Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1656
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Friday 13 June 2008
 Number  1656
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  USB printers : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
2  Re:  USB printers : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
3  Re:  USB printers : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
4  Re:  USB printers : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
5  Re:  USB printers : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
6  Re:  USB printers : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
7  Re:  USB printers : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
8  Re:  USB printers : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  Re:  USB printers : Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
10  Re:  USB printers : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:58:48 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>
> If yes, dont try the convertors,
eCS even can't cope with these devices.
> rather buy a parrallel port PCI card for the machine.
>
You need to install the driver for such a toy of course, IIRC it's

BASEDEV=PAR1284.SYS

but as it is already along time ago I'm not sure it's that one.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:45:30 -0600
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>
>> If yes, dont try the convertors,
> eCS even can't cope with these devices.
>> rather buy a parrallel port PCI card for the machine.
>>
> You need to install the driver for such a toy of course, IIRC it's
> 
> BASEDEV=PAR1284.SYS
> 
> 
> but as it is already along time ago I'm not sure it's that one.
> 

Actually, the Parallel Port Device Driver with PCI support available 
from www.ecomstation dot com should drive the parallel PCI card quite well.

Make sure that you have the IBM USB Print Support installed.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

He will not suffer thy foot to be moved: he that keepeth thee will not 
slumber. Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. 
Psalm 121:3,4

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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:30:22 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Voytek Eymont ha scritto:
> Ed, what's wrong with converters ?
>
>   
Simplicemete, there are no drivers available.
> hence, I'm curious of any known problems with the USB/LPT gizmos
>
>   
Any device needs an appropriate and specific driver. And afaik there are 
no  os2/ecs drivers for usb/lpt converters.
>
>   

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:34:52 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Chuck McKinnis ha scritto:
>
> Actually, the Parallel Port Device Driver with PCI support available 
> from www.ecomstation dot com should drive the parallel PCI card quite well.
>
> Make sure that you have the IBM USB Print Support installed.
>
Could you elaborate a bit?

I'd printed from a parallel port pci card to LPT2 in the era _USB even 
didn't exist. So, why would we need to install USB then?_

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:42:29 -0600
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Chuck McKinnis ha scritto:
>>
>> Actually, the Parallel Port Device Driver with PCI support available 
>> from www.ecomstation dot com should drive the parallel PCI card quite well.
>>
>> Make sure that you have the IBM USB Print Support installed.
>>
> Could you elaborate a bit?
> 
> I'd printed from a parallel port pci card to LPT2 in the era _USB even 
> didn't exist. So, why would we need to install USB then?_
> 

 From the original post:

Motherboard without parallel port.
USB to parallel converter cable.

Choices:
Drive as a USB printer using the cable. (USBPRINT)
Put in a PCI parallel card.  (PRINT01.SYS)

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters 
cover the sea. Isaiah 11:9

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:36:27 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Chuck McKinnis ha scritto:
> Kris Steenhaut wrote:

> Choices:
> Drive as a USB printer using the cable. (USBPRINT)
> Put in a PCI parallel card.  (PRINT01.SYS)
>
Yes indeed:

> The PRINT01.SYS DD is modified to support PCI PPs. 
I presume you have to redirect usb to lpt1 or is it the other way around?

Taking the opportunity, in order to print from WPDos (which only prints 
to LPT) I used to redirect lpt1 to usb. But since a long while ago I 
can't do it anymore as the VDM stalls with the message "port not available".

Any idea wath could be the reason, or how to sort it out?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:40:47 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>> Alan Duval wrote:
> 
>> Does your printer only have a parrallel port - no USB port ??
> 
> 
> I think I misread the original email, I thought the printer was USB
> 
> 
>> If yes, dont try the convertors, rather buy a parrallel port PCI card
>> for the machine.
> 
> 
> Ed, what's wrong with converters ?
> 
> fwiw, earlier today I've attempted to transfer a HP 2100 LPT from LPT to a
> new PC, USB only (both PCs windoze XP)
> 
> so, when I connected the HP to USB using USB 2 metre extension, plus,
> Belkin USB/parallel, the printer went off line every time anythings was
> printed.
> 
> eventually, I've moved the printer back to the old PC with parallel, it
> worked OK
> 
> hence, I'm curious of any known problems with the USB/LPT gizmos
> 
> 
> 
These "Gizmos" can use different chipsets and not all operate in the 
same way. I have read recently that the IBM/Lenovo USB to Serial 
convertor works - If this is the original IBM one, it is a combined USB 
to Serial/Parrallel convertor, so perhaps that works with the available 
OS/2 driver, but one from a different company or even a new model from 
Lenovo may not work with OS/2.

The fact that you also had problems under Windoze with your Belkin 
device could have several reasons, perhaps that 2M extension cable was 
the reason ? Did you install Belkin supplied drivers or rely on the 
standard ones in Windoze ?

My understanding from the first e-mail was that the printer only had a 
parallel port, but that was only my reading of what was said. If the 
printer has a USB port and is supported by an OS/2 driver then if using 
the latest USB stack, it "ought" to work with OS/2 and in this case why 
would one need to use a converter gizmo ?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:41:16 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:

> The fact that you also had problems under Windoze with your Belkin
> device could have several reasons, perhaps that 2M extension cable was the
> reason ? Did you install Belkin supplied drivers or rely on the standard
> ones in Windoze ?

I've used the default windoze drivers, perhaps Belkin's drivers would have
worked, but, we ended up moving the printer back to LTP/PRN cable/socket,
as the time taken was exceeding cost of new printer (which is not hard to
achieve)

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:16:33 +1000
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at westnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Alan Duval wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any way to get a printer working in eCS when connected to a 
>> USB port?  I have a motherboard that doesn't have a parallel port and 
>> have tried using a cable that connects the USB port to the parallel 
>> connector on the printer but although I've installed the driver to ? 
>> recognize the USB port, I can't print. Have resurrected an older 
>> computer in the meantime.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Duval
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
> Does your printer only have a parrallel port - no USB port ??

Yes

>
> If yes, dont try the convertors, rather buy a parrallel port PCI card 
> for the machine.

I was told by the local computer shop that no such card exists!  If they 
do, where are they available?

Regards,

Alan

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:24:00 -0600
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  USB printers

Alan Duval wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there any way to get a printer working in eCS when connected to a 
>>> USB port?  I have a motherboard that doesn't have a parallel port and 
>>> have tried using a cable that connects the USB port to the parallel 
>>> connector on the printer but although I've installed the driver to ? 
>>> recognize the USB port, I can't print. Have resurrected an older 
>>> computer in the meantime.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan Duval
 
>>>
>>> 

>>>
>> Does your printer only have a parrallel port - no USB port ??
> 
> Yes
> 
>>
>> If yes, dont try the convertors, rather buy a parrallel port PCI card 
>> for the machine.
> 
> I was told by the local computer shop that no such card exists!  If they 
> do, where are they available?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan

Newegg lists about 20 of them (less than $20 US).

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law. 
Psalm 119:18

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