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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:00:12 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Netscape dropping support for 4.61

datablitzatoptusnet dot com dot au schreef:

> In <3AEBEE81.E757C5B0athome.dialix dot com>, on 04/29/2001
>    at 08:35 PM, Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com> said:
>
> "Curl" retrieves urls etc without using a browser.  It allows you to fool
> the server  by telling it whatever agent (browser) you want. However, I
> don't know if anyone has managed to create a version that is https enabled
> for OS2. I think the site is www.curl.haxx.se

It's not a www :

http://curl.haxx.se/download.html

and there is an OS/2 version. Downloading it now.

--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:49:08 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: [os2genau] St George Bank locks users out of Internet banking

Hi,
Following your story:
http://www.smh dot com dot au/news/0104/30/bizcom/bizcom5.html

I thought this would be of interest to you:

On Sunday 29th April, St George Bank "upgraded" their Internet Banking
facility only to work with Netscape 4.74->4.77 browsers. The only
problem was they gave no notice of this change nor researched if all
their customers were in a position to "upgrade" to NS 4.74, effectively
locking customers out of Internet banking.

St George's Web site claim Netscape has dropped support for anything
less than 4.74, & in a knee-jerk reaction, coded their Internet banking
to not accept 4.61, a common version used extensively by ANZ Bank.

Most people are looking to migrate to the Standards-based NS 6.0 browser
if they are currently running any version of NS 4.x. IBM haven't
bothered with the NS 4.7 strain, instead leveraging the open-source
Mozilla code to release a NS6 code-based browser.

No other Bank has implemented such draconian action as St George has.
ANZ, Commonwealth, Adelaide Bank still accept earlier browsers.

Customers of BankSA, a wholly-owned subsidiary of St George Bank were
also effected.
Formal complaints by its customers have either been ignored or put in
the "forwarded to the appropriate department for consideration..."

-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 15:27:54 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] FAT32

Hello all

I know that OS2 recognises FAT partitions but how do I get it to recognise FAT32?


Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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From: "VanEps, Brad" <BVanEpsatracq dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] FAT32
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:02:31 +1000 

Hi,

> I know that OS2 recognises FAT partitions but how do I get it 
> to recognise FAT32?

Try:

http://www.os2ss dot com/information/kelder/#FAT32

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
 Brad van Eps, B.Eng     Systems/Database Administrator
 Information Services
 Royal Automobile Club of Queensland
 2649 Logan Rd, Eight Mile Plains, QLD 4113
 Ph: (07)3361 2876       Fax: (07)3841 1048
 E-mail: bvanepsatracq dot com dot au

 OS/2 WARPed for REAL Power!
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Please Note:

This communication has been sent on behalf of The Royal Automobile Club of
Queensland Limited (RACQ).  The information contained in this communication
may be privileged and confidential.  If you are not the intended recipient,
any use, disclosure or copying of this communication is expressly
prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please delete
it immediately.  RACQ and its associated entities do not warrant or
represent that this communication (including any enclosed files) is free
from electronic viruses, faults or defects.

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 17:16:42 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] FAT32

Wow

a truely connected response - thanks a million....

now a different matter for you all

has any one managed to set up the windows/palm pilot utility software under Odin?     
It is claimed on various sites that this is a 4 star success!  (out of 5)
On Wed, 2 May 2001 16:02:31 +1000, VanEps, Brad wrote:

>Hi,
>
>> I know that OS2 recognises FAT partitions but how do I get it 
>> to recognise FAT32?
>
>Try:
>
>http://www.os2ss dot com/information/kelder/#FAT32
>
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> Brad van Eps, B.Eng     Systems/Database Administrator
> Information Services
> Royal Automobile Club of Queensland
> 2649 Logan Rd, Eight Mile Plains, QLD 4113
> Ph: (07)3361 2876       Fax: (07)3841 1048
> E-mail: bvanepsatracq dot com dot au
>
> OS/2 WARPed for REAL Power!
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>Please Note:
>
>This communication has been sent on behalf of The Royal Automobile Club of
>Queensland Limited (RACQ).  The information contained in this communication
>may be privileged and confidential.  If you are not the intended recipient,
>any use, disclosure or copying of this communication is expressly
>prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please delete
>it immediately.  RACQ and its associated entities do not warrant or
>represent that this communication (including any enclosed files) is free
>from electronic viruses, faults or defects.

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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From: mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:58:38 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SCOPY program for OS/2

Ed
    You forgot to mention that downloads from this page require membership
with OS2 dot com.

Mark

In <3AEE9F85.89B62104atbigpond dot net dot au>, on 05/01/01 
   at 09:35 PM, Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> said:

>Forgot to say you can get scopy.exe to read open OS/2 files from

>http://www.os2 dot com/download/util.html

>(Note it's not the scopy/2 program which is an archiver) but actually
>scopy.zip and it's description states it copies open files. I used to use
>it back in OS/2 2.x days to copy OS2.INI.

>Ed.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au
Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 06:58 PM
-----------
"Lord, Grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies
of the people I had to kill because they pissed me off." -----------
Mark Farnham
Mackay, Queensland, Australia.
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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:43:32 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing

Daryl

I have scrubbed the dreadful HP jet Admin and set up both HP2100TN printers as 
LPD ports  

192.168.1.130   - LPT4
192.168.1.140   - LPT6

and things seems OK and I hope this will cure the problem I wonder if it was to do 
with Jet Admin and sending page breaks to the printer?


On Tue, 01 May 2001 21:09:56 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Graham,
>
>At an OS/2 command prompt:
>syslevel >syslevel.txt
>
>Then email me the file syslevel.txt
>
>Please do this before we get you setup using lprportd.
>
>I could do screen shots for setting-up lprportd, but it would be quicker
>to talk you through it on the phone.
>
>You can ring me anytime Wednesday & I'll talk you through lprportd
>setup.
>
>Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing?
>> 
>> I am using the HP Jet Admin and I suspect that it would be better to use lprportd!  
If
>> so how do I set this up?
>> 
>> remind me how to do a syslevel print out!
>> Graham Norton FRACP
>> Neurologist
>>
>-- 
>Regards, 
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>          ICQ: 91914134
>          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
>          Mob: +61-425-251-300
>          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
>      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
>               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

Graham Norton
Neurologist

"when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows
when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

8================================================

From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 17:27:40 +0900 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Meeting Report 24 Apr 2001

OS/2 SIG Meeting Report for April 2001
by John Angelico 9544 8792 (with copy to the SIG members)

Well, numbers for our April meeting were more like what we were used to, with at least 20 members gathered.

Latest Headlines
We began with the excellent news that eComStation developments have made great progress and the final code is likely to be committed 
to manufacturing within about a week of the meeting date. Allowing for production and distribution time, this means that the new OS 
should be generally available well before the end of May.

We reported that the entire installation program had been thoroughly overhauled and was even more polished than when we saw the beta 
demonstration in February. Installation for sound cards and networking had also been automated so that the entire install from CD is now 
between 5 and 10 minutes (depending on selected options), and requires only one reboot. 

This led to discussion about the present state of drivers. Video, networking and even sound-card drivers are no longer a problem, drivers for 
Twain-compatible SCSI scanners have recently been upgraded again, USB and DVD support is steadily expanding and the famous Ray 
Gwinn SIO serial port drivers are back on the development path. There has been a recent and most welcome resurgence of OS/2 
development, spurred on by the progress with eCS.

Problem-solving Q&A
As a demonstration that even experienced OS/2ers get caught, I asked for help with a printing problem: black backgrounds on all my 
pages. The answer was that it was an old video-related bug (which I had forgotten) and I needed to reset my default folder background 
back to the system default of white. Sure enough, that fixed my problem - I had changed too many system defaults at once, and forgotten 
to check the results of my changes properly.

OS/2 News Sources
We have seen a restoration of news feeds similar to the well-loved WarpCast service, and have suddenly discovered that we have two to 
choose from. I had offered to put the news feed into the online mailing list, but that was vetoed in favour of supplying the URL for people to 
sign up for themselves. In summary, the VoiceNews service is fed through eCSNewsCast and people only need to subscribe to one of them.

Make A Note of IT!
Following a break, we introduced our guest presenter and SIG member Antony Shepherd, a Lotus Notes consultant to larger-than-average 
businesses.

He first showed a Slide-Show Demo of Notes to familiarize us with the Notes screens and terminology, and then installed and 
demonstrated Lotus Notes for us.

The fundamental concept of Notes is the filing cabinet as the central repository of all data for a defined group of people. This group can be 
anything from an individual looking after their own email or a SIG with a collected set of support information for the benefit of newcomers 
right up to an international corporation with huge data storages to be shared among their employees.

Notes operates completely in a Client-Server mode, where the data is stored, managed and protected centrally, but available for access by 
all authorized people, regardless of their location. Tools such as Replication make it a simple task to extract a copy of essential data, store it 
on a local machine (either a laptop for mobile access, a departmental server for speed of retrieval in one group, or a desktop for local 
access by one person). 

Notes manages the state of the data in all locations so that amendments can be Replicated/Updated in logical consistent ways, and then 
Propogated to others as they need it, or made available for full-text and indexed searching.

Notes also handles the authorization of people for access to the data to varying and quite complex levels of permission. Depending on 
business arrangements, some people may have permission to view and update say customer names and addresses, and view but not 
update personnel information.

Antony demonstrated by connecting to his home machine (set up as a Notes server) and confirming his authorization before accessing 
data.
 
The Lotus Notes Mail CD we received in our Warp 4 boxes represents one of the applications available from a range of thousands. 
Developers and consultants such as Antony design such applications entirely in Notes using forms designers, workflow tools and more, 
applying business rules to the capture, storage and shared dissemination of data within and outside of an organization or unit.

By way of illustration, we discussed possible use of our copies of Notes Mail within the SIG to provide a central repository for all mailing list 
messages in a search Notes database, on a server accessible to all users.

Each SIG member using Notes could then define their own selection criteria, and download only those messages they were personally 
interested in. Their replies would be sent back to the Notes Mail server for storage and access by everyone else. The SIG Mail database 
server would also allow us to search the archives for older messages dealing with topics of interest.

The illustration generated extensive discussion and many interesting comments, although it would require some effort to set up the server 
correctly to meet all the potential requirements put forward on the night. 

We closed the meeting with thanks to Antony, but discussion continued - a sure sign that his Notes presentation was well received!


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------


PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... OS/2: TWICE an operating system, NOT HALF!

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 19:32:26 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SCOPY program for OS/2

>>Forgot to say you can get scopy.exe to read open OS/2 files from

also at

http://www.os2site dot com/sw/util/commandline/scopy.zip

for those without os2com access.

Cheers
Ian B Manners

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:04:17 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] FAT32

You have FAT32 on the same machine ?? (If you're accessing
a windoze 9x machine across the network with FAT32, the
Network Operating system takes care of all conversions).

Get the IFS driver from Henk :-

       => For the latest changes in FAT32.IFS please look <=
       => at the bottom of this file.                     <=



                        === DISCLAIMER ===


I allow you to use all software in this package freely under the
condition
that I am in no way responsible for any damage or loss you may suffer.

        >> You should be aware of the fact that FAT32.IFS might <<
        >> damage the data stored on your hard disks.           <<

If you cannot agree to these conditions, you should NOT use FAT32.IFS !



I CANNOT guarantee that FAT32.IFS will work for you. However I've done
my best to test the program and I can only say that It works for me.


Henk Kelder
hkelderatcapgemini.nl 
Certified daddy (by my kids)

My homepage for the latest version: 

  http://www.os2ss dot com/information/kelder/index.html


Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I know that OS2 recognises FAT partitions but how do I get it to recognise FAT32?
> 
> Graham Norton

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:06:27 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] FAT32

Isn't there a JAVA version to run under OS/2 ?

I think I saw someone had ported the unix version to OS/2
as well - check the Voice database or Hobbes perhaps ?

Ed. 

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> has any one managed to set up the windows/palm pilot utility software under Odin?
> It is claimed on various sites that this is a 4 star success!  (out of 5)

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:13:09 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SCOPY program for OS/2

H'mm sorry about that ! Mark.

Have you been able to find the utility anywhere else on the web ?

I think it might even have been IBM EWS (Employee Written Software)

Nope, nothing at  http://rexx.hursley.ibm dot com/

I'm sure I have a copy of it somewhere on a diskette, let me serch and 
if I find it, I'll send you it "off list".

Ed.

mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au wrote:
> 
> Ed
>     You forgot to mention that downloads from this page require membership
> with OS2 dot com.
> 
> Mark
> 
> In <3AEE9F85.89B62104atbigpond dot net dot au>, on 05/01/01
>    at 09:35 PM, Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au> said:
> 
> >Forgot to say you can get scopy.exe to read open OS/2 files from
> 
> >http://www.os2 dot com/download/util.html
> 
> >(Note it's not the scopy/2 program which is an archiver) but actually
> >scopy.zip and it's description states it copies open files. I used to use
> >it back in OS/2 2.x days to copy OS2.INI.
> 
> >Ed.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au
> Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 06:58 PM
> -----------
> "Lord, Grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,
> the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies
> of the people I had to kill because they pissed me off." -----------
> Mark Farnham
> Mackay, Queensland, Australia.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:15:05 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] SCOPY program for OS/2

Bingo - found it ! sending you it via email.

Ed.


mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au wrote:
> 
> Ed
>     You forgot to mention that downloads from this page require membership
> with OS2 dot com.

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