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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:52:31 +0200
From: Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhautathccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Netscape dropping support for 4.61

Daryl Pilkington schreef:

>
> How do you make 4.61 "think" it is 4.74?
> Can you make the IBM Browser think it is 4.74?

I think it would be just one question the other way around:

- How do we make the ennemy to believe it's 4.74 he sees.



--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 01:56:57 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Netscape dropping support for 4.61

Hi Paul,
Thanks, very resourceful fiddle of the *.exe on your part, not
successful though, *sigh*.
As far as I know, BankSA use exactly the same infrastructure as St
George.
Your tests add weight to my observations.

My *main* bank is St George, I've only just started to ramp-up using
their services, strategically, it has been an excellent choice so far:-
my main client Banks with BankSA & international Telegraphic Transfers
are simple through St George. Whilst nothing is impossible, its going to
be a right PITA to reshuffle things.

Good-old Adelaide Bank, the old Hindmarsh Building Society has been the
best performer out of all the Banks.
Doing Telegraphic Transfers though is a pain, Adelaide Bank, not being
an international bank, do it through American Express, its very
convoluted.

Paul Smedley wrote:
> 
> G'day Daryl,
> Well the Commonwealth bank still allows the use of NS 4.61.  And I did get the
> Commonwealth netbank to load with Mozilla 0.8.1.  Some things looked borked but it
> did work!
> 
> Just tried BankSA with NS 4.61 and got the same thing that you get with St George
> (hardly surprising given the same ownership).
> 
> I just tried editing netscape.exe with a hex editor and changed all the 4.61 strings in the
> .exe to 4.74, which then got through the browser check, but crashed netscape when
> Java started.  I might mess around with this a bit and try not changing all the matches (I
> think there were 5 4.61 strings in the .exe).
> 
> I'll keep you posted on my progress as my wife uses BankSA and I'll cop heaps if I
> don't get it working!!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 20:35:45 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> >G'day from the Coat-Hanger City,
> >St George Bank is claiming Netscape are dropping support of 4.61 from 24
> >April 2001.
> >St George, in a knee-jerk reaction have coded their Internet Banking not
> >to accept anything lower than 4.74.
> >
> >I'm wondering if the other Banks will follow. Currently, Adelaide & ANZ
> >Bank still work with 4.61.
> >Could people using other Banks check Internet Banking is still working &
> >report on their bank's functional statua on these ListServs if they stop
> >working in the future.
> >
> >No Bank in Australia currently supports Internet Banking on 6.00
> >Has anyone got Mozilla or the IBM Browser to work with Internet Banking
> >in Australia?
> >
> >How do you make 4.61 "think" it is 4.74?
> >Can you make the IBM Browser think it is 4.74?
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >
> >Daryl  Pilkington
> >
> >//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> >O<O  AUSTRALIA
> >\_/
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> >
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> >               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

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From: "VanEps, Brad" <BVanEpsatracq dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ISP's
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:47:42 +1000

Hi All,


> Does this indeed seem too good to be true? There was a comment in the
> fine print about modems not always being available at peak periods.
> Could this be the little lurk hiding in the comms room.
> 
> If I ditch Camtech/Ozemail/UUNet, does anyone have any suggestions for
> an alternative OS/2-friendly ISP in Adelaide?
> 
> When I first joined Camtech two or three years ago, the service was
> excellent and my V90 Diamond SupraExpress Internal modem was 
> sucking in
> downloads at 5.4 to 5.5 K/sec. 

The OptusatHome cable internet service works very nicely with OS/2.  A little
more expensive, but 3Mbit/sec is nothing to sneeze at!


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
 Brad van Eps, B.Eng     Systems/Database Administrator
 Information Services
 Royal Automobile Club of Queensland
 2649 Logan Rd, Eight Mile Plains, QLD 4113
 Ph: (07)3361 2876       Fax: (07)3841 1048
 E-mail: bvanepsatracq dot com dot au

 OS/2 WARPed for REAL Power!
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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may be privileged and confidential.  If you are not the intended recipient,
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from electronic viruses, faults or defects.

4================================================

From: "VanEps, Brad" <BVanEpsatracq dot com dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Zampa - anyone use it?
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:13:05 +1000

Hi All,

> I am on a home setup of two networked boxes. Box1 is the main one,
> runs OS/2 and is linked to the internet via a 56k modem. Box 2  is a
> win box and is networked to box 1. I have no web pages etc. Do I need
> a firewall 

Oh yes, a firewall is a *very* good idea.  Even when I was on a dial-up
connection with a dynamic IP address, I used to get a crack attempt roughly
every hour I was logged on, which could be for some time if I was playing
StarCraft ;-)  OS/2 is more impervious than Windoze to standard crackers as
it doesn't share every service it can possibly find, but it's still a good
idea to hide your OS/2 machine from crack attempts.  If you will be using
NAT on the OS/2 machine for internet sharing it's even more important to do
this to protect your Windoze PC.


( I read that all sorts of things can be wrecked in the win
> box
> without one) and if so why not Zampa - the gui name for the firewall
> included in TCPIP 4.1 + ? Could some kindly soul tell me how to set
> the rules , viz. what do I let into the OS/2 box, what do I filter out
> of
> the windows box. Is there a simple how-to anywhere?

I use SafeFire Firewall for OS/2
http://www.lgs.kiev.ua/products/sffw.shtml

Simple, powerful (rule-based filters and NAT-enabled), free and works well.
Also, it works fine with TCP/IP 4.0 (but patched to the 'W' revision).


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
 Brad van Eps, B.Eng     Systems/Database Administrator
 Information Services
 Royal Automobile Club of Queensland
 2649 Logan Rd, Eight Mile Plains, QLD 4113
 Ph: (07)3361 2876       Fax: (07)3841 1048
 E-mail: bvanepsatracq dot com dot au

 OS/2 WARPed for REAL Power!
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Please Note:

This communication has been sent on behalf of The Royal Automobile Club of
Queensland Limited (RACQ).  The information contained in this communication
may be privileged and confidential.  If you are not the intended recipient,
any use, disclosure or copying of this communication is expressly
prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please delete
it immediately.  RACQ and its associated entities do not warrant or
represent that this communication (including any enclosed files) is free
from electronic viruses, faults or defects.

5================================================

From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:12:24 +0900 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ct: Re: [eCS] Netscape dropping support for 4.61

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 20:35:45 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>G'day from the Coat-Hanger City,
>St George Bank is claiming Netscape are dropping support of 4.61 from 24
>April 2001.
>St George, in a knee-jerk reaction have coded their Internet Banking not
>to accept anything lower than 4.74.

G'day from the Upside Down River city.

What kind of cheek does StG have to even know there is a 4.61, and that NS is supposed to be dropping supoprt for it?

AFAIK 4.61 is the IBM-supported release of NS, so in true pedantic style, NS has *NEVER* supported it, so they can't drop support now.

Why not tell StG to try a reality check? <GD&R>


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------


PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... DO NOT ADJUST YOUR MIND - the fault is with reality

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From: "Armitage, Neil P" <neil.armitageateds dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ISP's
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:01:05 +0930

Hi all,

I'm also currently subscribed to Camtech in Adelaide and now
have been told I have to move.  The information provided by
everyone on the list has been very helpful, but I only need minimal
internet access from home for email and a bit of downloading.
Since my home 'phone service is through Primus, I thought I'd
look at their web services.  Does anyone use OS/2 with iPrimus,
or have any comments about their service?

Thanks.
Neil

7================================================

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:08:07 +1000
From: Michael Peters <mpetersatnetspace dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Netscape dropping support for 4.61

Daryl,

     GoTo : http://asavage.fdns dot net/OS2/Warp4Install/NSVer.html

This site is about making 4.61 show as >4.72

  Mike

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> G'day from the Coat-Hanger City,
> St George Bank is claiming Netscape are dropping support of 4.61 from 24
> April 2001.
> St George, in a knee-jerk reaction have coded their Internet Banking not
> to accept anything lower than 4.74.
>
> I'm wondering if the other Banks will follow. Currently, Adelaide & ANZ
> Bank still work with 4.61.
> Could people using other Banks check Internet Banking is still working &
> report on their bank's functional statua on these ListServs if they stop
> working in the future.
>
> No Bank in Australia currently supports Internet Banking on 6.00
> Has anyone got Mozilla or the IBM Browser to work with Internet Banking
> in Australia?
>
> How do you make 4.61 "think" it is 4.74?
> Can you make the IBM Browser think it is 4.74?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Daryl  Pilkington
>
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           ICQ: 91914134
>           Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
>           Mob: +61-425-251-300
>           Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
>       Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
>                (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:11:10 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ISP's

Hi Neil,
They work fine.
If you are using a v90, (56k), modem no issues, v34, (33k6), a few minor
setup issues.
Its only the Adelaide POPs that have the v34 issue, Sydney is fine, go
figure...

"Armitage, Neil P" wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm also currently subscribed to Camtech in Adelaide and now
> have been told I have to move.  The information provided by
> everyone on the list has been very helpful, but I only need minimal
> internet access from home for email and a bit of downloading.
> Since my home 'phone service is through Primus, I thought I'd
> look at their web services.  Does anyone use OS/2 with iPrimus,
> or have any comments about their service?
> 
> Thanks.
> Neil
> 
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au
               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

9================================================

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:48:34 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ISP's

"VanEps, Brad" wrote:

> The OptusatHome cable internet service works very nicely with OS/2.  A little
> more expensive, but 3Mbit/sec is nothing to sneeze at!

Sounds nice - but no cable service

Cheers,
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:02:08 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <lbuntingatcamtech dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Netscape dropping support for 4.61

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> St George Bank is claiming Netscape are dropping support of 4.61 from 24
> April 2001.

Powerstate Credit Union still OK in Adelaide :))
--
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.cobweb dot com dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:26:06 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ISP's

Don't use iPrimus but you might want to consider PickNowl
("professionals in computer knowledge") I used them when 
I lived in Adelaide with no problems, good reliability and
respectable speed.

If you only use the internet a small amount, they have a
$1 per hour (no connection/setup fee) offering which you
might like to look at. Checkout their web page at

http://www.picknowl dot com dot au

Ed.

"Armitage, Neil P" wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm also currently subscribed to Camtech in Adelaide and now
> have been told I have to move.  The information provided by
> everyone on the list has been very helpful, but I only need minimal
> internet access from home for email and a bit of downloading.
> Since my home 'phone service is through Primus, I thought I'd
> look at their web services.  Does anyone use OS/2 with iPrimus,
> or have any comments about their service?
> 
> Thanks.
> Neil
 
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:43:04 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ISP's

Thought I'd better correct a typo "toute suite" ! This should
have read I don't use iPrimus, it was not meant to be a comment
not to use their service.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> Don't use iPrimus but you might want to consider PickNowl

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