Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1950
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 00:01:21 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600

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Tuesday 11 May 2010
 Number  1950
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Scanners [Was:  How to find a NAS address] : madodel <madodel at ptdprolog dot net>
2  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
3  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
4  Re:  Laser printer (was Re:  How to find a NAS address) : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
5  Re:  wireless printer was:[How to find a NAS address] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
6  Re:  Wireless printer was:[How to find a NAS address] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
7  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
8  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
10  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
11  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
12  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
13  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
14  Re:  How to find a NAS address : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>

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Date:  Mon, 10 May 2010 11:12:05 -0400
From:  madodel <madodel at ptdprolog dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Scanners [Was:  How to find a NAS address]

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="madodel">
>> I wish someone would
>> recreate the ease of CopyShop/2, which only worked with the original SCSI
>> HP Scanjet scanners.  Tame/2 is good, but there is nothing as easy as
>> pressing that big green button and getting a printed copy, if that is all
>> you want.
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I have HP2p with ADF that I use fairly regularly.
> I saw another one in a second hand computer shop, also with ADF, it was
> about...$50?, have it for a spare.

I have an HP 5P sitting in a box in my attic.  Alas I no longer have a PC 
with an external SCSI connector, now just several laptops and an Apple Mac 
Mini.  For scanning I'm using an Epson 3200 Photo which works well with 
Tame/2.  The convenience of USB is great.  I also have an HP Scanjet 7490C, 
which is supposed to work with Tame/2, but honestly it is a piece of junk 
compared to the real Scanjets.  I bought it because it had an ADF and it 
was labeled as Scanjet, then I found out HP was just peddling someone 
else's stuff with their badge on it.  And it barely works on the Mac with 
VueScan (software I had to buy since the HP OSX software didn't work at all).

Mark

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 06:42:37 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>
>   
>>>>> Any ideas how to find what IP address it's using (I have the MAC
>>>>> address if that helps)
>>>>>           
>>> arp it ?
>>>       
>
>   
>> arp -a   only displays the systems that have been "talked to" by this
>> system - or do you mean I should use arp in some other way?
>>     
>
> give ip address to the mac address ?
>
>
>   
I have the MAC address, I don't have the IP address.

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 06:46:13 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

<quote who="Ed Durrant">

>>>> arp it ?
>>
>> give ip address to the mac address ?
>>
>>
>>
> I have the MAC address, I don't have the IP address.

arp some IP address to the known mac address

then try connecting to the 'some IP' address

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 06:51:06 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Laser printer (was Re:  How to find a NAS address)

Peter Moylan wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>   
>> Peter Moylan wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Related question: I'm on the lookout for a laser printer (colour
>>> not essential) and I'm attracted to the idea of a wireless printer.
>>> Does anyone have recommendations for a wireless laser printer that
>>> is OS/2 compatible?
>>>
>>>       
>> Well you could take an OS/2 supported Laser printer and plug it into
>> a WPS54G (or other similar unit).
>>     
>
> Thanks for that suggestion; it's a possibility that had not occurred to
> me, and the price of a WPS54G appears to be less than the price
> difference between an ordinary laser printer and a wireless laser
> printer. Googling on WPS54G does bring up some "it doesn't work for me"
> pages, but I guess that I can sort that out with further research.
> Perhaps all of the ones that don't work will turn out to be WinPrinters.
>
>   
The linksys (and D-link & netcomm equivalent devices) are hardware only 
devices - that pass-through the communication - you still need to have a 
working OS/2 driver for the printer. eCUPS now works with USB, parallel 
port and Networked printers, so you could check for laser printers 
supported by eCUPS. From the other side, IBM used to maintain a list of 
"Host Based" printers (another way of saying WinPrinter) under their 
iSeries (AS/400) support pages to avoid you buying a printer that would 
not work when connected via a 5250 emulator - if the printer you are 
looking at is on that list - forget it.

>>> (I originally thought that all laser printers used Postscript, and
>>> would therefore automatically be OS/2 compatible, but someone on
>>> this list once said that that's not necessarily true.)
>>>
>>>       
>> Beware, there are Laser "winprinters", just the same as there are
>> WinPrinter inkjets. For example the Brother HL-2040  is a "normal"
>> parallel and USB port printer that talks PCL protocol (and PS I
>> think, but I use PCL with it), but the very same hardware engine in
>> an identical looking fujitsu printer has no processor in the printer,
>> you have to create the raw data for the printer in the PC - using
>> windows drivers of course.
>>
>>     
> OK, warning taken. It would be nice to have a list somewhere of which
> printers were WinPrinters, but I imagine that there will be some sort of
> compatibility list on the Russian OS/2 site that keeps a lot of
> compatibility information.
>
> By Murphy's Law, the WinPrinters  will probably turn out to be those
> that fall within my budget.
>
>   

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 06:57:21 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  wireless printer was:[How to find a NAS address]

madodel wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> On 2010-05-10 09:44 (AEST), Mark Dodel wrote:
>>> I am using a Brother MFC-9840CDW which is a multiple-function 
>>> wireless color laser printer/fax/copier that works great with the 
>>> postscript driver. Brotherscript is just their own version of 
>>> postscript.
>>> Mark
>>>    
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> That's a nice looking MFP - here they range currently from AU$975 to 
>> almost AU$1300! [US$880-1160 currently]
>
> It is a really nice unit.  I bought it about 2 years ago online for 
> about $550US.  Looking at prices here in the U.S. it appears the price 
> has increased by about $100US which is counter to the way prices 
> usually go, but still no where near what you see in Australia. 
> Actually I'm kind of amazed that that model is still being sold new 
> with the way printer models keep changing.  But there are less 
> expensive Brother Laser printers around that should work just as well 
> as long as they have Brother Script (BR-Script 3) support.  It also 
> does PCL-6 emulation so it works with the HP Laserjet driver as well.
>
> One of the nice features with this printer is that even though the 
> scanner isn't supported under OS/2, the MFC-9840CDW has the ability to 
> email or FTP a scanned image without any computer attached.  It also 
> has duplex printing which works well with the IBM Postscript driver.  
> But mostly I bought it so my family could use it as a stand-alone 
> copier.  I got tired of them asking me to make copies of things.  Even 
> on the Mac it is not an intuitive thing to use the software to just 
> say scan and print.  I wish someone would recreate the ease of 
> CopyShop/2, which only worked with the original SCSI HP Scanjet 
> scanners.  Tame/2 is good, but there is nothing as easy as pressing 
> that big green button and getting a printed copy, if that is all you 
> want.
>
> Mark
>
>
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>
Hi Mark,

  On the scanning point - in my case I have a HP Officejet 6310 - as you 
say simpler to have it do the copying and (rarely) when needed fax of a 
document directly. For scanning I have not set up the e-mail function, 
rather as the MFC also has a built in memory card reader/writer, I 
simply do a scan to memory card on the machine and then can access the 
scanned file over the USB  link as the reader works as a MSD device 
under eCS-OS/2. That wouldn't work via the network link however, only 
via USB - so I have bothe network and USB connections to this MFC.

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 07:07:22 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Wireless printer was:[How to find a NAS address]

Peter Moylan wrote:
> Mark Dodel wrote:
>   
>>> Related question: I'm on the lookout for a laser printer (colour
>>> not essential) and I'm attracted to the idea of a wireless printer.
>>> Does anyone have recommendations for a wireless laser printer that
>>> is OS/2 compatible?
>>>
>>> (I originally thought that all laser printers used Postscript, and
>>> would therefore automatically be OS/2 compatible, but someone on
>>> this list once said that that's not necessarily true.)
>>>       
>> I am using a Brother MFC-9840CDW which is a multiple-function
>> wireless color laser printer/fax/copier that works great with the
>> postscript driver.  Brotherscript is just their own version of
>> postscript.
>>
>>     
> Thanks for the recommendation. This looks to be a nice device. I'm
> surprised to see that Brother has produced a MFC that can be used with
> OS/2. I have a much cheaper Brother MFC printer, which works well with
> Windows but which will probably never have OS/2 drivers; I think it was
> Paul Ratcliffe who told me that CUPS will never support Brother printers
> because Brother won't release information about its proprietary
> protocols to the open-source developers.
>
> It's a bit expensive in Australia. I could live with that, but my
> impression from the on-line information is that it takes a fair bit of
> floor space. At present I have a non-working HP DeskJet on the desk next
> to me, and a working (but not OS/2 compatible) Brother multifunction
> device - without fax capability, because that was destroyed by lightning
> - on the sort of living room furniture that usually supports a TV set.
> In the near future I'm likely to be moving to a smaller house, so I need
> to continue to look at "on the desk" devices. A friend of mine bought a
> very cheap laser printer from Dick Smith and it works very well and sits
> on top of her filing cabinet. (A Canon, I think. In the light of
> comments from other people, though, it's likely that it works only with
> Windows drivers.) That's the sort of thing I'm looking for. Scanner and
> photocopying not essential, because I already have a cheap MFC device to
> do that, even if it works only with Windows. Colour not essential. But
> compactness is essential, and of course OS/2 compatibility is also
> essential.
>
> I'd also like it to be accessible from more than one computer, but Ed
> has pointed out that this can be done with a separate "print server" device.
>
> At present I'm heavily using FTP, with the occasional use of VNC, to
> move documents among my three computers. I suppose I should install
> Samba, but my server machine is difficult to update because it doesn't
> have a monitor or keyboard - they can be temporarily added, but in a
> physically awkward way that would force me to lie on the floor while
> doing software updates. Another one of those projects that will be done
> when I get a round tuit.
>
> I've heard of people setting up "print server" daemons in Windows, to
> give a result that's similar to a network printer. In my case, though,
> my only Windows machine is a laptop that has to be moved to another room
> when printing is desired. In fact that's another reason why I'd like a
> network printer: not only is printing directly from OS/2 impossible with
> my present setup; printing from Windows is also awkward due to the lack
> of a direct connection. I suppose that I could fix that by cleaning up
> my dining room table, now that the Brother MFC has lost its fax
> capability and therefore no longer needs to be near a telephone socket.
>
> The good news: OpenOffice works very well in Windows 7. In both OS/2 and
> Windows Vista it was unpleasantly slow. I have now reached the point
> where if I want to create a .odf document I will fire up the laptop
> rather than create it in OS/2 and then FTP it across for printing. Of
> course I still use OS/2 to download Windows software, and then use the
> home LAN to get it to the laptop. Windows 7 is substantially better than
> Vista, and is even almost as good as XP, but its tcp/ip implementation
> is still a steaming pile of horseshit.
>
>   
If it doesn't "have" to be a laser printer, I am very happy with my HP 
Officejet 6310 all-in-one - I print to it using the HP 7110 driver in 
eCUPS, it can copy and fax independantly of any PC and I scan using the 
process previously described. It's network connected and USB connected, 
I don't know if HP have a wireless networked version, in fact as I've 
now had this a couple of years they may not even make this model any 
more - I think it cost around A$250 when I got it.

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 07:14:18 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>
>   
>>>>> arp it ?
>>>>>           
>>> give ip address to the mac address ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I have the MAC address, I don't have the IP address.
>>     
>
> arp some IP address to the known mac address
>
> then try connecting to the 'some IP' address
>
>
>
>   
And "some IP address" is what ?  This is exactly my problem. I actually 
suspect the network part of the device is broken, but to test it (as it 
doesn't appear at the default address when reset) I will need to set up 
my PC on different subnets, connect the NAS directly or via a cross-over 
cable to my PC and then scan all available addresses - it'd be good if I 
could simply access the device via mac address and be told what IP 
address it has (if any - as I said, as it doesn't come up on the 
standard address after a reset, I now suspect it's actually broken).

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 07:28:05 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>> arp it ?
>>>>>>
>>>> give ip address to the mac address ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I have the MAC address, I don't have the IP address.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> arp some IP address to the known mac address
>>
>> then try connecting to the 'some IP' address
>>
>>
>>
>>
> And "some IP address" is what ?  This is exactly my problem. I actually
> suspect the network part of the device is broken, but to test it (as it
> doesn't appear at the default address when reset) I will need to set up my
> PC on different subnets, connect the NAS directly or via a cross-over
> cable to my PC and then scan all available addresses - it'd be good if I
> could simply access the device via mac address and be told what IP address
> it has (if any - as I said, as it doesn't come up on the standard address
> after a reset, I now suspect it's actually broken).

pick up a free ip address in your subnet, arp it to the device

telnet to the ip address

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 09:03:43 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

Hi Ed,

No experience whatsoever with NAS etc., but (OS/2-eCS doesn't have RARP) 
as you already know the MAC address can't you use ARP to _create_ a 
hostname (even a temp one) for the NAS, by running:

arp -s nas_device <known MAC address> pub
or
arp -s nas_device <known MAC address> temp pub

and thence an I.P. address for it?

Regards,
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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 12:12:54 +1000
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

Hi Ed,

I have not read all of this very long thread, but have you had a look 
at the LATER Ritmo product in case it has some similarity to the config 
in your CL-3520..?

Lan Server Ritmo CE-3590
<ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/>
<ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/HDD ENCLOSURE CE-3590 LAN SERVER/>

Manual here in graphic file format:-
<ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/HDD ENCLOSURE CE-3590 LAN SERVER/CE-3590%20Manual.zip>

HTH,
Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
11 May 2010   12:09

On Sun, 09 May 2010 12:32:50 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> Hi,
>   I recently needed to take the 250GB EIDE PATA disk from my "Lan Server 
> - Ritmo CL3520" unit for use elsewhere. I have now got around to 
> replacing the drive with another 250GB PATA drive and when connected via 
> USB 2.0 - everything works fine.
> 
>   The problem comes when I try to access it via Ethernet - I simply 
> cannot find it (and its web based configuration page) on my LAN. I tried 
> the address I believe it used to be and I have also reset the system and 
> searched for what the default address "should" be from the on-line 
> manual I found. I've tried via X-over direct cable to a Windoze box as 
> well as from eCS.
> 
>   This unit used to work (a couple of years back)  - I even documented 
> this in ecomstation.ru's database!
> 
>   Any ideas how to find what IP address it's using (I have the MAC 
> address if that helps) or if indeed it's working at all on the LAN now?
>   Any Ideas ??
> 
> -- 
> Cheers/2
> Ed

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 14:38:46 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

On 2010-05-11 12:12 (AEST), Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> I have not read all of this very long thread, but have you had a look
> at the LATER Ritmo product in case it has some similarity to the config
> in your CL-3520..?
>
> Lan Server Ritmo CE-3590
> <ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/>
> <ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/HDD ENCLOSURE CE-3590 LAN SERVER/>
>
> Manual here in graphic file format:-
> <ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/HDD ENCLOSURE CE-3590 LAN SERVER/CE-3590%20Manual.zip>
>
> HTH,
> Regards,
> Robert Traynor (BobT).
> 11 May 2010   12:09
>
>
> On Sun, 09 May 2010 12:32:50 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>    
>> Hi,
>>    I recently needed to take the 250GB EIDE PATA disk from my "Lan Server
>> - Ritmo CL3520" unit for use elsewhere. I have now got around to
>> replacing the drive with another 250GB PATA drive and when connected via
>> USB 2.0 - everything works fine.
>>
>>    The problem comes when I try to access it via Ethernet - I simply
>> cannot find it (and its web based configuration page) on my LAN. I tried
>> the address I believe it used to be and I have also reset the system and
>> searched for what the default address "should" be from the on-line
>> manual I found. I've tried via X-over direct cable to a Windoze box as
>> well as from eCS.
>>
>>    This unit used to work (a couple of years back)  - I even documented
>> this in ecomstation.ru's database!
>>
>>    Any ideas how to find what IP address it's using (I have the MAC
>> address if that helps) or if indeed it's working at all on the LAN now?
>>    Any Ideas ??
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers/2
>> Ed
>>      
Hi Bob,
  Been a while since I've seen your name here!
Wow, some FTP link for a company with ftp in their name!

I downloaded the manual - had to go to the general site to do so as the 
direct link came up with a file read error, and the 1MB "manual" (10 
JPGs) was coming in at between 6.1 KB/s and 0.0 KB/s - taking ~35 
minutes for the 1087261 bytes!

I sent it on to Ed.

Regards,
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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 20:26:15 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>   
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>> arp it ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> give ip address to the mac address ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> I have the MAC address, I don't have the IP address.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> arp some IP address to the known mac address
>>>
>>> then try connecting to the 'some IP' address
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> And "some IP address" is what ?  This is exactly my problem. I actually
>> suspect the network part of the device is broken, but to test it (as it
>> doesn't appear at the default address when reset) I will need to set up my
>> PC on different subnets, connect the NAS directly or via a cross-over
>> cable to my PC and then scan all available addresses - it'd be good if I
>> could simply access the device via mac address and be told what IP address
>> it has (if any - as I said, as it doesn't come up on the standard address
>> after a reset, I now suspect it's actually broken).
>>     
>
>
> pick up a free ip address in your subnet, arp it to the device
>
> telnet to the ip address
>
>
>   
Aha! Now I see what you mean - what a GREAT IDEA !
Thanks I'll give it a go !

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 20:29:48 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> No experience whatsoever with NAS etc., but (OS/2-eCS doesn't have 
> RARP) as you already know the MAC address can't you use ARP to 
> _create_ a hostname (even a temp one) for the NAS, by running:
>
> arp -s nas_device <known MAC address> pub
> or
> arp -s nas_device <known MAC address> temp pub
>
> and thence an I.P. address for it?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
Hi Mike - very similar to what Voytek just suggested, I never thought of 
this direction - as MAC addresses are IP subnet independant, this might 
just work !

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Date:  Tue, 11 May 2010 20:40:07 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  How to find a NAS address

Thanks Robert,

I already have that manual and it is a different "animal" to the earlier 
PATA model, which I also have a manual for. I think Ritmo simply import 
and market whatever they think will sell from one or other of the many 
hundreds of manufacturers in China. Some say the Ritmo is a Chinese copy 
of a different make and indeed it can take some firmware upgrades from 
the model it is copied from!

Cheers/2

Ed.

Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> I have not read all of this very long thread, but have you had a look 
> at the LATER Ritmo product in case it has some similarity to the config 
> in your CL-3520..?
>
> Lan Server Ritmo CE-3590
> <ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/>
> <ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/HDD ENCLOSURE CE-3590 LAN SERVER/>
>
> Manual here in graphic file format:-
> <ftp://satotech.serveftp dot com/HDD ENCLOSURE CE-3590 LAN SERVER/CE-3590%20Manual.zip>
>
> HTH,
> Regards,
> Robert Traynor (BobT).
> 11 May 2010   12:09
>
>
> On Sun, 09 May 2010 12:32:50 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>   I recently needed to take the 250GB EIDE PATA disk from my "Lan Server 
>> - Ritmo CL3520" unit for use elsewhere. I have now got around to 
>> replacing the drive with another 250GB PATA drive and when connected via 
>> USB 2.0 - everything works fine.
>>
>>   The problem comes when I try to access it via Ethernet - I simply 
>> cannot find it (and its web based configuration page) on my LAN. I tried 
>> the address I believe it used to be and I have also reset the system and 
>> searched for what the default address "should" be from the on-line 
>> manual I found. I've tried via X-over direct cable to a Windoze box as 
>> well as from eCS.
>>
>>   This unit used to work (a couple of years back)  - I even documented 
>> this in ecomstation.ru's database!
>>
>>   Any ideas how to find what IP address it's using (I have the MAC 
>> address if that helps) or if indeed it's working at all on the LAN now?
>>   Any Ideas ??
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers/2
>> Ed
>>     
>
>
> Grey's Law: "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice".
>
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