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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:38:07 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] can't access c: thru WPS


Michael Block schreef:

> I've had this problem before but I've forgotten why or how
> I fixed it!! Every time I access my C partition thru the
> WPS, it crashes the WPS. C: has my warp4.5 OS on it. All
> other partitions are accessible. I can access C thru a
> command line without problems
> regards

You need a chkdsk /F:3 against that partition.

And before anyone dares to bumb in: chkdsk /F:3 is not dangerous!


--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris


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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 20:45:34 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Opera for OS/2 Beta Released



Ed Durrant schreef:

> Yes, Last week.
>
> But this is still a beta, and there are some problems with it

Only problem is you need a good working Odin package onyour system. Meaning for instance
you need a batchfile in order to have a happy Opera launch.


--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris


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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:44:53 
From: Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Opera for OS/2 Beta Released

** Reply to note from Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl> Sun, 22 Jul 2001 20:45:34 +0200


> Only problem is you need a good working Odin package onyour system. Meaning 
> for instance 
> you need a batchfile in order to have a happy Opera launch.

Are you saying, I need to have/install ODIN before I can try Opera ?



Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 

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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:08:16 +0900 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Bigpond passwords stolen

On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 22:43:04, Voytek Eymont wrote:

>** Reply to note from "Bob Ogden" <bobatcontact.omen dot com dot au> Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:40:52 +0900
>
>
>> http://www.whirlpool dot net dot au/
>
>they don't like my browser...:
>
>Whirlpool strongly advises you to  upgrade your web browser. 
>
>(btw, StG bank NO LONGER checks browser compliance, N/2 works again...)

I wonder if Telstra would happen to be using NT servers? Especially
since MS trumpeted loud and long 3-4 years back that they had
displaced OS/2 in "mission-critical" network applications areas. 

Wonder if Telstra bods have actually made the connection between the
two events??


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:44:31 +1100 (EDT)
From: Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Executive Speaks Out on Linux and OS/2

Hi Ed

sigh!!  The gist of the interview was I felt.,    we will help you all to move to anything 
else so long as its  away from OS2!

Despite all this I have a gut feeling that gradually the world is waking up and MS by 
its present pricing of windows  OS and  MS Office , will eventually bring down its 
own downfall!  sad that IBM is not quietly preparing OS2 to be there when it 
happens!  

On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:13:45 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>IBM Executive Discusses IBM's Role in Linux
>
> http://slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=01/07/16/1326224
> (no final slash)
>
>  From Slashdot: IBM's director of Linux Solutions
>  Marketing responds to ten user questions about
>  IBM's role in the evolution of Linux. His topics
>  include content creation rights, PowerPC**, AIX*,
>  IBM's backing, distributions, OS/2*, AS/400*,
>  metrics, Lotus Notes, and openness.
>
>Cheers/2
>Ed.
>

Graham Norton
President
OS2 Users Group SA

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:22:55 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Executive Speaks Out on Linux and OS/2

Correct, OS/2 will never take over from Windows but then again Linux won't
either.

The future is NO OS on the workstation - or if you prefer - it doesn't matter which
OS is on the workstation - as long as it can support a standards compliant browser
and JAVA.

This is going to take a couple of years, may be 5 to  come, but come it will with
network devices taking over from PCs. The "grunt" will return to the central systems,
and only if there's a very special reason will anyone need a personal workstation.
In this case it'd probably be a unix based power workstation.

In short, it's back to the simple efficient days of the 70s and 80s but with all the
useful advances from the last two decades and none of the bloat.

I don't think Microsoft will ever be able to realise this, let alone evolve to it. IBM
is already planning it and providing the route there for large corporates, whether
they are presently on OS/2, NT, Novell or Linux.

.......   Hmm - that should provoke some coments !!

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:

> Hi Ed
>
> sigh!!  The gist of the interview was I felt.,    we will help you all to move to anything
> else so long as its  away from OS2!
>
> Despite all this I have a gut feeling that gradually the world is waking up and MS by
> its present pricing of windows  OS and  MS Office , will eventually bring down its
> own downfall!  sad that IBM is not quietly preparing OS2 to be there when it
> happens!
>
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:13:45 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> >IBM Executive Discusses IBM's Role in Linux
> >
> > http://slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=01/07/16/1326224
> > (no final slash)
> >
> >  From Slashdot: IBM's director of Linux Solutions
> >  Marketing responds to ten user questions about
> >  IBM's role in the evolution of Linux. His topics
> >  include content creation rights, PowerPC**, AIX*,
> >  IBM's backing, distributions, OS/2*, AS/400*,
> >  metrics, Lotus Notes, and openness.
> >
> >Cheers/2
> >Ed.
> >
>
> Graham Norton
> President
> OS2 Users Group SA
>

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From: "Steve Edmonds" <steveatedmondsfamily.co.nz>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:28:45 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Executive Speaks Out on Linux and OS/2

Were you in my office this morning?.

I was discussing this with a work mate, saying that for most families
an os2 or linux box could today easily provide the power for all
household computing except serious gaming, even for a family of 10, if
"terminals" were used. These would be on an RF lan, lcd diplay, etc.

Sony have a new BeOs network device, there are a few linux devices, sun
has produced for in house use some thousands (and thousands) of linux
devices that boot in 7 seconds or something. The time is comming, the
technology is here now.

I also se that XP will not install with java support by default. It
will be up to the user to install a java runtime.

steve

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:22:55 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Correct, OS/2 will never take over from Windows but then again Linux won't
>either.
>
>The future is NO OS on the workstation - or if you prefer - it doesn't matter which
>OS is on the workstation - as long as it can support a standards compliant browser
>and JAVA.
>
>This is going to take a couple of years, may be 5 to  come, but come it will with
>network devices taking over from PCs. The "grunt" will return to the central systems,
>and only if there's a very special reason will anyone need a personal workstation.
>In this case it'd probably be a unix based power workstation.
>
>In short, it's back to the simple efficient days of the 70s and 80s but with all the
>useful advances from the last two decades and none of the bloat.
>
>I don't think Microsoft will ever be able to realise this, let alone evolve to it. IBM
>is already planning it and providing the route there for large corporates, whether
>they are presently on OS/2, NT, Novell or Linux.
>
>......   Hmm - that should provoke some coments !!
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.
>
>Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>> sigh!!  The gist of the interview was I felt.,    we will help you all to move to anything
>> else so long as its  away from OS2!
>>
>> Despite all this I have a gut feeling that gradually the world is waking up and MS by
>> its present pricing of windows  OS and  MS Office , will eventually bring down its
>> own downfall!  sad that IBM is not quietly preparing OS2 to be there when it
>> happens!
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:13:45 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>> >IBM Executive Discusses IBM's Role in Linux
>> >
>> > http://slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=01/07/16/1326224
>> > (no final slash)
>> >
>> >  From Slashdot: IBM's director of Linux Solutions
>> >  Marketing responds to ten user questions about
>> >  IBM's role in the evolution of Linux. His topics
>> >  include content creation rights, PowerPC**, AIX*,
>> >  IBM's backing, distributions, OS/2*, AS/400*,
>> >  metrics, Lotus Notes, and openness.
>> >
>> >Cheers/2
>> >Ed.
>> >
>>
>> Graham Norton
>> President
>> OS2 Users Group SA
>>
>


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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:46:10 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Opera for OS/2 Beta Released


Voytek Eymont schreef:

> ** Reply to note from Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl> Sun, 22 Jul 2001 20:45:34 +0200
>
> > Only problem is you need a good working Odin package onyour system. Meaning
> > for instance
> > you need a batchfile in order to have a happy Opera launch.
>
> Are you saying, I need to have/install ODIN before I can try Opera ?

Yep. You have to.


--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris


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From: "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:49:18 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Outage

Hi all

Apologies for the outage over the past hour, our main UPS deceided
to blow its output stage, took a while before I smelt it :-(

Lets hope there are no power failures until I get it fixed, or
replaced :-)

Of cause it would have to be os2site dot com and os2 dot org dot au UPS.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

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