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Date:- 29 March 2001

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:03:57 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] NS46DRAG.DLL loaded early

Hi Craig

>A strange thing I noticed today was that NS46DRAG.DLL could not be renamed
>on my PC, even after I had just rebooted and netscape had not been started.

I just delete mine from the prompt, and before using NS for the first
time after a reboot, I tend to stick to copying the file to a different name,
then delete the original, saves the WPS, and other programs doing
nasty things like renameing the associations, so its still there just
accessing the new file name !

>OS/2 claimed that the DLL was in use by the system.  Theseus showed it as a
>loaded file?!  I could not see an obvious WPS class or something that would
>cause the DLL to be loaded independently of netscape.  I had to reboot to
>ALT-F1 commandline to rename it.  My other PCs were easy, I just shutdown
>netscape (or perhaps didn't start netscape after a boot) and I just went
>and renamed the DLL.   ?????

No idea.

>What was NS46DRAG.DLL doing loaded so early on?

Maybe Java ? Some other utility ?

>Well it's renamed now so I'll see if that helps my system be more stable.

Should be, maybe, maybe not :-)

Cheers
Ian

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Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAM, Thread, what ever problem.
From: "Craig Brookes" <brookesatau1.ibm dot com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:38:29 +1000

> > but for some strange reason Sysbar/2 was showing only
> > about 9000kb free RAM.
>
> Not that strange at all. Sysbar and most other tools (memsize etc...)
rely on the
> presence of a swapper.dat to calculate the free available memory. To put
it blunt,
> tools like that aren't quite reliable.

> > Once Sysbar/2 got down to 0kb free the OS trapped with some kind of
> > problem from LazyWrite complaining about no free memory.
>
> Sysbar/2 trapped the os coz no swapper.dat. Known "feature" <G>

It is a pity that Sysbar/2 does that.  Other than that I like it as a good
little taskbar style of system monitor.

> > This seems pretty strange... not really what I expected to happen.
> >
>
> Well, now you know. :=)

Thanks.

> > and now when I
> > booted back with SWAP it may have looked at C: partition and decided
> > that there is not enough space to create the 128M file and given me
> > a 1M file????
> >
>
> Sure the 1 Mb swapper.dat isn't marked read-only?

It does not have the read-only attribute set on.

> My advise is: as Ram is cheap these days, just put in an additional 64 Mb
and change
> to Memman=NoSwap.

Sounds alright.  I may try that on one of my other personal machines if I
upgrade them with heaps of ram one day.  This problem PC is full with
regards to slots and as it's old there aren't any spare DIMMs or SIMMs of
larger size around here.  I will probably have to run with at least a small
swapper.

I have been meaning to look at SysInfo for a while now, so I may do that
sometime.

Thanks,
Craig

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Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAM, Thread, what ever problem.
From: "Craig Brookes" <brookesatau1.ibm dot com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:48:31 +1000

> I lived and worked in Kalgoorlie until I became a
> Family Law Court refuge.

Yeah, but you're free now right?  It's worth the expense isn't it?  :)

> I wouldnt rely on what any other program apart from Theseus, or
> SysInfo (Which uses Theseus) to be accurate unless you have a
> swap file.

I have been meaning to check out SysInfo for a while.

> 144Mb would be borderline, for continues use, I would still use
> a swap file, I personally dont use one but then my PC's a fully
> loaded IBM Netfinity, all SCSI :-)

I will have another test with NOSWAP, and remove sysbar/2 from startup, to
see if no swapper makes any difference to my PC's ongoing problem.


Craig

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Subject: Re: [os2genau] NS46DRAG.DLL loaded early
From: "Craig Brookes" <brookesatau1.ibm dot com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:54:05 +1000

> I tend to stick to copying the file to a different name,
> then delete the original, saves the WPS, and other programs doing
> nasty things like renameing the associations, so its still there just
> accessing the new file name !

Yeah.  Tricky WPS being too smart.  I use cmd line also, and use Theseus
after boot to make sure the DLL was not loaded.

> >What was NS46DRAG.DLL doing loaded so early on?
> Maybe Java ? Some other utility ?

Wierd.  Java had not been started.  Nothing much had been started at all.
The 'owner' of the DLL was shown as 'system'.

> >Well it's renamed now so I'll see if that helps my system be more
stable.
>
> Should be, maybe, maybe not :-)

It may make netscape more stable I suppose, but the DLL being loaded at
bootup is interesting as none of my other PCs do it and they're a similar
version, FP, java, netscape, etc, configuration.


Craig

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:21:08 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: [os2genau] HP JetAdmin software

Greetings,
What is the latest HP JetAdmin software?
I have A.04.01

Where can I obtain the latest version.

The HP website says JetAdmin is now obsolete, but it does not list a
replacement for OS/2.

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Daryl  Pilkington 

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From: e.howardatwriteme dot com
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:14:06 +1000
Subject: [os2genau] Installation

Greetings to all,
Have recently experience the following, which I am sure will be of interest to
all concerned.

Had problems with my computer, which were eventually traced to the power supply.
However in the process of trying to establish the cause of the problems, the HDD
was reformatted. The drive was partitioned and three OS were scheduled to be
installed. Windows Me was installed in C: (fat16)
OS/2 Warp 4 failed to install in D: (hpfs). After innumeral attempts in which
the installation would fall over in mid stream, and after trying all possible
changes to the CMOS ( This is a KT7 board with an Athlon 1Gb.), pulling of
hairs, and getting frustrated to the hilt, I removed WinMe, by formatting C:.
Problem solved, OS/2 Warp4 went in as if trough a tube. Fixpac15 was installed
with out any problems and my computer was its old self again. It is my suspicion
that Windows ME has deliberatively placed something in its program to prevent
OS/2 from being installed. Linux SuSE 7.1 was further installed in HHD 2, and
WinMe was subsequently installed in C:. Anyway, the message is: If you are going
to reinstall OS/2, plase make sure you remove WinMe before you even start.
Regards to all
Edward
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From: "Gavin Miller" <paxtonatiaa dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:16:42 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Installation

I think people install OS/2 on C: over Windows only when they have to, therefore I can't see how any file of 
any other operating system on a completely different partition could interfere with the installation of any other 
OS; unless it's 'designed to'.  Seems Microsoft is still up to it's old tricks.

Gavin

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:10:56 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Installation

as a non computer  nerd... there are so many of you out there... a suggestion....


one needs to keep the limit of  *all* the partitions to <2G and in general when I install 
multiple OS I use Boot Manager, then disable it having made the windowspartition 
installable... then install the MS *first* then reactivate Boot Manager and  proceed 
on my merry way  installing OS2 etc!!  This is the most painless way that I have 
developed after years of trial and error!



On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:16:42 +1000 (EST), Gavin Miller wrote:

>I think people install OS/2 on C: over Windows only when they have to, therefore I 
can't see how any file of 
>any other operating system on a completely different partition could interfere with 
the installation of any other 
>OS; unless it's 'designed to'.  Seems Microsoft is still up to it's old tricks.
>
>Gavin
>
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when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!"

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:23:42 -0500
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] OS/2 in Perth

Hi Craig - from a fellow IBMer (I'm with GSA in Sydney, used to work for
IBMA in Adelaide) - what's the level of interest in OS/2 in Perth. I
believe
the UG folded a couple of years ago when some of the members left for
Sydney
(IBM transfers again).

 I'm trying to get links to regional OS/2 web-sites to link off
OS2.ORG.AU so
if there's still activity (and possibly a website), it'd be good to know
!

Regards,

Ed Durrant

(Edward Durrant/Australia/IBM  or  edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au)

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From: "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynoratoptushome dot com dot au>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:39:51 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 in Perth

Hi Ed.

You are also in a time warp mate.  :)

Your email is dated:-
Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:23:42 -0500

Is this what happens when you use IBM Hardware perhaps.?  :) :)

Regards BobT.



On Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:23:42 -0500, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hi Craig - from a fellow IBMer (I'm with GSA in Sydney, used to work for
>IBMA in Adelaide) - what's the level of interest in OS/2 in Perth. I
>believe
>the UG folded a couple of years ago when some of the members left for
>Sydney
>(IBM transfers again).
>
> I'm trying to get links to regional OS/2 web-sites to link off
>OS2.ORG.AU so
>if there's still activity (and possibly a website), it'd be good to know
>!
>
>Regards,
>
>Ed Durrant
>
>(Edward Durrant/Australia/IBM  or  edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au)
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:42:55 -0500
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 in Perth

No it's what happens when you forget to reset date and clock
after wiping and re-programming CMOS ! I've just changed processor.



"Robert Traynor (BobT)" wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed.
> 
> You are also in a time warp mate.  :)
> 
> Your email is dated:-
> Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:23:42 -0500
> 
> Is this what happens when you use IBM Hardware perhaps.?  :) :)

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