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Friday 20 January 2006
 Number  1246
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Subjects for today
 
1   MelbPC os2 SIG Meeting for Jan 2006 : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
2  Re:  LCD Monitor : Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au>
3   Print Server Configuration - help please : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
4   eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
5  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
6  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please : Trevor Jacobs <trevor_j at melbpc dot org dot au>
7  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
8  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
10  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>

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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:28:41 +1000
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:   MelbPC os2 SIG Meeting for Jan 2006

 We would like to remind you of the monthly 
 'Melbourne PC Users Group OS/2 SIG' meeting.

    !! First meeting for the year !!
 Date:   Tuesday, 24nd Jan 2006
 Time:  7:00PM - 9:00PM

I will be doing a Demo of a Network/USB external box called a LanDrive.
No Website details available though, which is a bit disappointing.

Due to problems with my IBM T-30 Laptops USB in eCS, I will not
be demo-ing the USB part.  Just the Lan access.

Afterwards we will be adjourning to the usual eatery at Cafe Lecco at 9.00pm.

Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
20 January 2006   15:27



 Melbourne PC Users Group premises are located at :-
 2nd floor, Chadstone Place (near Bi-Lo)
 Chadstone Shopping Centre [ Melway 96 E4 ].  
 Victoria, Australia.

 The entrance is on the Southern side of the Centre between 
 the National Bank and My Chemist.  And another entrance 
 for after hours access to the lift from inside the shopping centre
 opposite the Bi-Lo store.

 To give members a better chance of attending, we will start
 slightly later at 7.00pm.

 The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG 
 Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month.
 Except December.


   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au
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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:22:51 +1100
From:  "Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  LCD Monitor

** Reply to message from Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net> on Thu, 19 Jan
2006 21:47:27 +1030
Just bought a ViewSonic VA905. (19")
Cost me $425 including the DVI cable.
The digital input makes a world of improvement over analogue.

I've used it for drawing with CorelDraw and am very happy with the image shown.

Also I've throughly tested with test software (Call of Duty 2) and can report
that it's great with all graphics set to very best.

Here's the spec's page for those interested.

LCD Type
Color Filter
Glass Surface
19? (full 19" viewable diagonal area),
TFT (Thin Film Transistor), Active Matrix XGA LCD,
0.294 mm pixel pitch
RGB vertical stripe
Anti-Glare
Panel tilt 0°, +20°
Input Signal Analog
Digital
RGB analog (0Vp-p, 75 ohms)
Separate Sync
TMDS (100 Ohm)
fh:30-80 kHz, fv:50-75 Hz
Compatibility PC
Macintosh1
Up to 1280 x 1024 Non-interlaced
Power Macintosh up to 1280 x 1024
Resolution Recommended
and supported
1280 x 1024  at  60, 75 Hz
1024 x 768  at  60, 70, 75 Hz
832 x 624  at  75 Hz
800 x 600  at  56, 60, 72, 75 Hz
720 x 400  at  70 Hz
640 x 480  at  60, 67, 75 Hz
Power Voltage 100-240 VAC, 50/60 Hz (auto switch)
Display area Full Scan 378 mm (H) x 303 mm (V)
14.8" (H) x 11.9" (V)
Operating
conditions
Temperature
Humidity
Altitude
32° F to + 104° F (0° C to + 40° C)
10% to 90% (non-condensing)
To 10,000 feet
Storage
conditions
Temperature
Humidity
Altitude
-4° F to + 140° F (-20° C to + 60° C)
5% to 90% (non-condensing)
To 40,000 feet
Dimensions Physical 415 mm (W) x 434 mm (H) x 201 mm (D)
16.3" (W) x 17.1" (H) x 7.9" (D)
Weight Net 11.7 lb (5.3 kg)
Regulations BSMI, PSB, C-Tick, TCO'99, ENERGY STARŽ
Power saving
modes
On
Off
Normal (green LED)
<2W (orange LED)
Preset Timing Mode (pre-adjusted to VESAŽ 1280 x 1024  at  60 Hz)
Warning: Do not set the graphics card in your computer to exceed these refresh
rates; doing so may result in
permanent damage to the LCD display.

Regards,
Michael
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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:35:11 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:   Print Server Configuration - help please

We have just aquired a bargain print server
Intel Netport Express PRO 
Device ID: PR8D853D
Mac address: 00A0C98D853D
Serial No: 651825-007 8D853D37713
Ports: 
a) network: RJ-45, BNC 
b) printer: 2 parallel, 1 serial
 
Will supposedly support all OS, via NetBios, TCP, IPX and Appletalk

We have retrieved electronic manual in PDF (60 pages)

We see it in Net View but it doesn't respond to a Net View command to
configure it.

It's 40C here so Christopher is going to wait for cooler weather, but I
wonder if anyone has experience with this unit, and can help us figure out
what we need to do (AND not do).

We have configured TCP/IP in 192.168 range.

We have printed a few things with eg. drag/n/drop but some apps (in
particular DeScribe wp) don't see the server and can't find the printer
connected thereto.
 
How do we "tell" its netbios about our network configurations (eg. passwords
for valid users)?


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:43:37 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:   eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

Hi all 

Happy New Year to any who might have wondered what happened to December...

Over the holiday season (ha!) it was necessary to re-install OS/2-eCS on my
system, so we upgraded to v1.2.

Having a separate partition made it relatively painless, but we had to
re-create lots of program objects, desktop tools, Warpcenter tray contents
and all that boring stuff.

System is quite functional once again, but a few irritations remain.

One of these is in using Faxworks/PMFax. Actual operation is fine (receiving
& sending faxes). 

However, trying to print a fax is a chore - I can't print direct out of
PMFax, and I can't print a TIF created  by PMFax (using say PMView Pro 3.23).

I can print a DCX file of the fax (the only other option for saving the file
out of PMFax) from PMView Pro, but I get a leading page of garbage, then the
fax page/s print fine. 

What am I doing wrong, please?


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:48:13 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:35:11 +1100 (AEDT), John Angelico wrote:

>We have just aquired a bargain print server
>Intel Netport Express PRO 
>Device ID: PR8D853D
>Mac address: 00A0C98D853D
>Serial No: 651825-007 8D853D37713
>Ports: 
>a) network: RJ-45, BNC 
>b) printer: 2 parallel, 1 serial
> 
>Will supposedly support all OS, via NetBios, TCP, IPX and Appletalk
>
>We have retrieved electronic manual in PDF (60 pages)
>
>We see it in Net View but it doesn't respond to a Net View command to
>configure it.

You shouldn't/couldn't configure it this way, it will need either a telnet
or web based connected to get into it to configure it.

>It's 40C here so Christopher is going to wait for cooler weather, but I
>wonder if anyone has experience with this unit, and can help us figure out
>what we need to do (AND not do).
>
>We have configured TCP/IP in 192.168 range.

How did you do this?

>We have printed a few things with eg. drag/n/drop but some apps (in
>particular DeScribe wp) don't see the server and can't find the printer
>connected thereto.
> 
>How do we "tell" its netbios about our network configurations (eg. passwords
>for valid users)?

See:

http://www.ehsco dot com/reading/19971027ir1.html

And the first screen shot shows an options for "Microsoft Network
Printing", I'd imaging that it is in there.

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA


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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:14:33 +1100
From:  Trevor Jacobs <trevor_j at melbpc dot org dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please

Greetings John,

I don't have such an os/2-ecs setup (yet!), and I realise that your 
question relates in part to networking rather than p/s setup.
I do have some experience with getting HP LJ printers to go with print 
servers, albeit Win, so this might assist. (My networked LJ4+ is a gem 
provided it has warmed up/self-tested before the first print of the day 
is sent.)

The one piece of advice which I have indelibly on my mind, from a guy 
who seemed to have all the answers when I was looking, is that you 
should use IP addressing and give the p/s a _static_ IP even if you use 
a DHCP server on your LAN. If the p/s will accommodate other protocols, 
he reckons "disable them if you can".  The IP needs to fall outside the 
DHCP allocatable range but within the mask.    (However, I don't know 
_why_ he reckons this to be "the way" - it might just be that it's 
easier for lazy installers !  OTOH, if it's a method which fails less 
often for hard-bitten support staff, then the advice would seem worthy 
of an ear.  But I dunno for sure.)
After that, the recommendations were :
- use/get current firmware
- rtfm (esp if there are switches to set)
- reset everything and start fresh ("no-one else is ever the same"!!)
- use the interface (web, telnet, ..) provided (ie don't try to be clever)

 From memory, he also thought serial connections for printers just added 
to the complexity, so use parallel if possible.

Now, how that will tally with the expertise coming your way from people 
who (unlike me) actually know their os/2-ecs, and might not favour 
TCP/IP, I can't say.  So YMMV.

But after the support you've given me, I hope it helps.

tj
=======
John Angelico wrote:
> We have just aquired a bargain print server
> Intel Netport Express PRO 
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:15:53 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax


On Fri, January 20, 2006 10:43 pm, John Angelico wrote:

> However, trying to print a fax is a chore - I can't print direct out of
> PMFax, and I can't print a TIF created  by PMFax (using say PMView Pro
> 3.23).

can you print from anything ?

why can't you print, do you get a message saying ' you can't print direct
out of PMFax' ? or what actually happens ?


> I can print a DCX file of the fax (the only other option for saving the
> file out of PMFax) from PMView Pro, but I get a leading page of garbage,
> then the fax page/s print fine.


>
> What am I doing wrong, please?

using wrong printer driver ?

I actually print from PMfax to a windoze USB Lexmark Laser;
and, send faxes from windoze to pmfax



-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:29:20 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax


On Fri, January 20, 2006 11:15 pm, Voytek Eymont wrote:

> I actually print from PMfax to a windoze USB Lexmark Laser;
> and, send faxes from windoze to pmfax

oops, forgot to brag some more:

I can send PMfaxes from Palm:
Palm's PrintBoy prints over Bluetooth to windoze printer (which happens to
be fxprint)

and, yes, it came quite handy few times already, when I was able to fax
notes I've made in the field. unfortunately, PrintBoy won't print Palm's
notepad (images), these had to be uploaded via windoze


-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:36:20 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:29:20 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>
>On Fri, January 20, 2006 11:15 pm, Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>> I actually print from PMfax to a windoze USB Lexmark Laser;
>> and, send faxes from windoze to pmfax
>
>oops, forgot to brag some more:
>
>I can send PMfaxes from Palm:
>Palm's PrintBoy prints over Bluetooth to windoze printer (which happens to
>be fxprint)
>
>and, yes, it came quite handy few times already, when I was able to fax
>notes I've made in the field. unfortunately, PrintBoy won't print Palm's
>notepad (images), these had to be uploaded via windoze

Yeah, yeah, OK. 

Just focus on the problem - it's too hot here today for much else.


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:34:54 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:15:53 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

Hi Voytek

>
>On Fri, January 20, 2006 10:43 pm, John Angelico wrote:
>
>> However, trying to print a fax is a chore - I can't print direct out of
>> PMFax, and I can't print a TIF created  by PMFax (using say PMView Pro
>> 3.23).
>
>can you print from anything ?

See later comment re printing out of PMView. All other printing is OK.

>
>why can't you print, do you get a message saying ' you can't print direct
>out of PMFax' ? or what actually happens ?

After doing the usual: select printer, set properties, number of copies etc)
I get a box saying 
Fax Print
Printer Bitmap error x1015
[Retry] [Cancel] 

and at the printer I get a page with 
PCL XL error
	Subsystem: KERNEL
	Error: illegalOperatorSequence
	Operator: EndSession
	Position: 19 

>
>> I can print a DCX file of the fax (the only other option for saving the
>> file out of PMFax) from PMView Pro, but I get a leading page of garbage,
>> then the fax page/s print fine.
>
>
>>
>> What am I doing wrong, please?
>
>using wrong printer driver ?

Hmm. Is that the FxPrint driver or the Laserjet driver for Kyocera FS-1010
(which doesn't have trouble with anything else)?

>
>I actually print from PMfax to a windoze USB Lexmark Laser;
>and, send faxes from windoze to pmfax

There's hope for me yet!

PS: All was printing fine under eCS 1.1x before the installation of 1.2.

Sadly too many things changed because it was a clean install. 

Please don't ask me to try analysing the changes...
 


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
___________________

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