Language for the ages

Sridhar Ayengar ploopster at gmail.com
Thu Oct 20 15:46:47 CDT 2005


Paul Koning wrote:
>>>>>>"Sridhar" == Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
>  Sridhar> But I wasn't talking about efficiency, I was talking about
>  Sridhar> cleanliness. Hand-optimized iterative assembler is some of
>  Sridhar> the most efficient code I can think of, but a lot of the
>  Sridhar> time, it tends not to be very clean.
> 
>  Sridhar> The right tool for the right job, and all.
> 
> Right.  But part of the "right job" is the error cases.  On a machine
> with VM and lots of memory and/or a large page file, and
> auto-expanding stacks, recursion is great.
> 
> In an embedded system, or in the kernel, where the stack is small and
> not expandable, recursion is very dangerous.  You will often end up
> with unrealiable systems with hard to track bugs.  It will turn out
> that the stack overflowed and smashed some other bits, and you'll have
> a very hard time finding the bug.  And since the amount of stack space
> used (and available) is hard to predict and will depend on what the
> compiler happens to be doing in that version, up front range checks
> are difficult.
> 
> Conversely, an iterative routine that uses an explicitly allocated
> context array is slightly more wordy, but massively safer.  And with a
> small amount of care you can make it look a whole lot like the
> recursive solution, but with explicit stacking of state in an explicit
> state vector.

I think you're agreeing with me here.

Write clean code when the code needs to be clean.  Write efficient code 
when the code needs to be efficient.

Most people overestimate the former and underestimate the latter, of course.

Peace...  Sridhar


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