Received: from darkside. (darkside. [210.8.201.180]) by 
 mail. (Weasel v1.20) for <deadmail>; 
 22 Sep 2001 01:00:00 
From: "Digest" <ianatos2site dot com>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <deadmail>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: CASMailer 1.0 for OS/2 Warp PPC 1.05
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 167
Message-ID: <200109220100.000029G6atmail.>
Reply-To: <deadmail>

Date:- 22 September 2001

Please reply to ianatos2site dot com to post to the list.
The posting problem will be looked at, and corrected this weekend,
this only affects people on the digest list.

1================================================

From: "List Admin" <ianatos2site dot com>
Date: Thu, 20 August 2001 00:00:00 +1000 (EDT)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting 

Date:   Tuesday, September 25, 2001 
Time:  6:30PM - 9:30PM
Place:  Melbourne PC Group
           Victoria, Australia.

The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG 
Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month.

2==============================================

From: "Armitage, Neil" <neil.armitageateds dot com>
Subject: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000

Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro?  I want to
upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support.

Thanks.
Neil


Neil Armitage
Black Forest, South Australia

narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au

3==============================================

From: "Bob Ogden" <bobatcontact.omen dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:55:24 +0900
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade

In <1D1A08E56535D111BD0400805F59041A029AD1A5atAUADM100>, on 21/Sep/2001 
   at 10:46 AM,(+1000 GMT)
"Armitage, Neil" <neil.armitageateds dot com> said:



>Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro?  I want to
>upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support.

>Thanks.
>Neil

Try SBT. Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>


>Neil Armitage
>Black Forest, South Australia

>narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au

-- 
/-- Bob Ogden  bobatcontact.omen dot com dot au --------------/
/  ---... -....- -.--.-                   Finger  for PGP key -----/

Only 31534153440 seconds till the _next_ millennium! 

4==============================================

From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:04:00 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade

Hi Neil,

Orion Solutions:

http://www.orion-solutions dot com dot au

Another option would be to install PMPDF to "print" Portable Document
Format, (PDF),  files.
Then view them using GSView & print to the FxPrint printer.

It gives the added benefit of being able to send people PDFs which they
can read  perfectly.

Why do you need PCL5 printer support?

On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote:

>
>
>Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro?  I want to
>upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support.
>
>Thanks.
>Neil
>
>
>Neil Armitage
>Black Forest, South Australia
>
>narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au
>


Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)

5==============================================

From: "Armitage, Neil" <neil.armitageateds dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:27:30 +1000

Why do I need PCL5 support, Daryl?

I look after an OS/2 system that receives printer output from an
IBM-compatible mainframe via lpd, then requeues it to PM Fax Pro.  The
mainframe thinks the OS/2 system is a printer.
The mainframe has the option of sending PCL or Postscript to it's printers
and I would like to turn this on.  Currently we only send simple
line-printer data via fax but would like to send some of the fancier
graphics stuff too.  I have an older version of PM Fax Pro, but it only
supports PCL3.  I need at least PCL4 support (or Postscript).

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Pilkington [mailto:u3232athome.dialix dot com]
Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:34
To: os2genauatos2 dot org dot au
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade


Hi Neil,

Orion Solutions:

http://www.orion-solutions dot com dot au

Another option would be to install PMPDF to "print" Portable Document
Format, (PDF),  files.
Then view them using GSView & print to the FxPrint printer.

It gives the added benefit of being able to send people PDFs which they
can read  perfectly.

Why do you need PCL5 printer support?

On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote:

>
>
>Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro?  I want to
>upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support.
>
>Thanks.
>Neil
>
>
>Neil Armitage
>Black Forest, South Australia
>
>narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au


Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)

6==============================================

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:59:40 
From: Voytek Eymont <voytekatsbt dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade

** Reply to note from "Armitage, Neil" <neil.armitageateds dot com> Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:27:30 +1000


> Why do I need PCL5 support, Daryl? 
>    
> I look after an OS/2 system that receives printer output from an 
> IBM-compatible mainframe via lpd, then requeues it to PM Fax Pro.  The 
> mainframe thinks the OS/2 system is a printer. 
> The mainframe has the option of sending PCL or Postscript to it's printers 
> and I would like to turn this on.  Currently we only send simple 
> line-printer data via fax but would like to send some of the fancier 
> graphics stuff too.  I have an older version of PM Fax Pro, but it only 
> supports PCL3.  I need at least PCL4 support (or Postscript). 
> 
 
Neil ,

you should ... perhaps look also at the PMfax's.. oops, mental blank...
the language... sorry..., can't think of name, it allows sending ASCII
stream to merge with graphics or specify fonts, etc


>  
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote: 
>  
 
> >Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro?  I want to 
> >upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support. 


Neil,

yes, we are


Voytek Eymont
SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/
phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 

7==============================================

From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:33:52 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade

Hi Neil,
Thanks for the background, I can answer your Q better now :)

I do a similar thing for my W2k boxes to fax, since there is no W2k
PMFax client.

I've got FaxWorks Pro LAN 3.00.00.ML
This is PMFax under a different name.
I suspect you have the same version, as mine only supports PCL3.

Postscript is probably the way to go, your mainframe would create quite
nice-looking PostScript documents.

You could setup GhostScript to process the lpd queue which sends it to
PMFax which can log all outgoing faxes.

It's really just about port redirection.
I'm assuming you are already embedding recipient & fax # data in the
mainframe output for full automation from mainframe->fax dialing.

GhostScript is free :)

On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:27:30 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote:

>Why do I need PCL5 support, Daryl?
>
>I look after an OS/2 system that receives printer output from an
>IBM-compatible mainframe via lpd, then requeues it to PM Fax Pro.  The
>mainframe thinks the OS/2 system is a printer.
>The mainframe has the option of sending PCL or Postscript to it's printers
>and I would like to turn this on.  Currently we only send simple
>line-printer data via fax but would like to send some of the fancier
>graphics stuff too.  I have an older version of PM Fax Pro, but it only
>supports PCL3.  I need at least PCL4 support (or Postscript).
>
>Neil
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daryl Pilkington [mailto:u3232athome.dialix dot com]
>Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:34
>To: os2genauatos2 dot org dot au
>Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade
>
>
>Hi Neil,
>
>Orion Solutions:
>
>http://www.orion-solutions dot com dot au
>
>Another option would be to install PMPDF to "print" Portable Document
>Format, (PDF),  files.
>Then view them using GSView & print to the FxPrint printer.
>
>It gives the added benefit of being able to send people PDFs which they
>can read  perfectly.
>
>Why do you need PCL5 printer support?
>
>On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro?  I want to
>>upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>Neil Armitage
>>Black Forest, South Australia
>>
>>narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au
>>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>          ICQ: 91914134
>          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
>          Mob: +61-425-251-300
>          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
>      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)
>
>


Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)

8==============================================

From: "Daryl Pilkington" <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 16:00:06 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade

Hi Neil,

1)
You probably will need a registered version of PMFax as GhostScript
seems to only print to laserjet, even though it should print to os2prn,
(OS/2 print format).

2)
My testing is using GSView, perhaps runing GSOS2.exe directly you can
print to the os2prn interface & hence use the FxPrint.drv in OS/2,
which creates nice output.

If 2) works you will get a very nice network lpd PostScript fax server.
Email me if you need some assistance.

Regards,

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
\_/
<O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
     IBM Certified Systems Expert

        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
          ICQ: 91914134
          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
          Mob: +61-425-251-300
          Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
      Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)

9==============================================

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:12:58 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade

If we're really talking PS to PCL conversion here, wasn't there an OS/2 Advanced
printing option that came with WSeB ACF or something - that does this conversion ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Hi Neil,
>
> 1)
> You probably will need a registered version of PMFax as GhostScript
> seems to only print to laserjet, even though it should print to os2prn,
> (OS/2 print format).
>
> 2)
> My testing is using GSView, perhaps runing GSOS2.exe directly you can
> print to the os2prn interface & hence use the FxPrint.drv in OS/2,
> which creates nice output.
>
> If 2) works you will get a very nice network lpd PostScript fax server.
> Email me if you need some assistance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daryl  Pilkington
>
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           ICQ: 91914134
>           Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
>           Mob: +61-425-251-300
>           Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
>       Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max)

10==============================================

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:26:50 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Australian Personal Computer

I don't know how many of you buy, like I do, the APC magazine every
month.

It used to carry a OS/2 shareware and a monthly "how-to" type article.
Well the
How to's gat dropped to make more room for Windoze and later Linux but
the
shareware and an online article stayed under the workshop part of the
CD, well
This month the October edition of APC no longer carries even this
vestige of
OS/2 coverage and they even failed to list how to read the index page
when using
OS/2 (open in your browser).

The magazine itself has also changed design - changing it's main title
to APC and now
only Subtitling itself Australian Personal Computer, this may be due to
a change
of name coming up. Since half of the magazine is reviews of Digital
cameras,
perhaps APC is about to become the Journal of the Australian
Photographic Club ??

Anyway, It's certainly a magazine to miss from an OS/2 Point Of View.

Cheers/2

Ed.

11==============================================

From: "Ian Manners" <ianatos2site dot com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:56:44 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Australian Personal Computer

Hi Ed

>I don't know how many of you buy, like I do, the APC magazine every
>month.

I was going to write to the list about the latest APC, I find its new direction
rather at#$at#$. 

It is a part of the NineMSN stable, and it now shows.

Even Linux has been moved to the last "magazine" page, and I assume
will also soon vanish.

A bit like Electronics Australia, I've been getting this magazine since I
was a youngn, and this year, they have turned it into a consumer appliances
magazine !  Such a sad end for the old "Radio Hobby's" magazine from
the early 30's (or was it the 40's), now all I have left is Silicon Chip, which
seems to be slowly turning into a computer magazine !

Soon, I'll be forced to buy the British Electronics magazines to get my fix.

Cheers
Ian B Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

If men can run the world, why can't they stop wearing neckties?
How intelligent is it to start the day by tying a little noose around your
neck?
        -- Linda Ellerbee

12==============================================

From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:22:53 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Melbourne OS/2-eCS SIG Meeting Sept 25th & eCS day Sat 29th

OS/2 SIG Meeting Agenda for September 2001

Date: Tuesday Sept 25th
Time: 6:30pm
Location: Large SIG room, Melbourne PC User Group, cnr Wells & Dorcas
Streets South Melbourne

The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG 

Excitement last month; but sobering this month.

News
We live in a different world all of a sudden. And the Windows PC
world has been struck by a savage new virus.

For the forseeable future, we will try to cover at least one aspect
of eCS in each SIG meeting. This month the topic chooses itself.

Protection
We will welcome as a special guest speaker Mark Karpinski of Capital
Security Solutions, the Australian representatives of Norman Data
Security. Norman are the providers of (among other things) Norman
Anti-Virus. A "demo" or "lite" version is included with all eCS
distributions, and Norman's had a new update to deal with Nimda
available on their web site on Wednesday evening.  

Mark will take us through the operation and features of Norman AV
which is available for all platforms including both Warp and eCS.

No doubt he will also tell us about other aspects of data security
for which Norman has an excellent range of products and services.

OS/2 Basics
If we have enough time left after Mark's presentation we will have
another Basics segment on the use of the Button 2 menus, layout of
folders and organising the Desktop.

--------------------

eCS Tune Up and Install day 

Date: Saturday Sept 29th
Time: 9:30am - 5pm
Location: Large SIG room, Melbourne PC User Group, cnr Wells & Dorcas
Streets South Melbourne

We have been trying to have an eCS InstallFest for months but it
looks llike the name won't stick! 

Now that most pre-ordered copies are in the hands of users, we agreed
with Mark Rogers that it would be better to have a day when you could
bring your machine with eCS and Mark could "do a tune up," help you
with other software installs, etc

However, if you have not yet bought or not yet installed eCS, then
Saturday the 29th might be a good day to pick up some tips from those
who have installed, and then "take the plunge"!


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------






PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... Avoid junk mail: Get an unlisted postcode!

13==============================================

From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 23:41:42 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade

On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote:

>
>
>Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro?  I want to
>upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support.
>
>Thanks.
>Neil
>
>

Hi Neil.

Long time no speak 

(OT: we're coming to Adelaide Oct 6th. Any chance of seeing you and
family at our seminar?)

If you go to CDS web site www.cds-inc dot com you can upgrade online and
download the software.



Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------

PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular.
