BTW, thinking of that RL8A, I have the prints for it... Al, are those on bitsavers? -- bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/ I wish you'd said something a few days ago. Thom send SIX large Gaylord boxs of cables to the shredder yesterday! :-( -- Cables are MUCH more difficult to find than the boards themselves! esp things like the cable that goes from a TD8/E to a TU56