Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2032
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:01:00 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600

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Friday 07 January 2011
 Number  2032
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
2  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
3  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
4  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
5  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
6  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
7  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
8  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
9  Re:  Boot Linux with Boot Manager : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
10  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>

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Date:  Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:29:13 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

 On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:19:14 +1100 Alan Duval wrote: 
>
>One other problem.  I had copied Firefox Bookmarks from my previous PC 
>and then copied the file to the respective folder in ECS 2.0 but no 
>bookmarks are seen in Firefox. Usually this worked with previous 
>versions of Firefox but the import function of Firefox 3.5.3 only looks 
>for bookmarks in other browsers and not in other places.
>Do you know a way around this?
>

Hi Alan.

In Firefox 3.6 series (I am on 3.6.13) there is a HTML Import under
Organise Bookmarks.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 Zealot
Melbourne Victoria, AUSTRALIA
Email: talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:55:16 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

John Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:19:14 +1100 Alan Duval wrote:

>> One other problem.  I had copied Firefox Bookmarks from my previous
>> PC and then copied the file to the respective folder in ECS 2.0 but
>> no bookmarks are seen in Firefox. Usually this worked with previous
>>  versions of Firefox but the import function of Firefox 3.5.3 only
>> looks for bookmarks in other browsers and not in other places. Do
>> you know a way around this?
>
> In Firefox 3.6 series (I am on 3.6.13) there is a HTML Import under
> Organise Bookmarks.
>
That works, but there's an easier method if you have more than one
computer. The Firefox add-on called XMarks will synchronise your
bookmarks across multiple computers. I've been using it for quite a
while and it works well.

There's another add-on called Firefox Sync, which is an add-on for
Firefox 3 and a built-in part of Firefox 4. My experience of it is that
it's too buggy to be useful. If you look at discussions of it it appears
there are many people who are unhappy with their bad experience of it. I
can't use it at all, for the following reason: I started using it some
time ago, but then the Firefox Sync developers changed the format of
their central database, so my own stored data is unusable. To complicate
matters, there is no way to delete a Sync account, so I can't delete my
data and start again with the new format. The only way to get a new Sync
account would be to change my e-mail address.

(It's possible that this has been fixed in the last month or so. I've
given up checking. I only used Sync because XMarks was going to be
closed down, but XMarks has been revived - it was taken over by the
LastPass people. (LastPass is also an excellent feature. Some people
don't trust the way it stores your passwords, but I'm not nervous myself.))

At present I'm using Firefox 4.0b8pre, which is far better than Firefox
3 but which is incompatible with many add-ons. As a result I don't have
XMarks working here, although I'm still using it on my laptop and at
work. I do have Sync, but it doesn't work, so my bookmarks are slightly
out of date on this machine.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                      http://www.pmoylan dot org

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Date:  Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:16:06 -0700
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

Go out and get the XMarks extension for the old and new systems.  I have 
used it for quite some time to get bookmarks transferred.

On 1/6/2011 1:29 PM, John Angelico wrote:
>   On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:19:14 +1100 Alan Duval wrote:
>>
>> One other problem.  I had copied Firefox Bookmarks from my previous PC
>> and then copied the file to the respective folder in ECS 2.0 but no
>> bookmarks are seen in Firefox. Usually this worked with previous
>> versions of Firefox but the import function of Firefox 3.5.3 only looks
>> for bookmarks in other browsers and not in other places.
>> Do you know a way around this?
>>
>
> Hi Alan.
>
> In Firefox 3.6 series (I am on 3.6.13) there is a HTML Import under
> Organise Bookmarks.
>
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 Zealot
> Melbourne Victoria, AUSTRALIA
> Email: talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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>

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Sandia Park, NM
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/
Evil pursueth sinners: but to the righteous good shall be repaid. 
Proverbs 13:21

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Date:  Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:33:35 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:55:16 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:

snip

>That works, but there's an easier method if you have more than one
>computer. The Firefox add-on called XMarks will synchronise your
>bookmarks across multiple computers. I've been using it for quite a
>while and it works well.

Peter,
	Could you expand a little on how synching is done.

>
>
>
>(It's possible that this has been fixed in the last month or so. I've
>given up checking. I only used Sync because XMarks was going to be
>closed down, but XMarks has been revived - it was taken over by the
>LastPass people. (LastPass is also an excellent feature. Some people
>don't trust the way it stores your passwords, but I'm not nervous myself.))
>
>At present I'm using Firefox 4.0b8pre, which is far better than Firefox
>3 but which is incompatible with many add-ons. As a result I don't have
>XMarks working here, although I'm still using it on my laptop and at
>work. I do have Sync, but it doesn't work, so my bookmarks are slightly
>out of date on this machine.
>
>-- 
>Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
>                                      http://www.pmoylan dot org
>
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> 
> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
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>
>

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Date:  Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:44:49 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

Peter L Allen wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:55:16 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> snip
>
>   
>> That works, but there's an easier method if you have more than one
>> computer. The Firefox add-on called XMarks will synchronise your
>> bookmarks across multiple computers. I've been using it for quite a
>> while and it works well.
>>     
>
> Peter,
> 	Could you expand a little on how synching is done.
>   

Your bookmarks are actually kept on the XMarks site. (This could be seen
as an invasion of privacy, but I've never heard of anyone having trouble
that way. They're password protected.) When you first install the XMarks
add-on you're asked to create an account by giving an e-mail address and
password. (No compulsory charge. The facility is funded by donations.)
You also have to set a few options, for things like whether history and
open tabs should also be synchronised. Your bookmarks are then saved on
their site.

On second and later computers, when you install XMarks you just tell it
you have an existing account, and you supply the password. You're then
given the choice of
 - discard local bookmarks, download saved bookmarks from server;
 - discard bookmarks on server, upload local bookmarks;
 - merge both sets of bookmarks.

That's for the initial setup. From then on, you usually don't have to do
anything. The synchronisation happens in the background. I think it
happens each time Firefox is closed.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                      http://www.pmoylan dot org

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Date:  Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:24 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:44:49 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:

>Peter L Allen wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:55:16 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>
>>   
>>> That works, but there's an easier method if you have more than one
>>> computer. The Firefox add-on called XMarks will synchronise your
>>> bookmarks across multiple computers. I've been using it for quite a
>>> while and it works well.
>>>     
>>
>> Peter,
>> 	Could you expand a little on how synching is done.
>>   
>
>Your bookmarks are actually kept on the XMarks site. (This could be seen
>as an invasion of privacy, but I've never heard of anyone having trouble
>that way. They're password protected.) When you first install the XMarks
>add-on you're asked to create an account by giving an e-mail address and
>password. (No compulsory charge. The facility is funded by donations.)
>You also have to set a few options, for things like whether history and
>open tabs should also be synchronised. Your bookmarks are then saved on
>their site.
>
>On second and later computers, when you install XMarks you just tell it
>you have an existing account, and you supply the password. You're then
>given the choice of
> - discard local bookmarks, download saved bookmarks from server;
> - discard bookmarks on server, upload local bookmarks;
> - merge both sets of bookmarks.
>
>That's for the initial setup. From then on, you usually don't have to do
>anything. The synchronisation happens in the background. I think it
>happens each time Firefox is closed.
>
>-- 
>Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
>                                      http://www.pmoylan dot org
>
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> 
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>
>

Thanks - I'll give it a whirl.

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Date:  Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:59:44 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

John Angelico wrote:
>  On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:19:14 +1100 Alan Duval wrote: 
>   
>> One other problem.  I had copied Firefox Bookmarks from my previous PC 
>> and then copied the file to the respective folder in ECS 2.0 but no 
>> bookmarks are seen in Firefox. Usually this worked with previous 
>> versions of Firefox but the import function of Firefox 3.5.3 only looks 
>> for bookmarks in other browsers and not in other places.
>> Do you know a way around this?
>>
>>     
>
> Hi Alan.
>
> In Firefox 3.6 series (I am on 3.6.13) there is a HTML Import under
> Organise Bookmarks.
>   

Thanks John,

I found that HTML Import under Organize Bookmarks. I'd tried File --> 
import and thought that was the only import utility.
Also must get Xmarks that Peter and Chuck recommend.

BTW the fonts in the title bar and dropdown menus in Firefox that is 
installed with ECS2.0 look terrible as they are in very bold type. Do 
you and others find that also or is it just a problem with my PC? All 
the other programs are OK.

Regards,

Alan

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Date:  Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:18:06 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

 On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:59:44 +1100 Alan Duval wrote: 
>
>
>BTW the fonts in the title bar and dropdown menus in Firefox that is 
>installed with ECS2.0 look terrible as they are in very bold type. Do 
>you and others find that also or is it just a problem with my PC? All 
>the other programs are OK.
>

One of my older Firefox installs (3.5 series) had bold fonts. But my 3.6 is
fine.

Some of it could be the Theme/s you use. I have a selection of compact
themes, and large font themes (my eyes aren't what they used to be...).

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 Zealot
Melbourne Victoria, AUSTRALIA
Email: talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:25:27 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Boot Linux with Boot Manager

Peter L Allen wrote:
> At the extreme risk of teaching old hands etc, eggs etc..
>
> The advanced or custom whatever intallation mode must be used.
>
> When at the final step and pointer is hovering over the install button, back off and think 
> where have you specified that Grub is to be installed in root. If not POSITVE about this 
> go back and look for the option. It may be a button on a previous screen that opens a 
> dialogue and may named anything but "where do you wish to install Grub".
>   
I have not found an option as to where to install Grub or Grub2 for a 
long time. I believe Slackware still has one but haven't tried it. All 
the other distributions of Linux allow partitioning the disk and which 
partition to put root. That just means that that is the partition where 
booting will occur. Apparently Grub or Grub2 gets written to the MBR. 
When I installed Ubuntu 9.10 to the HD that didn't have ECS, I selected 
that drive to boot from in BIOS and thought that Ubuntu would naturally 
write Grub2 to that disk but it must have written it to the 2nd disk 
that ECS was on as I couldn't boot ECS when I changed to It's drive in 
BIOS. Couldn't find any way to get ECS to boot. Even copying my saved 
MBR back to the ECS drive using DFSee didn't work. Eventually deleted 
all partitions and wiped the start of the disk to zero and reinstalled 
but had to disconnect the second drive and reinstall again as Grub still 
showed up so I don't know where it was put.

Regards,

Alan
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Date:  Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:30:41 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Scanner and CopyShop problems

<quote who="Peter L Allen">
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:44:49 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:

>>>> That works, but there's an easier method if you have more than one
>>>> computer. The Firefox add-on called XMarks will synchronise your
>>>> bookmarks across multiple computers. I've been using it for quite a
>>>>  while and it works well.

>>> Could you expand a little on how synching is done.

reminds me somehow of the Andy Trick's LinkBuilder REXX script from
Prominic Techologies, back in 1996

you drag and drop desired links, enter comments into the URL objects,
then, run the script to create link pages

I should update them one day

http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/

These pages were generated by Prominic Techologies' LinkBuilder, heavily
modified by Chris Wenham, slightly modified by Don Young and last executed
on August 29, 2002 by Voytek Eymont.

-- 
Voytek

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