Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2111
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" <os2genau_digest at os2site.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 00:01:02 WST-8WST,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,0

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Monday 27 July 2015
 Number  2111
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Subjects for today
 
1   Need help with video problem : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan.org>
2  Re:  Need help with video problem : <deadmail>
3  Re:  Need help with video problem : Voytek <voytek at sbt.net.au>
4  Re:  /[Weasel] Need help with video problem : <deadmail>
5  Re:  Need help with video problem : Glenn Montgomery <glenn at montysplace.net>
6   OS/2 as a VM? : Voytek <voytek at sbt.net.au>
7  Re:  Need help with video problem : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan.org>
8  Re:  OS/2 as a VM? : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.id.au>
9   Need help with video problem : Mike O'Connor <majilok at gmail.com>
10  Re:  Need help with video problem : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan.org>

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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:09:28 +1000
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan.org>
Subject:   Need help with video problem

Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen resolution (down to 800x600, 
for example), when I don't have any access to the OS/2 desktop? I'm 
sending this from my Windows laptop, because at present I have no way of 
using my OS/2 machine. Luckily I can receive mail here.

What happened:
This morning when I booted up the computer, the monitor failed. (Faulty 
power switch, perhaps, but in any case it's unusable.) Luckily I had a 
spare monitor, so I connected that. All was working well except I had a 
funny aspect ratio because of a different-shaped screen. I should have 
decided to live with that, but no, I had to fiddle. I set the screen 
resolution to the next-higher resolution (I've forgotten the exact 
numbers; I think I started from a 1280 width, but am not sure).

When I rebooted all went well until the sound that says the desktop is 
coming up. At that point the monitor said "No signal". Presumable I'd 
picked a resolution the monitor couldn't support. But now I have no way 
of going back to the old resolution!

I tried booting from an eCS (2.0) installation disk. That took a few 
tries, but eventually I got a successful start by specifying "Legacy 
Hardware", no AMOUSE, and Snap graphics. Unfortunately when it got to 
the point of a graphics screen coming up, the whole display was 
scrunched up in about the top quarter of the screen, too small for 
anything to be readable. I had hoped that the installer would default 
back to a low resolution, but apparently not. Either that, or I have the 
display controller stuck in a state where the resolution can't be 
changed. (Or there's a hardware fault, but I'm hoping not.)

Any suggestions? It seems to me that I only need to reset the system to 
some sort of initial default, but I can't see how to do that when I have 
no access to the desktop.

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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:37:43 +0800 (WST)
From:  <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Need help with video problem

Hi Peter,

> Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen resolution (down to 800x600, for example), when I don't have any access to the 
> OS/2 desktop? I'm sending this from my Windows laptop, because at present I have no way of using my OS/2 machine. 
> Luckily I can receive mail here.

When you see the OS/2 block top left of screen right
after your computer starts to boot from the HD, press
ALT-F2, select the reset video option, I cant remember
which key it was but theres a list.

See further below if you get a screen using only part of
your monitors realestate.

Then you can re/install SNAP Graphics ;-)

> Unfortunately when it got to the point of a graphics
> screen coming up, the whole display was scrunched
> up in about the top quarter of the screen, too small for
> anything to be readable. I had hoped that the installer
> would default back to a low resolution, but apparently not.

Depending on your monitor, that might be the lower
resolution. A lot of LCD screens can only display there
native resolution as they dont include screen size rescalars
to bring the LCD monitor price down, so the only way
to get ful screen size is to set that screens native resolution.

I google the monitor make and model number to find
the screen resolution before changing settings. Depending
on the monitors resolution you might also have to
install the Panorama video driver, assuming here that
your graphics card can actually drive the required
screen resolution.

Hope the aboves your problem because thats easier.

Cheers
Ian Manners
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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:40:25 +1000
From:  Voytek <voytek at sbt.net.au>
Subject:  Re:  Need help with video problem

On 27 July 2015 1:09:28 pm AEST, Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan.org> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen resolution (down to 800x600, 
>for example), when I don't have any access to the OS/2 desktop? I'm 
>sending this from my Windows laptop, because at present I have no way
>of 
>using my OS/2 machine. Luckily I can receive mail here.
>
>What happened:
>This morning when I booted up the computer, the monitor failed. (Faulty
>
>power switch, perhaps, but in any case it's unusable.) Luckily I had a 
>spare monitor, so I connected that. All was working well except I had a
>
>funny aspect ratio because of a different-shaped screen. I should have 
>decided to live with that, but no, I had to fiddle. I set the screen 
>resolution to the next-higher resolution (I've forgotten the exact 
>numbers; I think I started from a 1280 width, but am not sure).
>
>When I rebooted all went well until the sound that says the desktop is 
>coming up. At that point the monitor said "No signal". Presumable I'd 
>picked a resolution the monitor couldn't support. But now I have no way
>
>of going back to the old resolution!
>
>I tried booting from an eCS (2.0) installation disk. That took a few 
>tries, but eventually I got a successful start by specifying "Legacy 
>Hardware", no AMOUSE, and Snap graphics. Unfortunately when it got to 
>the point of a graphics screen coming up, the whole display was 
>scrunched up in about the top quarter of the screen, too small for 
>anything to be readable. I had hoped that the installer would default 
>back to a low resolution, but apparently not. Either that, or I have
>the 
>display controller stuck in a state where the resolution can't be 
>changed. (Or there's a hardware fault, but I'm hoping not.)
>
>Any suggestions? It seems to me that I only need to reset the system to
>
>some sort of initial default, but I can't see how to do that when I
>have 
>no access to the desktop.

Testing my RAM here... Wasn't it the go to boot to, whatever that screen is called ? where you have 'choose to recover', as well as, reset to VGA?

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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:50:53 +0800 (WST)
From:  <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  /[Weasel] Need help with video problem

Hi Peter,

Neil's bit sounds better to try first that my advice,

> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:09:28 +1000, Peter Moylan  wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen resolution (down to 800x600, 
> > for example), when I don't have any access to the OS/2 desktop?
> 
> If it's a recent eCS, then ctrl-alt-del will bring up a menu. Go to command
> line.
> 
> \os2\setres.cm d will reset the display to 800 x 600 x 16 colors.
> 
> If you can get the Alt F1 at boot and display the recovery choices menu, then
> setres from command line.
> 
> Some monitors don't work well with the recovery choices menu.
> 
> Panorama users can use panoutil -p.
> 
> best regards,
> Neil
> --
> Neil Waldhauer, neil at blondeguy.com

Cheers
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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:54:47 +1000
From:  Glenn Montgomery <glenn at montysplace.net>
Subject:  Re:  Need help with video problem

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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:11:28 +1000
From:  Voytek <voytek at sbt.net.au>
Subject:   OS/2 as a VM?

I'd like to set up OS/2 4.5x as a guest VM, what are my options for VM host system?

I think I might have already asked that a while back... But haven't really progressed with this as yet, also would want to set up some Windows VMs, fwiw, like Win server.

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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 16:39:33 +1000
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan.org>
Subject:  Re:  Need help with video problem

On 2015-Jul-27 13:54, Glenn Montgomery wrote:
> Hi Peter, isn't there a F1 (from memory) pressing during the ecs blob thing at boot that takes you into a menu to reset the video? Hope this helps, Glenn
>

I ended up trying this in the course of my experimenting. It works, but
turns out to be a bad idea for those of us using the Panorama video
driver. The catch is that there's nothing in the system setup (or in the
help, as far as I can see) to tell you how to re-enable Panorama, so it
took me a lot of fooling around to change back to anything other than
800x600. The "Selective Install" options do not support Panorama.

-- 
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                                      http://www.pmoylan.org

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:52:18 +0900
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.id.au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 as a VM?

Hey Voytek,

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Voytek <voytek at sbt.net.au> wrote:
> I'd like to set up OS/2 4.5x as a guest VM, what are my options for 
> VM host system?
> 
> I think I might have already asked that a while back... But haven't 
> really progressed with this as yet, also would want to set up some 
> Windows VMs, fwiw, like Win server.
I run eCS here using Virtualbox running on Ubuntu Desktop 15.04. Same 
box also runs a copy of Windows Server 2008 for testing Samba client ;)

Cheers,

Paul

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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 19:59:08 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <majilok at gmail.com>
Subject:   Need help with video problem

Peter Moylan wrote the following at 2015-07-27 16:39 AEST:
> On 2015-Jul-27 13:54, Glenn Montgomery wrote:
> > Hi Peter, isn't there a F1 (from memory) pressing during the ecs 
> blob thing at boot that takes you into a menu to reset the video? Hope 
> this helps, Glenn
> >

> I ended up trying this in the course of my experimenting. It works, but
> turns out to be a bad idea for those of us using the Panorama video
> driver. The catch is that there's nothing in the system setup (or in the
> help, as far as I can see) to tell you how to re-enable Panorama, so it
> took me a lot of fooling around to change back to anything other than
> 800x600. The "Selective Install" options do not support Panorama.
>
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> Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan.org 
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Hi Peter,

You're not looking in the correct Desktop folder!

If you look in the Install/Remove fol;der you should see in any eCS 2.x 
installation an application labelled "Video Driver Wizard" which allows 
you to selectively install SNAP-Panorama-GRADD-VGA.

Regards,

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Date:  Mon, 27 Jul 2015 21:46:31 +1000
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan.org>
Subject:  Re:  Need help with video problem

On 2015-Jul-27 19:59, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Peter Moylan wrote the following at 2015-07-27 16:39 AEST:
>> On 2015-Jul-27 13:54, Glenn Montgomery wrote:
>> > Hi Peter, isn't there a F1 (from memory) pressing during the ecs
>> blob thing at boot that takes you into a menu to reset the video?
>> Hope this helps, Glenn
>> >
>
>> I ended up trying this in the course of my experimenting. It works, but
>> turns out to be a bad idea for those of us using the Panorama video
>> driver. The catch is that there's nothing in the system setup (or in the
>> help, as far as I can see) to tell you how to re-enable Panorama, so it
>> took me a lot of fooling around to change back to anything other than
>> 800x600. The "Selective Install" options do not support Panorama.
>>
> Hi Peter,
>
> You're not looking in the correct Desktop folder!
>
> If you look in the Install/Remove fol;der you should see in any eCS
> 2.x installation an application labelled "Video Driver Wizard" which
> allows you to selectively install SNAP-Panorama-GRADD-VGA.
>

Thanks. I thought I'd searched all the folders, but apparently missed
this one. I'll try to keep it in mind for future fiddling.

I thought wizards were only found in Windows (and in Unseen University).

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

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