Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1822
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:02:34 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600

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Tuesday 23 June 2009
 Number  1822
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  [FYI: Imminent closure of SORBS...] : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
2  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
3  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
4  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
5  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
6   Java, Palm, DateBk and Pimlical : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
7   $12 injet anyone ? : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
8   ot: Mac xperts : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
10  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
11  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
12  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
13  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
14  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
15  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
16  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
17  Re:  USB to Parallel : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
18  Re:  USB to Parallel : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
19  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
20  Re:  USB to Parallel : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
21  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
22  Re:  USB to Parallel : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
23  Re:  USB to Parallel : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
24  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
25  Re:  USB to Parallel : Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
26  Re:  USB to Parallel : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:21:02 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  [FYI: Imminent closure of SORBS...]

I got that on the SORB's lists as well :-(

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:21:05 +1000
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Ian Manners wrote:
> Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see
>
> <http://download.openoffice dot org/index.html>
>
> Now try to get it :-)
>   

I suspect someone has done a copy-and-paste from some earlier 
announcement. Let's remember that OpenOffice was previously known as 
StarOffice - and that's still reflected in some file names - and that 
originally it was available ONLY for OS/2. The Linux and Windows 
versions came well after the OS/2 version.

As it happens, I do have version 3.1 on my computer, but only because 
I've paid for an OO support agreement. At least it still is available, 
even if we have to pay for it.

On the negative side, version 3.1 crashes on some documents that I wrote 
with version 2.4. I suspect that it's because I write documents with 
lots of equations, and the equation editor has always been a weak point 
of OO. It's far superior, in terms of ease of use, to Microsoft's 
equation editor; but it also has a tendency to crash.

I have to say that OO is exceptionally good at producing technically 
complicated HTML documents. See, for example, my article 
http://www.pmoylan dot org/pages/articles/probability/Probability.html

which contains both equations and charts from spreadsheets.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                      http://www.pmoylan dot org

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:54:55 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

> Ian Manners wrote:
>
>> Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see
>>
>>
>> <http://download.openoffice dot org/index.html>

I see a web page ?

>> Now try to get it :-)

get what ?

sorry, what is it that I'm supposed to see/notice and download ? I'm
stumped...

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:41:45 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Hi Voytek,

>>> <http://download.openoffice dot org/index.html>
>I see a web page ?
>>> Now try to get it :-)
>get what ?

Enable javascript in your browser.

>sorry, what is it that I'm supposed to see/notice and download ? I'm
>stumped...

A link to the OS/2 version of OpenOffice v3.1.0

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:53:26 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

<quote who="Ian Manners">
> Hi Voytek,
>
>
>>>> <http://download.openoffice dot org/index.html>
>>>>
>> I see a web page ?
>>
>>>> Now try to get it :-)
>>>>
>> get what ?
>
> Enable javascript in your browser.

it's enabled

>
>
>> sorry, what is it that I'm supposed to see/notice and download ? I'm
>> stumped...
>
> A link to the OS/2 version of OpenOffice v3.1.0

I see this:?

===================
Download OpenOffice dot org

Click to start downloading OpenOffice dot org 3.1.0 for Windows (US English)
(Java runtime, JRE, included for all OS versions except Linux Deb and Mac)

Get more platforms and languages, non-JRE versions, Order CD-ROM or
Peer-to-peer downloads
Get OpenOffice dot org Extensions

Extend your OpenOffice dot org! Choose from a large and growing library of
extensions.
Get Release candidates and Snapshot builds

Please help us test the latest version in development.

Share OpenOffice dot org CD-ROMs with colleagues and friends; burn them yourself!
(We've prepared some CD-ROM images with additional content.)
====================

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:03:11 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:   Java, Palm, DateBk and Pimlical

just a curiosity of no significance:

I use an app called DateBk on my Palm, a very fine calendar app;

the developer of DateBk has created a 'Desktop for Palm' app called
Pimlical, which is essentially a high end PIM that can also be used as a
Desktop for Palm (replacement for Palm provided app)

the new app, Pimlical, is a Java app, as it eventually meant to be a cross
platform app for just about any device.

it requires the latest Java, and, currently only ships for windoze

well, using the various recipes that were posted here, I've got Pimlical
running on my OS/2 desktop, displaying my Palm data

well, kinda running, it throws up some erros on the way up, and, some more
on the way down. but, it does start up

like I said, just a curiosity of no significance

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Voytek

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:05:01 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:   $12 injet anyone ?

___________________
Lexmark Z617 Printer DEAL
We have listed a quantity of Lexmark Z617 Printers for your approval.

NEW Retail Packed
NO Ink Cartridges
Quantity:           5,000 units
Price:        USD$12.50  FOB Asia

All offers will be seriously considered.
___________________

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:08:14 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:   ot: Mac xperts

any Maxperts here ?

how to disable (and, keep disabled) bluetooth on a Mac ?

if I disable it as admin user, normal user can re-enable

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:38:06 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Hi Voytek,

>I see this:?

>===================
>Click to start downloading OpenOffice dot org 3.1.0 for Windows (US English)
>(Java runtime, JRE, included for all OS versions except Linux Deb and Mac)
>====================

ok, your doing it from Windows or you have changed your browser
UA to a windows one :-)

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:47:11 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

<quote who="Ian Manners">

> ok, your doing it from Windows or you have changed your browser UA to a
> windows one :-)

thanks, Ian, got it

so what version is the OS/2 Open Office ?
does it require the win run time thing?

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:15:27 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Hi Voytek,

>so what version is the OS/2 Open Office ?
>does it require the win run time thing?

Only available from Mensys at http://os2.mensys.nl/indexuk.html
if you purchase the agreement for it.

17/01/09   1:05        154           0  checksums.md5
17/01/09   0:30     743150           0  libxml2.dll
16/01/09  15:29      61846           0  OOo310b-base.wpi
17/01/09   1:02   98879575           0  OOo310b-bin.wpi
16/01/09  15:29   78970824           0  OOo310b-common.wpi
16/01/09  16:40    1251388           0  warpin-1-0-18.EXE

I havent installed the 3.1.0 beta yet so only assume that
it requires innowin. Do a search on it as the info should be
in a voice news item somewere.

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:17:02 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Ian Manners wrote:
> Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see
>
> <http://download.openoffice dot org/index.html>
>
> Now try to get it :-)
>
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
> http://www.os2site dot com/
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>  
>  http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG

>   
Interesting - OOo v 3.10 for OS/2 on the first page ! But then it can't 
find it to download it ...

Is this a "spoof" first page ??

-- 
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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:20:49 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Ian Manners wrote:
> Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see
>
> <http://download.openoffice dot org/index.html>
>
> Now try to get it :-)
>
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
> http://www.os2site dot com/
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>  
>  http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG

>   
opening "I want to download OpenOffice dot org" from the normal first page 
http://www.openoffice dot org/ also says download v 3.10 for OS/2 !! as if 
OS/2 (instead of Windows) is now the default - find Linux, BEOS. MAC OSX 
and other versions here .....

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:27:15 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Ian Manners wrote:
>> Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see
>>
>> <http://download.openoffice dot org/index.html>
>>
>> Now try to get it :-)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ian Manners
>> http://www.os2site dot com/
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>
> opening "I want to download OpenOffice dot org" from the normal first page 
> http://www.openoffice dot org/ also says download v 3.10 for OS/2 !! as if 
> OS/2 (instead of Windows) is now the default - find Linux, BEOS. MAC 
> OSX and other versions here .....
>
AHA! - I see what is happening - the website is inquiring against the 
browser that you are running and then puts in the operating system name 
in the text - if I go to this site from a Windoze box it says OOo v 3.10 
for Windows.

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**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:52:49 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Ian Manners wrote:
> Hi Voytek,
>
>   
>> so what version is the OS/2 Open Office ?
>> does it require the win run time thing?
>>     
>
> Only available from Mensys at http://os2.mensys.nl/indexuk.html
> if you purchase the agreement for it.
>
> 17/01/09   1:05        154           0  checksums.md5
> 17/01/09   0:30     743150           0  libxml2.dll
> 16/01/09  15:29      61846           0  OOo310b-base.wpi
> 17/01/09   1:02   98879575           0  OOo310b-bin.wpi
> 16/01/09  15:29   78970824           0  OOo310b-common.wpi
> 16/01/09  16:40    1251388           0  warpin-1-0-18.EXE
>
> I havent installed the 3.1.0 beta yet so only assume that
> it requires innowin. Do a search on it as the info should be
> in a voice news item somewere.
>
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
> http://www.os2site dot com/
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>  
>  http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG

>   
No this is compiled OS/2 code - it doesn't use InnoWin.

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:02:38 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
> opening "I want to download OpenOffice dot org" from the normal first page 
> http://www.openoffice dot org/ also says download v 3.10 for OS/2 !! as if 
> OS/2 (instead of Windows) is now the default - find Linux, BEOS. MAC 
> OSX and other versions here .....
>
Yes, but immediately after you'll get the message:

***
The download you have chosen could not be initiated automatically.
Please visit the download overview 
<http://download.openoffice dot org/other.html>.
****

So, what are we talking about?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:10:12 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  USB to Parallel

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Alan Duval wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port Printer, 
>> what driver would I need?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Duval
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>===
>>
> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have 
> USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable itself 
> is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer look 
> like a USB connected printer.
>
> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the 
> startup folder or startup.cmd
>
> and you should be fine ..... I hope.
Still won't print.
I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 lines 
associated with mouse and keyboard:

DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS
BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
BASEDEV=USBD.SYS
BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1

In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor V1.2 
but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar.
In the properties window of this program are:
Path and File Name:   C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE
Working Directory:   C:\ECS\BOOT

I have added the parameter USBPRT

Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer to 
this port.

What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into?

Regards,

Alan
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**= Email   18 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:34:57 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  USB to Parallel

Alan Duval wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port 
>>> Printer, what driver would I need?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan Duval
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
===
>>>
>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have 
>> USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable itself 
>> is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer look 
>> like a USB connected printer.
>>
>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the 
>> startup folder or startup.cmd
>>
>> and you should be fine ..... I hope.
> Still won't print.
> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 lines 
> associated with mouse and keyboard:
>
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1
>
> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor V1.2 
> but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar.
> In the properties window of this program are:
> Path and File Name:   C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE
> Working Directory:   C:\ECS\BOOT
>
> I have added the parameter USBPRT
>
> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer to 
> this port.
>
> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into?
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
Is the cable a pure hardware device ? What does the documentation with 
it say - if it says to install a windows driver, then it's not a pure 
hardware device and it wont work with anything apart from Windoze.

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**= Email   19 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:36:29 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>> opening "I want to download OpenOffice dot org" from the normal first 
>> page http://www.openoffice dot org/ also says download v 3.10 for OS/2 !! 
>> as if OS/2 (instead of Windows) is now the default - find Linux, 
>> BEOS. MAC OSX and other versions here .....
>>
> Yes, but immediately after you'll get the message:
>
> ***
> The download you have chosen could not be initiated automatically.
> Please visit the download overview 
> <http://download.openoffice dot org/other.html>.
> ****
>
> So, what are we talking about?
>
And it's not in that list!

so what is happening is that the webpage is asking the firefox browser, 
what OS is running and then inserts that in the text on the screen.

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:04:16 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  USB to Parallel

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Alan Duval wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port 
>>>> Printer, what driver would I need?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alan Duval
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>===
>>>>
>>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have 
>>> USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable 
>>> itself is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer 
>>> look like a USB connected printer.
>>>
>>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the 
>>> startup folder or startup.cmd
>>>
>>> and you should be fine ..... I hope.
>> Still won't print.
>> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 
>> lines associated with mouse and keyboard:
>>
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS
>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS
>> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
>> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1
>>
>> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor 
>> V1.2 but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar.
>> In the properties window of this program are:
>> Path and File Name:   C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE
>> Working Directory:   C:\ECS\BOOT
>>
>> I have added the parameter USBPRT
>>
>> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer 
>> to this port.
>>
>> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan
> Is the cable a pure hardware device ? What does the documentation with 
> it say - if it says to install a windows driver, then it's not a pure 
> hardware device and it wont work with anything apart from Windoze.
>
It's a while since I bought it and I don't think it had any 
documentation with it. I'm sure I used it on one of my previous ECS 
installations on an ASUS M3A box and was surprised that it worked. 
However I've shelved that system as I couldn't configure ACPI & SMP on 
it. Just to check, I resurrected that box and did all the above but 
couldn't access the printer so I don't know what else I did that was 
different.

Regards,

Alan
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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:15:45 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Hi,

I've just downloaded Open Office v3.1.0 from the Mensys site and 
installed it. I was disappointed with it, as it's slower to load than 
OOo2.4 and crashes if I try to open *.sdw files from StarOffice 5.1. In 
fact I tend to use StarOffice more than OpenOffice as it's quicker 
loading and does a good job of reading *.doc files. Each new version of 
OOo seems to be getting slower as the version prior to OOo2.4 was quicker.
Lotus Smartsuite is quickest of all but is not good at reading *.doc files.

Regards,

Alan
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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:29:25 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  USB to Parallel

Alan Duval wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port 
>>> Printer, what driver would I need? 
>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have 
>> USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable itself 
>> is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer look 
>> like a USB connected printer.
>>
>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the 
>> startup folder or startup.cmd
>>
>> and you should be fine ..... I hope.
> Still won't print.
> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 lines 
> associated with mouse and keyboard:
>
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1
>
> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor V1.2 
> but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar.
they're program objects Alan, not folders!
> In the properties window of this program are:
> Path and File Name:   C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE
> Working Directory:   C:\ECS\BOOT
>
> I have added the parameter USBPRT
>
> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer to 
> this port.
>
> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into?
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
Hi Alan,

That's the USB M(ass)S(storage)D(Device) monitor you incorrectly added 
the USBPRT parameter to!
That parameter is what goes on a program object referencing 
?:\os2\usbmon.exe

My systems here have two files called usbmon.exe as follows:

OS/2      Ctrl+Esc = Window List       Type HELP = help
Tue 23/06/2009 20:02:47.13 AEST
[512MB RAM J:\Desktop]dir ..\usbmon.exe /s

The volume label in drive J is ECSV20RC4-J.
The Volume Serial Number is 0963:D5C4.

Directory of J:\OS2

25/08/05 11:28         19,477      0 a---  usbmon.exe
        1 file(s)      19,477 bytes used

Directory of J:\OS2\BOOT

10/09/04 15:50         51,233    342 a---  USBMON.EXE
        1 file(s)      51,233 bytes used
Total files listed:
        2 file(s)        70,710 bytes used
                     95,145,984 bytes free

Tue 23/06/2009 20:03:07.42 AEST
[512MB RAM J:\Desktop]

The first of those is the USB printer monitor, the other in os2\boot is 
related to LVM (HDD and MSD), and in fact is superseded by 
?:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE - the one you already have in the Startup Folder.

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:33:48 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  USB to Parallel

Alan Duval wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port 
>>>>> Printer, what driver would I need?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan Duval
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>>===
>>>>>
>>>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to 
>>>> have USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable 
>>>> itself is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your 
>>>> printer look like a USB connected printer.
>>>>
>>>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>>>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the 
>>>> startup folder or startup.cmd
>>>>
>>>> and you should be fine ..... I hope.
>>> Still won't print.
>>> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 
>>> lines associated with mouse and keyboard:
>>>
>>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>>> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS
>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>>> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS
>>> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
>>> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1
>>>
>>> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor 
>>> V1.2 but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar.
>>> In the properties window of this program are:
>>> Path and File Name:   C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE
>>> Working Directory:   C:\ECS\BOOT
>>>
>>> I have added the parameter USBPRT
>>>
>>> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer 
>>> to this port.
>>>
>>> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>> Is the cable a pure hardware device ? What does the documentation 
>> with it say - if it says to install a windows driver, then it's not a 
>> pure hardware device and it wont work with anything apart from Windoze.
>>
> It's a while since I bought it and I don't think it had any 
> documentation with it. I'm sure I used it on one of my previous ECS 
> installations on an ASUS M3A box and was surprised that it worked. 
> However I've shelved that system as I couldn't configure ACPI & SMP on 
> it. Just to check, I resurrected that box and did all the above but 
> couldn't access the printer so I don't know what else I did that was 
> different.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
OK, if it worked before with eCS it must be a pure hardware device, so 
that's good.

When you go into install printer / create printer, is a USB Port shown 
with the name of your printer (or perhaps the printer cable) under it ? 
It'll be blue USB letters across the top, then the plug symbol and then 
something (not just USB) underneath it.

If you don't have this, go to \ecs\system\usbdock and run usbdock - can 
it see the device ? If not you have a physical USB connectivity problem.

If it does see something (it'll give a vendor and model code) - then we 
are a step closer.

USB removable device monitor is the program that pops up the drive X: 
has been attached when you plug in a USB memory key - it is not the 
printer monitor that you need to run.

USBMON should be in either \OS2 or \OS2\BOOT directory, if it's not in 
either of those it suggests to me that because of how you installed this 
system, you did not include usb printing support and you'll need to 
install usb printer support. I'm not sure how you do this under eCS - 
logically it'd be through selective install but given that eCS has it's 
own install procedures, the OS/2 selective install may not work. the 
other option would have been to download the USB Printing package from 
Software Choice, but that's closed, so perhaps from eComstation dot com or 
os2site dot com ?

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:35:29 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Open Office v3.1.0

Alan Duval wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just downloaded Open Office v3.1.0 from the Mensys site and 
> installed it. I was disappointed with it, as it's slower to load than 
> OOo2.4 and crashes if I try to open *.sdw files from StarOffice 5.1. 
> In fact I tend to use StarOffice more than OpenOffice as it's quicker 
> loading and does a good job of reading *.doc files. Each new version 
> of OOo seems to be getting slower as the version prior to OOo2.4 was 
> quicker.
> Lotus Smartsuite is quickest of all but is not good at reading *.doc 
> files.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
> --------------------------------------------------
> 
> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
===
>
I'm pretty sure the OOo/2 v 3.1 is still beta code, so a release version 
might be quicker.

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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:51:06 +1000
From:  "Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
Subject:  Re:  USB to Parallel

Alan,

I have already read Ed's response and I fear he is right.
I have a similar problem.
My OS/2 and XP boxes work off an old switch box with a serial port for the 
mouse. My old ball mouse is giving me the creeps having to clean it all the 
time; so I thought I would get around this with a serial to USB adapter on 
the switch box. When investigating them ( adapters) I found they had only 
windows drivers.
Things no longer work the way serial/ps2 adapters do ...

With regds.,

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Duval" <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
To: <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:10 PM
Subject: Re:  USB to Parallel

> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port Printer, 
>>> what driver would I need?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan Duval
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
===
>>>
>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have USB 
>> Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable itself is a 
>> pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer look like a USB 
>> connected printer.
>>
>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the startup 
>> folder or startup.cmd
>>
>> and you should be fine ..... I hope.
> Still won't print.
> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 lines 
> associated with mouse and keyboard:
>
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1
>
> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor V1.2 but 
> no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar.
> In the properties window of this program are:
> Path and File Name:   C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE
> Working Directory:   C:\ECS\BOOT
>
> I have added the parameter USBPRT
>
> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer to 
> this port.
>
> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into?
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
> --------------------------------------------------
> 
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Date:  Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:27:35 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  USB to Parallel

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Alan Duval wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port 
>>>>>> Printer, what driver would I need?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan Duval
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>>>===
>>>>>>
>>>>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to 
>>>>> have USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the 
>>>>> cable itself is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your 
>>>>> printer look like a USB connected printer.
>>>>>
>>>>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>>>>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the 
>>>>> startup folder or startup.cmd
>>>>>
>>>>> and you should be fine ..... I hope.
>>>> Still won't print.
>>>> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 
>>>> lines associated with mouse and keyboard:
>>>>
>>>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS
>>>> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS
>>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS
>>>> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS
>>>> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS
>>>> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1
>>>>
>>>> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor 
>>>> V1.2 but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar.
>>>> In the properties window of this program are:
>>>> Path and File Name:   C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE
>>>> Working Directory:   C:\ECS\BOOT
>>>>
>>>> I have added the parameter USBPRT
>>>>
>>>> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer 
>>>> to this port.
>>>>
>>>> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>> Is the cable a pure hardware device ? What does the documentation 
>>> with it say - if it says to install a windows driver, then it's not 
>>> a pure hardware device and it wont work with anything apart from 
>>> Windoze.
>>>
>> It's a while since I bought it and I don't think it had any 
>> documentation with it. I'm sure I used it on one of my previous ECS 
>> installations on an ASUS M3A box and was surprised that it worked. 
>> However I've shelved that system as I couldn't configure ACPI & SMP 
>> on it. Just to check, I resurrected that box and did all the above 
>> but couldn't access the printer so I don't know what else I did that 
>> was different.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan
>>
> OK, if it worked before with eCS it must be a pure hardware device, so 
> that's good.
>
> When you go into install printer / create printer, is a USB Port shown 
> with the name of your printer (or perhaps the printer cable) under it 
> ? It'll be blue USB letters across the top, then the plug symbol and 
> then something (not just USB) underneath it.
>
It has blue USB letters across the top, then the plug symbol and 
underneath is the words  Prolific_IEEE_1284_Cont_1
> If you don't have this, go to \ecs\system\usbdock and run usbdock - 
> can it see the device ? If not you have a physical USB connectivity 
> problem.
>
> If it does see something (it'll give a vendor and model code) - then 
> we are a step closer.
>
> USB removable device monitor is the program that pops up the drive X: 
> has been attached when you plug in a USB memory key - it is not the 
> printer monitor that you need to run.

I did a search and no USBMON was found.
When I plug in a USB memory key the program pops up to show the drive 
attached so I presume the Event Monitor assumes this function.

> USBMON should be in either \OS2 or \OS2\BOOT directory, if it's not in 
> either of those it suggests to me that because of how you installed 
> this system, you did not include usb printing support and you'll need 
> to install usb printer support. I'm not sure how you do this under eCS 
> - logically it'd be through selective install but given that eCS has 
> it's own install procedures, the OS/2 selective install may not work. 
> the other option would have been to download the USB Printing package 
> from Software Choice, but that's closed, so perhaps from 
> eComstation dot com or os2site dot com ?
>
>
>
>
>

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