Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1780
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Thursday 12 February 2009
 Number  1780
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Subjects for today
 
1   Motherboards : Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
2  Re:  Motherboards : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
3   ot: pmlm for windoze ? : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
4  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ? : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
5  Re:  Motherboards : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
6  Re:  Motherboards : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
7  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ? : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
8  Re:  Motherboards : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
9  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ? : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
10  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ? : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
11  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ? : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>

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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:08:53 +1100
From:  "Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
Subject:   Motherboards

Dear All,

I am in the market for a new OS/2 compatible motherboard and graphics card after the M2V-TVM badly overheated.

All suggestions gratefully received.

Peter R
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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:05:02 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Motherboards

Peter Rehfisch wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I am in the market for a new OS/2 compatible motherboard and graphics card after the M2V-TVM badly overheated.
>
> All suggestions gratefully received.
>
> Peter R
> --------------------------------------------------
>  
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>
>   
Are you looking to re-use components from the M2V-TVM or while you say 
it has overheated are we assuming that processor, memory etc. is not 
re-usable?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:31:55 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:   ot: pmlm for windoze ?

is there something like Ray Gwinn's PMLM for windoze ?

I'm trying to see what does my Motorola phone gets to established data
link up

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:40:59 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ?

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> is there something like Ray Gwinn's PMLM for windoze ?
>
> I'm trying to see what does my Motorola phone gets to established data
> link up
>
>   
Hi Voytek,

Just looking on a non-booted W2K volume here (from eCS), I used a couple 
of serial port monitors, along with my Blazer UPS, which only comes with 
Windoze/Linux software (Java). One was Serial Port Monitor from Eltima 
Software, the other was Serial Monitor 2.0 from HHD Software, don't have 
any URLs for either - lookup in Google!

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:59:34 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Motherboards

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Peter Rehfisch wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am in the market for a new OS/2 compatible motherboard and graphics 
>> card after the M2V-TVM badly overheated.
>>
>> All suggestions gratefully received.
>>
>> Peter R
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>  
>>  http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG
>===
>>
>>   
> Are you looking to re-use components from the M2V-TVM or while you say 
> it has overheated are we assuming that processor, memory etc. is not 
> re-usable?
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
> -
If you want to re-use components you could look at this board:

http://www.shoppingsquare dot com dot au/p_3526__ASUS_M2NMXSEPLUS

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:43:04 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Motherboards

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Peter Rehfisch wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I am in the market for a new OS/2 compatible motherboard and 
>>> graphics card after the M2V-TVM badly overheated.
>>>
>>> All suggestions gratefully received. 
>> Are you looking to re-use components from the M2V-TVM or while you 
>> say it has overheated are we assuming that processor, memory etc. is 
>> not re-usable?
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
>> -
> If you want to re-use components you could look at this board:
>
> http://www.shoppingsquare dot com dot au/p_3526__ASUS_M2NMXSEPLUS
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
Hi Ed, Peter,

That's the board that I discarded as it was incompatible with eCS, 
unless replacing all the onboard features (LAN/NIC/VIDEO) with PCI-cards 
- it's back in its original box, in the cupboard!

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:45:28 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ?

<quote who="Mike O'Connor">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:

> Just looking on a non-booted W2K volume here (from eCS),

Mike,

glad to see it's non-booted...

>  I used a couple
> of serial port monitors, along with my Blazer UPS, which only comes with
> Windoze/Linux software (Java). One was Serial Port Monitor from Eltima
> Software, the other was Serial Monitor 2.0 from HHD Software, don't have
> any URLs for either - lookup in Google!

great, thks !!!

the first one I tried told me 'port already open', as if it's not meant to
be, but, the second one, bingo:

that's what Moto does on windoze:

AT+CGDCONT=3,"IP","telstra.internet",,0,0
OK
AT+CGQREQ=3,0,0,0,0,0
OK
AT+CGQMIN=3,0,0,0,0,0
OK
ATE0
..OK
ATS7=60
..OK
ATS0=0
..OK
ATE0
..OK
ATS7=60
..OK
ATD*99***3#

but, I'm none the wiser:

Palm connects, as soon as connects, phone says 'GPRS data connection'

BUT, I saw the '3' icon flicker back and forth to 'h' few times.

I'm almost on the verge of throwing it in, and, calling Palm for 'elp

(not that it matters that much, I'll be still constrained by 1.1 bluetooth)

anyhow, much obliged for the software pointers
-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:47:42 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Motherboards

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Peter Rehfisch wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I am in the market for a new OS/2 compatible motherboard and 
>>>> graphics card after the M2V-TVM badly overheated.
>>>>
>>>> All suggestions gratefully received. 
>>> Are you looking to re-use components from the M2V-TVM or while you 
>>> say it has overheated are we assuming that processor, memory etc. is 
>>> not re-usable?
>>>
>>> Cheers/2
>>>
>>> Ed.
>>> -
>> If you want to re-use components you could look at this board:
>>
>> http://www.shoppingsquare dot com dot au/p_3526__ASUS_M2NMXSEPLUS
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> Hi Ed, Peter,
>
> That's the board that I discarded as it was incompatible with eCS, 
> unless replacing all the onboard features (LAN/NIC/VIDEO) with 
> PCI-cards - it's back in its original box, in the cupboard!
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
Should have read LAN/AUDIO/VIDEO!

Mike

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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:51:11 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ?

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Mike O'Connor">
>> Just looking on a non-booted W2K volume here (from eCS),
>>     
> Mike,
>
> glad to see it's non-booted...
>   
0.1% per annum usage! :-)
>>  I used a couple
>> of serial port monitors, along with my Blazer UPS, which only comes with
>> Windoze/Linux software (Java). One was Serial Port Monitor from Eltima
>> Software, the other was Serial Monitor 2.0 from HHD Software, don't have
>> any URLs for either - lookup in Google!
>>     
>
> great, thks !!!
>
> the first one I tried told me 'port already open', as if it's not meant to
> be, but, the second one, bingo:
>
> that's what Moto does on windoze:
>
> AT+CGDCONT=3,"IP","telstra.internet",,0,0
> OK
> AT+CGQREQ=3,0,0,0,0,0
> OK
> AT+CGQMIN=3,0,0,0,0,0
> OK
> ATE0
> .OK
> ATS7=60
> .OK
> ATS0=0
> .OK
> ATE0
> .OK
> ATS7=60
> .OK
> ATD*99***3#
>
>
> but, I'm none the wiser:
>
> Palm connects, as soon as connects, phone says 'GPRS data connection'
>
> BUT, I saw the '3' icon flicker back and forth to 'h' few times.
>
> I'm almost on the verge of throwing it in, and, calling Palm for 'elp
>
>
> (not that it matters that much, I'll be still constrained by 1.1 bluetooth)
>
> anyhow, much obliged for the software pointers
>   
Hi Voytek,

You're very welcome.

Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:20:21 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ?

<quote who="Mike O'Connor">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:

I think I might have solved parts of this:

it seems if I use blue tooth to hook up to the phone, the GPRS message
comes, same happens on windoze

I still don't know why I seldom get 'h' (nextg) icon, but, get '3' only, I
might take the phone to a Tel;stra place to compare

-- 
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Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:56:36 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  ot: pmlm for windoze ?

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> I think I might have solved parts of this:
>
> it seems if I use blue tooth to hook up to the phone, the GPRS message
> comes, same happens on windoze
>
> I still don't know why I seldom get 'h' (nextg) icon, but, get '3' only, I
> might take the phone to a Tel;stra place to compare
Hi Voytek,

OPTUS's YesG (7.2mbps) shows up here as "3G". Using Telstra's 3G service 
with my Motorola RAZR V3x best I can get from Telstra is 2G (CDMA!), 
when I can get a signal! From some locations, after NextG was 
introduced, it used to say "Call FAILED", as soon as I it dialled a 
stored local number and reached "0755" - my prefix here - even for my 
home landline 2 km from where I was calling from!

I'm just waiting for OPTUS to introduce their capped plan for Wireless 
Broadband and Mobile (like the current OPTUS Fusion plan), which should 
be available in the near future, at which time - having already 
experienced the 7.2 mbps on an EeePC 1000H, using a 
USB-KEY-wireless-modem, and been delighted with the performance here 
compared to my 8mbps service on ADSL TwoPlus from Internode (throttled 
to 3 mbps by Telstra RIM), I'll give up the landline (Telstra), and the 
Telstra Mobile, and Internode, with the combined total accounts on OPTUS 
being significantly less than the individual items!

Regards,
Mike

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