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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 00:03:27 +1000
From: David Halprin <davidlazatnet2000 dot com dot au>
Subject: [os2genau] S3 Trio Display Adapter Drivers

Hi Guys
Does anyone in the readership know the URL for S3 Trio Display Adapter
Drivers (for any platform)  I run Win-98 and OS/2 and would like an
update.
http:\\www.mrdriver dot com has not updated its link since S3 was merged
with some new parent company.
Also I tried http://www.driver dot com but that is a `different kettle of
fish'.  It seems to be a disparate collection of submitted drivers
without guaranteed authenticity.
Ian at the meeting last night remembered Diamond may have been one of
the parties in the merger but thinks that there is yet another now.
I tried Google and other search engines to no avail.
Many thanks for reading this
David Halprin

2================================================

From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisgatwarpspeed dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 00:30:50 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [os2genau] UML Anyone?

Is anyone using UML for their web design?

If anyone is interested, I've managed to get TogetherJ 4.1 and 4.2 working
under OS/2 using Java 1.3. I can supply the .CMD file and .ICO file to all
interested.

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9307-0611  PO Box 212   FidoNet:     3:632/344
FAX:    +61-3-9307-0633  Brunswick    Internet:    chrisgatwarpspeed dot com dot au
BBS:    +61-3-9307-0644  VIC 3056     CompuServe:  100250,1645
300-28,800  N,8,1 ANSI   Australia    Web Page:
                                      http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 01:42:43 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] S3 Trio Display Adapter Drivers

Hi David

The OS/2 drivers from S3 havent been updated for many years,
unless they are for the S3 chipset used in various IBM PC's and
servers.

Have a look at

http://www.os2site dot com/sw/drivers/video/

there are about 26 S3 drivers there, apart from that, the
SDD drivers work fine, though if you want the max
resolution, you will need to purchase the drivers.

I'm using the s3.zip drivers from 1996, in
1600x1200 and 65536 colours and at 85Hz with no
problems at all on my Netfinity, I'm also using the
SDD drivers on other servers with S3 chipsets
with no problems as well.

The IBM OEMed one is sddse704.exe in the same
directory (SDD Special Edition v7.04). You can get
the latest one (7.05) if you have SWC.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 01:43:58 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] UML Anyone?

Hi Chris

>Is anyone using UML for their web design?

ok, whats UML ?

>If anyone is interested, I've managed to get TogetherJ 4.1 and 4.2 working
>under OS/2 using Java 1.3. I can supply the .CMD file and .ICO file to all
>interested.

Where do I get TogetherJ from, then I'll have a look at it :-)


Cheers
Ian B Manners

5================================================

Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 04:21:39 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap size

Hi Graham,

FUNCTION:          PARTITION:  DRIVE LETTER:
Operating system   Primary     C:
Applications

Maintenance        Logical     D:
Swapper
Spooler

Data               Logical     E:

More data          Logical     F: etc

CD-ROM             -           S:

*******************************************************************
RULE 1:
Never put the swapper or spooler on your data or OS drive.
*******************************************************************

Applications have the potential to create huge print jobs or consume all
available memory.
If either of these conditions occur, they have the potential to
completely fill the partition they are on.

A full partition has the potential to completely destroy all the data on
it:-
Maybe not directly, but could cause the computer to trap, causing CHKDSK
to run at restart, destroying files.

I have seen the above happen, usually by people who have been told &
think they know better :)
The above rule works on all operating systems.

As Ian mentioned, having the swapper between the OS partition & your
data partition means the HDD heads are centrally located.

*******************************************************************
RULE 2:
Assign the CD-ROM a high driver letter.
*******************************************************************

In config.sys add:
reservedriveletter=r

Additional partitions/HDD won't bugger up the CD-ROM drive letter
assignment.

Ian Manners wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham
> 
> >Given that most of us have only 1 hard drive...
> >my usual practice
> >130 Meg RAM
> >12G hD
> >so
> 
> >Operating system       Primary partition:      drive c
> >Maintenance            Logical partition               drive d
> >applications and data  Logical partition               drive e
> >Swap file              Logical partition               drive f  (swapper.dat file 120meg)
> 
> I would put the swap file on a partition between c & e, though
> on modern HD's, I think I'd leave it were it is, modern seek times
> are very impressive.
> 
> >at work         I am running  concurrently...
> 
> >Voice Type Dication
> >Speech Advantage Medical for OS2
> 
> Now this I'm interested in, is it still available ?
> I dont think I've met one Neurologist that doesnt use either
> speech software, or an Apple Newton with everthing plugged
> into it, Neurologist's seem to always be able to do the things
> with technology that were ment to be done.
> 
> >comments on set up and swap file?  Should the swap file be on my E Drive?
> 
> Swap file would be better on E, even better between your system disk,
> and your apps disk. ie, D drive, that way if you are using the swapper
> file, the HD heads are centrally positioned between your C and E
> drives.
> 
> Cheers
> Ian B Manners
> 
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:29:07 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap size

Hi Ian

I believe that I would be one of the few remaining uses of this sophisticated and 
excellent combination of voice related software in the world, let alone Australia! I 
am sure that you will realize that voice recognition began with a tumultuous 
welcome but has almost died a slow and unnoticed death at least in terms of 
spontaneous dictation. I have attempted to introduce this technology to several of 
my medical colleagues who have persisted for variable lengths of time but all have 
eventually stopped. 

There is a tremendous misconception amongst computer uses about several 
issues 

Firstly they assume that "continuous speech" is synonomous with "conversational 
speech" and this is not correct. 

Secondly they assume that the more powerful the processor and the more random 
accessed memory they have, then the faster and more accurate will be the voice 
recognition. Sadly this is not correct and the most important factor in accuracy is 
indeed clarity of speech, memory and processor speed being important but less 
so. Being a particularly obsessive and compulsive person, a definite advantage to 
a neurologist, I have persisted and my present setup is certainly excellent and 
performs well for me with a dictation rate of about 70 - 80  words per minute with an 
accuracy rate of almost 90 - 95%. 

Moreover I have modified the system and now email most of my letters again by 
using voice navigation and this is useful with about 30% of my letters and reports, 
the rest are usually sent by facsimile. Email users are increasing in the medical 
fraternity.

Occasionally I communicate with the developer of the software Speech Medical 
Advantage but sadly he dropped out of development when IBM apparently 
stopped development of voice recognition for os2 and have continued 
development for both windows and Linux. I still use the original VoiceType dictation 
within OS2 but it has developed significantly with more than five years of use.  

I probably would dictate on average 2000 letters and requests and reports each 
year. On Wed, 23 May 2001 21:47:43 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Graham
>
>>Given that most of us have only 1 hard drive...
>>my usual practice
>>130 Meg RAM
>>12G hD
>>so
>
>>Operating system  	Primary partition: 	drive c   
>>Maintenance 		Logical partition		drive d
>>applications and data	Logical partition		drive e
>>Swap file		Logical partition		drive f  (swapper.dat file 120meg)
>
>I would put the swap file on a partition between c & e, though
>on modern HD's, I think I'd leave it were it is, modern seek times
>are very impressive.
>
>>at work 	 I am running  concurrently...
>
>>Voice Type Dication
>>Speech Advantage Medical for OS2
>
>Now this I'm interested in, is it still available ?
>I dont think I've met one Neurologist that doesnt use either
>speech software, or an Apple Newton with everthing plugged
>into it, Neurologist's seem to always be able to do the things
>with technology that were ment to be done.
>
>>comments on set up and swap file?  Should the swap file be on my E Drive?
>
>Swap file would be better on E, even better between your system disk,
>and your apps disk. ie, D drive, that way if you are using the swapper
>file, the HD heads are centrally positioned between your C and E
>drives.
>
>Cheers
>Ian B Manners

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From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" <gnatsmart-road dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:28:12 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap size

How does one place the spooler on  a non OS drive as it defaults to  C:\SPOOL  
surely??

why have the applications on the C Drive?

On Thu, 24 May 2001 04:21:39 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Hi Graham,
>
>FUNCTION:          PARTITION:  DRIVE LETTER:
>Operating system   Primary     C:
>Applications
>
>Maintenance        Logical     D:
>Swapper
>Spooler
>
>Data               Logical     E:
>
>More data          Logical     F: etc
>
>CD-ROM             -           S:
>
>*******************************************************************
>RULE 1:
>Never put the swapper or spooler on your data or OS drive.
>*******************************************************************
>
>Applications have the potential to create huge print jobs or consume all
>available memory.
>If either of these conditions occur, they have the potential to
>completely fill the partition they are on.
>
>A full partition has the potential to completely destroy all the data on
>it:-
>Maybe not directly, but could cause the computer to trap, causing CHKDSK
>to run at restart, destroying files.
>
>I have seen the above happen, usually by people who have been told &
>think they know better :)
>The above rule works on all operating systems.
>
>As Ian mentioned, having the swapper between the OS partition & your
>data partition means the HDD heads are centrally located.
>
>*******************************************************************
>RULE 2:
>Assign the CD-ROM a high driver letter.
>*******************************************************************
>
>In config.sys add:
>reservedriveletter=r
>
>Additional partitions/HDD won't bugger up the CD-ROM drive letter
>assignment.
>
>Ian Manners wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Graham
>> 
>> >Given that most of us have only 1 hard drive...
>> >my usual practice
>> >130 Meg RAM
>> >12G hD
>> >so
>> 
>> >Operating system       Primary partition:      drive c
>> >Maintenance            Logical partition               drive d
>> >applications and data  Logical partition               drive e
>> >Swap file              Logical partition               drive f  (swapper.dat file 120meg)
>> 
>> I would put the swap file on a partition between c & e, though
>> on modern HD's, I think I'd leave it were it is, modern seek times
>> are very impressive.
>> 
>> >at work         I am running  concurrently...
>> 
>> >Voice Type Dication
>> >Speech Advantage Medical for OS2
>> 
>> Now this I'm interested in, is it still available ?
>> I dont think I've met one Neurologist that doesnt use either
>> speech software, or an Apple Newton with everthing plugged
>> into it, Neurologist's seem to always be able to do the things
>> with technology that were ment to be done.
>> 
>> >comments on set up and swap file?  Should the swap file be on my E Drive?
>> 
>> Swap file would be better on E, even better between your system disk,
>> and your apps disk. ie, D drive, that way if you are using the swapper
>> file, the HD heads are centrally positioned between your C and E
>> drives.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Ian B Manners
>> 
>-- 
>Regards, 
>
>Daryl  Pilkington 
>
>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
>O<O  AUSTRALIA
>\_/
><O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>     IBM Certified Systems Expert
>
>        email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>          ICQ: 91914134
>          Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
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>               (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

Graham Norton
President
OS2 Users Group SA

8================================================

Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:53:23 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap size

Hi Graham,
Uh, you caught me out on these questions, forgot to answer them, was
hoping you wouldn't think of these & require answers :)

Go to the spooler object in the WPS
Properties
1st pane selects where the print spooler directory sits.

"...
It is recommended that when you set up your hard disk, you create a
minimum of 3 partitions.  One will be for the operating system(s), one
for your applications and static data files, and another for dynamic
data files and temporary files
...."

See Reference 1.

Most OS/2 applications either make changes to config.sys or os2.ini, so
once they are installed they are bolted into the operating system.

If the applications are on a different partition to the OS, restoring
only the OS partition without the  application partition would either
render the installation un-operable or at least cause errors at boot
time.

So separating them onto their own partition serves no useful purpose.

I have been using the C: D: E: configuration for years & I've never
found the arrangement lacking, so I suppose its A Good Thing, even
though IBM have a *slightly* different opinion.

Reference 1:
OS/2 Warp 4 Capacity Planning and Performance Tuning Guide
W4-PAPER.LWP
Document Number: WARP4TTT
December 5, 1996

Personal Software Products

Duc J. Vianney, Ph. D., Senior Programmer
OS/2 External Performance, Austin, TX

Tony White, OS/2 Performance Consultant
Personal Systems Solutions Center, Dallas, TX

Trust this helps.

Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote:
> 
> How does one place the spooler on  a non OS drive as it defaults to  C:\SPOOL
> surely??
> 
> why have the applications on the C Drive?
> 
> On Thu, 24 May 2001 04:21:39 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> >Hi Graham,
> >
> >FUNCTION:          PARTITION:  DRIVE LETTER:
> >Operating system   Primary     C:
> >Applications
> >
> >Maintenance        Logical     D:
> >Swapper
> >Spooler
> >
> >Data               Logical     E:
> >
> >More data          Logical     F: etc
> >
> >CD-ROM             -           S:
> >
> >*******************************************************************
> >RULE 1:
> >Never put the swapper or spooler on your data or OS drive.
> >*******************************************************************
> >
> >Applications have the potential to create huge print jobs or consume all
> >available memory.
> >If either of these conditions occur, they have the potential to
> >completely fill the partition they are on.
> >
> >A full partition has the potential to completely destroy all the data on
> >it:-
> >Maybe not directly, but could cause the computer to trap, causing CHKDSK
> >to run at restart, destroying files.
> >
> >I have seen the above happen, usually by people who have been told &
> >think they know better :)
> >The above rule works on all operating systems.
> >
> >As Ian mentioned, having the swapper between the OS partition & your
> >data partition means the HDD heads are centrally located.
> >
> >*******************************************************************
> >RULE 2:
> >Assign the CD-ROM a high driver letter.
> >*******************************************************************
> >
> >In config.sys add:
> >reservedriveletter=r
> >
> >Additional partitions/HDD won't bugger up the CD-ROM drive letter
> >assignment.
> >
SNIP
>
-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:27:34 +1000
From: Daryl Pilkington <u3232athome.dialix dot com>
Subject: [os2genau] Dual-Boot eCS & Win98 or W2k

Hi,
I want to make a dual-boot eCS & Win98 box.
This is slightly OT, but you'll see where the Linux fits in later.

I want to use my regular partition arrangement:
eCS:
c: OS, applications
d: temp, swapper, spooler maintenance
e: data

Win:
c: OS, applications
d: temp, swapper, spooler
e: data

ie I want both operating systems to see the same drives so there is no
confusion for the user.

Currently I do the following.

PARTITION  TYPE     FUNCTION   FILESYSTEM
1          Primary  Win98 c:   FAT32
2          Primary  eCS c:     HPFS
3          Logical  eCS d:     HPFS
4          Logical  eCS e:     HPFS
5          Logical  Win98 d:   FAT32
6          Logical  Win98 e:   FAT32

Booting eCS users see:
2          Primary  c:         HPFS
3          Logical  d:         HPFS
4          Logical  e:         HPFS
5          Logical  f:         FAT32
6          Logical  g:         FAT32

ie c: d: e: HPFS & users just ignore f: g:

Booting Win98 users see:
1          Primary  c:         FAT32
5          Logical  d:         FAT32
6          Logical  e:         FAT32

ie c: d: e: FAT32 which is what the users are used to.

Now I want to use a shared data drive e: but not FAT32 because its crap.

PARTITION  TYPE     FUNCTION   FILESYSTEM
1          Primary  Win95 c:   FAT32
2          Primary  OS/2 c:    HPFS
3          Logical  temp d:    ????
4          Logical  data e:    ????

I'm thinking a Linux ext2fs file system would be A Good Thing.
Is there a read-write installable file-system for Windoze & eCS?
What limitations are there?

-- 
Regards, 

Daryl  Pilkington 

//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
O<O  AUSTRALIA
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     IBM Certified Systems Expert

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10================================================

From: "Steve Edmonds" <steve71atattglobal dot net>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:04:18 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap size

I have my applications on a separate drive, even a network drive. I have reinstalled the os 2x without 
problems. The majority of my applications only need a new program object.

For me there has been a huge advantage in partitioning.

C: Dos, I can always boot to a running dos.
D: Tempory storage, shared between os2/win/linux
e:OS/2 system
F:os2 spooler, swap, data
G:os2 applications, second minimal warg install(maintainence install).

For disc upgrades install a new drive, format, and xcopy f:, g:, boot to maintainence, xcopy real os to 
new partitions, remove old drive.

steve

On Thu, 24 May 2001 16:53:23 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote:

>Most OS/2 applications either make changes to config.sys or os2.ini, so
>once they are installed they are bolted into the operating system.
>
>If the applications are on a different partition to the OS, restoring
>only the OS partition without the  application partition would either
>render the installation un-operable or at least cause errors at boot
>time.
>
>So separating them onto their own partition serves no useful purpose.
_______________
Steve Edmonds
Steve71atattglobal dot net

11================================================

From: "John Angelico" <talldadatkepl dot com dot au>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 19:10:41 +0900 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Swap size

On Thu, 24 May 2001 13:28:12 +1100 (EDT), Dr Graham Norton FRACP
Neurologist wrote:

Hello, Dr Graham

>How does one place the spooler on  a non OS drive as it defaults to  C:\SPOOL  
>surely??

Err, change the default :).

If you go to the Spooler Object you will see the path (as you say,
default is c:\spool). 

Go to the Spool Path page and check the help, which gives a clear
explanation. 

>why have the applications on the C Drive?

Well, the spooler is not really an application - it's more a system
object closely tied to the OS, so I can understand the logic of
system functions defaulting to the boot drive. 

Also, using minimum assumptions, a system with only one drive
requires defaults to C: (or generically <boot drive>) and in this
case making a change is trivial and low-risk so I guess IBM has
never bothered to change the default. 


Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au
--------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 19:46:17 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dual-Boot eCS & Win98 or W2k

Does it have to be Win98, not WinNT4/2000 ?? If you could use
the 32 bit Windoze rather than the 16 bit DOS windoze, you could
use HPFS across the board.

Ed.

Daryl Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I want to make a dual-boot eCS & Win98 box.
> This is slightly OT, but you'll see where the Linux fits in later.
> 
> I want to use my regular partition arrangement:
> eCS:
> c: OS, applications
> d: temp, swapper, spooler maintenance
> e: data
> 
> Win:
> c: OS, applications
> d: temp, swapper, spooler
> e: data
> 
> ie I want both operating systems to see the same drives so there is no
> confusion for the user.
> 
> Currently I do the following.
> 
> PARTITION  TYPE     FUNCTION   FILESYSTEM
> 1          Primary  Win98 c:   FAT32
> 2          Primary  eCS c:     HPFS
> 3          Logical  eCS d:     HPFS
> 4          Logical  eCS e:     HPFS
> 5          Logical  Win98 d:   FAT32
> 6          Logical  Win98 e:   FAT32
> 
> Booting eCS users see:
> 2          Primary  c:         HPFS
> 3          Logical  d:         HPFS
> 4          Logical  e:         HPFS
> 5          Logical  f:         FAT32
> 6          Logical  g:         FAT32
> 
> ie c: d: e: HPFS & users just ignore f: g:
> 
> Booting Win98 users see:
> 1          Primary  c:         FAT32
> 5          Logical  d:         FAT32
> 6          Logical  e:         FAT32
> 
> ie c: d: e: FAT32 which is what the users are used to.
> 
> Now I want to use a shared data drive e: but not FAT32 because its crap.
> 
> PARTITION  TYPE     FUNCTION   FILESYSTEM
> 1          Primary  Win95 c:   FAT32
> 2          Primary  OS/2 c:    HPFS
> 3          Logical  temp d:    ????
> 4          Logical  data e:    ????
> 
> I'm thinking a Linux ext2fs file system would be A Good Thing.
> Is there a read-write installable file-system for Windoze & eCS?
> What limitations are there?
> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Daryl  Pilkington
> 
> //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration
> O<O  AUSTRALIA
> \_/
> <O>  OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2
>      IBM Certified Systems Expert
> 
>         email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au
>           ICQ: 91914134
>           Tel: +61-2-8902-1300
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>           Fax: +61-2-9411-3720
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>                (120 characters max, send no carriage returns)

13================================================

From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:30:03 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dual-Boot eCS & Win98 or W2k

On Thu, 24 May 2001 19:46:17 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Does it have to be Win98, not WinNT4/2000 ?? If you could use
>the 32 bit Windoze rather than the 16 bit DOS windoze, you could
>use HPFS across the board.

I knew that NT4 had HPFS support (or could be convinced to see it),
but, I didn't think that Win2000 could.  How do we do it?

--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:43:12 +1000
From: Ed Durrant <edurrantatbigpond dot net dot au>
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dual-Boot eCS & Win98 or W2k

I believe I read that the same procedure of installing Pinball.dll
and modifying the registry works under the NT4 based W2K as
it does in NT4 but I haven't actually tried it myself, not feeling
the urge to (IMO) waste money on Windows 2000.

Ed. 

David Forrester wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 24 May 2001 19:46:17 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> >Does it have to be Win98, not WinNT4/2000 ?? If you could use
> >the 32 bit Windoze rather than the 16 bit DOS windoze, you could
> >use HPFS across the board.
> 
> I knew that NT4 had HPFS support (or could be convinced to see it),
> but, I didn't think that Win2000 could.  How do we do it?
> 
> --
> David Forrester
> davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
> http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/
 
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From: "David Forrester" <davidforatterrigal dot net dot au>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:47:15 +1100 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dual-Boot eCS & Win98 or W2k

On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:43:12 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>I believe I read that the same procedure of installing Pinball.dll
>and modifying the registry works under the NT4 based W2K as
>it does in NT4 but I haven't actually tried it myself, not feeling
>the urge to (IMO) waste money on Windows 2000.

Unfortunately, I had to (it was that or NT) so that I could do some
work at home and on the bus.  I'll dig out the files and try it.

--
David Forrester
davidforatterrigal dot net dot au
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:05:33 +0830
From: Leigh Bunting <vh_gdnatinternode.on dot net>
Subject: [os2genau] MS - both of them

The residents of Silicon Valley are more confused than usual after a
billboard campaign by the National Multiple Sclerosis Society of America

used this line in an ad slogan.

"MS: It's not a software company."

Exploiting the fame of a certain company to draw attention to an
altogether worthier cause. Requests to comment on the campaign have been

met by a surly silence by Microsoft which doesn't relish the association

of ideas, but is painfully aware that it can't afford to appear
insensitive over such an issue.

Seasoned IT professionals will have no trouble telling the two MS's
apart:

One is a debilitating and surprisingly widespread affliction that
renders the sufferer barely able to perform the simplest task.

The other is a disease.

--
Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here -
http://www.chariot dot net dot au/~pknight/clghs/

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From: "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 23:02:34 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [os2genau] MS - both of them

Hi Leigh

>Seasoned IT professionals will have no trouble telling the two MS's
>apart:

>One is a debilitating and surprisingly widespread affliction that
>renders the sufferer barely able to perform the simplest task.

>The other is a disease.

Nothing like a good laugh, my wife loved this, she has MS, and
also hates MicroSoft, being the Mac fiend in the family.


Cheers
Ian B Manners

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