Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1725
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:01:12 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 11 October 2008
 Number  1725
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  FIREFOX FILE ASSOCIATIONS : Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
2   Bootmanage XP : Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
3  Re:  FIREFOX FILE ASSOCIATIONS : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
4  Re:  Bootmanage XP : Nicholas Lysaght" <nicholasrf at gmail dot com>
5  Re:  How to use FM/2 to show directory sizes sorted : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
6  Re:  Bootmanage XP : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
7   OOo240 : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
8  Re:  Bootmanage XP : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
9  Re:  How to use FM/2 to show directory sizes sorted : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
10  Re:  OOo240 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>

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Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:27:40 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FIREFOX FILE ASSOCIATIONS

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:15:27 +0800, Nicholas Lysaght wrote:

>Hi All.
>
>Have *finally* got around to updating Firefox to 2.0.0.17, but have found
>that I am not able to setup File Associations.
>
>Went to Tool > Options > File Types...Manage and opened the window to find
>that everything is greyed out. So, for instance, I can't use Warp Vision to
>view videos, or PM123 to listen to various sound formats.
>
>Amazingly, when I was using Firefox 1.8x, I could actually listen to ABC
>720AM here in Perth....strangely enough, through Warp Vision,  but she no
>works now :-) I bet there's something I missed. Any ideas, please?
>
>Regards
>
>NICK

On PM-Fx 2.0.016 here, prg has associations set for MP3, WAV, XLS, ZIP.
Have no idea how this has come about or how to add any new ones.
How to make *.htm files default to FF globally?
Assoedit informs me Firefox is not a program when trying setup!

			Regards,
					allenpl

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Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:34:14 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
Subject:   Bootmanage XP

Clean disk - dfsee a partition - install XP - install boot manager from dfsee - add xp to 
BM in dfsee - dfsee shows BM as active and XP as bootable.
Will not work - what am I missing ( Yeah right, apart from that),

			Regards,
					allenpl

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Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:07:03 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  FIREFOX FILE ASSOCIATIONS

On 11/10/08 12:27, Peter L Allen wrote:
>  On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:15:27 +0800, Nicholas Lysaght wrote:

> > Have *finally* got around to updating Firefox to 2.0.0.17, but have
> > found that I am not able to setup File Associations.
> >
> > Went to Tool > Options > File Types...Manage and opened the window
> > to find that everything is greyed out. So, for instance, I can't
> > use Warp Vision to view videos, or PM123 to listen to various sound
> > formats.
> >
> > Amazingly, when I was using Firefox 1.8x, I could actually listen
> > to ABC 720AM here in Perth....strangely enough, through Warp
> > Vision,  but she no works now :-) I bet there's something I missed.
> > Any ideas, please?

In my experience, this has been a bug in the majority of OS/2 Firefox 
releases. I'm still running version 2.0.0.4, and my own "Download 
Actions" box is completely empty, despite the fact that Z!, for example, 
is correctly invoked when I get an MP3 file. (But now, thinking about 
it, it might be the MediaPlayer Connectivity addon that's doing that. 
That's an addon that I might well decide to remove, because most of the 
time it opens up a Flash window that then does nothing.)

(One reason why I don't often update Firefox is that each successive 
release turns out to be an even bigger memory hog than the previous 
version, and once the swap file has blown out to an enormous size the 
whole system slows to a crawl. There are rumours that Firefox 3 on 
Windows is impossibly slow for people who have less than 1 GB of main 
memory. That's not good news for those of us who are still working with 
128MB.)

This is partly a design flaw in Firefox. Unlike Netscape, it doesn't let 
you manually add any entries to the "Download Actions". All you can do 
is change existing entries.

But it's more than that, because a lot of the time you can't even change 
the existing entries. I suspect that there's some sort of configuration 
option (Firefox has hundreds of them, and it's nearly impossible to 
understand what most of them do) that is getting lost in the OS/2 ports.

>  On PM-Fx 2.0.016 here, prg has associations set for MP3, WAV, XLS,
>  ZIP. Have no idea how this has come about or how to add any new ones.

The way it comes about is that, when Firefox meets a new file type, it 
asks you which program should handle it, and you have the option to 
check a box saying "always do this for this file type". That, as far as 
I know, is the only way to add new entries.

>  How to make *.htm files default to FF globally? Assoedit informs me
>  Firefox is not a program when trying setup!

That's an easier question. In the "Add association" dialogue of 
Assoedit, you can choose either "Object" or "Program". If you have a 
program object set up for Firefox, then it will appear in the "Objects" 
list, and you can choose it. In your case, you probably haven't created 
a program object, so you need to specify "Program", and then type 
"firefox.exe" in the "Program" box near the bottom of the dialogue. (But 
you have to include the path as well, because Firefox isn't one of those 
stupid programs that insist on cluttering up your PATH environment 
variable.)

Personally, I prefer to create a program object for Firefox, so that I 
can put a shadow of it into the eCSCentre toolbar. It only takes a few 
seconds to create a program object from an EXE file, and it pays off in 
convenience.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                      http://www.pmoylan dot org

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Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:58:11 +0800
From:  "Nicholas Lysaght" <nicholasrf at gmail dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Bootmanage XP

Good Morning Peter.

What I have found. Hope it works for you. It does for me, sometimes :-)

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Peter L Allen
<allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>wrote:

> Clean disk -

That's where we differ. Do not DFsee a partition. Windows usually does not
recognise it.

> dfsee a partition - install XP -

This is the point where I would introduce the eCs Install CD. If it can work
with XP, install BM and whatever eCs partitions you want, well and good. If
not:

Introduce eCs Install CD. Try resetting the Mater Boot Record. You may need
a couple of attempts.

If that doesn't work, try DFSee to disable the Windows MBR so as you can
replace with BM, but in such a way that when BM points to the Windows
partiton, Windows will boot. Lots of experimentation here.

A tip from a friend: Don't assign a Drive Letter to  the Windows
Partition.  For some reason, that helps.

I have even come across  a situation  where the Windows MBR is  locked to
Read Only, and  nothing seems to dislodge it.  I'm at a loss here....not
sure what you can do.

> install boot manager from dfsee - add xp to
> BM in dfsee - dfsee shows BM as active and XP as bootable.
> Will not work - what am I missing ( Yeah right, apart from that),

See above.

>
>
>                        Regards,
>                                        allenpl

Hope what I've sent helps you.  It works for me most of the time.....ah!
that's it! That's what you must have plenty of....time! <LOL>.

Regards

NICK

>
>
>

>  

>

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:44:50 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  How to use FM/2 to show directory sizes sorted

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>>>> sizes etc. I could also check for duplicate copies of files in 
>>>> different
>>>> sub-directories at the same time.
>>> Ed,
>>> there is/was an excellent de-duplicator, I think... ERacer ?
>> Hi Voytek, Ed,
>>
>> Another good one is Clone250 by Edward Marsh, that I have.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
> Yes I downloaded clone250 from Hobbes this morning - hopefully I'll 
> get around to testing these over the weekend.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
Well my first test using Eracer/2 hasn't gone well, the congigure option 
doesn't let me set the directory and then when I tell it to run, the 
program simply exits - could this be as it's not registered ?

In any case Null punkte for this program !

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:46:05 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Bootmanage XP

Peter L Allen wrote:
> Clean disk - dfsee a partition - install XP - install boot manager from dfsee - add xp to 
> BM in dfsee - dfsee shows BM as active and XP as bootable.
> Will not work - what am I missing ( Yeah right, apart from that),
>
> 			Regards,
> 					allenpl
>   
Just a suggestion; if you have Partition Magic make the partitions with 
it. Then install Win XP into the first primary partition and eCS into 
another primary partition. Then install Airboot and use it to start 
either OS.

Regards,

Alan Duval
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:57:59 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:   OOo240

Hi ,

I have just installed OpenOffice 2.40 over my previous 2.0 version but 
find it slower to load. I have QuickStart in the Startup folder and find 
that OOo2.4 takes about 7 - 8 secs to load initially whereas OOo2.0 took 
about 4 secs. I have eCS2.0 RC4 installed into a JFS partition and most 
of my applications are in a HPFS partition as they were in this 
partition when I was using eCS1.2.  Would this affect loading time for 
Open Office? Has anyone else installed OOo2.4? If so do you find a 
similar decrease in loading time?

Regards,

Alan Duval
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:05:53 +1100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Bootmanage XP

Alan Duval wrote:
> Peter L Allen wrote:
>> Clean disk - dfsee a partition - install XP - install boot manager 
>> from dfsee - add xp to BM in dfsee - dfsee shows BM as active and XP 
>> as bootable.
>> Will not work - what am I missing ( Yeah right, apart from that),
>>
>> Regards,
>> allenpl
> Just a suggestion; if you have Partition Magic make the partitions 
> with it. Then install Win XP into the first primary partition and eCS 
> into another primary partition. Then install Airboot and use it to 
> start either OS.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan Duval
Forgot to mention, I get around the problem by having removable drives 
and I have my different OSes on separate drives. That way there's no 
worry with conflicting systems.

Alan
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:16:27 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  How to use FM/2 to show directory sizes sorted

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>>> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>>>>> sizes etc. I could also check for duplicate copies of files in 
>>>>> different
>>>>> sub-directories at the same time.
>>>> Ed,
>>>> there is/was an excellent de-duplicator, I think... ERacer ?
>>> Hi Voytek, Ed,
>>>
>>> Another good one is Clone250 by Edward Marsh, that I have.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>> Yes I downloaded clone250 from Hobbes this morning - hopefully I'll 
>> get around to testing these over the weekend.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
> Well my first test using Eracer/2 hasn't gone well, the congigure 
> option doesn't let me set the directory and then when I tell it to 
> run, the program simply exits - could this be as it's not registered ?
>
> In any case Null punkte for this program !
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
Just tried Clone 250 - it ran but said it found no duplicates but only 
looked at 12 files (instead of I expect 6000 files), then when I went 
into the settings it said that settings would not be saved - again I 
guess as it's not registered. How am I supposed to test a program if it 
refuses to operate until it's registered? I certainly wont buy programs 
that work like that!

A Rexx script is looking better and better at present !

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:18:30 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  OOo240

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi ,
>
> I have just installed OpenOffice 2.40 over my previous 2.0 version but 
> find it slower to load. I have QuickStart in the Startup folder and 
> find that OOo2.4 takes about 7 - 8 secs to load initially whereas 
> OOo2.0 took about 4 secs. I have eCS2.0 RC4 installed into a JFS 
> partition and most of my applications are in a HPFS partition as they 
> were in this partition when I was using eCS1.2.  Would this affect 
> loading time for Open Office? Has anyone else installed OOo2.4? If so 
> do you find a similar decrease in loading time?
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan Duval
 
>
> 

>
It's probably wiser to install to a new directory. not over the top of 
an old version. That could be part of the problem.

Even better to de-install the older version first.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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