Apple Goes Intel...

[Roger Merchberger]

Rumor has it that Paul Koning may have mentioned these words:

Damn, Jay... shoot me now. I tried as long as I could to stay out of 
this... :-/

> >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Smith <eric at brouhaha.com> writes:
>
>  >> So what was the purpose of your reply, then, if you have no
>  >> interest in either Windows or Mac? In my case, the whole reason I
>  >> went with Mac is to keep Windows off my desktop and because I
>  >> think Apple has superior hardware engineering to a whitebox PC.
>
>  Eric> Than an average whitebox PC, quite probably.  But if you choose
>  Eric> components for your whitebox PC carefully, I think you can get
>  Eric> stuff significantly better than what Apple makes, ...

Just ask my Dual Athlon MP -- 4 years old, and my Apple friend begrudgingly 
admits that the hardware is *more* bulletproof than his.

Oh, and don't ask him about *both* of his Dual G5's that he had to send 
back to Apple for a full refund as they were unstable as get-all.

[ He still loves his iMac and iBook, tho. Personally, with the exception 
that Apple forgot 2 buttons for the pointing device, the laptop impressed 
me, too. They still don't have the battery life of my Crusoe based laptop, 
let alone my Model 200! ]

>Not likely.  Part of the magic is in the packaging.  You *cannot* get
>the cooling & packaging of Mac Mini in a PC of any kind, nor the
>cooling & packaging of the Power G5.

Please don't make blanket statements before doing the research.

http://www.hushtechnologies.com/start.html

They've been around a lot longer than the Mini...

There's even a silent PC review site:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article151-page1.html

If you want to see something totally disgusting [yet somewhat ontopic]

http://www.mini-itx.com/news/67432668/

A retailer specializing in super-quiet PCs, with decent prices:

http://www.logicsupply.com/

Oh, and my Shuttle PCs, whilst not completely fanless, are rather quiet.

These people made the Mini, even before the Mini:

http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8574944925.html

Almost 4 years ago!

>Yes, you could replicate that in a PC *if* you do your own mechanical
>work.  But if you want to use off the shelf building blocks, you can't
>get there from here.

See above, especially the logicsupply site. Pffft.

Google's an amazing thing, eh?

Again, apologies to the list & all, but blanket statements bother me. 
Totally frelling incorrect blanket statements I can't just let pass by.

Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger

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sysadmin, Iceberg Computers |           Russell Nelson
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