Analyzer was Re: KIM-1 repair advice wanted

steve gkicomputers at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 7 14:47:24 CDT 2005



--- "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwight.elvey at amd.com> wrote:

> >From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke at siemens.com>
> ---snip---
> > First thing would be
> >to connect a logic analyzer to see if the CPU is
> still running
> >a programm in ROM or not.
> 
> Hi
>  What is it with logic analyzers. Why not just an
> oscilloscope. In most cases, one can be farther
> along
> with an 'oscope in finding what is wrong by the
> time one can get an analyzer connected and setup.
> I've only had one time that I ever needed an
> analyzer
> and even that time, it didn't work well because
> of the complexity of the problem ( design not
> failure ).
>  I'll admit that I've often thought of making one
> of those address compare circuits to trigger the
> 'scope
> but by the time I'd get serious, I'd found the
> problem.
>  Am I alone here or does everyone else think that an
> analyzer is the ultimate tool?
> Dwight
> 
> 
> 

Well I do, but it sounds like everyone is complaining
about the LA setup time (bringing it out of storage).
Mine is a permanent fixture on my bench, with loads of
various sized test clips (and a full set of dip test
clips), in 30 seconds I can have it powered up and
tracing on 8 timing signals, little longer if I want
16 bits of address/data and a clock, can't remember
the last time I used a scope. 

But I suppose it like comparing a table saw with a
band saw, what they can do overlaps, and one does
certain things much better then the other, but you use
what you are more familar with and have available and
solve the problem whatever its limitations.



		
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