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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS [LONG posting!] : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
2  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS [LONG posting!] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS : Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
4  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
5  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Aussie ISP - WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS : Bruce <os2box at niclan.homeip dot net>
8  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS [Warning LONG posting] : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
9  Re:  Accessing Phone SDCard (WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS) [Warning LONG posting - shortened] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re:  Accessing Phone SDCard (WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS) [Warning LONG posting - shortened] : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
11  Re:  Accessing Phone SDCard (WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS) [Warning LONG posting - shortened] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
12  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS [Warning LONG posting] : Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
13  Re:  Aussie ISP - WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS : Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
14   [Fwd: Re: Senior Software Engineer C/C++ - Q4] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:26:27 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS [LONG posting!]

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Some idiot has written an article that may be of some interest to 
> Australian OS/2ers in this months Voice newsletter, here:
>
> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>
> Cheers/2
>
Hi Ed,

FWIW, I just happened to "buy" for $0 a Motorola RAZR V3x [3G with 2MP 
camera for stills & video - Streaming video etc.], and it has the same 
facilities for either using the PC as the source or the destination.
I was actually trying to buy a cheap digital still camera to take some 
shots of my systems to send to NRMA insurance [IAG], in connection with 
my claim under contents insurance, following the damage caused by the 
lightning strike and which had an associated fireball I knew nothing 
about, and which apparently travelled about 400 m up one of the roads in 
this "retirement" village, as well as taking a snap of a SCART [AKA 
Euro-AV connector - saves having separate bunch of cables for 
audio/video/S-video etc, allowing me to feed the output from my standard 
definition Set Top Box to two Sony VCRs, a 1999 SLV-T2000AS HiFi Dual 
deck with both Super VHS and Hi8, and also my 1983 SLC9E, [AU$1545 when 
nothing else on the market was over AU$450 - can go from 60x FF to 
single-frame reverse etc!!], but couldn't get anything that would take 
macro photos under about AU$500 - walked past "Crazy John's Mobile 
Phones - and just asked whether the cameras built-in to some of their 
mobiles could take a snap of the SCART item that was in my pocket - they 
demonstrated this with the phone I then "bought" on a $20/month plan 
which includes $15 free calls/month.

So far I have had trouble with the memory card in the phone - it's a 
64MB SanDisk Transflash [Micro SD RAM Card] only about 6mm long and 4mm 
wide. After the event I discovered that it was formatted with VFAT12, so 
that it has LFN support, but is much more space efficient than it would 
be if formatted FAT32 or VFAT16 -- Motorola provide an adapter that 
allows it to be inserted into a standard size SDRAM slot in any reader 
[I bought a 33-in-1 reader for AU$39.99 from Tandy Corp], and under 
OS/2-eCS I can see the entire contents but only as  8.3 directory|file 
names - the directory structure has the following setup:

    The volume label in drive K is Am.   [the A = 0x41 is the VFAT
    indicator - the "m" is the low byte of the Unicode name of the
    "Mobile" directory in the root (high byte is 0x00), which precedes
    the 8.3 name there!]
    The Volume Serial Number is 3532:3239.

    Directory of K:\

    MOBILE       <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    WP ROOT   SF      420  28/05/06  22:23
    EA DATA   SF    65536  22/05/06  18:27
            3 file(s)      65956 bytes used

    Directory of K:\MOBILE

    .            <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    ..           <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    PICTURE      <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    VIDEO        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    AUDIO        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    MIXEDM~1     <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] these 
    TEMP         <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
    LICENSES     <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
    PARTIAL      <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] and all lower
    EMAIL        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
    MMS          <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
    SETTINGS     <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] subdirectories
    SYSTEM       <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
    RINGTONE     <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] had attributes
    KJAVA        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
    CERTS        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
    MIB          <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] of "AHD" [hidden]
           17 file(s)          0 bytes used

    Directory of K:\MOBILE\PICTURE

    .            <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    ..           <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    21-05-~1 JPG   177411  21/05/06  13:53
    21-05-~2 JPG   114284  21/05/06  14:00
    22-05-~1 JPG   129104  22/05/06  11:37
    22-05-~2 JPG   174098  22/05/06  11:38
            6 file(s)     594897 bytes used

    Directory of K:\MOBILE\VIDEO

    .            <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    ..           <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    26-05-~1 3GP   413023  26/05/06  21:16
            3 file(s)     413023 bytes used

    Directory of K:\MOBILE\AUDIO

    .            <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
    ..           <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
            2 file(s)          0 bytes used
    Total files listed:
           31 file(s)       1073876 bytes used
                        59441152 bytes free

After reinserting into the phone the menu item showing details of the 
two Storage areas, Card & Phone [which has a separate 64MB flash memory] 
showed the 64MB Memory Card as:

Total:61632 Kb

Details

Label 64MBMICRO

Type: Card Space

--Free:58720 Kb
--Used:4135584 Kb [4GB!]
--Total:0.00 Kb***

"Kb" intended to mean "KiB"!
 
and it no longer allows me to save stills or video onto the card - makes 
the (default) shutter "click", but says "Media error" or "Unable to save 
Picture" - removing the Transflash card allows me again to save both 
onto the phone's memory - when a card is inserted it automatically 
becomes the default storage area!  Have had long conversations with tech 
support at Motorola and SanDisk, and latest information I was able to 
prise out of FAX & DATA support at Motorola was that it should work if 
formatted as FAT32 - about to try that out under W2KPro very shortly - 
hopefully that will work - meaning visible with LFN in OS/2-eCS also!

I had wiped the first 10MB of the card with DFSee, after examining it 
with the GU2.1's Diskedit utility.
DFSee sees the card as having a mismatch between the 476 x 8 x 63 [CHS 
in MBR] and the 59 x 64 x 32 in the primary partition DBR!

Following article was in the UK PC Advisor magazine - I am subscribed to 
their e-mail newsletter:
[from : http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279]


      Orange joins free broadband party


        Follows Vodafone's lead

    Nancy Gohring

    Orange <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#>
    today introduced an offering that gives free broadband
    <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#> service to
    its mobile subscribers in the UK, the second indication this week
    that mobile operators are using broadband as a way to retain customers.

    The announcement follows Vodafone's announcement yesterday that it
    will start offering broadband services to its mobile
    <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#> customers
    <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#>, first in
    Germany and then in other markets.

    Orange had said previously that it would combine its broadband and
    mobile services in the UK under the Orange brand. France Télécom
    owns both Orange and Wanadoo, the brand previously used for its
    broadband service
    <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#>.

    Only Orange customers who subscribe to a post-pay plan of £30 or
    more per month are eligible for the free broadband offering, which
    also includes a wireless modem and a VoIP (voice over IP) service.

    Mobile operators are keen for customers to switch to post-pay plans
    because they guarantee a certain level of revenue each month. This
    offering could help drive that migration, said John Delaney, an
    analyst with Ovum.

    Subscribers must also commit to an 18-month contract, so the deal
    may also be aimed at retaining customers. "The idea behind it may be
    for Orange to try to reduce customer churn or improve customer
    loyalty," said Martin Gutbertlet, an analyst at Gartner.

    Customer retention was also behind Vodafone's broadband
    announcement. "The new reality is that competition is intensifying,"
    Arun Sarin, Vodafone's CEO, said yesterday.

    Even though Orange and Vodafone are pursuing the bundled strategy,
    other mobile operators may not follow suit. Judging from past
    comments and overall strategies, O2 and T-Mobile are unlikely to
    start offering broadband services, Gutbertlet said.

BTW I was using a USB2 connection from my ISDN modem to the PC for the 
last few months prior to being able to have ADSL - I had used the /COM:5 
switch on usbcom - also under InJoy Dialer 2.30/3.03 [last free update] 
- but as eCSCoNet also works with ISDN/ADSL [European ISDN up to 
8Mbps!], I wonder whether you wouldn't get a much better rate with that 
than InJoy?

For a laugh - one of the IAG "preferred" supppliers was going to provide 
me with a 73GB 10K rpm SCSI drive [80-pin = SCA], and an Adaptec 
AHA-2930U [50-pin!!!!] HBA to replace my AHA-29160, as part of a 
complete system replacement!!

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:34:00 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS [LONG posting!]

Mike O'Connor wrote:

>>
> Hi Ed,

   Hi Mike
> 
> FWIW, I just happened to "buy" for $0 a Motorola RAZR V3x [3G with 2MP 
> camera for stills & video - Streaming video etc.], and it has the same 
> facilities for either using the PC as the source or the destination.
> I was actually trying to buy a cheap digital still camera to take some 
> shots of my systems to send to NRMA insurance [IAG], in connection with 
> my claim under contents insurance,

> So far I have had trouble with the memory card in the phone - it's a 
> 64MB SanDisk Transflash [Micro SD RAM Card] only about 6mm long and 4mm 
> wide. After the event I discovered that it was formatted with VFAT12, so 
> that it has LFN support, but is much more space efficient than it would 
> be if formatted FAT32 or VFAT16 -- Motorola provide an adapter that 
> allows it to be inserted into a standard size SDRAM slot in any reader 
> [I bought a 33-in-1 reader for AU$39.99 from Tandy Corp], and under 
> OS/2-eCS I can see the entire contents but only as  8.3 directory|file 
> names - the directory structure has the following setup:

The U8330 does not take any memory card and only relies on internal memory.

My article (and my tests so far) have only been related to using the 
Mobile Internet connectivity - not accessing any internal storage a la 
digital camera - this does appear to have some "special" formatting.

Nick from WA also knows someone with access to Motorola 3G phones - 
it'll be interesting to see how he proceeds.


> 
>    The volume label in drive K is Am.   [the A = 0x41 is the VFAT
>    indicator - the "m" is the low byte of the Unicode name of the
>    "Mobile" directory in the root (high byte is 0x00), which precedes
>    the 8.3 name there!]
>    The Volume Serial Number is 3532:3239.
> 
>    Directory of K:\
> 
>    MOBILE       <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    WP ROOT   SF      420  28/05/06  22:23
>    EA DATA   SF    65536  22/05/06  18:27
>            3 file(s)      65956 bytes used
> 
>    Directory of K:\MOBILE
> 
>    .            <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    ..           <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    PICTURE      <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    VIDEO        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    AUDIO        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    MIXEDM~1     <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] these    TEMP         
> <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
>    LICENSES     <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
>    PARTIAL      <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] and all lower
>    EMAIL        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
>    MMS          <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
>    SETTINGS     <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] subdirectories
>    SYSTEM       <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
>    RINGTONE     <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] had attributes
>    KJAVA        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
>    CERTS        <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ]
>    MIB          <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51 ] of "AHD" [hidden]
>           17 file(s)          0 bytes used
> 
>    Directory of K:\MOBILE\PICTURE
> 
>    .            <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    ..           <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    21-05-~1 JPG   177411  21/05/06  13:53
>    21-05-~2 JPG   114284  21/05/06  14:00
>    22-05-~1 JPG   129104  22/05/06  11:37
>    22-05-~2 JPG   174098  22/05/06  11:38
>            6 file(s)     594897 bytes used
> 
>    Directory of K:\MOBILE\VIDEO
> 
>    .            <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    ..           <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    26-05-~1 3GP   413023  26/05/06  21:16
>            3 file(s)     413023 bytes used
> 
>    Directory of K:\MOBILE\AUDIO
> 
>    .            <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>    ..           <DIR>     20/05/99  13:51
>            2 file(s)          0 bytes used
>    Total files listed:
>           31 file(s)       1073876 bytes used
>                        59441152 bytes free
> 
> After reinserting into the phone the menu item showing details of the 
> two Storage areas, Card & Phone [which has a separate 64MB flash memory] 
> showed the 64MB Memory Card as:
> 
> Total:61632 Kb
> 
> Details
> 
> Label 64MBMICRO
> 
> Type: Card Space
> 
> --Free:58720 Kb
> --Used:4135584 Kb [4GB!]
> --Total:0.00 Kb***
> 
> "Kb" intended to mean "KiB"!

Kb is (as I guess you know) Kilo bits  not Kilo Bytes.

Sounds to me like the card needs re-formatting - does the phone/camera 
not have this capability ?? I think you'll have to do it in the device, 
not from the PC unless some software was supplied with the phone, 
specifically for the purpose. The WP Root and EA Data items displayed 
must have been put there by OS/2 or eCS and that could be why it becomes 
unhappy as described below:

> 
> and it no longer allows me to save stills or video onto the card - makes 
> the (default) shutter "click", but says "Media error" or "Unable to save 
> Picture" - removing the Transflash card allows me again to save both 
> onto the phone's memory - when a card is inserted it automatically 
> becomes the default storage area!  

Orange and Three in Australia are now joined, they are different 
companies to the same named companies in the UK and if you say France 
Telecom own Orange, that's strange as I thought Hutchinson owned then 
all ! So I guess France telecom franchised the name and now Hutchinson 
are pulling its companies back in together in the UK in a similar way to 
what has happened here in Australia.

> 
>      Orange joins free broadband party
> 
> 
>        Follows Vodafone's lead
> 
>    Nancy Gohring
> 
>    Orange <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#>
>    today introduced an offering that gives free broadband
>    <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#> service to
>    its mobile subscribers in the UK, the second indication this week
>    that mobile operators are using broadband as a way to retain customers.
> 
>    The announcement follows Vodafone's announcement yesterday that it
>    will start offering broadband services to its mobile
>    <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#> customers
>    <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#>, first in
>    Germany and then in other markets.
> 
>    Orange had said previously that it would combine its broadband and
>    mobile services in the UK under the Orange brand. France Télécom
>    owns both Orange and Wanadoo, the brand previously used for its
>    broadband service
>    <http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=6279#>.
> 
>    Only Orange customers who subscribe to a post-pay plan of £30 or
>    more per month are eligible for the free broadband offering, which
>    also includes a wireless modem and a VoIP (voice over IP) service.
> 
>    Mobile operators are keen for customers to switch to post-pay plans
>    because they guarantee a certain level of revenue each month. This
>    offering could help drive that migration, said John Delaney, an
>    analyst with Ovum.
> 
>    Subscribers must also commit to an 18-month contract, so the deal
>    may also be aimed at retaining customers. "The idea behind it may be
>    for Orange to try to reduce customer churn or improve customer
>    loyalty," said Martin Gutbertlet, an analyst at Gartner.
> 
>    Customer retention was also behind Vodafone's broadband
>    announcement. "The new reality is that competition is intensifying,"
>    Arun Sarin, Vodafone's CEO, said yesterday.
> 
>    Even though Orange and Vodafone are pursuing the bundled strategy,
>    other mobile operators may not follow suit. Judging from past
>    comments and overall strategies, O2 and T-Mobile are unlikely to
>    start offering broadband services, Gutbertlet said.
> 

I don't expect free Mobile Broadband soon in Australia - there's still 
lots of money to be made out of it and not that much competition.

> BTW I was using a USB2 connection from my ISDN modem to the PC for the 
> last few months prior to being able to have ADSL - I had used the /COM:5 
> switch on usbcom - also under InJoy Dialer 2.30/3.03 [last free update] 
> - but as eCSCoNet also works with ISDN/ADSL [European ISDN up to 
> 8Mbps!], I wonder whether you wouldn't get a much better rate with that 
> than InJoy?
> 
    Simple reasoning - eCSCoNet only comes with eComstation, where INJoy 
is available for both OS/2 and eCS in one version, for free. I have also 
seen Injoy under load - it works VERY WELL - I would suspect that Injoy 
will be quicker than eCSoNet - the limiting factor is more likely to be 
the speed possible across the USB connection and of course the service 
speed, though the phone being far less than 8Mb/s it doesn't really matter !

   As I said in the article, other PPP dialers should be able to be used 
if the user has a different preference.


> For a laugh - one of the IAG "preferred" supppliers was going to provide 
> me with a 73GB 10K rpm SCSI drive [80-pin = SCA], and an Adaptec 
> AHA-2930U [50-pin!!!!] HBA to replace my AHA-29160, as part of a 
> complete system replacement!!
> 

Are they also supplying the required 50-80 pin convertor dongle and 
appropriate cables ? Or do you now need an "interposer" ?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:37:43 +1000
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS

nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote:
> Hi Ed.
> 
> In <447E363E.9050008 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 06/01/2006 at 10:35 AM, Ed 
> Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:
> 
>> Some idiot has written an article that may be of some interest to 
>> Australian OS/2ers in this months Voice newsletter, here:
> 
>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
> 
> What a great article! I have a friend who works for Motorola, here in
>  W.A. I know he would be interested. Could I please pass it on? I 
> would send it to my sister who lives "up the road" from you, but I 
> don't think she would understand. :-)

Just a word of warning. I got the same offer from Orange, and went on to
an $18/month plan and got a Motorola RAZR V3x. (This commits me to a
24-month plan, but after that I have the option to transfer to another
provider if I want to. The other phones on offer required only a
12-month commitment, but for some unknown reason were not ever
transferable to another provider.) I noticed the option to use the phone
as a broadband modem, but in my opinion it was a bad deal except for a
very low-usage user. It looks very cheap, but people on the Broadband
Choice web site (a good place to visit if you want to compare
broadband providers) have repeatedly pointed out that any deal that
includes a "per MB" component can turn out to be very expensive, because
you use up those megabytes at a surprisingly high rate. Normally you
would be better off going for a deal with a fixed monthly charge and
either "unlimited downloads" or a system where your speed is reduced
each time you go over your monthly quota.

As for the built-in camera: I've managed to transfer files to an from a
Windows computer to the phone, but have had no luck so far with eCS. The
phone detects the USB connection but the computer doesn't. This probably
implies a file system for which I don't have a driver. I installed FAT32
last night, but it didn't help. However, I haven't explored this option
much so far - I'm not terribly interested in taking photos - so my
failure is not necessarily final. The next time I plug it into a Windows
machine I'll try to see what file system it is using (if I can work out
how to do that in Windows).

Slightly off-topic: I'll soon be searching for a new Broadband provider,
because my contract with Optus will soon expire. Actually, Optus has
turned out to be not too bad (except for their crappy crippled broadband
modem that needs resetting every few weeks to detect the new lease), so
I might first ask them whether they'll permit me to run servers. They
probably won't, in which case I'll make sure I let them know that that's
why I'm going to cancel the contract.  At the end of last year I had a
shortlist of providers that do permit servers, but things have probably
changed by now, so it'll be back to a long search through Broadband Choice.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at ozebelg dot org
                                       peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses.  The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer
reliably receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses.
The optusnet address still has about 2 months of life left.
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Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:54:53 +0930
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS

Hi Peter,

On 2/6/2006, "Peter Moylan" <peter at ozebelg dot org> wrote:

>Slightly off-topic: I'll soon be searching for a new Broadband provider,
>because my contract with Optus will soon expire. Actually, Optus has
>turned out to be not too bad (except for their crappy crippled broadband
>modem that needs resetting every few weeks to detect the new lease), so
>I might first ask them whether they'll permit me to run servers. They
>probably won't, in which case I'll make sure I let them know that that's
>why I'm going to cancel the contract.  At the end of last year I had a
>shortlist of providers that do permit servers, but things have probably
>changed by now, so it'll be back to a long search through Broadband Choice.

I'm with Internode and strongly recommend them to anyone who'll listen
:)

They have no problems with servers, provide plenty of added value, and
are actively rolling out ADSL2/2+ across Australia.

Cheers,

Paul.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:41:15 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS

Peter Moylan wrote:
> nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote:
>> Hi Ed.
>>
>> In <447E363E.9050008 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 06/01/2006 at 10:35 AM, Ed 
>> Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:
>>
>>> Some idiot has written an article that may be of some interest to 
>>> Australian OS/2ers in this months Voice newsletter, here:
>>
>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>
>> What a great article! I have a friend who works for Motorola, here in
>>  W.A. I know he would be interested. Could I please pass it on? I 
>> would send it to my sister who lives "up the road" from you, but I 
>> don't think she would understand. :-)
> 
> Just a word of warning. I got the same offer from Orange, and went on to
> an $18/month plan and got a Motorola RAZR V3x. (This commits me to a
> 24-month plan, but after that I have the option to transfer to another
> provider if I want to. The other phones on offer required only a
> 12-month commitment, but for some unknown reason were not ever
> transferable to another provider.) I noticed the option to use the phone
> as a broadband modem, but in my opinion it was a bad deal except for a
> very low-usage user. It looks very cheap, but people on the Broadband
> Choice web site (a good place to visit if you want to compare
> broadband providers) have repeatedly pointed out that any deal that
> includes a "per MB" component can turn out to be very expensive, because
> you use up those megabytes at a surprisingly high rate. Normally you
> would be better off going for a deal with a fixed monthly charge and
> either "unlimited downloads" or a system where your speed is reduced
> each time you go over your monthly quota.

As always, one should look at the various conditions of any plan that 
one takes up - in my case, this one saved me money. I don't expect to be 
a major user of mobile broadband hence both the normal phone (used 90% 
of the time to call others on the same network for free) and the 
broadband rates fit my needs.

I was more enthusiastic about the fact that the technology actually 
works under OS/2 and eCS using programs and drivers that we already have.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:56:50 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie ISP - WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS

Peter Moylan wrote:

> 
> Slightly off-topic: I'll soon be searching for a new Broadband provider,
> because my contract with Optus will soon expire. Actually, Optus has
> turned out to be not too bad (except for their crappy crippled broadband
> modem that needs resetting every few weeks to detect the new lease), so
> I might first ask them whether they'll permit me to run servers. They
> probably won't, in which case I'll make sure I let them know that that's
> why I'm going to cancel the contract.  At the end of last year I had a
> shortlist of providers that do permit servers, but things have probably
> changed by now, so it'll be back to a long search through Broadband Choice.
> 

Are you looking for a Cable connection or ADSL ?

If you are looking for cable (and don't mind switching TV providers as 
well), BigpondCable / Foxtel, allow you to run servers on their cable 
service. This service has recently been upgraded and now offers a 17Mb/s 
download and 512Kb/s upload "extreme" option. They are pretty price 
competitive with ADSL plans from other Telcos, which is a surprise !

If you're looking for ADSL, I would recommend Internode. I was very 
impressed with this company when I first met them in Adelaide supporting 
one of my customers' internet needs. They were competant, flexible and 
helpful.

I'm sure since they have grown from an Adelaide only company to have 
national coverage, there will have been some upset customers on one item 
or another, however everyone I have talked to who use them are very happy.

They were also the first to install ADSL2 in Australia, so they invest 
in technology to drive the market forwards.

As I am on an exchange that hasn't been and isn't planned to be, 
upgraded to ADSL2, I'm sticking to my Telstra Cable for now. It supports 
my internet needs, TV needs and cheap VOIP calls.


Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:08:17 +0800
From:  Bruce <os2box at niclan.homeip dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS


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Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS<br /> Date: 06/03/06
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New" size="2"><a href="mailto:nickl at pacific dot net dot au" target="_blank"
class="autolink">nickl at pacific dot net dot au</a> wrote:<br /> &gt; Hi Ed.<br />
&gt; <br /> &gt; In &lt;447E363E.9050008 at bigpond dot net dot au&gt;, on 06/01/2006
at 10:35 AM, Ed <br /> &gt; Durrant &lt;edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au&gt; said:<br
/> &gt; <br /> &gt;&gt; Some idiot has written an article that may be of
some interest to <br /> &gt;&gt; Australian OS/2ers in this months Voice
newsletter, here:<br /> &gt; <br /> &gt;&gt; <a
href="http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html"
target="_blank"
class="autolink">http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html</a><br
/> &gt; <br /> &gt; What a great article! I have a friend who works for
Motorola, here in<br /> &gt;  W.A. I know he would be interested. Could I
please pass it on? I <br /> &gt; would send it to my sister who lives
&quot;up the road&quot; from you, but I <br /> &gt; don&#39;t think she
would understand. :-)<br /> <br /> Just a word of warning. I got the same
offer from Orange, and went on to<br /> an $18/month plan and got a Motorola
RAZR V3x. (This commits me to a<br /> 24-month plan, but after that I have
the option to transfer to another<br /> provider if I want to. The other
phones on offer required only a<br /> 12-month commitment, but for some
unknown reason were not ever<br /> transferable to another provider.) I
noticed the option to use the phone<br /> as a broadband modem, but in my
opinion it was a bad deal except for a<br /> very low-usage user. It looks
very cheap, but people on the Broadband<br /> Choice web site (a good place
to visit if you want to compare<br /> broadband providers) have repeatedly
pointed out that any deal that<br /> includes a &quot;per MB&quot; component
can turn out to be very expensive, because<br /> you use up those megabytes
at a surprisingly high rate. Normally you<br /> would be better off going
for a deal with a fixed monthly charge and<br /> either &quot;unlimited
downloads&quot; or a system where your speed is reduced<br /> each time you
go over your monthly quota.<br /> <br /> As for the built-in camera:
I&#39;ve managed to transfer files to an from a<br /> Windows computer to
the phone, but have had no luck so far with eCS. The<br /> phone detects the
USB connection but the computer doesn&#39;t. This probably<br /> implies a
file system for which I don&#39;t have a driver. I installed FAT32<br />
last night, but it didn&#39;t help. However, I haven&#39;t explored this
option<br /> much so far - I&#39;m not terribly interested in taking photos
- so my<br /> failure is not necessarily final. The next time I plug it into
a Windows<br /> machine I&#39;ll try to see what file system it is using (if
I can work out<br /> how to do that in Windows).<br /> <br /> Slightly
off-topic: I&#39;ll soon be searching for a new Broadband provider,<br />
because my contract with Optus will soon expire. Actually, Optus has<br />
turned out to be not too bad (except for their crappy crippled broadband<br
/> modem that needs resetting every few weeks to detect the new lease),
so<br /> I might first ask them whether they&#39;ll permit me to run
servers. They<br /> probably won&#39;t, in which case I&#39;ll make sure I
let them know that that&#39;s<br /> why I&#39;m going to cancel the
contract.  At the end of last year I had a<br /> shortlist of providers that
do permit servers, but things have probably<br /> changed by now, so
it&#39;ll be back to a long search through Broadband Choice.<br /> <br /> --
<br /> Peter Moylan                          <a
href="mailto:peter at ozebelg dot org" target="_blank"
class="autolink">peter at ozebelg dot org</a><br />                                
       <a href="mailto:peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au" target="_blank"
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e-mail and web addresses.  The domain<br /> eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer
exists, and I can no longer<br /> reliably receive mail at my
newcastle.edu.au addresses.<br /> The optusnet address still has about 2
months of life left.<br />
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:34:03 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS [Warning LONG posting]

Peter Moylan wrote:

> nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote:
>
>> Hi Ed.
>>
>> In <447E363E.9050008 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 06/01/2006 at 10:35 AM, Ed 
>> Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:
>>
>>> Some idiot has written an article that may be of some interest to 
>>> Australian OS/2ers in this months Voice newsletter, here:
>>
>>
>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>
>>
>> What a great article! I have a friend who works for Motorola, here in
>> W.A. I know he would be interested. Could I please pass it on? I 
>> would send it to my sister who lives "up the road" from you, but I 
>> don't think she would understand. :-)
>
>
> Just a word of warning. I got the same offer from Orange, and went on to
> an $18/month plan and got a Motorola RAZR V3x. (This commits me to a
> 24-month plan, but after that I have the option to transfer to another
> provider if I want to. The other phones on offer required only a
> 12-month commitment, but for some unknown reason were not ever
> transferable to another provider.) I noticed the option to use the phone
> as a broadband modem, but in my opinion it was a bad deal except for a
> very low-usage user. It looks very cheap, but people on the Broadband
> Choice web site (a good place to visit if you want to compare
> broadband providers) have repeatedly pointed out that any deal that
> includes a "per MB" component can turn out to be very expensive, because
> you use up those megabytes at a surprisingly high rate. Normally you
> would be better off going for a deal with a fixed monthly charge and
> either "unlimited downloads" or a system where your speed is reduced
> each time you go over your monthly quota.
>
> As for the built-in camera: I've managed to transfer files to an from a
> Windows computer to the phone, but have had no luck so far with eCS. The
> phone detects the USB connection but the computer doesn't. This probably
> implies a file system for which I don't have a driver. I installed FAT32
> last night, but it didn't help. However, I haven't explored this option
> much so far - I'm not terribly interested in taking photos - so my
> failure is not necessarily final. The next time I plug it into a Windows
> machine I'll try to see what file system it is using (if I can work out
> how to do that in Windows).
>
> Slightly off-topic: I'll soon be searching for a new Broadband provider,
> because my contract with Optus will soon expire. Actually, Optus has
> turned out to be not too bad (except for their crappy crippled broadband
> modem that needs resetting every few weeks to detect the new lease), so
> I might first ask them whether they'll permit me to run servers. They
> probably won't, in which case I'll make sure I let them know that that's
> why I'm going to cancel the contract. At the end of last year I had a
> shortlist of providers that do permit servers, but things have probably
> changed by now, so it'll be back to a long search through Broadband 
> Choice.
>
Hi Peter,

I too have a RAZR V3x, and after looking at the [SanDisk] 64MB 
Transflash (Micro Secure Digital Card [~ 6mm * 4mm]) I can confirm that 
the only format that is acceptable to Motorola is VFAT12 - i.e. 12-bit 
FAT entries with LFN "a la" FAT32, but more space efficient than F32! 
Windows recognises that it is VFAT12 - OS/2-eCS thinks it is just FAT12, 
so the directory structure gets screwed up if appending to the card from 
our OS!

Here's a look at the data on a 1GB regular size SDRAM card that I bought 
from DSE yesterday for my new Palm Tungsten E2 [$339 on special til 11th 
June] almost exactly the same formatting as the Motorola Transflash - 
VFAT12, although they both label the DBR as FAT16 - I'll have a chat to 
Chris [GU] to see whether he could extend the GU to include a VFAT [12 & 
16] to the current suite.

Using my Favourite Text Editor [V-Edit] to open the SDRAM Card it shows:

Cut the following and look at it in System Vio10 in any editor!

Disk info
|Drive: O: |
|DOS Partition size: 1023902208 |
|DOS Partition total sectors: 1999809 |
|DOS Sectors/Cluster: 32 |
|DOS Sector size: 512 |
|DOS FAT descriptor (hex): F8 |
|DOS # of FATs: 2 |
|DOS Sectors/FAT: 245 |
|DOS Sectors in root directory: 32 |
|DOS Reserved sectors: 1 |
|DOS Hidden sectors: 63 |
|DOS Offset to data area: 523 |
|DOS Data area size: 1023623168 |
|DOS Data area free: 1023475712 |
|DOS Data area total sectors: 1999264 |
|DOS Data area total clusters: 62477 |
|NOT EDITABLE AS A NON-DOS DISK |
|Press <Enter> to continue |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 


Compare above with standard FAT [HDD version] which only has a single 
RESERVED sector [the MBR]

[DI-Disk Information, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed 
Computers]


Recommended Values Drive O: Actual Values
---------------------------------------------------------
512 bytes per sector 512
32 sectors per cluster 32
1 reserved sectors 1
2 number of FATs 2
512 root directory entries 512
0 number of sectors 0
F8 media descriptor F8
245 sectors per FAT 245
63 sectors per track 63
32 number of heads 32
63 hidden sectors 63
1999809 large sectors 1999809
992 number of cylinders 992
15 device attributes 15
5 device type 5

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

| ----------------------------------- |
| | Select logical sector | |
| ------------------------------------- |
| | | |
| | Cylinder:0 | |
| | 0 - 991 (0x3df) | |
| | Head:0 | |
| | 0 - 31 (0x1f) | |
| | Sector:1 | |
| | 1 - 63 (0x3f) | |
| | LSN:N/A | |
| | 0 - 1999808 (0x1e83c0) | |
| | Cluster:N/A | |
| | 2 - 62478 (0xf40e) | |
| | Number:1 | |
| | 1 - 1999872 (0x1e8400) | |
| | | |
| | Enter accepts values | |
| | ESC aborts | |
| ----------------------------------- |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

|FAT Disk O: LSN N/A Cl 0000 Hd 000 Sect 001 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000020 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000030 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000040 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000050 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000060 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000070 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000080 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000090 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000000A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000000B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000000C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000000D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000000E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000000F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000100 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000110 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000120 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000130 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000140 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000150 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000160 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000170 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000180 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000190 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 
................. |
| 000001C0 01 00 06 1f ff df 3f 00 00 00 c1 83 1e 00 00 00 
.......?......... |
| 000001D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 55 aa 
...............U. |
---------------------------------------------------------- Press F1 for 
Help -
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|FAT Disk O: LSN N/A Cl 0000 Hd 000 Sect 001 PART TABL Mask Offset 1BE|
| -- -- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ---------- ---------- |
| |00|06|0 |1 |1 |991 |31 |63 |63 |1999809 | |
| |00|00|0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 | |
| |00|00|0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 | |
| |00|00|0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |0 | |
| -- -- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ---------- ---------- |
| |
| Partition Status |
| |
| This byte indicates the current partition status. |
| This is a hexadecimal number. |
| 80 indicates that the partition is bootable. |
| 00 indicates that the partition is not bootable. |
---------------------------------------------------------- Press F1 for 
Help -

[all NULLs until ...]

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

|FAT Disk O: LSN 0 Cl 0000 Hd 001 Sect 001 RAW Mask Offset 1BE|
| 00000000 eb 00 90 50 41 4c 4d 20 34 2e 30 00 02 20 01 00 ...PALM 4.0.. 
... |
| 00000010 02 00 02 00 00 f8 f5 00 3f 00 20 00 3f 00 00 00 ........?. 
..?... |
| 00000020 c1 83 1e 00 80 00 29 78 56 34 12 31 47 42 43 41 
.......)xV4.1GBCA |
| 00000030 52 44 20 20 20 20 46 41 54 31 36 20 20 20 00 00 RD FAT16 .. |
| 00000040 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 55 aa 
...............U. |
---------------------------------------------------------- Press F1 for 
Help -
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 1 Cl 0000 Hd 001 Sect 002 RAW Mask Offset 1BE|
| 00000000 f8 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 
................. |
| 00000010 0a 00 00 00 0b 00 f8 ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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Help -
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 491 Cl 0000 Hd 008 Sect 051 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 31 47 42 43 41 52 44 20 20 20 20 28 00 00 0a 3a 1GBCARD (...: |
| 00000010 c2 34 00 00 00 00 0a 3a c2 34 00 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000020 56 4f 4c 55 4d 45 20 20 4e 41 4d 06 00 00 0a 3a VOLUME NAM....: |
| 00000030 c2 34 c2 34 00 00 0a 3a c2 34 02 00 28 00 00 00 
..4.4...:.4..(... |
| 00000040 50 41 4c 4d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 00 00 0a 3a PALM ....: |
| 00000050 c2 34 00 00 00 00 0a 3a c2 34 03 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000060 44 43 49 4d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 00 00 13 3a DCIM ....: |
| 00000070 c2 34 00 00 00 00 13 3a c2 34 05 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000080 57 50 20 52 4f 4f 54 20 20 53 46 26 00 00 00 00 WP ROOT SF&..... |
| 00000090 00 00 00 00 02 00 bb 3d c2 34 07 00 45 02 00 00 
........=.4..E... |
| 000000A0 45 41 20 44 41 54 41 20 20 53 46 27 00 00 00 00 EA DATA SF'..... |
| 000000B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 a5 3d c2 34 08 00 00 c0 00 00 
........=.4...... |
| 000000C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 523 Cl 0000 Hd 009 Sect 020 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 89 76 4e 1a 00 0e 00 31 00 47 00 42 00 43 00 41 
..vN....1.G.B.C.A |
| 00000010 00 52 00 44 00 12 00 31 00 20 00 47 00 42 00 20 .R.D...1. .G.B.. |
| 00000020 00 43 00 61 00 72 00 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
..C.a.r.d........ |
| 00000030 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 555 Cl 0000 Hd 009 Sect 052 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 2e 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 00 00 0a 3a . ....: |
| 00000010 c2 34 00 00 00 00 0a 3a c2 34 03 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000020 2e 2e 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 00 00 0a 3a .. ....: |
| 00000030 c2 34 00 00 00 00 0a 3a c2 34 00 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000040 41 4c 00 61 00 75 00 6e 00 63 00 0f 00 ca 68 00 
AL.a.u.n.c....h. |
| 00000050 65 00 72 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff 00 00 ff ff ff ff 
e.r............. |
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| 00000070 c2 34 00 00 01 00 13 3a c2 34 04 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000080 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 587 Cl 0000 Hd 010 Sect 021 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 2e 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 00 00 13 3a . ....: |
| 00000010 c2 34 00 00 00 00 13 3a c2 34 04 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000020 2e 2e 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 00 00 13 3a .. ....: |
| 00000030 c2 34 00 00 00 00 13 3a c2 34 03 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000040 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 619 Cl 0000 Hd 010 Sect 053 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 2e 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 00 00 13 3a . ....: |
| 00000010 c2 34 00 00 00 00 13 3a c2 34 05 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000020 2e 2e 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 00 00 13 3a .. ....: |
| 00000030 c2 34 00 00 00 00 13 3a c2 34 00 00 00 00 00 00 
..4.....:.4...... |
| 00000040 41 41 00 6c 00 6c 00 41 00 6c 00 0f 00 91 62 00 
AA.l.l.A.l....b. |
| 00000050 75 00 6d 00 2e 00 64 00 62 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff 
u.m...d.b....... |
| 00000060 41 4c 4c 41 4c 42 55 4d 44 42 20 22 00 00 13 3a ALLALBUMDB 
"...: |
| 00000070 c2 34 c2 34 00 00 13 3a c2 34 06 00 10 00 00 00 
..4.4...:.4...... |
| 00000080 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 651 Cl 0000 Hd 011 Sect 022 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 44 42 46 48 00 00 00 21 00 00 01 00 c0 a5 96 56 
DBFH...!.......V |
| 00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 683 Cl 0000 Hd 011 Sect 054 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 00 00 00 00 30 02 00 00 57 50 52 6f 6f 74 46 6f 
.....0...WPRootFo |
| 00000010 6c 64 65 72 00 10 02 fc 18 10 00 fc 18 2a 02 fc 
lder.........*.. |
| 00000020 18 20 02 00 00 0d 00 0e 00 57 50 52 6f 6f 74 46 . 
........WPRootF |
| 00000030 6f 6c 64 65 72 00 03 00 01 00 08 00 44 72 69 76 
older.......Driv |
| 00000040 65 20 4f 00 09 00 1b 00 57 50 53 65 63 75 72 65 e 
O.....WPSecure |
| 00000050 00 03 00 01 00 01 00 00 02 00 02 00 04 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000060 00 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 1e 00 
................. |
| 00000070 58 46 6f 6c 64 65 72 00 02 00 0b 00 04 00 ff 00 
XFolder......... |
| 00000080 00 00 02 00 0c 00 04 00 ff 00 00 00 02 00 0d 00 
................. |
| 00000090 04 00 ff 00 00 00 09 00 39 01 57 50 46 6f 6c 64 
.........9.WPFold |
| 000000A0 65 72 00 04 00 6d 0b 9b 00 43 4c 41 53 58 57 50 
er...m...CLASXWP |
| 000000B0 46 6f 6e 74 4f 62 6a 65 63 74 00 43 4c 41 53 58 
FontObject.CLASX |
| 000000C0 57 50 54 72 61 73 68 4f 62 6a 65 63 74 00 43 4c 
WPTrashObject.CL |
| 000000D0 41 53 54 53 41 72 63 45 6c 65 6d 00 43 4c 41 53 
ASTSArcElem.CLAS |
| 000000E0 54 53 4b 65 79 44 65 66 6e 00 43 4c 41 53 57 50 
TSKeyDefn.CLASWP |
| 000000F0 46 74 70 4f 62 6a 00 43 4c 41 53 57 50 55 72 6c 
FtpObj.CLASWPUrl |
| 00000100 00 43 4c 41 53 57 50 4f 62 6a 65 63 74 00 43 4c 
..CLASWPObject.CL |
| 00000110 41 53 57 50 46 69 6c 65 53 79 73 74 65 6d 00 43 
ASWPFileSystem.C |
| 00000120 52 49 54 b4 f7 f7 13 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 
RIT............. |
| 00000130 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 27 
................' |
| 00000140 00 00 00 00 04 00 73 0b 54 00 04 00 30 00 64 0e 
.......s.T...0.d. |
| 00000150 58 00 28 80 30 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff 
X.(.0........... |
| 00000160 ff ff 00 00 00 40 ef ff ff ff ef ff ff ff dd ff 
...... at .......... |
| 00000170 ff ff ef ff ff ff ef ff ff ff dd ff ff ff 00 00 
................. |
| 00000180 00 40 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 02 00 
.. at ... at ... at ...... |
| 00000190 00 00 d0 ff ff ff d0 ff ff ff d0 ff ff ff 04 00 
................. |
| 000001A0 74 0b 02 00 ff ff 04 00 71 0b 18 00 fe ff ff ff 
t.......q....... |
| 000001B0 00 00 00 00 fe ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001C0 00 00 00 00 04 00 7a 0b 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
.......z......... |
| 000001D0 00 00 02 00 7b 0b 04 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 3c 00 
.....{.........<. |
| 000001E0 57 50 4f 62 6a 65 63 74 00 04 00 0b 00 20 00 78 WPObject..... 
..x |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 684 Cl 0000 Hd 011 Sect 055 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 04 
................. |
| 00000010 00 0c 00 02 00 ff ff 04 00 04 00 08 00 ff ff ff 
................. |
| 00000020 ff ff ff ff ff 0c 00 0a 00 54 53 45 6e 68 46 6f 
..........TSEnhFo |
| 00000030 6c 64 65 72 00 02 00 00 40 04 00 ff ff ff ff 00 
lder.... at ....... |
| 00000040 00 00 00 00 00 00 1b 00 57 50 53 65 63 75 72 65 
.........WPSecure |
| 00000050 00 03 00 01 00 01 00 00 02 00 02 00 04 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000060 00 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 1e 00 
................. |
| 00000070 58 46 6f 6c 64 65 72 00 02 00 0b 00 04 00 ff 00 
XFolder......... |
| 00000080 00 00 02 00 0c 00 04 00 ff 00 00 00 02 00 0d 00 
................. |
| 00000090 04 00 ff 00 00 00 09 00 98 00 57 50 46 6f 6c 64 
...........WPFold |
| 000000A0 65 72 00 04 00 73 0b 54 00 04 00 30 00 64 0e 58 
er...s.T...0.d.X |
| 000000B0 00 28 80 30 00 03 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff 
..(.0............ |
| 000000C0 ff 00 00 00 40 ef ff ff ff ef ff ff ff dd ff ff 
..... at ........... |
| 000000D0 ff ef ff ff ff ef ff ff ff dd ff ff ff 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000000E0 40 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 
 at ... at ... at ....... |
| 000000F0 00 d0 ff ff ff d0 ff ff ff d0 ff ff ff 04 00 74 
................t |
| 00000100 0b 02 00 ff ff 04 00 71 0b 18 00 fe ff ff ff 00 
........q........ |
| 00000110 00 00 00 fe ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000120 00 00 00 04 00 7a 0b 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
......z.......... |
| 00000130 00 02 00 7b 0b 04 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 3c 00 57 
....{.........<.W |
| 00000140 50 4f 62 6a 65 63 74 00 04 00 0b 00 20 00 78 00 PObject..... 
..x. |
| 00000150 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000160 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 04 00 
................. |
| 00000170 0c 00 02 00 ff ff 04 00 04 00 08 00 ff ff ff ff 
................. |
| 00000180 ff ff ff ff 0c 00 0a 00 54 53 45 6e 68 46 6f 6c 
.........TSEnhFol |
| 00000190 64 65 72 00 02 00 00 40 04 00 ff ff ff ff 00 00 
der.... at ........ |
| 000001A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 715 Cl 0000 Hd 012 Sect 023 RAW No Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 45 44 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
ED.............. |
| 00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000020 01 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000030 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000040 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000050 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000060 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000070 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000080 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000090 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000000A0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000000B0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000000C0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000000D0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000000E0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000000F0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000100 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000110 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000120 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000130 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000140 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000150 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000160 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000170 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000180 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 00000190 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000001A0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000001B0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000001C0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000001D0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000001E0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
| 000001F0 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 
00 ........ |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 716 Cl 0000 Hd 012 Sect 024 RAW No Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 ff ff 00 00 01 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ... |
| [all 0xFFs here] |
| 000001F0 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 717 Cl 0000 Hd 012 Sect 025 RAW No Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |
| [all 0xFFs here] |
| 000001F0 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 747 Cl 0000 Hd 012 Sect 055 RAW No Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 45 41 01 00 00 00 00 00 4c 41 55 4e 43 48 45 52 
EA.....LAUNCHER |
| 00000010 00 1b 00 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 33 00 00 00 00 08 
..........3.... |
| 00000020 22 00 2e 49 43 4f 4e 50 4f 53 00 fe ff 1e 00 ff "..ICONPOS.. .. |
| 00000030 7f 00 00 ff 7f 00 00 00 15 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 .. 
......... |
| 00000040 00 04 00 00 05 00 00 00 25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
.......%....... |
| 00000050 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 779 Cl 0000 Hd 013 Sect 024 RAW Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 45 41 01 00 00 00 00 00 4c 41 55 4e 43 48 45 52 
EA......LAUNCHER |
| 00000010 00 01 00 00 4a 5a 00 00 00 00 d3 01 00 00 00 08 
.....JZ.......... |
| 00000020 22 00 2e 49 43 4f 4e 50 4f 53 00 fe ff 1e 00 ff 
"..ICONPOS...... |
| 00000030 7f 00 00 ff 7f 00 00 00 15 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 
.............. |
| 00000040 00 04 00 00 05 00 00 00 25 00 00 00 00 00 0a 91 
.........%....... |
| 00000050 01 2e 43 4c 41 53 53 49 4e 46 4f 00 fe ff 8d 01 
...CLASSINFO..... |
| 00000060 00 00 00 00 7c 01 00 00 57 50 46 6f 6c 64 65 72 
.........WPFolder |
| 00000070 00 5c 01 fa 18 10 00 fa 18 76 01 fa 18 6c 01 00 
..\.......v...l.. |
| 00000080 00 09 00 1b 00 57 50 53 65 63 75 72 65 00 03 00 
......WPSecure... |
| 00000090 01 00 01 00 00 02 00 02 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 02 
................. |
| 000000A0 00 03 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 1e 00 58 46 6f 
..............XFo |
| 000000B0 6c 64 65 72 00 02 00 0b 00 04 00 ff 00 00 00 02 
lder............ |
| 000000C0 00 0c 00 04 00 ff 00 00 00 02 00 0d 00 04 00 ff 
................. |
| 000000D0 00 00 00 09 00 98 00 57 50 46 6f 6c 64 65 72 00 
........WPFolder. |
| 000000E0 04 00 73 0b 54 00 04 00 30 00 64 00 50 00 28 80 
...s.T...0.d.P.(. |
| 000000F0 30 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff 00 00 
0............... |
| 00000100 00 40 ef ff ff ff ef ff ff ff dd ff ff ff ef ff 
.. at .............. |
| 00000110 ff ff ef ff ff ff dd ff ff ff 00 00 00 40 00 00 
.............. at .. |
| 00000120 00 40 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 d0 ff 
.. at ... at .......... |
| 00000130 ff ff d0 ff ff ff d0 ff ff ff 04 00 74 0b 02 00 
.............t... |
| 00000140 ff ff 04 00 71 0b 18 00 fe ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 
.....q........... |
| 00000150 fe ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 00000160 04 00 7a 0b 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 
...z............. |
| 00000170 7b 0b 04 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 48 00 57 50 4f 62 
{.........H.WPOb |
| 00000180 6a 65 63 74 00 04 00 0b 00 20 00 01 00 00 00 00 ject..... 
....... |
| 00000190 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| 000001A0 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 04 00 0c 00 0e 
................. |
| 000001B0 00 02 00 32 34 30 38 35 36 40 31 30 00 ff ff 04 
....240856 at 10.... |
| 000001C0 00 04 00 08 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 0c 00 0a 
................. |
| 000001D0 00 54 53 45 6e 68 46 6f 6c 64 65 72 00 02 00 00 
..TSEnhFolder.... |
| 000001E0 40 04 00 ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
 at ............... |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 811 Cl 0000 Hd 013 Sect 056 RAW No Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 45 41 02 00 00 00 00 00 57 50 20 52 4f 4f 54 2e EA.....WP 
ROOT. |
| 00000010 20 53 46 00 4a 5a 00 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 00 08 SF.JZ......... |
| 00000020 af 00 2e 49 43 4f 4e 50 4f 53 00 fe ff ab 00 ff ...ICONPOS.. ... |
| 00000030 7f 00 00 ff 7f 00 00 00 15 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 .. 
......... |
| 00000040 00 04 00 00 65 01 00 00 25 00 00 00 57 50 44 61 
....e..%...WPDa |
| 00000050 74 61 46 69 6c 65 3a 46 45 41 20 44 41 54 41 2e taFile:FEA 
DATA. |
| 00000060 20 53 46 00 13 01 00 00 25 00 00 00 57 50 44 61 SF...%....WPDa |
| 00000070 74 61 46 69 6c 65 3a 46 57 50 20 52 4f 4f 54 2e taFile:FWP 
ROOT. |
| 00000080 20 53 46 00 c1 00 00 00 25 00 00 00 57 50 46 6f SF. ...%...WPFo |
| 00000090 6c 64 65 72 3a 44 44 43 49 4d 00 6d 00 00 00 25 
lder:DDCIM.m...% |
| 000000A0 00 00 00 57 50 44 61 74 61 46 69 6c 65 3a 46 56 
....WPDataFile:FV |
| 000000B0 4f 4c 55 4d 45 2e 4e 41 4d 00 19 00 00 00 25 00 
OLUME.NAM....%. |
| 000000C0 00 00 57 50 46 6f 6c 64 65 72 3a 44 50 41 4c 4d 
...WPFolder:DPALM |
| 000000D0 00 a1 01 00 00 25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
..í..%.......... |
| 000000E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
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|FAT Disk O: LSN 1982 Cl 0001 Hd 000 Sect 030 RAW No Mask Offset 000|
| 00000000 f8 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 0f 00 00 00 00 . .... |
| 00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
| [all NULLs here] |
| 000001F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
................. |
---------------------------------------------------------- Press F1 for 
Help -
(some characters in the ASCII dump replaced with printable ones!)
I tried [successfully] formatting it [1GB] as FAT32, but on reinserting 
it in the PALM, that said (roughly) "can't read the card", but at least 
the PALM successfully re-formatted the card back to the specs it wanted 
- whereas with the Motorola it reckoned there were 4GB in use on the 
(total capacity 0.00KB of the) 64MB Transflash - and on using the 
Phone's format menu item - after about 0.1 secs it said "Format failed - 
wanna try again??"!

I'd say it's definitely the two root entries for EA DATA. SF and WP 
ROOT. SF, and their associated data that it doesn't like! So we 
definitely will need a new VFAT.IFS whilst manufacturers continue to use 
it for cameras/phones/PDAs!

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:53:34 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Accessing Phone SDCard (WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS) [Warning LONG posting - shortened]

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
>> nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ed.
>>>
>>> In <447E363E.9050008 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 06/01/2006 at 10:35 AM, Ed 
>>> Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> said:
>>>
>>>> Some idiot has written an article that may be of some interest to 
>>>> Australian OS/2ers in this months Voice newsletter, here:
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>> What a great article! I have a friend who works for Motorola, here in
>>> W.A. I know he would be interested. Could I please pass it on? I 
>>> would send it to my sister who lives "up the road" from you, but I 
>>> don't think she would understand. :-)
>>
>>
>> Just a word of warning. I got the same offer from Orange, and went on to
>> an $18/month plan and got a Motorola RAZR V3x. (This commits me to a
>> 24-month plan, but after that I have the option to transfer to another
>> provider if I want to. The other phones on offer required only a
>> 12-month commitment, but for some unknown reason were not ever
>> transferable to another provider.) I noticed the option to use the phone
>> as a broadband modem, but in my opinion it was a bad deal except for a
>> very low-usage user. It looks very cheap, but people on the Broadband
>> Choice web site (a good place to visit if you want to compare
>> broadband providers) have repeatedly pointed out that any deal that
>> includes a "per MB" component can turn out to be very expensive, because
>> you use up those megabytes at a surprisingly high rate. Normally you
>> would be better off going for a deal with a fixed monthly charge and
>> either "unlimited downloads" or a system where your speed is reduced
>> each time you go over your monthly quota.
>>
>> As for the built-in camera: I've managed to transfer files to an from a
>> Windows computer to the phone, but have had no luck so far with eCS. The
>> phone detects the USB connection but the computer doesn't. This probably
>> implies a file system for which I don't have a driver. I installed FAT32
>> last night, but it didn't help. However, I haven't explored this option
>> much so far - I'm not terribly interested in taking photos - so my
>> failure is not necessarily final. The next time I plug it into a Windows
>> machine I'll try to see what file system it is using (if I can work out
>> how to do that in Windows).
>>
>> Slightly off-topic: I'll soon be searching for a new Broadband provider,
>> because my contract with Optus will soon expire. Actually, Optus has
>> turned out to be not too bad (except for their crappy crippled broadband
>> modem that needs resetting every few weeks to detect the new lease), so
>> I might first ask them whether they'll permit me to run servers. They
>> probably won't, in which case I'll make sure I let them know that that's
>> why I'm going to cancel the contract. At the end of last year I had a
>> shortlist of providers that do permit servers, but things have probably
>> changed by now, so it'll be back to a long search through Broadband 
>> Choice.
>>
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I too have a RAZR V3x, and after looking at the [SanDisk] 64MB 
> Transflash (Micro Secure Digital Card [~ 6mm * 4mm]) I can confirm that 
> the only format that is acceptable to Motorola is VFAT12 - i.e. 12-bit 
> FAT entries with LFN "a la" FAT32, but more space efficient than F32! 
> Windows recognises that it is VFAT12 - OS/2-eCS thinks it is just FAT12, 
> so the directory structure gets screwed up if appending to the card from 
> our OS!
> 
> Here's a look at the data on a 1GB regular size SDRAM card that I bought 
> from DSE yesterday for my new Palm Tungsten E2 [$339 on special til 11th 
> June] almost exactly the same formatting as the Motorola Transflash - 
> VFAT12, although they both label the DBR as FAT16 - I'll have a chat to 
> Chris [GU] to see whether he could extend the GU to include a VFAT [12 & 
> 16] to the current suite.
> 
> Using my Favourite Text Editor [V-Edit] to open the SDRAM Card it shows:
> 
> Cut the following and look at it in System Vio10 in any editor!
> 

> 

Would VFATMON help ??

VFATMon v1.2 Copyright Jason Stefanovich, 2004

VFATMon monitors drives and converts VFAT long file names to EAs.

This program really shouldn't need to exist, but it does...Why?
Because many of today's popular flash drives are formatted for
Fat16/VFAT and VFAT.IFS does not support removable/hot swappable
media.  If it did, or if the Removable Device Monitor supported
some options to call external programs, there would be no need
for this kludge.  No, I don't want to reformat my drives to NTFS, HPFS
or anything else (and on some devices that rely upon a specific format,
this is *not* a good idea).


Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:37:49 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Accessing Phone SDCard (WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS) [Warning LONG posting - shortened]

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I too have a RAZR V3x, and after looking at the [SanDisk] 64MB 
>> Transflash (Micro Secure Digital Card [~ 6mm * 4mm]) I can confirm 
>> that the only format that is acceptable to Motorola is VFAT12 - i.e. 
>> 12-bit FAT entries with LFN "a la" FAT32, but more space efficient 
>> than F32! Windows recognises that it is VFAT12 - OS/2-eCS thinks it 
>> is just FAT12, so the directory structure gets screwed up if 
>> appending to the card from our OS!
>
> Would VFATMON help ??
>
> VFATMon v1.2 Copyright Jason Stefanovich, 2004
>
> VFATMon monitors drives and converts VFAT long file names to EAs.
>
> This program really shouldn't need to exist, but it does...Why?
> Because many of today's popular flash drives are formatted for
> Fat16/VFAT and VFAT.IFS does not support removable/hot swappable
> media.  If it did, or if the Removable Device Monitor supported
> some options to call external programs, there would be no need
> for this kludge.  No, I don't want to reformat my drives to NTFS, HPFS
> or anything else (and on some devices that rely upon a specific format,
> this is *not* a good idea).
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.

Hi Ed,

No I don't consider it would unfortunately.
A big part of the problem is that it's not just file[|dir]names that 
exceed the 11 characters of the 8.3 format that have [under Windoze] 
Unicode long file[|dir]names, but any < 8.3 ditto that has _mixed_ case!
The mixed-case version is used for the LFN directory entry, but is 
uppercased for the 8.3 entry! Reading off the cards etc. isn't the main 
problem  - it's writing new entries from OS/2-eCS or modifying existing 
entries.
The final entry of a LFN always starts with 0x41 ['A'], and is the 
unicode representation of the beginning of the long file name and is 
preceded by later parts of that LFN, such that the very first entry in 
the multiple entries for any LFN contains the final part of the name, 
whereas the [regular non-unicode] 8.3 flavour entry in the directory  
follows the 32-byte entry for the start of the LFN!

Talk about putting the Cart before the horse!
I'm going to have a go at forcing the existing contents of a VFAT12 disk 
onto one formatted [and readable/writable by OS/2-eCS] as FAT32 under 
W2KPro. Will let you all know how I go.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:57:19 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Accessing Phone SDCard (WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS) [Warning LONG posting - shortened]

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> I too have a RAZR V3x, and after looking at the [SanDisk] 64MB 
>>> Transflash (Micro Secure Digital Card [~ 6mm * 4mm]) I can confirm 
>>> that the only format that is acceptable to Motorola is VFAT12 - i.e. 
>>> 12-bit FAT entries with LFN "a la" FAT32, but more space efficient 
>>> than F32! Windows recognises that it is VFAT12 - OS/2-eCS thinks it 
>>> is just FAT12, so the directory structure gets screwed up if 
>>> appending to the card from our OS!
>>
>> Would VFATMON help ??
>>
>> VFATMon v1.2 Copyright Jason Stefanovich, 2004
>>
>> VFATMon monitors drives and converts VFAT long file names to EAs.
>>
>> This program really shouldn't need to exist, but it does...Why?
>> Because many of today's popular flash drives are formatted for
>> Fat16/VFAT and VFAT.IFS does not support removable/hot swappable
>> media.  If it did, or if the Removable Device Monitor supported
>> some options to call external programs, there would be no need
>> for this kludge.  No, I don't want to reformat my drives to NTFS, HPFS
>> or anything else (and on some devices that rely upon a specific format,
>> this is *not* a good idea).
>>
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> No I don't consider it would unfortunately.
> A big part of the problem is that it's not just file[|dir]names that 
> exceed the 11 characters of the 8.3 format that have [under Windoze] 
> Unicode long file[|dir]names, but any < 8.3 ditto that has _mixed_ case!
> The mixed-case version is used for the LFN directory entry, but is 
> uppercased for the 8.3 entry! Reading off the cards etc. isn't the main 
> problem  - it's writing new entries from OS/2-eCS or modifying existing 
> entries.
> The final entry of a LFN always starts with 0x41 ['A'], and is the 
> unicode representation of the beginning of the long file name and is 
> preceded by later parts of that LFN, such that the very first entry in 
> the multiple entries for any LFN contains the final part of the name, 
> whereas the [regular non-unicode] 8.3 flavour entry in the directory  
> follows the 32-byte entry for the start of the LFN!
> 
> Talk about putting the Cart before the horse!
> I'm going to have a go at forcing the existing contents of a VFAT12 disk 
> onto one formatted [and readable/writable by OS/2-eCS] as FAT32 under 
> W2KPro. Will let you all know how I go.
> 
Ok, How about this then:

   VFAT2EA version v1.31
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Introduction:
- - - - - - -
   For FAT partitions, WinXX can assign long filenames to files, and 
saves them in the directory structure. This partition type is called 
VFAT. OS/2 is not able to use these long filenames (except by using VFAT 
IFS), just the short aliases.

   By using VFAT2EA, you'll be able to see, and even copy these long 
filenames *in the WPS*! (Or in any program which manages .LONGNAME EAs, 
like the included rxcopy one.)

   VFAT2EA converts VFAT Long Filenames to OS/2's .LONGNAME Extended 
Attributes,which is the standard way in OS/2 to store the long filenames 
for every file or directory on a partition, which does not support long 
filenames.

   For using OS/2 written long filenames in WinXX, use the /B switch. It 
will convert back all .LONGNAME Extended Attributes to VFAT Long 
Filenames. Before using it, please read all this readme file!

These are utilities on the DVD I sent you a while ago (are you able to 
read my Burnt DVD-Rs yet ?)

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:14:42 +1000
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS [Warning LONG posting]

Mike O'Connor wrote:

> I too have a RAZR V3x, and after looking at the [SanDisk] 64MB 
> Transflash (Micro Secure Digital Card [~ 6mm * 4mm]) I can confirm
> that the only format that is acceptable to Motorola is VFAT12 - i.e.
> 12-bit FAT entries with LFN "a la" FAT32, but more space efficient
> than F32! Windows recognises that it is VFAT12 - OS/2-eCS thinks it
> is just FAT12, so the directory structure gets screwed up if
> appending to the card from our OS!

I'm surprised that VFAT12 even exists, because the reason for the
invention of FAT16 (FAT12 was the original DOS file system) was that
FAT12 because grossly inefficient once floppies got as large as 1.2MB.
(You could use it only by having a large cluster size.)

I see that there's a VFAT IFS by Daniel Steiner on Hobbes. I don't know
anything about it, but it might be worth a try.

> Here's a look at the data on a 1GB regular size SDRAM card that I
> bought from DSE yesterday for my new Palm Tungsten E2 [$339 on
> special til 11th June] almost exactly the same formatting as the
> Motorola Transflash - VFAT12, although they both label the DBR as
> FAT16 - I'll have a chat to Chris [GU] to see whether he could extend
> the GU to include a VFAT [12 & 16] to the current suite.

Years ago I wrote disk drivers for DOS that would work with both FAT12
and FAT16, and as far as I recall they autodetected which one was which.
(It was part of a library for writing multithread programs for DOS. I
had to write all my own device drivers because MS-DOS device drivers
used BIOS routines, and the stupid BIOS used to enable interrupts when
they were supposed to be disabled, so the DOS device drivers couldn't be
trusted.) I'd be happy to give that code to Chris or to anyone else
who's willing to write a VFAT IFS. (As I understand it, VFAT is almost
identical to FAT, except that it uses two directory entries per file.
Even though I've written device drivers for bare machines, I have no
experience into how to do it for OS/2.

(If I recall correctly, Chris is a member of this list.)

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at ozebelg dot org
                                       peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses.  The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer
reliably receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses.
The optusnet address still has about 2 months of life left.
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Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:41:17 +1000
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Aussie ISP - WAS: Aussie Mobile Internet for OS/2 - eCS

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Slightly off-topic: I'll soon be searching for a new Broadband
>> provider, because my contract with Optus will soon expire.
>> Actually, Optus has turned out to be not too bad (except for their
>> crappy crippled broadband modem that needs resetting every few
>> weeks to detect the new lease), so I might first ask them whether
>> they'll permit me to run servers. They probably won't, in which
>> case I'll make sure I let them know that that's why I'm going to
>> cancel the contract.  At the end of last year I had a shortlist of
>> providers that do permit servers, but things have probably changed
>> by now, so it'll be back to a long search through Broadband Choice.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Are you looking for a Cable connection or ADSL ?

Cable isn't available in Newcastle. I've been approached by Foxtel
salespeople several times, and each time I've said I might be interested
if they had good terms for broadband computer connections, because that
was the only part of what they were offering that was worth anything. (I
rarely watch sport on TV, I have little interest in watching reruns of
ancient programs, the movies are rarely as good as what SBS offers, and
Fox News doesn't have much of a reputation for telling the truth.) The
answer, each time, is that their "cable" service is actually delivered
by satellite, so they can't offer broadband.

> If you're looking for ADSL, I would recommend Internode. I was very 
> impressed with this company when I first met them in Adelaide
> supporting one of my customers' internet needs. They were competant,
> flexible and helpful.

I've noticed good reviews for Internode in the past, so I'll definitely
look at them.

Anyway, thanks to everyone who's given suggestions. I'm saving the
entire thread, and once I go through it it looks as though I'll already
be down to a shortlist of only 3 or 4 possibilities, which will simplify
the investigation enormously.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at ozebelg dot org
                                       peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses.  The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer
reliably receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses.
The optusnet address still has about 2 months of life left.
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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:03:28 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   [Fwd: Re: Senior Software Engineer C/C++ - Q4]


Hi All,

   There appears to be at least one company still developing using OS/2 
as the GUI, in Queensland (Australia).

Does anyone happen to know who this company is ??

I think you might find this job of interest.

Type:		Permanent
Position:	Senior Software Engineer C/C++ - Q4

Skills and description:
Professional and exciting industry stable, long term role career path. 
Be part of this exciting and professional organisation working on 
transaction based Real Time systems that are rolled out across the 
eastern seaboard. You will have strong C/C++ development skills on 
Unix/HP Linux. The GUI is OS/2. This is a permanent opportunity to start 
ASAP. A long term, stable career history will be highly favoured as this 
organisation is keen to invest in you and your skills. Interstate 
candidates are encouraged to apply. An attractive and competitive salary 
will be offered for the right candidate.

Location:	Brisbane, Queensland
Start Date:	ASAP
Duration:	
Rate:		
Contact:	Leisa O'connor
Telephone:	(+61 7) 3232 2300
Fax:		(+61 7) 3232 2399
Email:	Leisa.OConnor.E4024.C1018 at mail.jobserve dot com
Reference:	JS/Q4100
Posted Date:27/05/2006 03:04:44
Agency:	Finite IT Recruitment Solutions - Brisbane
Link: http://www.jobserve dot com dot au/W7FEBC8F2CCEA729D.job



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