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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 01:24:16 +1000
From: Peter <pedrosatsub dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] ubject: [Fwd: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up]

Daryl,


With the Win98SE Dialup, I had the same problem.

What i did was, went into Control Panel...Add/Remove Programs..Windows Setup &
de-select Communications.  Click OK & reboot.

When you get back, go into Control Panel etc, select Communications (select whatever
options you want).  Then click OK.  Win98 will then ask for the cd so it can be done.
You then might have reboot.

When you get back again, to set up the Dialup Networking, you must use the Internet
Connection Wizard...not Dialup Networking in My Computer.  (You didn't say which method
you used)

But the irony of all this is that i still haven't solved my dialup networking on OS/2.
The modem doesn't appear in the hardware list.  Should it?

                                                        -----------------------

Partitioning Programs:

I have Systems Commander (i did have PM but SC is supposed to be more flexible) which
is supposed to cater for up to 100 operating systems.  It handles ALL the Windows (even
2000)...DOS...OS/2...LINUX... BeOS...UNIX etc.  This is the web page:
http://www.v-com dot com/

The advantage of SC, although i cant vouch for every other similar program, is that it
has a virtual boot manager.  In other words, it doesn't take up a c: partition so u can
have 4 primaries.

I have a Pent120 (yep that old) with Win95, 3.1 & OS/2 Warp 4 (FAT) all on c: drives
with no conflicts at all.  I must say at this point, that when i wanted to install OS/2
after Win95 & 3.1 were installed, i wanted to put it in d: drive & i thought i had.
But when the install finished, i found that its on c: drive.  Don't ask me how.

I also have a Pent III 550 with a 30gb hard drive & 128mb RAM.  I got WinME/98SE/95 on
c: drives (i know you're all scratching your heads: "why 3 Windows?"  I have reasons
but its too long to explain)

Anyway, I want to install OS/2 but i'm reluctant to, coz of the >8g hard drive & >64mb
RAM situation.  I've read all the emails over & over again and gone to Tech Support web
sites on how to go about it....even downloaded the required files. But the thing
is....i'm scared.

I have quite a few questions but coz this topic's been covered over & over again, i can
envision you all thinking: "Not again!"

Anyway Daryl, i hope i've solved your problems.


Cheers
Peter Calman



Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Hi,
> You know, I was starting to think Windoze wasn't so bad after all, but my 1st hand
> experience with a Windoze  98 Box has reconfirmed my suspicions.
>
> If anyone wants to email me off-list with a solution other than format c: feel free.
>
> A friend of mine said her Internet connection was unreliable, so I offered to
> investigate.
>
> Making a note of the existing settings, I started to tune the PPP connection
> settings, but mysteriously, it then just stopped working, it has stayed that way
> despite:
>
> Reversing the configuration changes.
>
> Deleting the modem configuration & reinstalling the internal hardware modem as a
> non-PnP modem, confirming there were no hardware conflicts.
>
> Deleting the Dialup configuration & re-creating it.
>
> Un-installing Dial-Up Adapter & TCP/IP. (Note the files were not deleted)
>
> *Upgrading* to from Win98->Win98 SE.
>
> This computer is a right PITA.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Daryl  Pilkington
>

2=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:19:43 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Me too.

steve

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:07:31 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Off to look at http://www.paragon.de  I guess that's what their
>website will be called
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

3=============================================

Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:34:45 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [Fwd: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up]

Hi Peter,
  Hardware manager will not show your modem, only the com port. (whether
internal or external modem).

   Which dialer are you using ? If you are uing the "dial other
internet provider" dialer, it's highly likely it won't list your 
modem and in most cases it doesn't need to. Unless you have a 
really weird modem it'll be Hayes compatible and that's what
you should select. You can then fine tune settings via an
initialisation string (this is effectively all Windoze modem
"drivers" are anyway).

  You should consider using the In-joy dialer from FX
communications though. it is quite simply the best dialer for
OS/2 and registered versions allow you to run NAT - linking
several PCs to your ISP via one phone line & one account.

 Check it out at   http://www.fx.de

Cheers/2

Ed.

Peter wrote:
> But the irony of all this is that i still haven't solved my dialup networking on OS/2.
> The modem doesn't appear in the hardware list.  Should it?

4=============================================

Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:57:14 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Hi Steve,
If you want to change the topic could you change the header:
Boot managers, (was [OT] Internet Dial-Up)

I get >100 emails a day from ListServs, help me to scan through this
information quickly by not having more than 1 topic in the email.

Hope Ed & others have given you some guidance on this one.

Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 
> Daryl.
> Since you brought up the W word.
> 
> I have boot manager, warp4 on E:, ntloader on a small dos partition c:, nt on J: and I could make D:
> free at 400Meg.
> 
SNIP
>
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
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<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

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               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

5=============================================

Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:05:59 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ct: Re: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Thanks Peter,
Your key point:-Internet connection Wizard should help me out.

Where is this?
Will this be installed when I select Communications for re-installation?

(Remember, your talking to some-one who doesn't use Windows, doesn't
care & rarely looks at a Windows box,  <g>)

Peter wrote:
> 
> Daryl,
> 
> With the Win98SE Dialup, I had the same problem.
> 
> What i did was, went into Control Panel...Add/Remove Programs..Windows Setup &
> de-select Communications.  Click OK & reboot.
> 
> When you get back, go into Control Panel etc, select Communications (select whatever
> options you want).  Then click OK.  Win98 will then ask for the cd so it can be done.
> You then might have reboot.
> 
> When you get back again, to set up the Dialup Networking, you must use the Internet
> Connection Wizard...not Dialup Networking in My Computer.  (You didn't say which method
> you used)
> 
> But the irony of all this is that i still haven't solved my dialup networking on OS/2.
> The modem doesn't appear in the hardware list.  Should it?
> 
SNIP
>
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

6=============================================

Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:12:25 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Hi Ed,
Love to, if it would run:
MS Netmeeting
Logictech USB internet camera
MYOB v10
MS Office 2000
The above are *essential* & cannot be substituted.

Is OS/2 Warp 4.5 available in Mandarin yet?

This box is English/Mandarin!!!

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
SNIP
> 
> As I said, you could upgrade the system to OS/2 Warp 4.5 !!
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.
> 
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

7=============================================

Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:16:22 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] eComstation release in Sydney ?

Hi Ed,

An Install-Fest in Sydney is on the cards.

Both Mark & I want to see how the Melbourne one goes 1st.
Yes, Adelaide has also been mentioned.

Look for an announcement on this ListServ!

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> I have seen postings on this an other listserves of eComstation
> demonstrations and even Install fests all over the place over the
> next couple of weeks. Bay Area California, Phoenix Arizona,
> Melbourne and I think even something in Adelaide (?) but what
> about Sydney ??
> 
> Is Mark or Daryl monitoring this istserve - can they give us
> an update on this ??
> 
> Perhaps there's not enough OS/2 Users in Sydney to warrant it ?
> 
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.

-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

8=============================================

From: "voytek" <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:25:31 +1000
Subject: Re: [os2genau] eComstation release in Sydney ?

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:07:36 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Is Mark or Daryl monitoring this istserve - can they give us
>an update on this ?? 

I've asked Mark several month ago, to make a presentation to the OS/2 SIG, he didn't seem to think it was needed or whatever

9=============================================

Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:23:37 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: [os2genau] USB Internet Cameras

Hi,
Has anyone got USB Internet Cameras to work with OS/2?

-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

10=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:34:36 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

There is a note in the PM 5.0 manual about PM expecting partition 
boundaries to be on cylinder boundaries. I am not sure if this was the 
reason it would not work for me. I think OS/2 and linux allow partition 
boundaries to be on sectors, mine certainly are not on cylinder 
boundaries. The manual says that for proper use on linux and OS/2 the 
partitions should have been created with PM prior to installing the OS.

steve

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:46:57 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:

>I have not come across PM not "liking" os/2 partitions unless you mean
>PM keeps offering to fix them.  To which I say yes.
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

11=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:58:23 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] subject

Daryl.
Point taken, correct subject is very important for efficient 
reading.
I have just clicked on reply and notice the subject and content 
disparity, seems to creep in in many messages, most of the PM 
discussions have an internet dial-up subject.

steve
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

12=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:15:12 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] paragon

Bob.
I went to the site and it looks interesting.
Downloaded the demmo that won't run under os/2 (unexpected dos 
error 23) or dos.

Only $39us now, what do you run it under.
I don't fancy expending $39 to find its as usefull as PM 5.0.

steve

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:14:39 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Actually the URL is:
>
>http://www.paragon-gmbh dot com/n_systutil.htm
>
>Ed.
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

13=============================================

From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:29:58 +1000
Subject: Re: [os2genau] paragon

Hi,


Paragon is at least as usefull as PM with the added bonus
that it WILL work on a WinNT/2000 server.  PM will NOT
even RUN when booted from dos floppy, which is the safest
to run either of these partition programs.


Like PM and DriveImage, Paragon installs into Win9x/Me/NT/2000
but will not run in Win2000 (although it said it would, apparently 
was last checked on Win2000 beta 3 not the final product.)

I have yet to email Paragon.

However, in all Windows systems, Paragon enables the creation
of a SINGLE (Win9x) dos bootable floppy and this is what I used
on the WinNT 4 server at work.
In win2000 (probably also in WinNT) you have to feed the boot 
floppy creation program a Bootable Win9x floppy WITH MSCDEX.EXE 
on it, although it did not use mscdex.exe.
Go figure.


The price you quoted is correct but when I went to purchase online
I selected payment by "Digital River" and they gave an additional 
option of about $2.99 or so, which enables me to re-download the 
file again in the event my hard drive copy is accidentally deleted etc.

And since my boss is GOING to reimburse me, I choose the extra expense.
(After all, I can't loose here.!)

"Digital River" installed an "Ebot" that apparently enables this function.
I concluded the transaction while in Win2000 and NOTE, I could not
fill in all the forms, as the YEAR for my visa card would not display 
under Netscape 4.77 running under Win2000.

I had to restart the transaction and complete with Internet Explorer.
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( 

The upside was that I completed the transaction and received the file
almost immediately.  This was mid afternoon last Sunday.!


Robert Traynor (BobT)



On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:15:12 +1300 (NZDT), Steve Edmonds wrote:

>Bob.
>I went to the site and it looks interesting.
>Downloaded the demmo that won't run under os/2 (unexpected dos 
>error 23) or dos.
>
>Only $39us now, what do you run it under.
>I don't fancy expending $39 to find its as usefull as PM 5.0.
>
>steve
>
>On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:14:39 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>>Actually the URL is:
>>
>>http://www.paragon-gmbh dot com/n_systutil.htm
>>
>>Ed.
>_______________
>Steve Edmonds
>Steve71atattglobal dot net
>

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

14=============================================

From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:25:22 +1000
Subject: [os2genau] Boot managers

Steve,

PM always says Os/2 Fdisk has created the start and finish of 
partitions wrong.  PM also offers to fix an Os/2 created partition.
I always allow it to fix but NOT convert to ExtendedX.
Beware Pm 6.01 Pro as you cannot fix UNLESS you allow it to convert.!

The only way I can think of that would enable os/2 to create the
partition boundary in the wrong place would be if the disk was 
large and the os/2 was booting with the old, original, IBM1s506.add
driver.   Os/2 and Fdisk is VERY dependent on the IDE driver.

On the point you made about making all partitions with PM. I would
not do so with PM 6 or 6.01.  It was probably ok with your old PM 5
but the newer PM 6 series will automatically create ExtendedX
partitions. And this is a big NO NO.

I personally prefer to create ALL partitions, ESPECIALLY logical,
with Os/2 then let PM fix them.  (Pm 6 only, not 6.01 Pro.)

Next I format the partitions FROM THE OS or during the OS 
installation, that is going to reside or use that partition.

Exceptions are FAT 16 -format from OS/2 and then used by every OS.
Fat32 -Format from OLDEST Win9x on your system.
NTFS -format from OLDEST WinNT or Win2000 on your system.

The later PM 6 is made with the assumption that the computer it 
is being used on is running the LATEST version of Win9x or more
likely, WinMe.
And the version of Fat32 will be often more recent than the
Os2Fat32 drivers available to Os/2.  Some occassional
blips will occur.  Mine went away when I removed all files and
then formatted from Win98 (not SE) and then replaced the files.

Scandisk and Norton 2001 did not fix all the problems.
I forget exactly what the problems were, but it all settled
down after the format from Win98.


As ED said Paragon is at:-
http://www.paragon-gmbh dot com/n_systutil.htm


Robert Traynor (BobT)



On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:34:36 +1300 (NZDT), Steve Edmonds wrote:

>There is a note in the PM 5.0 manual about PM expecting partition 
>boundaries to be on cylinder boundaries. I am not sure if this was the 
>reason it would not work for me. I think OS/2 and linux allow partition 
>boundaries to be on sectors, mine certainly are not on cylinder 
>boundaries. The manual says that for proper use on linux and OS/2 the 
>partitions should have been created with PM prior to installing the OS.
>
>steve
>
>On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:46:57 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:
>
>>I have not come across PM not "liking" os/2 partitions unless you mean
>>PM keeps offering to fix them.  To which I say yes.
>_______________
>Steve Edmonds
>Steve71atattglobal dot net
>

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 


15=============================================

From: "Alan Duval" <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epston Stylus Installation
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:12:07 +1000

Hi Ed,

I,ve found that I can open the Epson utilities and use the various buttons
to clean the nozzle and check the alignment --so the computer can interact
with the printer but I still can't get it to print.
What fixpak level do you have on your system?
I am wondering whether I need the latest fixpak. At present I have fixpak
12. I am wondering whether the driver is only configured for the latest
fixpak.
When I click print for a document there is a single flicker of the on light
but nothing else. I have checked the spooler but no jobs are listed. Is
there any other way to get the printer to recognise the print command or to
associate the spooler with the item to be printed?

Alan

16=============================================

From: "Michael Block" <mblockatoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:52:48 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epston Stylus Installation

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:12:07 +1000, Alan Duval wrote:

>Hi Ed,
>
>I,ve found that I can open the Epson utilities and use the various buttons
>to clean the nozzle and check the alignment --so the computer can interact
>with the printer but I still can't get it to print.

are you SURE that you have the printer and application set
to print the same pasge size?

regards

Michael Block
---------------------------> Caca et declina medicus

http://members.optushome dot com dot au/mblock/perinatal.html
The www home of perinatal psychiatry

17=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:00:51 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Boot managers

Bob, 
running PM again it seems errors reported are to do with 
partition boundaries not on cylinder boundaries and not on head 
boundaries. I.E. PM doesn't like a partition to start or end on 
anything other than first or last head.
The majority of errors are on the partitions containing nt, as 
was the case of another table I had to edit to recover an nt 
drive. PM completely gets the geometry of my 3rd drive wrong 
(formatted with linux and working fine) and I daren't let PM at 
that. 
Partitioning of first 2 3gig drives would have been done in 98 
with the then current IBM1s506.add driver.

The thing is I suppose that its all running fine and reporting no 
errors and I would hate to let PM fix what goes fine and break 
it. Backing up 6 gig and having to recover if PM fails isn't 
appealing.

steve

On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:25:22 +1000, Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:

>Steve,
>
>PM always says Os/2 Fdisk has created the start and finish of 
>partitions wrong.  PM also offers to fix an Os/2 created 
partition.
>I always allow it to fix but NOT convert to ExtendedX.
>Beware Pm 6.01 Pro as you cannot fix UNLESS you allow it to 
convert.!
>
>The only way I can think of that would enable os/2 to create the
>partition boundary in the wrong place would be if the disk was 
>large and the os/2 was booting with the old, original, 
IBM1s506.add
>driver.   Os/2 and Fdisk is VERY dependent on the IDE driver.
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

18=============================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:17:27 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epston Stylus Installation

Alan,
If you go to your printer object, rt. click, change status and hold, then when 
you print if a job spools it should show in the printer window.
I guess if the print job shows, its spooling ok and getting lost on the way to 
the port.

I am not sure about this printer support for plain text. Should it print plain 
text (copy autoexec.bat lpt1:). 

If so and when you print from an application nothing shows in the printer 
window, try draging autoexec.bat to the window. Select plain text. If the job 
shows release the hold, if it prints the ports working.

steve

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:12:07 +1000, Alan Duval wrote:

>When I click print for a document there is a single flicker of the on light
>but nothing else. I have checked the spooler but no jobs are listed. Is
>there any other way to get the printer to recognise the print command or to
>associate the spooler with the item to be printed?
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

19=============================================

Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 21:59:56 +1000
From: Peter <pedrosatsub dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] ubject: [Fwd: [os2genau] ct: Re: [OT] Internet Dial-Up]

Daryl...

Sorry about the delay.


Go to Start...Programs...Accessories...Internet Tools...ICW


Cheers
Peter


Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Thanks Peter,
> Your key point:-Internet connection Wizard should help me out.
>
> Where is this?
> Will this be installed when I select Communications for re-installation?
>
> (Remember, your talking to some-one who doesn't use Windows, doesn't
> care & rarely looks at a Windows box,  <g>)
>
> Peter wrote:
> >
> > Daryl,
> >
> > With the Win98SE Dialup, I had the same problem.
> >
> > What i did was, went into Control Panel...Add/Remove Programs..Windows Setup &
> > de-select Communications.  Click OK & reboot.
> >
> > When you get back, go into Control Panel etc, select Communications (select whatever
> > options you want).  Then click OK.  Win98 will then ask for the cd so it can be done.
> > You then might have reboot.
> >
> > When you get back again, to set up the Dialup Networking, you must use the Internet
> > Connection Wizard...not Dialup Networking in My Computer.  (You didn't say which method
> > you used)
> >
> > But the irony of all this is that i still haven't solved my dialup networking on OS/2.
> > The modem doesn't appear in the hardware list.  Should it?
> >
> SNIP
> >
> --
> Regards,
>
> Daryl  Pilkington
>
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           ICQ: 91914134
>           Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
>           Mob: +61-425-251-300
>           Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
>       Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
>                (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:16:30 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [OT] Internet Dial-Up

Direct subsitutions are always difficult. The best way
to re-engineer a system is to start with the requirements .....

The requirements .........  Not a list of tradenames.

You need a way to conference with colleagues / friends -
perhaps a web based solution, that all can use - If you 
emember I ran just such a product in an OS/2 UG of SA
group meeting a couple of years ago.

You need a webcam / videoconferencing setup. Use an
Axis camera/web server and simply put it on the 
ethernet network.

You need an accounting package again a web hosted 
ASP solution is very good and cheaper is you don't want
to be an accountant.

You need a word processing package - why ??  Do you want
to use ALL the bells and whistles features, or do you just 
want to write letters ?  Do you need spreadsheet type
capabilities ??  For *THE MAJORITY* of users a full blown
office package is expensive overkill. If you particularly chose
MS - why ?  If you're looking to exchange documents use
one of the internationally approved and regulated interchange
formats - heck why not HTML !

So I challenge your statement that the particular packages that
you stated are *essential* and cannot be substituted. They can
be if the whole solution is rethought, to be a more open and
cost effective, easier to maintain and use one.

As for a mandarin version of OS/2 Warp Convienince pack, I'm
not sure. I believe there is a Chinese version but whether this
is a Mandarin Chinese or not, I could not say.

Cheers/2

Ed.

P.S.can you reduce the page of credits at the end of your notes?
The ISP has had to add another 20GB of diskspace to the
 mailserver to accomodate it  ;>

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> Love to, if it would run:
> MS Netmeeting
> Logictech USB internet camera
> MYOB v10
> MS Office 2000
> The above are *essential* & cannot be substituted.
> 
> Is OS/2 Warp 4.5 available in Mandarin yet?
> 
> This box is English/Mandarin!!!

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:16:42 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] USB Internet Cameras

I've now got an intel chipset PC at work, if you can loan me the
camera I am willing to try it out for you, but I guess we need an
application to run with it as well as simply the drivers !

Cheers/2

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Has anyone got USB Internet Cameras to work with OS/2?
> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Daryl  Pilkington
> 
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
> 
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           ICQ: 91914134
>           Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
>           Mob: +61-425-251-300
>           Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
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>                (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:17:10 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Drives application causing hangs

Has anyone else experienced this problem ? On different machines - at
different FP levels (one at FP15, another at Warp-CP), I get at least
twice a day a situation where I have
to use the three fingered C-A-D salute on my system. It 
happens when I open a sub-folder from the Drives application.
The harddisk continually trashes and nothing else responds -
C-A-D is the only option.

It's embaressing as apart from this, the systems are VERY stable.

Both systems have prently of free diskspace, memory and
processor - so it's not a resource issue. 

Help/2

ED.

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:17:14 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] ESS 1988 (Allegro) Audio drivers for OS/2 ??

Has anyone got a system using this chipset ? It's a combined
audio/modem chipset. It's supposed to be compatible with sound
blaster, so I'll try those drivers however if I could find "real"
drivers for it for OS/2 I'd probably stand a better chance of 
getting it working. Suffice to say the manufcturers site
http://www.ess-tech dot com   does not list OS/2 drivers.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:17:06 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epston Stylus Installation

This is getting REALLY strange. I'm running at FP15 but FP12 
"should" be OK.

Have you tried printing from the command line ?

With the spooler turned off ?

>From different applications - EPM, Netscape etc.

Do any of these give different messages / actions ??

Cheers/2

Ed.


Alan Duval wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> I,ve found that I can open the Epson utilities and use the various buttons
> to clean the nozzle and check the alignment --so the computer can interact
> with the printer but I still can't get it to print.
> What fixpak level do you have on your system?
> I am wondering whether I need the latest fixpak. At present I have fixpak
> 12. I am wondering whether the driver is only configured for the latest
> fixpak.

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:20:05 +1100
From: Alan Duval <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epston Stylus Installation

Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 
> Alan,
> If you go to your printer object, rt. click, change status and hold, then when
> you print if a job spools it should show in the printer window. 

Yes it did

> I guess if the print job shows, its spooling ok and getting lost on the way to
> the port.
> 
> I am not sure about this printer support for plain text. Should it print plain
> text (copy autoexec.bat lpt1:).

The printer printed autoexec.bat


What else can I do?

Alan

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:36:08 +1100
From: Alan Duval <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epston Stylus Installation

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> This is getting REALLY strange. I'm running at FP15 but FP12
> "should" be OK.
> 
> Have you tried printing from the command line ?

Just did. Printed autoexec.bat successfully.
> 
> With the spooler turned off ?

Didn't work.

> 
> >From different applications - EPM, Netscape etc.

Tried from Lotus Smartsuite, Staroffice and Netscape. Didn't print
anything and no messages shown.
> 
> Do any of these give different messages / actions ??


Alan

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From: "Gavin Miller" <paxtonatiaa dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:30:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epston Stylus Installation

Hi Alan,

I've been following this thread for a while as I'm on the lookout for a decent res printer for my art I do at home.  
When you mentioned this, it reminded me of a problem I had at work:

>When I click print for a document there is a single flicker of the on light
>but nothing else. I have checked the spooler but no jobs are listed. Is
>there any other way to get the printer to recognise the print command or to
>associate the spooler with the item to be printed?

I've had a similar problem with a couple of laser printers at work.  Aparently the PCL5 drivers are picky with 
the paper forms.  I don't know if the epsom is using PCL5 or not, but set your printer display to details as the 
default and see if the message "Forms Mismatch" is there.  I've not had this problem with any PS drivers for 
the lasers at work, and my Canon 4200 works a treat at home.  Basically any forms mismatch will result in the 
behaviour you described.  It could be as simple as different paper sizes between the printer and app setings 
(or if you're unlucky the thickness of the paper, as was the case at work).

I hope this helps you out.  Ed seems to have exhausted the hardware issues.
Cheers

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:25:14 +1100
From: Alan Duval <amohtatozemail dot com dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Success


Gavin Miller wrote:
> I've had a similar problem with a couple of laser printers at work.  Aparently the PCL5 drivers are picky with
> the paper forms.  I don't know if the epsom is using PCL5 or not, but set your printer display to details as the
> default and see if the message "Forms Mismatch" is there.  I've not had this problem with any PS drivers for
> the lasers at work, and my Canon 4200 works a treat at home.  Basically any forms mismatch will result in the
> behaviour you described.  It could be as simple as different paper sizes between the printer and app setings
> (or if you're unlucky the thickness of the paper, as was the case at work).
> 
> I hope this helps you out.  Ed seems to have exhausted the hardware issues.
> Cheers

I've finally got it printing. The printer was set on photo quality so I
changed it to text/graph and presto it's printing. Beforehand I checked
that the document was set to A4. I'm sure I did this before and didn't
get any response but maybe I didn't check the paper size. Never used to
be a problem with my HP printer as it would still print if the page size
was different.
I did put fixpak 15 on tonight but was still having no luck.
Maybe printing in plain text a few times shocked it into life.

Thanks everyone for your help. You guys are really great.

Alan

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From: "Stan Pallis" <spallisatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ESS 1988 (Allegro) Audio drivers for OS/2 ??
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:44:50 +1000

Ed,

I don't know if you seen this, but it may help
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/es198x.zip

stan...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Durrant [mailto:edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2001 10:17 PM
To: os2genauatos2 dot org dot au
Subject: [os2genau] ESS 1988 (Allegro) Audio drivers for OS/2 ??


Has anyone got a system using this chipset ? It's a combined
audio/modem chipset. It's supposed to be compatible with sound
blaster, so I'll try those drivers however if I could find "real"
drivers for it for OS/2 I'd probably stand a better chance of
getting it working. Suffice to say the manufcturers site
http://www.ess-tech dot com   does not list OS/2 drivers.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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