'Netscape
Communicator 4.61' object on the Workplace Shell.  The setup string
parameter was 'OBJECTID=<NS46_FOLDER>;'.

Never mind the slight difference in the name: I still haven't found
any such folder to delete. :( The only one I found was an old
Netscape 2 folder.
 
So now I am still lost.

Where would one find a useful explanation ofthe error code EPFIE234?




Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------

PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... Do not disturb. Already disturbed enough.

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:08:48 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing problem

Has it ever worked ??

Does it work under Windoze/DOS ??

What has changed since it worked ?

Cheers/2

Ed.

Leigh Bunting wrote:

> Ian Manners wrote:
>
> > Sounds like a bung printer cable.
>
> Booting while the printer is on makes the printer click and whir, and sounds sort of
> normal from that point of view.
>
> > Orrr, your using a Bi-Di driver with a standard LPT port.
>
> Stock standard warp 4 driver - and tried the current omni driver - same result. The
> printer is a Canon BJ200ex.
> --
> Leigh Bunting
> Colonel Light Gardens
> South Australia
> Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
> http://www.chariot dot net dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:11:43 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing problem

WHOA !!  Is this a printer LPT CARD ??? Not on-board ??
Or were you just going to take the card to test ??

Does the printer work from a DOS/OS/2 Command session -
Just type

    copy config.sys lpt1:

I've seen issues where command line works and not thru the GUI.
If this is the case, turn off the spooler and try again.

Can you boot from a Dos diskette and see if you can print ??

Cheers/2

Ed.


Leigh Bunting wrote:

> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> > Check for IRQ usage. If this is Warp 4 the default is NOT to use IRQ 7 or 5
> > for the printer, however if this is Warp 3 or the /IRQ switch has been added
> > to print01.sys in config.sys, the OS will use IRQ7 for LPT1 and IRQ5 for
> > LPT2. While you're checking this check what IO address is assigned.
> > Although 378 is normal (and what I would always set LPT1 to), 3BC (I think)
> > is also possible. also check the mode ECP/EPP/Basic, extended/bidirectional etc.
>
> BIOS is set to 378/irq7 and normal mode although rmview doesn't show anything using irq7
> (which is normal, I understand). It is Warp 4.
>
> > The other obious thing to check that the correct printer is in use.
>
> Affirm to that.
>
> > Third (and possibly most likely), this could be a hardware problem. The printer
> > cable, or the connector or socket at one or other end could be damaged.
>
> Same cable that was working up to Sunday night.
>
> However, I might take my printer, cable and an LPT card and try that, in case there is
> something funny with Allan's hardware.
>
> Thanks for yours and Ian's suggestions..
>
> Cheers,
> Leigh Bunting
> Colonel Light Gardens
> South Australia
> Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
> http://www.chariot dot net dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:16:53 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Won't install: Latest NS and PMView was: June, 2001 

Hi John,
  If you search Hobbes I think you'll find a package called wpsbkup (or
something like that). You can run this and it creates a text file of all objects
on your system. If you look through this text file, you should be able to
find the offending object and get some idea where it it. Have you checked
the maintenance desktop and if you've installed over the top, there will
be an object called previous desktop, either of these could contain the
object.

Cheers/2
Ed.

John Angelico wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:43:37 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> ><NS_FOLDER> is almost certainly the Folder object for Netscape.
> >
> >Somewhere in your system this object exists and is probably
> >somehow marked as non-deletable.
> >
> >If the install procedure uses Rexx, you could simply go in and change
> >the object name to something different but this could cause problems
> >later when either this or a later install was looking to put other
> >objects
> >in it. It's a couple (probably closer to 6 or 7) years since I played
> >around in this area of REXX and Desktop but I'm pretty sure RXUTILS.DLL
> >will have a call in it, to let you track down the "rougue" <NS_FOLDER>
> >if you're not afraid of coding a few lines in REXX.
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >Ed.
> >
> and Bob Traynor wrote:
>
> >Have a look in your folders on the desktop for any other, originally
> >installed, netscape folders that may have been dragged off the
> >desktop and into a sub folder.
> >
> >From the command line zip up the folder (if you found it)
> >and move the file elsewhere as a backup.
> >
> >Also, backup the whole desktop etc. I assume you still use Deskbak.
> >
> >Then delete the Netscape folder. [Do NOT un-install.!]
>
> I've finally got back to check out this problem.
>
> Here's the exact error message (found the Install Log, finally)
> 2001/07/10 15:10:47.12  EPFIE234: Cannot create the 'Netscape
> Communicator 4.61' object on the Workplace Shell.  The setup string
> parameter was 'OBJECTID=<NS46_FOLDER>;'.
>
> Never mind the slight difference in the name: I still haven't found
> any such folder to delete. :( The only one I found was an old
> Netscape 2 folder.
>
> So now I am still lost.
>
> Where would one find a useful explanation ofthe error code EPFIE234?
>
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG
> talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
> --------------------------------------------
>
> PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
> ... Do not disturb. Already disturbed enough.
>

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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:24:07 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PPPoE default route uses Peer-IP

Hi Ian & Bjarne,
Thankyou for your responses.

Irrespective of the route I use now:
Peer-IP
Local-IP

I am unable to get ftp to start a binary transfer on the gateway.
Intranet hosts work just fine.

Even using my original setup.cmd & gateway.cf which used to work with
the Local-IP, it still doesn't work.
This suggests iPrimus dot com dot au have changed their network environment in
the last 2 days.
I strongly suspect this has happened as there was an extended
iPrimus dot com dot au outage:
from:
UTC 2001-05-27 12:00
to:
UTC 2001-05-27 15:30

I strongly suspect a MTU problem.
Notice I have got mtudiscover=0 to reduce CPU load on the gateway.
I'm assuming IJF will sort this out for the gateway, since:
fragment=yes

Perhaps this is not the case, & I need mtudiscover=1?

Perhaps this is a bug with WR08621 & ic27255 which is TCP/IP v4.21?

Do you think I need to upgrade to TCP/IP v4.3?

Based on your advice, Ian, I have modified:
\ijf\gateway.cf
\mptn\bin\setup.cmd

MTU is set across the board to 1492 rather than 1454.
1454 was chosen as the iPrimus supplied, EnterNet v1.8 software forces
MTU 1454.
So I assumed iPrimus would do all their testing at this MTU.

This decision was made many months ago, & iPrimus' network may have
changed since.

Intranet hosts work much faster at 1492 & not forcing the loopback
interface MTU seems to speed things up too.

Ian, you suggested all lan interfaces should use the same MTU.
Why is this?
If PPPoE supports a maximum MTU=1492, wouldn't it be advantageous to
force this MTU on the intranet?
This would mean no packet reconstruction would be required on the
gateway, improving performance.
I am only running a P100 IBM 320 Server as the gateway.
Is packet reconstruction a CPU issue?
Would this be less of a performance hit if I put the gateway on a faster
box?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I imagine 1500 bit packets go up to the
ADSL bridge, even though the data payload can only be 1492, meaning I
shouldn't force the ADSL ethernet interface to MTU=1492.

APPENDIX:

\startup.cmd (unchanged)
*********************************************************
....
start /min "InJoy Firewall" /n gateway.exe -p60
....
*********************************************************

\mptn\bin\setup.20010626 (original)
*********************************************************
route -fh
arp -f
inetcfg -s synattack 1
inetcfg -s keepalive 120
inetcfg -s multidefrt 0
inetcfg -s mtudiscover 0
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
ifconfig lo mtu 1454
ifconfig lan0 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig lan0 mtu 1500
ifconfig lan1 192.168.1.200 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig lan1 mtu 1454
route add default 192.168.1.200
route change default -mtu 1454
ipgate on
*********************************************************

\ijf\gateway.20010626 (original)
*********************************************************
....
fragment=yes
MTU=1454
....
*********************************************************

\mptn\bin\setup.cmd (current)
*********************************************************
route -fh
arp -f
inetcfg -s synattack 1
inetcfg -s keepalive 120
inetcfg -s multidefrt 0
inetcfg -s mtudiscover 0
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
ifconfig lan0 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig lan1 192.168.1.200 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig lan1 mtu 1492
route add default 192.168.1.200
ipgate on
*********************************************************

\ijf\gateway.cf (current)
*********************************************************
....
fragment=yes
MTU=1492
....
*********************************************************

-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

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From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:40:16 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Won't install: Latest NS and PMView was: June, 2001 refresh of Netscape 4.61

Hi,
I hope you have better luck with "Wps Backup" than I have.
It bombs out on my system and is useless.

Wps Backup is very old and has not been updated at all and will probably
never be updated.
I have deleted it long ago from my hard disk.

On hobbes as:-
----------------------------------------------------------
wpsbk401.zip 
                 
WPS Backup v4.01, save/restore Workplace Shell desktop
1995/06/26     Compressed archive, 317.46Kb 
----------------------------------------------------------
I use Object Desktop v2.0 for Rexx file creation purposes.
It works ok so long as NO folder or object name has "&" in its title.

Regards,
BobT.


On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:16:53 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

> Hi John,
>   If you search Hobbes I think you'll find a package called wpsbkup (or
> something like that). You can run this and it creates a text file of all objects
> on your system. If you look through this text file, you should be able to
> find the offending object and get some idea where it it. Have you checked
> the maintenance desktop and if you've installed over the top, there will
> be an object called previous desktop, either of these could contain the
> object.
> 
> Cheers/2
> Ed.
> 
> John Angelico wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:43:37 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> >
> > ><NS_FOLDER> is almost certainly the Folder object for Netscape.
> > >
> > >Somewhere in your system this object exists and is probably
> > >somehow marked as non-deletable.
> > >
> > >If the install procedure uses Rexx, you could simply go in and change
> > >the object name to something different but this could cause problems
> > >later when either this or a later install was looking to put other
> > >objects
> > >in it. It's a couple (probably closer to 6 or 7) years since I played
> > >around in this area of REXX and Desktop but I'm pretty sure RXUTILS.DLL
> > >will have a call in it, to let you track down the "rougue" <NS_FOLDER>
> > >if you're not afraid of coding a few lines in REXX.
> > >
> > >Cheers/2
> > >Ed.
> > >
> > and Bob Traynor wrote:
> >
> > >Have a look in your folders on the desktop for any other, originally
> > >installed, netscape folders that may have been dragged off the
> > >desktop and into a sub folder.
> > >
> > >From the command line zip up the folder (if you found it)
> > >and move the file elsewhere as a backup.
> > >
> > >Also, backup the whole desktop etc. I assume you still use Deskbak.
> > >
> > >Then delete the Netscape folder. [Do NOT un-install.!]
> >
> > I've finally got back to check out this problem.
> >
> > Here's the exact error message (found the Install Log, finally)
> > 2001/07/10 15:10:47.12  EPFIE234: Cannot create the 'Netscape
> > Communicator 4.61' object on the Workplace Shell.  The setup string
> > parameter was 'OBJECTID=<NS46_FOLDER>;'.
> >
> > Never mind the slight difference in the name: I still haven't found
> > any such folder to delete. :( The only one I found was an old
> > Netscape 2 folder.
> >
> > So now I am still lost.
> >
> > Where would one find a useful explanation ofthe error code EPFIE234?
> >
> > Best regards
> > John Angelico
> > OS/2 SIG
> > talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
> > PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
> > ... Do not disturb. Already disturbed enough.
> >










   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 


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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 21:57:57 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <vh_gdnatinternode.on dot net>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing problem

Ed Durrant wrote:

> WHOA !!  Is this a printer LPT CARD ??? Not on-board ??
> Or were you just going to take the card to test ??

No I was just going to take a card to use, just in case it was the on-board port that had gone
on the blink.

> Does the printer work from a DOS/OS/2 Command session -
> Just type
>
>     copy config.sys lpt1:

Have just returned from Allan's and tried this with still none of the right noises from the
printer.

So that set me thinking that there really must be a hardware fault somewhere. I chose to try
another printer cable, then the above command and voila, the printer prints.

So something that I haven't seen before - the cable appears to have partly had the fritz.

So Allan and Ruth are very happy now that all is well. As it happens, Allan's son has said he
can have his old HP690C Deskjet. I see the omni driver lists this printer, so presume it
should work alright. I left the LPT card in his PC, so that he can have the two printers
working.

So thanks for all your suggestions.
--
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.chariot dot net dot au/~pknight/clghs/

