Collectables?
Allison
ajp166 at bellatlantic.net
Sat Nov 12 23:29:34 CST 2005
>
>Subject: Re: Collectables?
> From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:40:32 -0800
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
>
>On 11/12/2005 at 10:10 PM Allison wrote:
>
>>Original topic: I'd like to get that Polymorphic to build a small system.
>>
>>I'm thinking Cpro CPUZ, Cpro Disk1A, Interfacer-II and Ram22. That will
>>build a z80, floppy interfaced, 256k with enough parallel IO to do an
>>IDE.
>
>It's yours as a bare board for USD $10 and with 6 nice new gold-plated
>connectors $20. Shipping extra. I seem to recall that Polymophic tied the
>data in and data out together on their boards, but the MB doesn't show
>that.
6??? I thought it was four slots. It's a deal, I'll get you you off line.
>I used to have the IMSAI floppy disk system too, but that wasn't engineered
>nearly as well as the CPU box. One small power supply for each Calcomp
>floppy with some blinkin LED's on a small front panel. I retired the IMSAI
>FDC and Calcomps (the stepper motors eventually both shorted out).
>Replaced the drives with Siemens double-sided units and used Don Tarbell's
>FDC. Much improvement. I used that setup until I retired the system. The
>MITS 4K DRAM boards got replaced with some SSM SRAM (lots of 2102's)
>boards. The CPU was a Z80 board of uncertain vintage.
>
>I suppose the whole mess could be replaced with a Rabbit CPU and a one-chip
>FDC.
Yep but not near as fun or noisy.
>>On a related note I've been doing some 1802 coding and that 1977 NS*
>>box is still running Avocets 1802 assembler under cp/m. Still kicking
>>after 27+ years.
>
>The 1802 was barely capable as a CPU. The only redeeming thing was that it
>was static CMOS and could be run down to a DC clock rate. But that was
>true of the IM6100, too, wasn't it?
Yes the CMOS 6100 and 6120 wer static. The 1802 still has a following.
It's a bizzare part, dumber than an 8048, almost one step down from
a PDP8 but none the less useful and people are still using it! Its
attractive feature was romless with simple front pannel could be
built until I did it with and 8035 and fewer parts. The DMA was nice
but hard to use and killed CPU bandwidth. Yet I have three working
flavors of it and the first was an ELF built off the PE article when
it appeared.
Come to think of it in the homebrew computer hobby the Z80, 6502, 1802,
and maybe the 6809 are the top players to this day.
>Were there any hobbyist systems built around the Fairchild 9440 almost-Nova
>chip?
Oh, the microFlame. Never saw a hobbiest system of one. I think the only
customers that ever saw one were military contractors. Tried to buy one
and got blown of by the fairchild rep. I do have a die in lucite
paperweight for that effort from one of their promotions.
Allison
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