cctalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 69

[Michael Sokolov]

stevew <stevew at ka6s.com> wrote:

> There is a program called Veritakwin running on Windows that is $50 and is 
> many times faster (4-5X) than Icarus.

If it's for Winblows, why are you even telling me about it?  It is illegal
to bring a Winblows machine across the threshold of my house.

> It is a windowed environment and has a built in wave-form viewer.

I don't want a windowed environment or a waveform viewer, I want to do
all my development from an ASR33!  That's why I love Icarus Verilog, it
is 100% command line.  Although unfortunately it wants "modern UNIX" and
won't build under 4.3BSD (written in C++ for a start), since it's
command line I can have it running on my Linux box and use it from my
main development VAX via rsh.

> Second - the Xilinx tool is running native on Linux but is a bit flakey for 
> 6.0.  

OK, that's good to know.

> What I don't understand is - Why not use the Synthesis tool in Webpack as 
> well? Why even BOTHER with Icarus for this part of the tool chain?

Because I want to, for religious reasons.

> It isn't as good as Synplify - but it DOES work most of the time??????

I don't want a good tool, I want a free one (free as in speech).  Freedom
is more important than quality to me.  I'll gladly settle for a design
that requires a 10 times larger FPGA than necessary and has a 10 times
lower maximum clock speed if it can be done with free-as-in-speech tools.

> Good luck with your project.
>
> Steve Wilson (Professional Verilog slinger)

Thanks,

MS, religious zealot, evangelist of Free Software and command line environment.