Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2033
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:01:00 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 08 January 2011
 Number  2033
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Subjects for today
 
1   How to install Apache? : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
2  Re:  How to install Apache? : Dennis Nolan <dennis at jeg-og dot com>
3   SCSI cards : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
4  Re:  SCSI cards : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
5  Re:  SCSI cards : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
6  Re:  SCSI cards : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
7  Re:  SCSI cards : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
8  Re:  SCSI cards : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
9  Re:  Boot Linux with Boot Manager : Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
10  Re:  SCSI cards : Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:23:48 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:   How to install Apache?

I downloaded Apache 2 a couple of days ago, but now I find that I don't
know how to configure it. Is there a how-to or something similar out there?

I got as far as discovering that the *.html files in the "manual"
subdirectory are not human-readable, but that the *.html.en files can be
read by Firefox. From this I deduce that I can probably create a
readable manual by deleting all the *.html files and then renaming all
the *.html.en files; but I'm reluctant to fiddle with something I don't
understand. Presumably there's a preprocessor that I haven't yet found
that will do this.

Aside: every time I try to install an application ported from Linux I
run into documentation/installation problems. The Linux community seems
to have a mindset that reminds me of the Catholic church at the time of
the Protestant Reformation. There's an ongoing struggle between those
who believe that software should be accessible to everyone and those who
believe that only the priests should be allowed to read the manual.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                      http://www.pmoylan dot org

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Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 10:08:39 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennis at jeg-og dot com>
Subject:  Re:  How to install Apache?

Hi Peter

I don't know if this is any help, but, Apache friends create 
distributions for windows, Linux and Soloras so looking at the windows 
docs may give some insight other than that maybe the docs for Warp 4 
server might help.

Happy New Year

Dennis.

On 8/01/2011 9:23 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> I downloaded Apache 2 a couple of days ago, but now I find that I don't
> know how to configure it. Is there a how-to or something similar out there?
>
> I got as far as discovering that the *.html files in the "manual"
> subdirectory are not human-readable, but that the *.html.en files can be
> read by Firefox. From this I deduce that I can probably create a
> readable manual by deleting all the *.html files and then renaming all
> the *.html.en files; but I'm reluctant to fiddle with something I don't
> understand. Presumably there's a preprocessor that I haven't yet found
> that will do this.
>
> Aside: every time I try to install an application ported from Linux I
> run into documentation/installation problems. The Linux community seems
> to have a mindset that reminds me of the Catholic church at the time of
> the Protestant Reformation. There's an ongoing struggle between those
> who believe that software should be accessible to everyone and those who
> believe that only the priests should be allowed to read the manual.
>
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Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:57:45 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:   SCSI cards

Hi,

I have an Adaptec 2906 SCSI card installed in my new computer which 
works well with ECS 2.0 but WIN 7 has no drivers for it. Some time ago I 
bought an Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI card thinking that both systems would 
recognize it. However I wasn't aware that it's adapter is a smaller 50 
pin connector and not the larger 25 pin connector that the 2906 card 
has. Do all SCSI cards now have 50 pin connectors? If so, when did the 
change occur?

BTW I still like ECS more than WIN 7. Now that I have ECS 2.0 set up I 
find it easier to use than WIN 7 and am dismayed that WIN 7 doesn't 
recognize my SCSI card or the on board sound. I also find the desktop 
much better and WIN 7's lack of file extensions is annoying.

Regards,

Alan Duval

Regards,

Alan Duval
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Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:10:56 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  SCSI cards

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an Adaptec 2906 SCSI card installed in my new computer which 
> works well with ECS 2.0 but WIN 7 has no drivers for it. Some time ago 
> I bought an Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI card thinking that both systems 
> would recognize it. However I wasn't aware that it's adapter is a 
> smaller 50 pin connector and not the larger 25 pin connector that the 
> 2906 card has. Do all SCSI cards now have 50 pin connectors? If so, 
> when did the change occur?
>
> BTW I still like ECS more than WIN 7. Now that I have ECS 2.0 set up I 
> find it easier to use than WIN 7 and am dismayed that WIN 7 doesn't 
> recognize my SCSI card or the on board sound. I also find the desktop 
> much better and WIN 7's lack of file extensions is annoying.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan Duval
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan Duval
> --------------------------------------------------
> 
> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
===
>
Hi Alan,

   If you are using the 32 bit version, not the 64 bit version here are 
the Windows 7 drivers for your adaptec 2906:

http://www.adaptec dot com/en-us/downloads/ms/ms_win_7/productid=ava-2906&dn=adaptec+scsi+card+2906.html

-- 
Cheers/eCS2.0

Ed

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http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes
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Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:28:04 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  SCSI cards

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Alan Duval wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an Adaptec 2906 SCSI card installed in my new computer which 
>> works well with ECS 2.0 but WIN 7 has no drivers for it. Some time 
>> ago I bought an Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI card thinking that both systems 
>> would recognize it. However I wasn't aware that it's adapter is a 
>> smaller 50 pin connector and not the larger 25 pin connector that the 
>> 2906 card has. Do all SCSI cards now have 50 pin connectors? If so, 
>> when did the change occur?
>>
>> BTW I still like ECS more than WIN 7. Now that I have ECS 2.0 set up 
>> I find it easier to use than WIN 7 and am dismayed that WIN 7 doesn't 
>> recognize my SCSI card or the on board sound. I also find the desktop 
>> much better and WIN 7's lack of file extensions is annoying.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Duval
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Duval
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>===
>>
> Hi Alan,
>
>   If you are using the 32 bit version, not the 64 bit version here are 
> the Windows 7 drivers for your adaptec 2906:
>
> http://www.adaptec dot com/en-us/downloads/ms/ms_win_7/productid=ava-2906&dn=adaptec+scsi+card+2906.html 
>
>
Forgot to say that there have been many SCSI connectors for many years. 
25, 50, and more connectors and several different sizes. There are 
adapters for some of the adapters, but some are incompatible with each 
other.

Hope fully going back to the old card and cable and adding the Windows 7 
driver will fix the problem for you.

-- 
Cheers/eCS2.0

Ed

Please checkout my podcasts at:
http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes
To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed

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 http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:20:58 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  SCSI cards

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Alan Duval wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an Adaptec 2906 SCSI card installed in my new computer which 
>> works well with ECS 2.0 but WIN 7 has no drivers for it. Some time 
>> ago I bought an Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI card thinking that both systems 
>> would recognize it. However I wasn't aware that it's adapter is a 
>> smaller 50 pin connector and not the larger 25 pin connector that the 
>> 2906 card has. Do all SCSI cards now have 50 pin connectors? If so, 
>> when did the change occur?
>>
>> BTW I still like ECS more than WIN 7. Now that I have ECS 2.0 set up 
>> I find it easier to use than WIN 7 and am dismayed that WIN 7 doesn't 
>> recognize my SCSI card or the on board sound. I also find the desktop 
>> much better and WIN 7's lack of file extensions is annoying.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Duval
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Duval
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>===
>>
> Hi Alan,
>
>   If you are using the 32 bit version, not the 64 bit version here are 
> the Windows 7 drivers for your adaptec 2906:
>
> http://www.adaptec dot com/en-us/downloads/ms/ms_win_7/productid=ava-2906&dn=adaptec+scsi+card+2906.html 
>
>
Unfortunately I am using the 64 bit WIN 7. My 32 bit version got scratched.

Regards,

Alan
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:24:27 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  SCSI cards

<quote who="Alan Duval">
> Hi,
>
>
> I have an Adaptec 2906 SCSI card installed in my new computer which
> works well with ECS 2.0 but WIN 7 has no drivers for it. Some time ago I
> bought an Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI card thinking that both systems would
> recognize it. However I wasn't aware that it's adapter is a smaller 50 pin
> connector and not the larger 25 pin connector that the 2906 card has. Do
> all SCSI cards now have 50 pin connectors? If so, when did the change
> occur?

it's been high density 68 pin last I set up a SCSI system

some details here:

http://www.datapro dot net/techinfo/scsi_doc.html

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:47:32 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  SCSI cards

Alan Duval ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> I have an Adaptec 2906 SCSI
Stone age .... no wonder you have had troubles after reinstalling eCS.
> card installed in my new computer which works well with ECS 2.0 but 
> WIN 7 has no drivers for it. Some time ago I bought an Adaptec 
> AHA-2940 SCSI card thinking that both systems would recognize it. 
> However I wasn't aware that it's adapter is a smaller 50 pin connector 
> and not the larger 25 pin connector that the 2906 card has.
Get yourself out of trouble, install the AHA-2940 and look for an adapter  25 pins < --- > 50 pins. Of course you would have to look  in specialized shops/internet shops,  and these devices are rather pricy, but that would be better than messing around for ever, wouldn't it? 

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:47:08 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Boot Linux with Boot Manager

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:25:27 +1100, Alan Duval wrote:

>I have not found an option as to where to install Grub or Grub2 for a 
>long time.

I've been playing with a disk installed with ECS (New for me) booted with BM
and a couple of weeks ago installed PCLinuxOS LXE and added it to BM menu
and it dual boots a treat. Now if I can do it, anyone can.

So just in case I misremembered I plugged in a clean drive and installed BM 
from DFsee. The closest distribution to what you used I had handy is Kubuntu 9.04.
This is Ubuntu with KDE desktop by default and I doubt there would be much 
difference in the installer. Booted the live CD and when install starts it announces
a 6 step setup. First 3 are pretty generic then at step 4 it's "Prep Disk Space".
Here specify manual partition (advanced). 
As a minimum I create  /, swap, /home.
Step 5 is username - password setup.
Step 6 is the crunch - Lots of Blah - install with following settings - warnings re 
data loss - list of partitions to be formatted.
Hot to click install button? Where's Grub going to end up? Install from here 
will put it in the MBR, every time!
Whazzat  "Advanced" button bottom RH corner of the screen? 
Opens to advanced options, the main one being installing the boot loader 
in a partition of your choice. In this case it  displays them thusly.

	/dev/sda
	/dev/sda1	BM
	/dev/sda5	/
	/dev/sda7	/home

I indicated sda5 would do, away it went and enentually wanted a reboot.
Booted DFSee and added sda5 to BM menu. Reboot hung, no BM.
Started ECS install to stage of disk integrity check where it did it's 
"fingerprint" thing. Reboot - BM - Linux up and running.
You can then tweak grub to show the Linux boot options or catch them
with ESC key on the way through.
I expect that DFSee has a function that would make using the ECS CD
unnecessary - but a bit too arcane for me - prolly better to use the ECS
disk entirely.

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:09:23 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  SCSI cards

On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:47:32 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>Alan Duval ha scritto:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an Adaptec 2906 SCSI
>Stone age .... no wonder you have had troubles after reinstalling eCS.
>> card installed in my new computer which works well with ECS 2.0 but 
>> WIN 7 has no drivers for it. Some time ago I bought an Adaptec 
>> AHA-2940 SCSI card thinking that both systems would recognize it. 
>> However I wasn't aware that it's adapter is a smaller 50 pin connector 
>> and not the larger 25 pin connector that the 2906 card has.
>Get yourself out of trouble, install the AHA-2940 and look for an adapter  25 pins < --- > 
50 pins. Of course you would have to look  in specialized shops/internet shops,  and 
these devices are rather pricy, but that would be better than messing around for ever, 
wouldn't it? 
>

Recommend this outfit

http://store.stsi dot com/External-Cables_c_2754.html

				allenpl

>-- 
>Groeten uit Gent,
>
>   Kris
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------
> 
> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
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>
>

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