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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:50:28 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] St George Bank locks users out of Internet banking

Hi Steve, Michael,

Internet Banking is a Nightmare in Australia!

The technology is mature enough, just project managers for the Internet
Banking departments are immature.

I've had 1st-hand experience of it when I was in the US:- & overseas
Americans quite happily check their accounts whilst here in Australia,
I've watched them on my P133mmx Toshiba Laptop running OS/2.

Australia is 2-3 years behind the US, not because we don't have the
technology, just the thinking of the Internet Departments is 2-3 behind
the rest of the world.

Change control, advance notice of "upgrades", extensive beta-testing
programs, standards compliance, all mean better service & less problems.

I use NS4.61 000818

JAVA.EXE full version "JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-20010114
(JIT enabled: javax V3.5-IBMJDK1.1-20010114)"

Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 
> Worry as I will, I use the only bank in NZ that doesn't require win specific software.
> But, they don't work with 4.61 the new one by subscription.
> They do work with the free 4.61 on swchoice (00229or something).
> They do work with 4.61, rev.990915,
> but 4.61 rev.990915 and 4.61 rev.00229 present different pages to me, so they present themselves
> differently to the win server at the bank.
> 
> What rev's of 4.61 have you tried?
> 
> steve
> 
> On Thu, 17 May 2001 21:43:56 +1000, Michael Taylor wrote:
> 
> >It worked with N4.61 on OS/2 yesterday but doesn't now. Typical. I wonder what was different
> >yesterday?
>
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From: "List Admin" <deadmail>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2001 03:33:33 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - OS/2UGSA Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

The OS/2 Users Group of South Australia Meeting

Date:  Tuesday, May 22, 2001 
Time:  7:30PM - 9:30PM 
Place: ARPA, 84 Archer St, North Adelaide
           South Australia.

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From: "List Admin" <deadmail>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 03:33:33 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting 

Date:   Tuesday, May 22, 2001 
Time:  6:30PM - 9:30PM
Place:  Melbourne PC Group
           Victoria, Australia.

The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG 

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:52:52 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] Bargain scanner and SCSI card

For those interested I have found a very good offer at Strathfield's
(Car accessories and HI-FI / computers) of a Canon FB620S SCSI attached
flatbed scanner including an Adaptec AVA-2904E PCI SCSI card and scsi
external cable all for $99.

"For your local store - call 13 11 77"

Cheers

Ed Durrant.

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From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratnetstra dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:59:45 +1000
Subject: [os2genau] Anyone know of a good ISP in Mornington, Victoria ??

Hi All,

Slightly off topic request.

Anyone know of a good ISP in Mornington, Victoria ??


Robert Traynor (BobT)
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:19:49 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] ubject: [Fwd: [os2genau] Bargain scanner and SCSI card]

Another additional point to the text below - the AVA-2904E card uses the
same drivers as the AIC-7850, which is supported "out of the box" by
OS/2 Warp 4.

>>Attatchement Removed<<

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:27:27 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] St George Bank locks users out of Internet banking

I remain very happy with my ANZ internet banking solution. Accessible from
any platform and any browser that I use.

Since I thought ANZ was the "Australia and New Zealand Bank", I'd have
thought their site would be accessible for NZ accounts as well ???

Ed Durrant.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:

> Hi Steve, Michael,
>
> Internet Banking is a Nightmare in Australia!
>
> The technology is mature enough, just project managers for the Internet
> Banking departments are immature.

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From: "Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:56:14 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Bargain scanner and SCSI card

Thanks for the tip Ed.  I called Strathfield at Modbury (Adelaide) and they too have this 
scanner.  Anyone know which OS/2 applications support this scanner?  I presume that 
Sane at least does?

Regards,

Paul.

On Fri, 18 May 2001 15:52:52 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>For those interested I have found a very good offer at Strathfield's
>(Car accessories and HI-FI / computers) of a Canon FB620S SCSI attached
>flatbed scanner including an Adaptec AVA-2904E PCI SCSI card and scsi
>external cable all for $99.
>
>"For your local store - call 13 11 77"
>

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From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:46:44 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] St George Bank locks users out of Internet banking

They may have changed their ways, When I approached the Yes bank they
were the "you gotta be joking bank". There was a 60 meg install required and only on a win box.
I know I can use ANZ in Aust. ok but havn't re-appraised NZ.

I know USA and Germany have very mature internet  banking systems.
Mature, considered management. Wish they would settle down here.
Wait untill more people have PDA's than PC's and want to bank with them.

I honestly can't see why they don't use ssh clients, run on anything and run the application at the 
bank. May not be as flashy but its got to be reliable and secure.

steve 

On Fri, 18 May 2001 16:27:27 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>I remain very happy with my ANZ internet banking solution. Accessible from
>any platform and any browser that I use.
>
>Since I thought ANZ was the "Australia and New Zealand Bank", I'd have
>thought their site would be accessible for NZ accounts as well ???
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

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From: "Paul Smedley" <psmedle1atbigpond dot net dot au>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:53:15 +1100
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [Fwd: [os2genau] Bargain scanner and SCSI card]

On Fri, 18 May 2001 16:19:49 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Another additional point to the text below - the AVA-2904E card uses the
>same drivers as the AIC-7850, which is supported "out of the box" by
>OS/2 Warp 4.
>

Ed,
You sure about the above?  I don't see OS/2 drivers for the AVA-2904 listed at either 
the OS/2 Device Driver Site or the Adaptec site 
(http://www.adaptec dot com/worldwide/support/techspecs.html?prodkey=AVA-2904&cat=
%2fProduct%2fAVA-2904).

Regards,

Paul.

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:48:51 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Bargain scanner and SCSI card

I'm hoping sane/2 does. I've just got it home tonight, so I'll let all
know asap.
I've got sane/2 installed from trying to get my parallel port scanner to
work with it.

I know where Modbury is by the way - I lived and worked in Adelaide for
5 years.

Ed Durrant.

Paul Smedley wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the tip Ed.  I called Strathfield at Modbury (Adelaide) and they too have this
> scanner.  Anyone know which OS/2 applications support this scanner?  I presume that
> Sane at least does?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> On Fri, 18 May 2001 15:52:52 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >For those interested I have found a very good offer at Strathfield's
> >(Car accessories and HI-FI / computers) of a Canon FB620S SCSI attached
> >flatbed scanner including an Adaptec AVA-2904E PCI SCSI card and scsi
> >external cable all for $99.
> >
> >"For your local store - call 13 11 77"
> >
 
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:56:28 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] ubject: [Fwd: [os2genau] Bargain scanner and SCSI card]

Go to the DDPack online IBM public site - DISK and SCSI adapters,
Adaptec, AIC-7850/7855 option. Note we've changed from AVA 
which defines the card to AIC which defines the chipset.

Ed.

Paul Smedley wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 18 May 2001 16:19:49 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >Another additional point to the text below - the AVA-2904E card uses the
> >same drivers as the AIC-7850, which is supported "out of the box" by
> >OS/2 Warp 4.
> >
> 
> Ed,
> You sure about the above?  I don't see OS/2 drivers for the AVA-2904 listed at either
> the OS/2 Device Driver Site or the Adaptec site
> (http://www.adaptec dot com/worldwide/support/techspecs.html?prodkey=AVA-2904&cat=
> %2fProduct%2fAVA-2904).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul.
 
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From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 21:50:52 +0900 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] St George Bank locks users out of Internet banking

On Fri, 18 May 2001 16:27:27 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>I remain very happy with my ANZ internet banking solution. Accessible from
>any platform and any browser that I use.
>
>Since I thought ANZ was the "Australia and New Zealand Bank", I'd have
>thought their site would be accessible for NZ accounts as well ???
>


Sadly, Ed our banks have to live within borders, and money doesn't flow across the Tasman very easily (despite free trade agreements).  

I have the same trouble - I bank here with a credit union which is linked to NAB, and I have an account at the BNZ in New Zealand. The NAB 
fully owns the BNZ BUT I still have to do TTs and so forth as if they didn't know each other.



Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
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