Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1956
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 00:01:08 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600

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Friday 21 May 2010
 Number  1956
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting * : Dennis Nolan <dennis at jeg-og dot com>
1  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting * : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
2  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting * : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
2  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting * : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
3  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting * : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
3  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting * : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
4  Re:  FOUND IT!! : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
4  Re:  FOUND IT!! : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
5  Re:  FOUND IT!! : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
5  Re:  FOUND IT!! : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
6   WE'RE UP, WELL SORTA.. : Nicholas Lysaght <nicholasrf at gmail dot com>
6  Re:  WE'RE UP, WELL SORTA.. : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
7  Re:  FOUND IT!! : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 00:43:16 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennis at jeg-og dot com>
Subject:  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting *

I've done some checking of past notification messages and since I last 
went mad and cleaned out the trash folder in firefox

Meeting date 	Date shown in message header 	
	Date shown in listing 	
25 Aug 	1/01/1970 	12:14PM 	20/08/2009 	7:50AM
22 Sept 	1/01/1970 	11:02AM 	17/09/2009 	5:58PM
27 Oct 	1/01/1970 	11:02AM 	25/10/2009 	11:33PM
24 Nov 	1/01/1970 	11:02AM 	28/11/2009 	4:36PM
Dec no meeting 	1/01/1970 	12:13PM 	16/01/2010 	12:15AM
26 Jan 	1/01/1970 	12:13PM 	2/04/2010 	5:30PM
23 Feb 	1/01/1970 	12:13PM 	2/04/2010 	5:30PM
23 Mar 	1/01/1970 	12:14PM 	16/03/2010 	11:42PM
27 Apr 	1/01/1970 	12:14PM 	25/04/2010 	10:20AM
25 May 	1/01/1970 	12:14PM 	20/05/2010 	11:16PM

The date shown in the header panel is different to the date in the 
message listing.
Note the time shown in the message header is different to the time in 
the listing.
Also that they repeat and change in blocks.
The time in the listing is also wrong, at least it is for the yesterdays 
message and so I suspect for the others as well.
Yesterday when it only displayed the time i seem to feel that it was 
correct, but it's to late to check it now.
Also the listing dates and times for Jan and Feb are identical, which I 
think is wrong.

It only seems to be a problem in the meeting notification messages.
Ian's normal messages seem to be shown correctly.

Anyway I've wasted enough time on this.

Dennis.

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> On 2010-05-20 20:32 (AEST), Simon Coulter wrote:
>>
>> On 20/05/2010, at 8:12 PM, John Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:22:44 +1000 Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
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>>>>>
>>>> This message shows up here with 1970-01-01 10:00 here (invalid
>>>> time-date-stamp?)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not here, though:
>>> Thu, 20 May 2010 17:22:44 +1000
>>
>> Same here. Examine the raw source of the original e-mail and you 
>> should see:
>>
>> To: "OS2GenAu" <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
>> X-Original-To: "OS/2GenAu" <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
>> Date: Tue, 20th May 2009 16:55:59 +1000 (EST)
>> Subject:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting *
>>
>> Regards,
>> Simon Coulter.
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> Being a little unwell at the time of sending the previous message, I'd 
> had to go and lie down without awaiting any responses - I just 
> happened to have that folder compacting in T'Bird, and it always 
> terminates that action by displaying the window with the "oldest" 
> message highlighted, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed it until 
> wondering why I had one unread (bolded) message showing.
>
> I hadn't checked the full headers, but also noticed additionally as:
>> Received: from localhost (invader dot comkal dot net [192.168.1.41]) by 
>> ns2 dot comkal dot net
>>    (Weasel v1.79) for<os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>; 20 May 2010 16:55:12 +1000
>> From: "List Admin"<list at os2 dot org dot au>
>> Resent-From: "Ian Manners"<deadmail>
>> To: "OS2GenAu"<os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
>> X-Original-To: "OS/2GenAu"<os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
>> Date: Tue, 20th May 2009 16:55:59 +1000 (EST)
>>    
> So I don't know how John reckons the DATE was correct there, unless he 
> was referring to his original sent copy, and that was altered in the 
> re-sending!
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 02:04:26 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting *

Hi Dennis,

>Anyway I've wasted enough time on this.

So has every one else, its a message, everyone received it :-o

List archives are available off the subscription page, which leads you
to <http://www.os2site.com/list/digest/> if anyone really wants to bother

I only went back to last months and that to has :-

"Date:  Tue, 20th April 2009 23:59:59 +1000 (EST)"

So I'd better remember to change the year :-)

Cheers
Ian Manners
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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 02:13:53 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting *

On 2010-05-21 02:04 (AEST), Ian Manners wrote:
> I only went back to last months and that to has :-
> "Date:  Tue, 20th April 2009 23:59:59 +1000 (EST)"
>
> So I'd better remember to change the year :-)
>
>
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
>    

Hi Ian,

Isn't that scriptable, to automate it?

Mike

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 02:36:35 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting *

Hi Mike,

>Isn't that scriptable, to automate it?

It use to be all automated but then the auto ran out.

It's on my todo list, along with a lot of other things I have really ment
to do, but as I get older, the bigger the list grows :o)

I've also tried doing it via Googel Calendar/GMail but it will only do it
for
me, I cant get it to send the reminders to the list, and I rarelt check my
gmail, so I didnt get back to that one either.

I could do it now but my eye balls are stressing, and well, tomorrow will
have its own problems to keep me busy.

Cheers
Ian Manners
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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 03:27:53 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting *

On 2010-05-21 02:36 (AEST), Ian Manners wrote:
> Hi Mike,tomorrow will
> have its own problems to keep me busy.
>
>    
Hi Ian,

Well that keeps Alzheimer's away!

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 06:40:44 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting *

Ian Manners wrote:
> On Tue, 20th May 2009 16:55:59 +1000 (EST), List Admin wrote:
>
> No idea were your getting your dates from but I get the above.
>
> Only because I obviously havent changed the header date since then :-)
>
> And I've just checked the headers in the mel07.msg file and the above is
> whats in it.
>
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
> http://www.os2site dot com/
>
>
>   
2009 not 2010 ??

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 09:23:02 +1000
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FOUND IT!!

Hi John,

As a lapsed SSS subscriber I am entitled to a copy of eCS 2.0 now that it has
finally come out.  But while this is mentioned on the web page
<http://shop.mensys.nl/cgi-bin/db2www/mns_art2.d2w/report?catname=eComStation#List>
nowhere is there a web page option to choose and download it.

Am I supposed to sign up again for a SSS subscription.?

---Quote On---
Software Subscription Services:
If you have previously bought Software Subscription Services, you are entitled 
to receive the GA version of eComStation 2.0, even the subscription expired. 
---Quote Off--

Anyone know how.?

(As usual, the Mensys web pages are as clear as mud.)

Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
21 May 2010   9:21

On Thu, 20 May 2010 21:47:49 +1000 (AEST), John Angelico wrote:
> "Packaging" too - BV has no limit to number of licences, plus has 12 months
> support, plus volume discounts. H&SV has 5 licences maximum plus only 6
> months support.
> 
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 09:35:29 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  FOUND IT!!

On 2010-05-21 09:23 (AEST), Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> As a lapsed SSS subscriber I am entitled to a copy of eCS 2.0 now that it has
> finally come out.  But while this is mentioned on the web page
> <http://shop.mensys.nl/cgi-bin/db2www/mns_art2.d2w/report?catname=eComStation#List>
> nowhere is there a web page option to choose and download it.
>
> Am I supposed to sign up again for a SSS subscription.?
>    
Hi Bob,

Mensys will contact you by e-mail and include a download link plus your 
new eCSV2.0 key!
They are hoping to have that done this week rather than next, according 
to the response i got from Joachim Benjamins of Mensys.

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 11:58:01 +1000
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FOUND IT!!

Thanks for the info Mike.

Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
21 May 2010   11:57

On Fri, 21 May 2010 09:35:29 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:

> On 2010-05-21 09:23 (AEST), Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > As a lapsed SSS subscriber I am entitled to a copy of eCS 2.0 now that it has
> > finally come out.  But while this is mentioned on the web page
> > <http://shop.mensys.nl/cgi-bin/db2www/mns_art2.d2w/report?catname=eComStation#List>
> > nowhere is there a web page option to choose and download it.
> >
> > Am I supposed to sign up again for a SSS subscription.?
> >    
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Mensys will contact you by e-mail and include a download link plus your 
> new eCSV2.0 key!
> They are hoping to have that done this week rather than next, according 
> to the response i got from Joachim Benjamins of Mensys.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 12:14:41 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  FOUND IT!!

On 2010-05-21 11:58 (AEST), Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote:
> Thanks for the info Mike.
>
> Regards,
> Robert Traynor (BobT).
>    
Hi Bob,

You're very welcome!

Mike

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 18:49:30 +0800
From:  Nicholas Lysaght <nicholasrf at gmail dot com>
Subject:   WE'RE UP, WELL SORTA..

Hi Ed. Doug.

This is coming to you (if we're really lucky), from a Vodafone 3G
modem/donle thing through the IBM Thinkpad R40 via a Netcomm 3GT1
Portable Router, in fixed LAN Mode. It will be interesting to see if
this makes it to OS2Genau.

It's taken a bit of a fight to get here, but the secret seems to be to
set it in LAN mode, to get the modem to do it's thing with the 3G
Dongle, then to fire the computer up. As I write, this is going back
to "green" which might mean GPRS strength, or no connection at all.
Probably doesn't help to live at the foot of the Darling Ranges, in
Perth, either :-)

Well, here goes. Open the manual and configure the Wireless bit tomorrow.

Regards

NICK
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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 21:11:32 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  WE'RE UP, WELL SORTA..

On 2010-05-21 20:49 (AEST), Nicholas Lysaght wrote:
> Hi Ed. Doug.
>
> This is coming to you (if we're really lucky), from a Vodafone 3G
> modem/donle thing through the IBM Thinkpad R40 via a Netcomm 3GT1
> Portable Router, in fixed LAN Mode. It will be interesting to see if
> this makes it to OS2Genau.
>
> It's taken a bit of a fight to get here, but the secret seems to be to
> set it in LAN mode, to get the modem to do it's thing with the 3G
> Dongle, then to fire the computer up. As I write, this is going back
> to "green" which might mean GPRS strength, or no connection at all.
> Probably doesn't help to live at the foot of the Darling Ranges, in
> Perth, either :-)
>
> Well, here goes. Open the manual and configure the Wireless bit tomorrow.
>
> Regards
>
> NICK
>    
Hi Nick,

Well I got it here in Tweed Heads South OK!
congratulations!

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 21:46:31 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FOUND IT!!

On Fri, 21 May 2010 09:23:02 +1000 Robert Traynor  (BobT) wrote:
>
>Hi John,
>
>As a lapsed SSS subscriber I am entitled to a copy of eCS 2.0 now that it has
>finally come out.  But while this is mentioned on the web page
><http://shop.mensys.nl/cgi-bin/db2www/mns_art2.d2w/report?catname=eComStation#List>
>nowhere is there a web page option to choose and download it.
>
>Am I supposed to sign up again for a SSS subscription.?
>

Sorry, Bob, I never had a SSS before, so I didn't check that aspect.

I did see that previous SSS people would get an email offer, though.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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