YATYRD (was: PalmOS no more? :(

John Boffemmyer IV john_boffemmyer_iv at boff-net.dhs.org
Thu Sep 29 09:20:46 CDT 2005


Unfortunately, Packard Bells were still sold in France and sometimes 
exported to other countries as late as 2002. I worked on one with 
Windows 2000 on it and it was a P.O.S. another had Windows Me as 
standard and no support for other OS'es because of the insistence to 
still use proprietary parts. Both clients were pissed because the 
machines got hosed (drive failures, power supply failures, a chip on 
a motherboard went, etc.) while under warranty and it was almost 
impossible to get P.B. on the phone (let alone in English), to RMA 
the systems back to France or Mexico for repairs (plus shipping costs 
via customer). They went out and bought H.P. computers for 1/4 the 
price and about the same equipment in them. Neither of them have 
failed yet. It seems P.B.'s had semi-decent hardware in them the 
older you get. They closer to now, the shittier the equipment and 
more chances you just gave them $2,000.00 US for nothing.

-John Boffemmyer IV

PS: P.B. graphics adapters are far from obscure. They used quite 
common Trident, S3 and Cirrus Logic graphics adapters, often built 
into the motherboards. Reference drivers from various sources 
(including S3, Trident, Cirrus Logic) worked every time (for most of 
the Windblows OS'es - newer versions of 2k, XP, etc, often already 
had driver support for them). The newer P.B.'s that I last saw used 
el cheapo no-name brand nVidia TNT2 vanta's and m64's. Those have 
reference drivers right on the nVidia web site for just about all the 
Winblows OS'es and even Linux.


At 09:26 PM 9/28/2005, you wrote:

>Yet Another Ten Year Rule Discussion)
>On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Scott Stevens wrote:
> > Step careful, now.  By that criterion, it's time for long technical
> > threads about getting obscure graphics adapters to work under Windows
> > 3.1.
>
>It's WAY worse than that.  Under the simplistic 10 year rule, Windoze 95
>is now "ON-TOPIC"!
>
>Under the "coolness" principle, it might NEVER be on-topic.
>
>
>OB_OT: Yesterday, I saw a Packard Bell running 95.  I didn't know that
>they would last this long.
>
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