Sun still has them(patches for SunOS)- just a bit difficult to get at http://access1.sun.com/patch.y2k/ will get you y2k and security patches back to "Solaris SPARC 1.0" as they call it I'm running 4.1.3_U1 with all patches-not on a public network- is that O.K.? What bennies are in 4.1.4?