Hobbyist DECnet Network - Update

Tim tradde at excite.com
Sat Dec 17 11:07:38 CST 2005


What DEC OS's support DecNet?  I do not have the ability to
run RSX-11.  I am still trying to get a full install of BSD 2.11
onto my pdp-11/84.  Will BSD support DecNet?  My problem at this
point is getting the rest of the install over to the system.
I have the root install done, but have the 3 large tar files
with no easy way to get them to the host.  I have used VTServer
but it does not support files over 32M and this image is much
larger than that.  There is a Windows version of VTServer that
is supposed to fix this but it does not work right for me.
I even tried porting it to Linux, but had issues compiling it
and once I got it it still would not work as well as the version
I have before I tried that.  I'd like to get my 11 up and running
fully and first see if I could connect it to my home network.
This DecNet thing sounds interesting too.  Kind of like what
I had with a BBS and connected to neighbor nodes for e-mail and
such.
  Tim Radde

 --- On Thu 12/15, Robert Armstrong < bob at jfcl.com > wrote:
From: Robert Armstrong [mailto: bob at jfcl.com]
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org, hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:00:49 -0800
Subject: Hobbyist DECnet Network - Update

  The hobbyist DECnet is actually working - we have now five distinctlocations connected and six or seven machines online 24x7 with a coupledozen more that are turned on occasionally.  Here's a SHOW NETWORK -OpenVMS Network status for local node  2.1 LEGATO on 15-DEC-2005 18:40:09.95             Area   Cost  Hops    Next Hop to Area               1      4     1      SVA-0     ->  1.13   MIM               2      0     0      (Local)   ->  2.1    LEGATO              11      4     1      SVA-0     -> 11.1023 A11RTR              60     10     1      TCP-0-0   -> 60.664  PDXVAX        Node          Links  Cost  Hops   Next Hop to Node     2.7    CODA         0     4     1     SVA-0     ->  2.7    CODA     2.100  PETEY        0    10     1     TCP-0-1   ->  2.100  PETEY                Total of 2 nodes.  You can see a full list of the nodes and descriptions here	http://www.jfcl.com/Computers/dcn.pdfWe've been using Johnny's HECnet mailing list to communicate	
http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet.htmlIf you'd like to hook up we'd love to have more nodes!Bob Armstrong-----Original Message----->from: Robert Armstrong [mailto:bob at jfcl.com] >I'm interested in setting up a network of hobbyist DEC machines linked >together in a DECnet phase IV network.  Why?  I suppose there's no >really good reason, but it seems like it would be fun to be able to do >"SHOW NET" or "NCP SHOW ACTIVE NODES" and see a whole long list of >machines that aren't mine :-)  Besides, it would be a good way to share>access to real, non-simulated, VMS/RSX/RSTS and even, maybe, TOPS-10 >or 20, machines.>>  Does anyone else agree?  Is anyone else interested in participating?>>  I know I'm not the first to think of this; in particular, I've had a >few email discussions recently with Johnny Billquist about HECnet,>>	http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet.html>>At some point I'd like to link up with HECnet, but right now Johnny is >having ISP problems and it sounds like 
HECnet is down to one or two >nodes.>>  Are there any other hobbyist DECnet associations that are going > strong?>>  As for technology, it seems like the best thing would be to use the >Internet as our communications medium.  Nobody wants to pay for >point-to-point leased lines anymore, after all.  Multinet, TCPware, and>even DECNet Phase V all have the ability to send DECnet traffic over IP.  >Right now I'm leaning towards Multinet - they have a free hobbyist >license program, and Multinet can create point-to-point virtual DECnet >circuits using UDP packets that can be routed over the Internet.  >They're simple to set up and administer.>>  I have a fair amount of Internet bandwidth available at my location, >and I can set aside a VS4000 VLC or model 90 to serve as a dedicated PhaseIV >routing node.>>Bob Armstrong

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