Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1736
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Saturday 01 November 2008
 Number  1736
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
2  Re:  Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
4  Re:  Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
5  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
6  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
7  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
8  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
9  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
10  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
11  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
12  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
13  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
14  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
15  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
16  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
17  Re:  Connecting to NextG : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:01:55 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet

Wayne wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Fri, 31 Oct   
> 2008 08:08:43 +1100 
>   
>>    
>> Wayne wrote: 
>>     
>>> Hi all  
>>>   
>>> I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to the net   
>>>       
> via    
>   
>>> Three using Injoy v3.  It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage.  Could   
>>>       
> this    
>   
>>> be due to ethernet?  Any suggestions welcome.  
>>>   
>>>       
>  
> <snip> 
>  
>   
>>> Cheers  
>>> Wayne 
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>       
>> Hi Wayne, 
>>    
>> we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with  
>> "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from a    
>>     
> few 
>   
>> years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed  
>> and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung  
>> SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to 
>> Next-G. 
>>    
>> You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the  
>> config string details please ? 
>>    
>> On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from Injoy  
>> (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set  
>> against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to  send 
>> all this info direct rather than on-list. 
>>    
>> In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article: 
>>    
>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html 
>>    
>>    
>> Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To 
>>     
>  
> Hi Ed 
>  
> I will send the Sony trace privately.  Connecting the Samsung (ME) we can   
> do via this list so that others can benefit. 
>  
> Yes I used your excellent article as a basis & I had lots of teething troubles   
> but the final settings were vastly different & now NextG is rock solid. 
> 1st thing to do is see if any CIDs are already set in the ME.  My Samsung   
> had none set, the Sony had 2 CIDs set.  To see what is set, use a terminal   
> program (eg. Zoc) & enter AT+CGDCONT? & let me know what the output is. 
> Here is a copy from mine:- 
> at+cgdcont? 
>  
> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP","telstra.internet","",0,0 
> +CGDCONT: 2,"IP","3netaccess","",0,0 
>  
> OK 
>  
> I put CID2 in whilst experimenting & I can change it but not delete it. 
>  
> CAVEAT:-  Entering indiscriminate AT commands can do nasty things. 
> It is quite safe if it ends in ? or =?.  This just queries a setting or a range of   
> settings. 
>  
> Cheers 
> Wayne
>
>

>  

>
>   
Hi Wayne,

  Thanks for this - yes it could indeed be the APN - I set that directly 
on the LG U8330 before it would work as a modem.

By the way for everyone - here a list of most Australian 3G telco's APNs 
- thanks to the supplied by Telstra client software:

Telstra Next-G  -  telstra.internet
"3" 3G - 3netaccess
Optus 3G - internet
Vodaphone 3G - vfinternet.au

at the moment I'm having difficulties getting ANY response using ZOC, 
I've downloaded a couple of alternative terminal programs to try them - 
TE2 you exits when I start it, ZIP totally hangs the system - even c-a-d 
doesn't work - it's a power off job ! and now I have Intercom (from 
Adeptsoft) which appears to run but I'm still not getting a response.

I'll try again with Injoy and put the AT+CGDCONT? string as a modem 
initialisation string with trace turned on and see what I get as a 
response (if any).

Cheers/2

Ed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:05:23 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Wayne wrote:
>
>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Fri, 31 Oct
>>  2008 08:08:43 +1100
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to
>>>> the net
>>>>
>> via
>>
>>>> Three using Injoy v3.  It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage.
>>>> Could
>>>>
>>>>
>> this
>>
>>>> be due to ethernet?  Any suggestions welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>
>>>
>>> we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with
>>> "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from
>>> a
>>>
>> few
>>
>>> years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed
>>> and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung
>>> SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to
>>> Next-G.
>>>
>>>
>>> You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the
>>> config string details please ?
>>>
>>> On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from
>>> Injoy
>>> (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set
>>> against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to
>>> send all this info direct rather than on-list.
>>>
>>> In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers/2 Ed.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------- To
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>>
>> I will send the Sony trace privately.  Connecting the Samsung (ME) we
>> can do via this list so that others can benefit.
>>
>> Yes I used your excellent article as a basis & I had lots of teething
>> troubles but the final settings were vastly different & now NextG is
>> rock solid. 1st thing to do is see if any CIDs are already set in the
>> ME.  My Samsung
>> had none set, the Sony had 2 CIDs set.  To see what is set, use a
>> terminal program (eg. Zoc) & enter AT+CGDCONT? & let me know what the
>> output is. Here is a copy from mine:-
>> at+cgdcont?
>>
>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP","telstra.internet","",0,0
>> +CGDCONT: 2,"IP","3netaccess","",0,0
>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>>
>> I put CID2 in whilst experimenting & I can change it but not delete it..
>>
>>
>> CAVEAT:-  Entering indiscriminate AT commands can do nasty things.
>> It is quite safe if it ends in ? or =?.  This just queries a setting or
>> a range of settings.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>> 
>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Wayne,
>
>
> Thanks for this - yes it could indeed be the APN - I set that directly
> on the LG U8330 before it would work as a modem.
>
> By the way for everyone - here a list of most Australian 3G telco's APNs
> - thanks to the supplied by Telstra client software:
>
>
> Telstra Next-G  -  telstra.internet
> "3" 3G - 3netaccess
> Optus 3G - internet
> Vodaphone 3G - vfinternet.au
>
>
> at the moment I'm having difficulties getting ANY response using ZOC, I've
> downloaded a couple of alternative terminal programs to try them - TE2 you
> exits when I start it, ZIP totally hangs the system - even c-a-d doesn't
> work - it's a power off job ! and now I have Intercom (from Adeptsoft)
> which appears to run but I'm still not getting a response.
>
> I'll try again with Injoy and put the AT+CGDCONT? string as a modem
> initialisation string with trace turned on and see what I get as a response
> (if any).
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
>
> Ed.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 

>
>

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Wayne wrote:
>
>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Fri, 31 Oct
>>  2008 08:08:43 +1100
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to
>>>> the net
>>>>
>> via
>>
>>>> Three using Injoy v3.  It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage.
>>>> Could
>>>>
>>>>
>> this
>>
>>>> be due to ethernet?  Any suggestions welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>
>>>
>>> we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with
>>> "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from
>>> a
>>>
>> few
>>
>>> years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed
>>> and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung
>>> SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to
>>> Next-G.
>>>
>>>
>>> You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the
>>> config string details please ?
>>>
>>> On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from
>>> Injoy
>>> (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set
>>> against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to
>>> send all this info direct rather than on-list.
>>>
>>> In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers/2 Ed.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------- To
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>>
>> I will send the Sony trace privately.  Connecting the Samsung (ME) we
>> can do via this list so that others can benefit.
>>
>> Yes I used your excellent article as a basis & I had lots of teething
>> troubles but the final settings were vastly different & now NextG is
>> rock solid. 1st thing to do is see if any CIDs are already set in the
>> ME.  My Samsung
>> had none set, the Sony had 2 CIDs set.  To see what is set, use a
>> terminal program (eg. Zoc) & enter AT+CGDCONT? & let me know what the
>> output is. Here is a copy from mine:-
>> at+cgdcont?
>>
>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP","telstra.internet","",0,0
>> +CGDCONT: 2,"IP","3netaccess","",0,0
>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>>
>> I put CID2 in whilst experimenting & I can change it but not delete it..
>>
>>
>> CAVEAT:-  Entering indiscriminate AT commands can do nasty things.
>> It is quite safe if it ends in ? or =?.  This just queries a setting or
>> a range of settings.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>> 
>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Wayne,
>
>
> Thanks for this - yes it could indeed be the APN - I set that directly
> on the LG U8330 before it would work as a modem.
>
> By the way for everyone - here a list of most Australian 3G telco's APNs
> - thanks to the supplied by Telstra client software:
>
>
> Telstra Next-G  -  telstra.internet
> "3" 3G - 3netaccess
> Optus 3G - internet
> Vodaphone 3G - vfinternet.au
>
>
> at the moment I'm having difficulties getting ANY response using ZOC, I've
> downloaded a couple of alternative terminal programs to try them - TE2 you
> exits when I start it, ZIP totally hangs the system - even c-a-d doesn't
> work - it's a power off job ! and now I have Intercom (from Adeptsoft)
> which appears to run but I'm still not getting a response.
>
> I'll try again with Injoy and put the AT+CGDCONT? string as a modem
> initialisation string with trace turned on and see what I get as a response
> (if any).
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
>
> Ed.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 

>
>

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Wayne wrote:
>
>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Fri, 31 Oct
>>  2008 08:08:43 +1100
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to
>>>> the net
>>>>
>> via
>>
>>>> Three using Injoy v3.  It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage.
>>>> Could
>>>>
>>>>
>> this
>>
>>>> be due to ethernet?  Any suggestions welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>
>>>
>>> we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with
>>> "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from
>>> a
>>>
>> few
>>
>>> years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed
>>> and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung
>>> SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to
>>> Next-G.
>>>
>>>
>>> You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the
>>> config string details please ?
>>>
>>> On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from
>>> Injoy
>>> (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set
>>> against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to
>>> send all this info direct rather than on-list.
>>>
>>> In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers/2 Ed.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------- To
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>>
>> I will send the Sony trace privately.  Connecting the Samsung (ME) we
>> can do via this list so that others can benefit.
>>
>> Yes I used your excellent article as a basis & I had lots of teething
>> troubles but the final settings were vastly different & now NextG is
>> rock solid. 1st thing to do is see if any CIDs are already set in the
>> ME.  My Samsung
>> had none set, the Sony had 2 CIDs set.  To see what is set, use a
>> terminal program (eg. Zoc) & enter AT+CGDCONT? & let me know what the
>> output is. Here is a copy from mine:-
>> at+cgdcont?
>>
>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP","telstra.internet","",0,0
>> +CGDCONT: 2,"IP","3netaccess","",0,0
>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>>
>> I put CID2 in whilst experimenting & I can change it but not delete it..
>>
>>
>> CAVEAT:-  Entering indiscriminate AT commands can do nasty things.
>> It is quite safe if it ends in ? or =?.  This just queries a setting or
>> a range of settings.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>> 
>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Wayne,
>
>
> Thanks for this - yes it could indeed be the APN - I set that directly
> on the LG U8330 before it would work as a modem.
>
> By the way for everyone - here a list of most Australian 3G telco's APNs
> - thanks to the supplied by Telstra client software:
>
>
> Telstra Next-G  -  telstra.internet
> "3" 3G - 3netaccess
> Optus 3G - internet
> Vodaphone 3G - vfinternet.au
>
>
> at the moment I'm having difficulties getting ANY response using ZOC, I've
> downloaded a couple of alternative terminal programs to try them - TE2 you
> exits when I start it, ZIP totally hangs the system - even c-a-d doesn't
> work - it's a power off job ! and now I have Intercom (from Adeptsoft)
> which appears to run but I'm still not getting a response.
>
> I'll try again with Injoy and put the AT+CGDCONT? string as a modem
> initialisation string with trace turned on and see what I get as a response
> (if any).
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
>
> Ed.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 

>
>

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Wayne wrote:
>
>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Fri, 31 Oct
>>  2008 08:08:43 +1100
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to
>>>> the net
>>>>
>> via
>>
>>>> Three using Injoy v3.  It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage.
>>>> Could
>>>>
>>>>
>> this
>>
>>>> be due to ethernet?  Any suggestions welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>
>>>
>>> we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with
>>> "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from
>>> a
>>>
>> few
>>
>>> years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed
>>> and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung
>>> SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to
>>> Next-G.
>>>
>>>
>>> You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the
>>> config string details please ?
>>>
>>> On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from
>>> Injoy
>>> (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set
>>> against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to
>>> send all this info direct rather than on-list.
>>>
>>> In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers/2 Ed.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------- To
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>>
>> I will send the Sony trace privately.  Connecting the Samsung (ME) we
>> can do via this list so that others can benefit.
>>
>> Yes I used your excellent article as a basis & I had lots of teething
>> troubles but the final settings were vastly different & now NextG is
>> rock solid. 1st thing to do is see if any CIDs are already set in the
>> ME.  My Samsung
>> had none set, the Sony had 2 CIDs set.  To see what is set, use a
>> terminal program (eg. Zoc) & enter AT+CGDCONT? & let me know what the
>> output is. Here is a copy from mine:-
>> at+cgdcont?
>>
>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP","telstra.internet","",0,0
>> +CGDCONT: 2,"IP","3netaccess","",0,0
>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>>
>> I put CID2 in whilst experimenting & I can change it but not delete it..
>>
>>
>> CAVEAT:-  Entering indiscriminate AT commands can do nasty things.
>> It is quite safe if it ends in ? or =?.  This just queries a setting or
>> a range of settings.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>> 
>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Wayne,
>
>
> Thanks for this - yes it could indeed be the APN - I set that directly
> on the LG U8330 before it would work as a modem.
>
> By the way for everyone - here a list of most Australian 3G telco's APNs
> - thanks to the supplied by Telstra client software:
>
>
> Telstra Next-G  -  telstra.internet
> "3" 3G - 3netaccess
> Optus 3G - internet
> Vodaphone 3G - vfinternet.au
>
>
> at the moment I'm having difficulties getting ANY response using ZOC, I've
> downloaded a couple of alternative terminal programs to try them - TE2 you
> exits when I start it, ZIP totally hangs the system - even c-a-d doesn't
> work - it's a power off job ! and now I have Intercom (from Adeptsoft)
> which appears to run but I'm still not getting a response.
>
> I'll try again with Injoy and put the AT+CGDCONT? string as a modem
> initialisation string with trace turned on and see what I get as a response
> (if any).
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
>
> Ed.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Wayne wrote:
>
>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Fri, 31 Oct
>>  2008 08:08:43 +1100
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to
>>>> the net
>>>>
>> via
>>
>>>> Three using Injoy v3.  It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage.
>>>> Could
>>>>
>>>>
>> this
>>
>>>> be due to ethernet?  Any suggestions welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>
>>>
>>> we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with
>>> "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from
>>> a
>>>
>> few
>>
>>> years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed
>>> and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung
>>> SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to
>>> Next-G.
>>>
>>>
>>> You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the
>>> config string details please ?
>>>
>>> On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from
>>> Injoy
>>> (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set
>>> against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to
>>> send all this info direct rather than on-list.
>>>
>>> In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers/2 Ed.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------- To
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>>
>> I will send the Sony trace privately.  Connecting the Samsung (ME) we
>> can do via this list so that others can benefit.
>>
>> Yes I used your excellent article as a basis & I had lots of teething
>> troubles but the final settings were vastly different & now NextG is
>> rock solid. 1st thing to do is see if any CIDs are already set in the
>> ME.  My Samsung
>> had none set, the Sony had 2 CIDs set.  To see what is set, use a
>> terminal program (eg. Zoc) & enter AT+CGDCONT? & let me know what the
>> output is. Here is a copy from mine:-
>> at+cgdcont?
>>
>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP","telstra.internet","",0,0
>> +CGDCONT: 2,"IP","3netaccess","",0,0
>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>>
>> I put CID2 in whilst experimenting & I can change it but not delete it..
>>
>>
>> CAVEAT:-  Entering indiscriminate AT commands can do nasty things.
>> It is quite safe if it ends in ? or =?.  This just queries a setting or
>> a range of settings.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>> 
>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Wayne,
>
>
> Thanks for this - yes it could indeed be the APN - I set that directly
> on the LG U8330 before it would work as a modem.
>
> By the way for everyone - here a list of most Australian 3G telco's APNs
> - thanks to the supplied by Telstra client software:
>
>
> Telstra Next-G  -  telstra.internet
> "3" 3G - 3netaccess
> Optus 3G - internet
> Vodaphone 3G - vfinternet.au
>
>
> at the moment I'm having difficulties getting ANY response using ZOC, I've
> downloaded a couple of alternative terminal programs to try them - TE2 you
> exits when I start it, ZIP totally hangs the system - even c-a-d doesn't
> work - it's a power off job ! and now I have Intercom (from Adeptsoft)
> which appears to run but I'm still not getting a response.
>
> I'll try again with Injoy and put the AT+CGDCONT? string as a modem
> initialisation string with trace turned on and see what I get as a response
> (if any).
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
>
> Ed.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 

>
>
<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Wayne wrote:
>
>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Fri, 31 Oct
>>  2008 08:08:43 +1100
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to
>>>> the net
>>>>
>> via
>>
>>>> Three using Injoy v3.  It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage.
>>>> Could
>>>>
>>>>
>> this
>>
>>>> be due to ethernet?  Any suggestions welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>
>>>
>>> we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with
>>> "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from
>>> a
>>>
>> few
>>
>>> years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed
>>> and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung
>>> SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to
>>> Next-G.
>>>
>>>
>>> You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the
>>> config string details please ?
>>>
>>> On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from
>>> Injoy
>>> (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set
>>> against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to
>>> send all this info direct rather than on-list.
>>>
>>> In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers/2 Ed.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------- To
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ed
>>
>>
>> I will send the Sony trace privately.  Connecting the Samsung (ME) we
>> can do via this list so that others can benefit.
>>
>> Yes I used your excellent article as a basis & I had lots of teething
>> troubles but the final settings were vastly different & now NextG is
>> rock solid. 1st thing to do is see if any CIDs are already set in the
>> ME.  My Samsung
>> had none set, the Sony had 2 CIDs set.  To see what is set, use a
>> terminal program (eg. Zoc) & enter AT+CGDCONT? & let me know what the
>> output is. Here is a copy from mine:-
>> at+cgdcont?
>>
>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP","telstra.internet","",0,0
>> +CGDCONT: 2,"IP","3netaccess","",0,0
>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>>
>> I put CID2 in whilst experimenting & I can change it but not delete it..
>>
>>
>> CAVEAT:-  Entering indiscriminate AT commands can do nasty things.
>> It is quite safe if it ends in ? or =?.  This just queries a setting or
>> a range of settings.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>> 
>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Wayne,
>
>
> Thanks for this - yes it could indeed be the APN - I set that directly
> on the LG U8330 before it would work as a modem.
>
> By the way for everyone - here a list of most Australian 3G telco's APNs
> - thanks to the supplied by Telstra client software:
>
>
> Telstra Next-G  -  telstra.internet
> "3" 3G - 3netaccess
> Optus 3G - internet
> Vodaphone 3G - vfinternet.au
>
>
> at the moment I'm having difficulties getting ANY response using ZOC, I've
> downloaded a couple of alternative terminal programs to try them - TE2 you
> exits when I start it, ZIP totally hangs the system - even c-a-d doesn't
> work - it's a power off job ! and now I have Intercom (from Adeptsoft)
> which appears to run but I'm still not getting a response.
>
> I'll try again with Injoy and put the AT+CGDCONT? string as a modem
> initialisation string with trace turned on and see what I get as a response
> (if any).
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
>
> Ed.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 

>
>

any success ?

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:30:03 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet

Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>     
>
> any success ?
>
>
>
> Hi Viytek - only really starting to look at it this weekend - I'll let the list know my findings  - by the way, if you look at your e-mail on the list, prior to this one, how come the e-mail trail appeared 4 times over in your response ? Is this a problem on the list or possibly your e-mail client Voytek ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:30:13 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet

Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>     
>
> any success ?
>
>
>
> Hi Voytek - only really starting to look at it this weekend - I'll let the list know my findings  - by the way, if you look at your e-mail on the list, prior to this one, how come the e-mail trail appeared 4 times over in your response ? Is this a problem on the list or possibly your e-mail client Voytek ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:47:05 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

Ed Durrant wrote:

Well I think you've found the problem !

AT+CGDCONT?

produces:

+CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," ","",0,0

So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is that the +CGDCONT 
command as well ?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:09:12 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov    
2008 09:47:05 +1100  
>     
> Ed Durrant wrote:  
>     
> Well I think you've found the problem !  
>     
> AT+CGDCONT?  
>     
> produces:  
>     
> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," ","",0,0  
>     
> So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is that the +CGDCONT   
> command as well ?  
>     
> Cheers/2  
>     
> Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To  
> Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to http://www.os2site.com/list/  

I forgot to ask b4, on the A411, how have you been setting the APN?  There    
is no way to set it on the A501. 
 
I am currently writing full instructions that I will send shortly. 
 
Cheers 
Wayne

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:36:53 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

Wayne wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov    
> 2008 09:47:05 +1100  
>   
>>     
>> Ed Durrant wrote:  
>>     
>> Well I think you've found the problem !  
>>     
>> AT+CGDCONT?  
>>     
>> produces:  
>>     
>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," ","",0,0  
>>     
>> So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is that the +CGDCONT   
>> command as well ?  
>>     
>> Cheers/2  
>>     
>> Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To  
>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to http://www.os2site.com/list/  
>  
>>     
>   
> I forgot to ask b4, on the A411, how have you been setting the APN?  There    
> is no way to set it on the A501. 
>  
> I am currently writing full instructions that I will send shortly. 
>  
> Cheers 
> Wayne
>
>
>   
I haven't been setting the APN - hence the reason it displays as a space 
in the response to the inquiry above, and hence the reason I was asking 
how it can be set through an AT command - if I can't find anything on 
the web, I'll dissect the Windoze driver (inf file) as I expect it must 
be doing this setting to be able to communicate (and this works from 
windoze of course).

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 1 Nov 2008 09:10:53 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
2008 09:47:05 +1100 
>    
> Ed Durrant wrote: 
>    
> Well I think you've found the problem ! 
>    
> AT+CGDCONT? 
>    
> produces: 
>    
> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," ","",0,0 
>    
> So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is that the +CGDCONT  
> command as well ? 
>    
> Cheers/2 
>    
> Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To 
 
Once a CID has been set, it stays in the modem permanently.    
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP"."telstra.internet",,0,0 (case sensitive).  This can be   
entered via a terminal prog or added to the init string in Injoy. 
 
Injoy settings:- 
Host setup page:- leave userID & password blank. Protocol:- PPP. 
PPP setup page:- Your IP address:- blank, Dest IP address:- 2.0.0.0 
                                     Netmask:- 0.0.0.0, Nameserver address:- 0.0.0.0 
                                     Backup nameserver:- 0.0.0.0, Domain name:- blank 
Communication Setup page:- Port speed:- 115200, Phone number:- *99***1# 
PPP options page:- Allow PAP Authentication:- ON 
                                        Allow CHAP Authentication:- ON 
                                       all others OFF 
 
Save it. 
 
Once connected, record the primary & secondary DNS, You may need it   
later.  Further explanations later, I should have done a full writeup previously   
but I am sure you are keen to get testing. 
 
Cheers 
Wayne

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:00:41 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

Wayne wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
> 2008 09:47:05 +1100 
>   
>>    
>> Ed Durrant wrote: 
>>    
>> Well I think you've found the problem ! 
>>    
>> AT+CGDCONT? 
>>    
>> produces: 
>>    
>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," ","",0,0 
>>    
>> So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is that the +CGDCONT  
>> command as well ? 
>>    
>> Cheers/2 
>>    
>> Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To 
>>     
>  
> Once a CID has been set, it stays in the modem permanently.    
> AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP"."telstra.internet",,0,0 (case sensitive).  This can be   
> entered via a terminal prog or added to the init string in Injoy. 
>  
> Injoy settings:- 
> Host setup page:- leave userID & password blank. Protocol:- PPP. 
> PPP setup page:- Your IP address:- blank, Dest IP address:- 2.0.0.0 
>                                      Netmask:- 0.0.0.0, Nameserver address:- 0.0.0.0 
>                                      Backup nameserver:- 0.0.0.0, Domain name:- blank 
> Communication Setup page:- Port speed:- 115200, Phone number:- *99***1# 
> PPP options page:- Allow PAP Authentication:- ON 
>                                         Allow CHAP Authentication:- ON 
>                                        all others OFF 
>  
> Save it. 
>  
> Once connected, record the primary & secondary DNS, You may need it   
> later.  Further explanations later, I should have done a full writeup previously   
> but I am sure you are keen to get testing. 
>  
> Cheers 
> Wayne
>
>

>  

>
>   
Ok, tried just the setting of the APN to start with - corrected to dot 
to a comma and then ran again and got:

 11:51:12 RX: IPCP PACKET INCLUDING IPCP-HEADER
 11:51:12 RX: CONFIG_ACK
 11:51:12 *** IPCP LAYER OPENED SUCCESSFULLY ***
 11:51:12 0.0.0.0 not allowed as IP address - Disconnect

I'm guessing that's why you put 2.0.0.0 as destination IP address - 
normally 0.0.0.0 indicates supply by host but it seems not in this case 
- one more try ....

Yes!  SUCCESS - Working !!  I don't have exactly the same settings as 
you in some of the comm setup (I have 38.4K) and the phone number I use 
(from the Windoze client) has another #1 in it, but similar enough.

OK, so now we need to get your Sony phone working !!

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:12:15 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
2008 12:00:41 +1100 
>    
> Wayne wrote: 
> > ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01   
Nov    
> > 2008 09:47:05 +1100  
> >    
> >>     
> >> Ed Durrant wrote:  
> >>     
> >> Well I think you've found the problem !  
> >>     
> >> AT+CGDCONT?  
> >>     
> >> produces:  
> >>     
> >> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," ","",0,0  
> >>     
> >> So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is that the +CGDCONT   
> >> command as well ?  
> >>     
> >> Cheers/2  
> >>     
> >> Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To  
> >>      
> >   
> > Once a CID has been set, it stays in the modem permanently.     
> > AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP"."telstra.internet",,0,0 (case sensitive).  This can be    
> > entered via a terminal prog or added to the init string in Injoy.  
> >   
> > Injoy settings:-  
> > Host setup page:- leave userID & password blank. Protocol:- PPP.  
> > PPP setup page:- Your IP address:- blank, Dest IP address:- 2.0.0.0  
> >                                      Netmask:- 0.0.0.0, Nameserver address:- 0.0.0.0  
> >                                      Backup nameserver:- 0.0.0.0, Domain name:- blank  
> > Communication Setup page:- Port speed:- 115200, Phone number:-   
*99***1#  
> > PPP options page:- Allow PAP Authentication:- ON  
> >                                         Allow CHAP Authentication:- ON  
> >                                        all others OFF  
> >   
> > Save it.  
> >   
> > Once connected, record the primary & secondary DNS, You may need it    
> > later.  Further explanations later, I should have done a full writeup   
previously    
> > but I am sure you are keen to get testing.  
> >   
> > Cheers  
> > Wayne 
> > 
> > 
> >    
> Ok, tried just the setting of the APN to start with - corrected to dot  to a 
> comma and then ran again and got: 
>    
> 11:51:12 RX: IPCP PACKET INCLUDING IPCP-HEADER 11:51:12 RX: 
> CONFIG_ACK 11:51:12 *** IPCP LAYER OPENED SUCCESSFULLY *** 
> 11:51:12 0.0.0.0 not allowed as IP address - Disconnect 
>    
> I'm guessing that's why you put 2.0.0.0 as destination IP address -  
> normally 0.0.0.0 indicates supply by host but it seems not in this case  - 
> one more try .... 
 
Any number seems to work as long as it is NOT 0.0.0.0 
 
>    
> Yes! SUCCESS - Working !! I don't have exactly the same settings as  you 
> in some of the comm setup (I have 38.4K) and the phone number I use  
> (from the Windoze client) has another #1 in it, but similar enough. 
>    
 
Max port speed on A501 is 230400.  If I set injoy higher, it works but seems to   
slow downloads.  Download speeds are not restricted to what is set here.    
To see what range A411 has, enter AT+IPR=?.  I still have not found a   
Samsung AT command reference on the net. 
 
Did you record DNS addresses? 
Did you test downloading something? 

> OK, so now we need to get your Sony phone working !! 
 
As soon as we are sure yours is up fully. 

>    
> Cheers/2 
>    
> Ed. 
>    

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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:12:12 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
2008 11:36:53 +1100 
>    
> Wayne wrote: 
> > ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01   
Nov     
> > 2008 09:47:05 +1100   
> >    
> >>      
> >> Ed Durrant wrote:   
> >>      
> >> Well I think you've found the problem !   
> >>      
> >> AT+CGDCONT?   
> >>      
> >> produces:   
> >>      
> >> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," ","",0,0   
> >>      
> >> So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is that the +CGDCONT    
> >> command as well ?   
> >>      
> >> Cheers/2   
> >>      
> >> Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To   
> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to http://www.os2site.com/list/   
> >   
> >>      
> >    
> > I forgot to ask b4, on the A411, how have you been setting the APN?    
There     
> > is no way to set it on the A501.  
> >   
> > I am currently writing full instructions that I will send shortly.  
> >   
> > Cheers  
> > Wayne 
> > 
> > 
> >    
> I haven't been setting the APN - hence the reason it displays as a space  
> in the response to the inquiry above, and hence the reason I was asking  
> how it can be set through an AT command - if I can't find anything on  the 
> web, I'll dissect the Windoze driver (inf file) as I expect it must  be doing 
> this setting to be able to communicate (and this works from  windoze of 
> course). 
>    
> Cheers/2 
>    
> Ed. 
>    
 
Actually, the doze setup is different. 
 
Cheers 
Wayne

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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:12:16 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

Wayne wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
> 2008 12:00:41 +1100 
>   
>>    
>> Wayne wrote: 
>>     
>>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01   
>>>       
> Nov    
>   
>>> 2008 09:47:05 +1100  
>>>    
>>>       
>>>>     
>>>> Ed Durrant wrote:  
>>>>     
>>>> Well I think you've found the problem !  
>>>>     
>>>> AT+CGDCONT?  
>>>>     
>>>> produces:  
>>>>     
>>>> +CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," ","",0,0  
>>>>     
>>>> So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is that the +CGDCONT   
>>>> command as well ?  
>>>>     
>>>> Cheers/2  
>>>>     
>>>> Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To  
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>   
>>> Once a CID has been set, it stays in the modem permanently.     
>>> AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP"."telstra.internet",,0,0 (case sensitive).  This can be    
>>> entered via a terminal prog or added to the init string in Injoy.  
>>>   
>>> Injoy settings:-  
>>> Host setup page:- leave userID & password blank. Protocol:- PPP.  
>>> PPP setup page:- Your IP address:- blank, Dest IP address:- 2.0.0.0  
>>>                                      Netmask:- 0.0.0.0, Nameserver address:- 0.0.0.0  
>>>                                      Backup nameserver:- 0.0.0.0, Domain name:- blank  
>>> Communication Setup page:- Port speed:- 115200, Phone number:-   
>>>       
> *99***1#  
>   
>>> PPP options page:- Allow PAP Authentication:- ON  
>>>                                         Allow CHAP Authentication:- ON  
>>>                                        all others OFF  
>>>   
>>> Save it.  
>>>   
>>> Once connected, record the primary & secondary DNS, You may need it    
>>> later.  Further explanations later, I should have done a full writeup   
>>>       
> previously    
>   
>>> but I am sure you are keen to get testing.  
>>>   
>>> Cheers  
>>> Wayne 
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>       
>> Ok, tried just the setting of the APN to start with - corrected to dot  to a 
>> comma and then ran again and got: 
>>    
>> 11:51:12 RX: IPCP PACKET INCLUDING IPCP-HEADER 11:51:12 RX: 
>> CONFIG_ACK 11:51:12 *** IPCP LAYER OPENED SUCCESSFULLY *** 
>> 11:51:12 0.0.0.0 not allowed as IP address - Disconnect 
>>    
>> I'm guessing that's why you put 2.0.0.0 as destination IP address -  
>> normally 0.0.0.0 indicates supply by host but it seems not in this case  - 
>> one more try .... 
>>     
>  
> Any number seems to work as long as it is NOT 0.0.0.0 
>  
>   
>>    
>> Yes! SUCCESS - Working !! I don't have exactly the same settings as  you 
>> in some of the comm setup (I have 38.4K) and the phone number I use  
>> (from the Windoze client) has another #1 in it, but similar enough. 
>>    
>>     
>  
> Max port speed on A501 is 230400.  If I set injoy higher, it works but seems to   
> slow downloads.  Download speeds are not restricted to what is set here.    
> To see what range A411 has, enter AT+IPR=?.  I still have not found a   
> Samsung AT command reference on the net. 
>  
> Did you record DNS addresses? 
> Did you test downloading something? 
>  
>  
>   
>> OK, so now we need to get your Sony phone working !! 
>>     
>  
> As soon as we are sure yours is up fully. 
>  
>  
>   
>>    
>> Cheers/2 
>>    
>> Ed. 
>>    
>>     
>  
>
>

>  

>
>   

I disconnected the ethernet connection from the system and added in the 
speed request
response to AT+IPR=?
was
+IPR: (),(300,600,1200,2400,4800,9600,19200,38400,57600,115200,230400)
So it looks as if 230400 is the maximum on the Samsung A411 as well.

DNS addresses shown were 10.11.12.13 and 10.11.12.14 and an allocated IP 
address of 10.236.212.157

I was unable to connect to any websites so, as I think you were 
expecting, the DNS setup is most likely not so good - I will find and 
code in the standard Telstra DNS addresses and see how they go.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:01:07 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Wayne wrote:
>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 
>> Nov   2008 12:00:41 +1100  
>>>    Wayne wrote:    
>>>> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 
>>>> 01         
>> Nov     
>>>> 2008 09:47:05 +1100          
>>>>>     Ed Durrant wrote:      Well I think you've found the problem 
>>>>> !      AT+CGDCONT?      produces:      +CGDCONT: 1,"IP"," 
>>>>> ","",0,0      So it looks like it's not set - how do I set it is 
>>>>> that the +CGDCONT   command as well ?      Cheers/2      Ed. 
>> 
>>>>> To               
>>>>   Once a CID has been set, it stays in the modem permanently.     
>>>> AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP"."telstra.internet",,0,0 (case sensitive).  This 
>>>> can be    entered via a terminal prog or added to the init string 
>>>> in Injoy.    Injoy settings:-  Host setup page:- leave userID & 
>>>> password blank. Protocol:- PPP.  PPP setup page:- Your IP address:- 
>>>> blank, Dest IP address:- 2.0.0.0  
>>>>                                      Netmask:- 0.0.0.0, Nameserver 
>>>> address:- 0.0.0.0                                       Backup 
>>>> nameserver:- 0.0.0.0, Domain name:- blank  Communication Setup 
>>>> page:- Port speed:- 115200, Phone number:-         
>> *99***1#   
>>>> PPP options page:- Allow PAP Authentication:- ON  
>>>>                                         Allow CHAP Authentication:- 
>>>> ON                                         all others OFF    Save 
>>>> it.    Once connected, record the primary & secondary DNS, You may 
>>>> need it    later.  Further explanations later, I should have done a 
>>>> full writeup         
>> previously     
>>>> but I am sure you are keen to get testing.    Cheers  Wayne
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Ok, tried just the setting of the APN to start with - corrected to 
>>> dot  to a comma and then ran again and got:    11:51:12 RX: IPCP 
>>> PACKET INCLUDING IPCP-HEADER 11:51:12 RX: CONFIG_ACK 11:51:12 *** 
>>> IPCP LAYER OPENED SUCCESSFULLY *** 11:51:12 0.0.0.0 not allowed as 
>>> IP address - Disconnect    I'm guessing that's why you put 2.0.0.0 
>>> as destination IP address -  normally 0.0.0.0 indicates supply by 
>>> host but it seems not in this case  - one more try ....     
>>  
>> Any number seems to work as long as it is NOT 0.0.0.0  
>>  
>>>    Yes! SUCCESS - Working !! I don't have exactly the same settings 
>>> as  you in some of the comm setup (I have 38.4K) and the phone 
>>> number I use  (from the Windoze client) has another #1 in it, but 
>>> similar enough.        
>>  
>> Max port speed on A501 is 230400.  If I set injoy higher, it works 
>> but seems to   slow downloads.  Download speeds are not restricted to 
>> what is set here.    To see what range A411 has, enter AT+IPR=?.  I 
>> still have not found a   Samsung AT command reference on the net.  
>> Did you record DNS addresses? Did you test downloading something?  
>>  
>>  
>>> OK, so now we need to get your Sony phone working !!     
>>  
>> As soon as we are sure yours is up fully.  
>>  
>>  
>>>    Cheers/2    Ed.        
>>  
>>
>>
> 
>>
>>  
>
>>
>>   
>
> I disconnected the ethernet connection from the system and added in 
> the speed request
> response to AT+IPR=?
> was
> +IPR: (),(300,600,1200,2400,4800,9600,19200,38400,57600,115200,230400)
> So it looks as if 230400 is the maximum on the Samsung A411 as well.
>
>
> DNS addresses shown were 10.11.12.13 and 10.11.12.14 and an allocated 
> IP address of 10.236.212.157
>
> I was unable to connect to any websites so, as I think you were 
> expecting, the DNS setup is most likely not so good - I will find and 
> code in the standard Telstra DNS addresses and see how they go.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
>
OK I tried using the Telstra ADSL DNS addresses - no difference, then I 
went through and rechecked all parameters, no difference, tried some 
possible changes - still no difference.

What is interesting is that I can ping one IP address down from my 
allocated address so I guess that's someone else on the Next_G network - 
so I am connected to their network - but it looks to me as if the 
default route once one has entered the Next-G network is incorrect as I 
can't ping the Telstra ADSL DNS servers (using their IP addresses) and I 
would have expected to be able to do so.

Why do you set the destination IP address to 2.0.0.0  ?

 Cheers/2

Ed.

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Date:  Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:05:21 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
2008 17:01:07 +1100 
> OK I tried using the Telstra ADSL DNS addresses - no difference, then I 
> went through and rechecked all parameters, no difference, tried some 
> possible changes - still no difference.  
>  
> What is interesting is that I can ping one IP address down from my 
> allocated address so I guess that's someone else on the Next_G network 
> - so I am connected to their network - but it looks to me as if the default route 
 
Yes, you are connected to their INTRAnet, your ip address (as seen by   
others) is not tthe same as what injoy reports.  There are sites you can   
access free that will look at that number & tell you what the external number   
is. 
 
> once one has entered the Next-G network is incorrect as I can't ping the 
> Telstra ADSL DNS servers (using their IP addresses) and I would have 
> expected to be able to do so.  
>  
> Why do you set the destination IP address to 2.0.0.0 ?  
> 
 
>> Any number seems to work as long as it is NOT 0.0.0.0   
  
>  Cheers/2  
>  
> Ed.  
>  

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Date:  Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:05:19 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
2008 16:12:16 +1100 
 
> I disconnected the ethernet connection from the system and added in the 
> speed request response to AT+IPR=? was +IPR: 
> (),(300,600,1200,2400,4800,9600,19200,38400,57600,115200,230400) So it 
> looks as if 230400 is the maximum on the Samsung A411 as well.  
 
So you can set the port speed to 230400. 
 
>  
> DNS addresses shown were 10.11.12.13 and 10.11.12.14 and an allocated 
> IP address of 10.236.212.157  
>  
> I was unable to connect to any websites so, as I think you were expecting, 
> the DNS setup is most likely not so good - I will find and code in the 
> standard Telstra DNS addresses and see how they go.  
>  
> Cheers/2  
>  
> Ed.  

I was hoping  that Telstra had fixed this bug so I wasn't going to say anything   
but here goes.  For weeks it was hit & miss if I could do anything after   
connecting.  Eventually I  saw the differences in DNS numbers so I recorded   
the good numbers & put them into injoy settings.  After that it never let me   
down.  Here are the numbers I use.  203.50.2.71 & 139.130.4.4 
 
Cheers 
Wayne

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Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:06:01 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

Wayne wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
> 2008 17:01:07 +1100 
>   
>> OK I tried using the Telstra ADSL DNS addresses - no difference, then I 
>> went through and rechecked all parameters, no difference, tried some 
>> possible changes - still no difference.  
>>  
>> What is interesting is that I can ping one IP address down from my 
>> allocated address so I guess that's someone else on the Next_G network 
>> - so I am connected to their network - but it looks to me as if the default route 
>>     
>  
> Yes, you are connected to their INTRAnet, your ip address (as seen by   
> others) is not tthe same as what injoy reports.  There are sites you can   
> access free that will look at that number & tell you what the external number   
> is. 
>  
>   
>> once one has entered the Next-G network is incorrect as I can't ping the 
>> Telstra ADSL DNS servers (using their IP addresses) and I would have 
>> expected to be able to do so.  
>>  
>> Why do you set the destination IP address to 2.0.0.0 ?  
>>
>>     
>  
>   
>>> Any number seems to work as long as it is NOT 0.0.0.0   
>>>       
>   
>   
>>  Cheers/2  
>>  
>> Ed.  
>>  
>>     
>  
>
>
>   

Having looked at the (operational) WinXP config, I found that what Injoy 
thought were DNS servers are in fact the WINS servers and I now have the 
correct DNS addresses installed.

That "destination IP" address is taken as the default gateway and having 
2.0.0.0 (it doesn't get changed) when connected into a 10.x.x.x network 
doesn't seem logical to me. Injoy states that that field should be set 
to 0.0.0.0 to pick up the allocated address from the Host - which seems 
reasonable, however then when connecting, it complains that that field 
is set to 0.0.0.0 which is an invalid IP address - rather strange - I 
don't have this issue when connecting to the "3" network via the LG 
phone, so something is different in the Telstra Next-G network setup.

On the winXP config the default gateway gets set to the same IP address 
as is allocated to the PC and the submet mask range is one IP address - 
i.e. 255.255.255.255.

IFConfig PPP0 displays the allocated IP address OK, so I am indeed 
connected to the Next-G Intranet. I wonder if the Windows client sets a 
proxy or socks address somewhere ? But then your configuration with your 
phone wouldn't work either.

any chance of send me screenshots of your Injoy config including the 
popup screen that comes when you are connected, off-list please ?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   17 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:07:58 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Connecting to NextG

Wayne wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu> Sat, 01 Nov   
> 2008 16:12:16 +1100 
>  
>   
>> I disconnected the ethernet connection from the system and added in the 
>> speed request response to AT+IPR=? was +IPR: 
>> (),(300,600,1200,2400,4800,9600,19200,38400,57600,115200,230400) So it 
>> looks as if 230400 is the maximum on the Samsung A411 as well.  
>>     
>  
> So you can set the port speed to 230400. 
>  
>   
>>  
>> DNS addresses shown were 10.11.12.13 and 10.11.12.14 and an allocated 
>> IP address of 10.236.212.157  
>>  
>> I was unable to connect to any websites so, as I think you were expecting, 
>> the DNS setup is most likely not so good - I will find and code in the 
>> standard Telstra DNS addresses and see how they go.  
>>  
>> Cheers/2  
>>  
>> Ed.  
>>     
>  
>  
> I was hoping  that Telstra had fixed this bug so I wasn't going to say anything   
> but here goes.  For weeks it was hit & miss if I could do anything after   
> connecting.  Eventually I  saw the differences in DNS numbers so I recorded   
> the good numbers & put them into injoy settings.  After that it never let me   
> down.  Here are the numbers I use.  203.50.2.71 & 139.130.4.4 
>  
> Cheers 
> Wayne
>
>
> Those are the same addresses that I set from the Windows config - still can't any further than the Next-G intranet though - see my other note. I suspect the problem is the default route address.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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