Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1995
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 00:01:17 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600

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Tuesday 03 August 2010
 Number  1995
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Google street View working under OS/2 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
2   Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
3  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
4  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
5  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
6  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
7  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
8  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
9  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
10  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
11  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
12  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
13  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
14  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 07:06:46 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Google street View working under OS/2

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>
>   
>> I found this out when I went to take a look at an APRS site
>> (http://aprs.fi) and then clicked on one of the points and selected
>> "track in street view".
>>     
>
> can you track Sydney ferries with this ?
>
>
>
> Voytek
>
>
>   
You can only track boats or vehicles that voluntarily give their 
location to the system. I don't know if the Sydney Ferries do that or not.

Can you see any marked on the map it you navigate to Sydney Harbour.  Of 
course street view isn't going to be available for water born vessels!

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:00:13 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:   Scroll bars on WPS

Hi,

  All of a sudden on my eCS 2.0 RC6a environment, when I boot up, there 
are scroll bars on the RHS and bottom of the screen - nothing is right 
at the edge of the WPS and I have tried moving everything in a little to 
no avail. I've tried changing screen resolution - again no change to the 
situation.

  I think if I go to an archive backup of the WPS, it will be OK, so 
does anyone know what causes this problem?

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:03:31 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  All of a sudden on my eCS 2.0 RC6a environment, when I boot up, there 
> are scroll bars on the RHS and bottom of the screen - nothing is right 
> at the edge of the WPS and I have tried moving everything in a little 
> to no avail. I've tried changing screen resolution - again no change 
> to the situation.
>
>  I think if I go to an archive backup of the WPS, it will be OK, so 
> does anyone know what causes this problem?
>
Hi Ed,

If you have PMview installed, I believe it puts an "invisible" item on 
the desktop for drag'n'drop! ;-)
Did you use the CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to check if there was 
something waaaay off the edges, in addition to page-up and page-down??

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:36:12 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>  All of a sudden on my eCS 2.0 RC6a environment, when I boot up, 
>> there are scroll bars on the RHS and bottom of the screen - nothing 
>> is right at the edge of the WPS and I have tried moving everything in 
>> a little to no avail. I've tried changing screen resolution - again 
>> no change to the situation.
>>
>>  I think if I go to an archive backup of the WPS, it will be OK, so 
>> does anyone know what causes this problem?
>>
> Hi Ed,
>
> If you have PMview installed, I believe it puts an "invisible" item on 
> the desktop for drag'n'drop! ;-)
> Did you use the CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to check if there was 
> something waaaay off the edges, in addition to page-up and page-down??
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
Hi Mike,

   PMView is installed but it has been installed "for ever" - so why did 
it not cause this problem before ?

  I have only scrolled up and across - so I'll reboot back to the 
situation and try CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to see it they find 
anything.

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:41:13 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  All of a sudden on my eCS 2.0 RC6a environment, when I boot up, 
>>> there are scroll bars on the RHS and bottom of the screen - nothing 
>>> is right at the edge of the WPS and I have tried moving everything 
>>> in a little to no avail. I've tried changing screen resolution - 
>>> again no change to the situation.
>>>
>>>  I think if I go to an archive backup of the WPS, it will be OK, so 
>>> does anyone know what causes this problem?
>>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> If you have PMview installed, I believe it puts an "invisible" item 
>> on the desktop for drag'n'drop! ;-)
>> Did you use the CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to check if there 
>> was something waaaay off the edges, in addition to page-up and 
>> page-down??
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
> Hi Mike,
>
>   PMView is installed but it has been installed "for ever" - so why 
> did it not cause this problem before ?
>
>  I have only scrolled up and across - so I'll reboot back to the 
> situation and try CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to see it they find 
> anything.
>
>
>
CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow (and CRTL+up and down arrows) did 
nothing (not even move the scroll bar).

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:55:32 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>>   PMView is installed but it has been installed "for ever" - so why 
>> did it not cause this problem before ?
>>
>>  I have only scrolled up and across - so I'll reboot back to the 
>> situation and try CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to see it they 
>> find anything.
>>
>>
>>
> CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow (and CRTL+up and down arrows) did 
> nothing (not even move the scroll bar).
>
>
Hi Ed,

Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered others 
mentioning having the problem.
I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if anything 
"lost off-screen" shows up?

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:16:28 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>>   PMView is installed but it has been installed "for ever" - so why 
>>> did it not cause this problem before ?
>>>
>>>  I have only scrolled up and across - so I'll reboot back to the 
>>> situation and try CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to see it they 
>>> find anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow (and CRTL+up and down arrows) did 
>> nothing (not even move the scroll bar).
>>
>>
> Hi Ed,
>
> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered others 
> mentioning having the problem.
> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if anything 
> "lost off-screen" shows up?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" the 
preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while on the 
actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture !

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:41:01 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered others 
>> mentioning having the problem.
>> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if 
>> anything "lost off-screen" shows up?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
> Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" the 
> preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while on the 
> actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture !
>
Hi Ed,

I think we're on different pages here - where do you get to see a 
preview? Sounds more like a PMView function than the WPS?

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:49:37 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>> Hi Ed,
>>>
>>> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered others 
>>> mentioning having the problem.
>>> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if 
>>> anything "lost off-screen" shows up?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>> Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" the 
>> preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while on the 
>> actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture !
>>
> Hi Ed,
>
> I think we're on different pages here - where do you get to see a 
> preview? Sounds more like a PMView function than the WPS?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
Desktop Properties - background setting.

Ed.

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:47:17 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>> Hi Ed,
>>>>
>>>> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered 
>>>> others mentioning having the problem.
>>>> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if 
>>>> anything "lost off-screen" shows up?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>> Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" the 
>>> preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while on 
>>> the actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture !
>>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> I think we're on different pages here - where do you get to see a 
>> preview? Sounds more like a PMView function than the WPS?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
> Desktop Properties - background setting.
>
> Ed.
>
Hi Ed,

Obviously you misunderstood what I was referring to!
I was referring to the RMB on running programs in the CTRL-ESC window 
list, where one can select TILE & CASCADE to retrieve items that are off 
the screen video display!

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:03:37 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered 
>>>>> others mentioning having the problem.
>>>>> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if 
>>>>> anything "lost off-screen" shows up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>> Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" 
>>>> the preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while 
>>>> on the actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture !
>>>>
>>> Hi Ed,
>>>
>>> I think we're on different pages here - where do you get to see a 
>>> preview? Sounds more like a PMView function than the WPS?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>> Desktop Properties - background setting.
>>
>> Ed.
>>
> Hi Ed,
>
> Obviously you misunderstood what I was referring to!
> I was referring to the RMB on running programs in the CTRL-ESC window 
> list, where one can select TILE & CASCADE to retrieve items that are 
> off the screen video display!
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
Oh, I see. OK, done that and two possible "culprits" were the command 
window for the CUPS daemon and X-File (they both run "hidden"). I've 
moved these now, so now I'll shutdown and see if that's fixed it.

Restoring a previous archive of the desktop did not fix it, so it could 
well be something that is caused by objects started from the startup 
folder - as are both X-File and eCUPS.

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:15:54 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> Obviously you misunderstood what I was referring to!
>> I was referring to the RMB on running programs in the CTRL-ESC window 
>> list, where one can select TILE & CASCADE to retrieve items that are 
>> off the screen video display!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
> Oh, I see. OK, done that and two possible "culprits" were the command 
> window for the CUPS daemon and X-File (they both run "hidden"). I've 
> moved these now, so now I'll shutdown and see if that's fixed it.
>
> Restoring a previous archive of the desktop did not fix it, so it 
> could well be something that is caused by objects started from the 
> startup folder - as are both X-File and eCUPS.
>
>
>
OK - see you after the reboot.

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>> Hi Ed,
>>>
>>> Obviously you misunderstood what I was referring to!
>>> I was referring to the RMB on running programs in the CTRL-ESC 
>>> window list, where one can select TILE & CASCADE to retrieve items 
>>> that are off the screen video display!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>> Oh, I see. OK, done that and two possible "culprits" were the command 
>> window for the CUPS daemon and X-File (they both run "hidden"). I've 
>> moved these now, so now I'll shutdown and see if that's fixed it.
>>
>> Restoring a previous archive of the desktop did not fix it, so it 
>> could well be something that is caused by objects started from the 
>> startup folder - as are both X-File and eCUPS.
>>
>>
>>
> OK - see you after the reboot.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>
Nope - no change - still the scroll bar.

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Date:  Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:14:04 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Scroll bars on WPS

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Oh, I see. OK, done that and two possible "culprits" were the 
>>> command window for the CUPS daemon and X-File (they both run 
>>> "hidden"). I've moved these now, so now I'll shutdown and see if 
>>> that's fixed it.
>>>
>>> Restoring a previous archive of the desktop did not fix it, so it 
>>> could well be something that is caused by objects started from the 
>>> startup folder - as are both X-File and eCUPS.
>>>
>> OK - see you after the reboot.
>>
> Nope - no change - still the scroll bar.
>
>
Hi Ed,

I'd do a cleanup of the os2*.ini with Unimaint now!

Regards,
Mike

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