Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1935
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:01:29 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 13 March 2010
 Number  1935
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
2  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
3   Test : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
4  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
5  Re:  Test : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Test : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
7   Test : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
8  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
9  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
10  Re:  Test : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
11  Re:  Test : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
12  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : David Shearer <dsh43871 at bigpond dot net dot au>
13  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
14  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
15  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
16  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:05:22 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

David Shearer wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Most of the advertisements I viewed online (for around $40 
>>>> locally+shipping) didn't mention an antenna, although some did - 
>>>> without details - and I was wondering how they were connected to 
>>>> the device?
>>>> Does the USB device have a standard TV antenna coax jack?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>>
>> OK. thanks Ed.
>>
> Hi
>
> Since I posted this entry I have had more success.  I plugged in a 
> rabbit ears antenna and now can get ABC, Seven, Ten and One digital 
> channels.  I will try Nine digital again once I try a different part 
> of my house.
>
> The reception issue seems to have gone away.  Picture and sound 
> quality are perfect and I can record as well.
>
> HD channels do not seem to get a picture. Standard definition work no 
> problems.
>
> The USB stick was still in stock last time I checked at my local 
> Harvey Norman at Everton Park a week ago.  It was still $69.
> Mike - the link you sent me is the correct one it is the model 
> AVL680HD - The box says USB High Definition Digital TV tuner.
>
> I can tune using the Australian TV settings - you can also use German 
> as they are the same.  I think my problem was initially getting a 
> strong enough signal.  When you plugin the usb stick it beeps twice 
> then you open Emperoar.  As I said I am using teh latest drop of 
> Emperorar and the test driver Rudi has added on teh forum.
>
> regards
>
>
> David 
Hi David,

Well that's good to know it's the same model. On HN's website searching 
specifically brings up:

'Your search for "AVL680HD" resulted in no products'. Same result for 
all related searches there and browsing all categories had the same result.

Started reading posts (digital TV tuner related) on the Whirlpool 
Forums, and have decided to put it on the backburner for now.

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:01:59 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

David Shearer wrote:
> I can report that my AV Labs DVB-T stick, bought from Harvey Norman 
> for $69, now works very well with the latest drop of Emperoar 2.05a 
> and the test driver for AF9015 on the message board.
>
> It uses the AF9015 chipset and is a USB 2.0 stick.
>
> TV works (digital) as does the digital radio - ie ABC Jazz radio etc
>
> Reception at my house in Brisbane is not too good - I normally rely on 
> Foxtel for TV - however i managed to get the ABC digital channels up 
> and running. Recording to the hard drive also works well.
>
> Picture quality is perfect. Am using on a Thinkpad T42 with ECS RC6a 
> with APM.
>
> regards
>
> David Shearer
>
>
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I cant see the test driver on the message board but have found under 
download / older versions the file AF15_CT2.zip from 10/03/10 is that 
the file you refer to as it has AF9015.sys and T2.sys in it?

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:28:42 +0945
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
Subject:   Test

Test to see if my messages are making it thru to the list....
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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:00:02 +0945
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

Hiya Mike,

On 13/03/10 00:50, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Well that's good to know it's the same model. On HN's website searching
> specifically brings up:
>
> 'Your search for "AVL680HD" resulted in no products'. Same result for
> all related searches there and browsing all categories had the same result.
>
> Started reading posts (digital TV tuner related) on the Whirlpool
> Forums, and have decided to put it on the backburner for now.

http://www.staticice dot com dot au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=AVL680HD&spos=3

$40 at Umart in Brissie...

Cheers,

Paul
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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:21:47 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Test

<quote who="Paul Smedley">
> Test to see if my messages are making it thru to the list....
> --------------------------------------------------
> 
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they're

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:35:41 +0945
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Test

Hmm made it through but took an hour.......

On 13/03/10 08:28, Paul Smedley wrote:
> Test to see if my messages are making it thru to the list....
> --------------------------------------------------
> 
> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:28:42 +0945
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
Subject:   Test

Test to see if my messages are making it thru to the list....
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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:35:58 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

Ed Durrant wrote:
> David Shearer wrote:
>> I can report that my AV Labs DVB-T stick, bought from Harvey Norman 
>> for $69, now works very well with the latest drop of Emperoar 2.05a 
>> and the test driver for AF9015 on the message board.
>>
>> It uses the AF9015 chipset and is a USB 2.0 stick.
>>
>> TV works (digital) as does the digital radio - ie ABC Jazz radio etc
>>
>> Reception at my house in Brisbane is not too good - I normally rely 
>> on Foxtel for TV - however i managed to get the ABC digital channels 
>> up and running. Recording to the hard drive also works well.
>>
>> Picture quality is perfect. Am using on a Thinkpad T42 with ECS RC6a 
>> with APM.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> David Shearer 
> I cant see the test driver on the message board but have found under 
> download / older versions the file AF15_CT2.zip from 10/03/10 is that 
> the file you refer to as it has AF9015.sys and T2.sys in it?
>
Hi Ed,

There was a link to the file in the thread "Regression test" (at 
http://www.shspvr dot com/smf/index.php?board=48.0)
Size when I downloaded it was 90,062 bytes.

March 10, 2010, 02:17:07 AM, Rudi said:

"Hi folks,

I'd appreciate if users of DVB-T USB - devices (AF9015 based or CInergy T²)
could do a test run with this new driver. 
<http://www.s-t.de/download/AF15_CT2.ZIP>

Especially AF9015.SYS is supposed to switch channels quite a bit faster. The
same applies to T2.SYS, however since this device was already doing this 
pretty
quick, the advantage here is marginal.

But what's most important is to test, if the channel search still finds 
all channels
that were found with the old driver. In theory these drivers try a bit 
harder, so
that in bad reception scenarios they might even find some more channels than
the old ones did...

Please report results here."

Later response to David said:

"AFAIK, you are the first person to use ETV in DVB-T mode in Australia. 
All the
others own analog Hauppauge PVR cards."

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:50:31 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

Paul Smedley wrote:
> Hiya Mike,
>
> On 13/03/10 00:50, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Well that's good to know it's the same model. On HN's website searching
>> specifically brings up:
>>
>> 'Your search for "AVL680HD" resulted in no products'. Same result for
>> all related searches there and browsing all categories had the same 
>> result.
>>
>> Started reading posts (digital TV tuner related) on the Whirlpool
>> Forums, and have decided to put it on the backburner for now.
>
> http://www.staticice dot com dot au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=AVL680HD&spos=3
>
> $40 at Umart in Brissie...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul 
Hi Paul,

Thanks for that link - I knew I could get it for that same price from 
City Software in Melbourne.
Haven't been up to Brisbane for several years now due to double vision 
problem restricting me (by choice) to mainly local driving. :'(
Apparently the "KWorld Plus DVB-T 395" has that same AF9015 chipset, so 
should have the same good results, as that was the model which led Rudi 
to create the create his AF9015.SYS.

Reason for backburner status was that I don't have line-of-sight to TV 
transmitters in either NSW or Qld, and might investigate avenues to 
improve signal strength first.

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:42:26 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Test

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> Hmm made it through but took an hour.......

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:49:55 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Test

Hi Voytek/Paul

>> Hmm made it through but took an hour.......

Caught in ClamAV's holding directory, bounced on by me.

Cheers
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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:15:38 +1000
From:  David Shearer <dsh43871 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

Ed Durrant wrote:
> David Shearer wrote:
>> I can report that my AV Labs DVB-T stick, bought from Harvey Norman 
>> for $69, now works very well with the latest drop of Emperoar 2.05a 
>> and the test driver for AF9015 on the message board.
>>
>> It uses the AF9015 chipset and is a USB 2.0 stick.
>>
>> TV works (digital) as does the digital radio - ie ABC Jazz radio etc
>>
>> Reception at my house in Brisbane is not too good - I normally rely 
>> on Foxtel for TV - however i managed to get the ABC digital channels 
>> up and running. Recording to the hard drive also works well.
>>
>> Picture quality is perfect. Am using on a Thinkpad T42 with ECS RC6a 
>> with APM.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> David Shearer
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>===
>>
> I cant see the test driver on the message board but have found under 
> download / older versions the file AF15_CT2.zip from 10/03/10 is that 
> the file you refer to as it has AF9015.sys and T2.sys in it?
>
yes that is the one
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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:17:25 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> David Shearer wrote:
>>> I can report that my AV Labs DVB-T stick, bought from Harvey Norman 
>>> for $69, now works very well with the latest drop of Emperoar 2.05a 
>>> and the test driver for AF9015 on the message board.
>>>
>>> It uses the AF9015 chipset and is a USB 2.0 stick.
>>>
>>> TV works (digital) as does the digital radio - ie ABC Jazz radio etc
>>>
>>> Reception at my house in Brisbane is not too good - I normally rely 
>>> on Foxtel for TV - however i managed to get the ABC digital channels 
>>> up and running. Recording to the hard drive also works well.
>>>
>>> Picture quality is perfect. Am using on a Thinkpad T42 with ECS RC6a 
>>> with APM.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> David Shearer 
>> I cant see the test driver on the message board but have found under 
>> download / older versions the file AF15_CT2.zip from 10/03/10 is that 
>> the file you refer to as it has AF9015.sys and T2.sys in it?
>>
> Hi Ed,
>
> There was a link to the file in the thread "Regression test" (at 
> http://www.shspvr dot com/smf/index.php?board=48.0)
> Size when I downloaded it was 90,062 bytes.
>
> March 10, 2010, 02:17:07 AM, Rudi said:
>
> "Hi folks,
>
> I'd appreciate if users of DVB-T USB - devices (AF9015 based or 
> CInergy T²)
> could do a test run with this new driver. 
> <http://www.s-t.de/download/AF15_CT2.ZIP>
>
> Especially AF9015.SYS is supposed to switch channels quite a bit 
> faster. The
> same applies to T2.SYS, however since this device was already doing 
> this pretty
> quick, the advantage here is marginal.
>
> But what's most important is to test, if the channel search still 
> finds all channels
> that were found with the old driver. In theory these drivers try a bit 
> harder, so
> that in bad reception scenarios they might even find some more 
> channels than
> the old ones did...
>
> Please report results here."
>
> Later response to David said:
>
> "AFAIK, you are the first person to use ETV in DVB-T mode in 
> Australia. All the
> others own analog Hauppauge PVR cards."
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
OK, sounds like the same file then.

I'm pretty sure my cheapo DVB-T USB dongle is not based on the AF9015 
chip even though the original advert said it was - when I complained, I 
got the usual - just install the driver supplied with the device "it''l 
work" answer.

In any case, it seems Rudi has added several drivers to the software, so 
I'll give it a whirl in any case.

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Ed

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:41:48 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

Ed Durrant wrote:
> OK, sounds like the same file then.
>
> I'm pretty sure my cheapo DVB-T USB dongle is not based on the AF9015 
> chip even though the original advert said it was - when I complained, 
> I got the usual - just install the driver supplied with the device 
> "it''l work" answer.
>
> In any case, it seems Rudi has added several drivers to the software, 
> so I'll give it a whirl in any case.
>
>
Hi Ed,

I ordered one of the AV Labs (AVL680HD) today from Umart in Brisbane - 
should get it next week (they're closed on Sundays).

Can't hurt to try your current one with the new drivers. ;-)

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:09:12 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> OK, sounds like the same file then.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure my cheapo DVB-T USB dongle is not based on the AF9015 
>> chip even though the original advert said it was - when I complained, 
>> I got the usual - just install the driver supplied with the device 
>> "it''l work" answer.
>>
>> In any case, it seems Rudi has added several drivers to the software, 
>> so I'll give it a whirl in any case.
>>
>>
> Hi Ed,
>
> I ordered one of the AV Labs (AVL680HD) today from Umart in Brisbane - 
> should get it next week (they're closed on Sundays).
>
> Can't hurt to try your current one with the new drivers. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
my MinTV DVB-T tuner comes back with no valid device detected, so I 
guess that's that.

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Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:14:59 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Emperoar works with my DVB-T stick

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> OK, sounds like the same file then.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure my cheapo DVB-T USB dongle is not based on the 
>>> AF9015 chip even though the original advert said it was - when I 
>>> complained, I got the usual - just install the driver supplied with 
>>> the device "it''l work" answer.
>>>
>>> In any case, it seems Rudi has added several drivers to the 
>>> software, so I'll give it a whirl in any case.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> I ordered one of the AV Labs (AVL680HD) today from Umart in Brisbane 
>> - should get it next week (they're closed on Sundays).
>>
>> Can't hurt to try your current one with the new drivers. ;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
> my MinTV DVB-T tuner comes back with no valid device detected, so I 
> guess that's that.
>
Hi Ed,

Well at least you tried!

Regards,
Mike

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