Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1628
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:01:17 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Monday 24 March 2008
 Number  1628
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  SW: Updated test version of 'refreshed' Uniaud32 : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
2  Re:  SW: Updated test version of 'refreshed' Uniaud32 : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
3   Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
4  Re:  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
5  Re:  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
6   LIBC063 ? Re:  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
7   Firefox/2 URL? hobbes plugin ? : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
8  Re:  LIBC063 ? Re:  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
9  Re:  Firefox/2 URL? hobbes plugin ? : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
10  Re:  LIBC063 ?  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
11  Re:  LIBC063 ?  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:35:57 +1030
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley dot id dot au>
Subject:  Re:  SW: Updated test version of 'refreshed' Uniaud32

Hi Kris,

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Paul Smedley ha scritto:
>> Hi Kris,
>> I'd be interested in a copy of alsahlp$ from both rc5 and 1.0.16 for 
>> comparison, and also confirmation that you're using uniaud16.sys from 
>> 1.1.4rc5
>>
>>   
> 
> Confirmative at the last part, uniaud16.sys from rc5.
> 
> What's alsaship$ and where do I find the copy?
copy alsahalp$ alsagood.log for the working build

copy alsahalp$ alsabad.log for the working build

And preferably using the debug versions

Cheers,

Paul.
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Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:38:41 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  SW: Updated test version of 'refreshed' Uniaud32

Paul Smedley ha scritto:
>> What's alsaship$ and where do I find the copy?
> copy alsahalp$ alsagood.log for the working build
>
I'm getting an error message doing so:

> D:\>copy alsahalp$ alsagood.log
> alsahalp$
> SYS0002: Het systeem kan het bestand niet vinden.
>         0 bestand(en) gekopieerd.

> copy alsahalp$ alsabad.log for the working build
>
You mean the not working build, don't you?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:58:35 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:   Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS

Some of you may have seen this already, but if you haven't, here it is
straight from the VOICE announcement
 
[Begin]

VOICE Members
 
PMMail 3.00 is now released as shareware.   Those who want a copy of the
shareware 
program should download it from the VOICE website.

http://pmmail.os2voice dot org

Registration is available to VOICE members ONLY.

You must be a VOICE member to get a registration code.
If you were a member of VOICE on 31 December, 2006, then you are entitled
to a free 
registration code for PMMail.   This is a benefit to reward  longtime
membership.

If your membership ID is over 1445 then you joined VOICE after 1 January,
2007, and 
must purchase a licence.   The licence is $25.00.  
The easiest way to send in $25.00 is to pay the fee for an additional
annual 
membership at BMT Micro or Mensys.  This membership will NOT extend your 
membership time but is for purchase of a PMMail registration code only.

People who are not now members and want the program must purchase an annual

membership to join and another membership for the licence fee.
If you are not yet a VOICE member you can join up here:

http://www.os2voice dot org/membership.html

Members, both longtime and new,  can get a registration code by sending me
an email 
requesting one at 
 
treasurer at os2voice dot org
 
This email must come from the email address that you used 
when you last sent in your membership application.   I will confirm your
membership ID 
number.  If it is over 1445 I will await notification from Mensys or BMT
Micro that you 
have purchased an additional annual membership before I send it out.
 
When you get the registration code you should follow the instructions in
the Help 
screens to apply the registration to the program.

Gordon Snider
Treasurer - V.O.I.C.E.

[End]

I signed up to Voice last November and have been providing feedback during
the beta testing stage. This is a good upgrade for faithful PMMail/2 fans,
and despite using beta code, I have been using it as my default mail
program for most of 2008 <g>.

Now, having paid my extra $US25, I have just received my registration code.

A caution for anyone wanting to migrate to the new version. The older
PMMail (v2.20) was very forgiving - some would say sloppy - about the
condition of emails stored by OS/2 on disk.

The migration tool is more rigorous about the copying of emails to the new
directory structure, and will likely fail if you have poor data or your
disk drive is a bit flakey. 

I would recommend a thorough CHKDSK of your data drive (yes, including JFS)
before commencing your migration.

Nevertheless, Enjoy!

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:21:43 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS

does it support SMTP AUTH ?

<quote who="John Angelico">
> Some of you may have seen this already, but if you haven't, here it is
> straight from the VOICE announcement
>
> [Begin]
>
>
> VOICE Members
>
>
> PMMail 3.00 is now released as shareware.   Those who want a copy of the
> shareware program should download it from the VOICE website.
>
> http://pmmail.os2voice dot org
>
>
> Registration is available to VOICE members ONLY.
>
>
> You must be a VOICE member to get a registration code.
> If you were a member of VOICE on 31 December, 2006, then you are entitled
> to a free registration code for PMMail.   This is a benefit to reward
> longtime membership.
>
> If your membership ID is over 1445 then you joined VOICE after 1 January,
>  2007, and
> must purchase a licence.   The licence is $25.00. The easiest way to send
> in $25.00 is to pay the fee for an additional annual membership at BMT
> Micro or Mensys.  This membership will NOT extend your
> membership time but is for purchase of a PMMail registration code only.
>
> People who are not now members and want the program must purchase an
> annual
>
> membership to join and another membership for the licence fee. If you are
> not yet a VOICE member you can join up here:
>
> http://www.os2voice dot org/membership.html
>
>
> Members, both longtime and new,  can get a registration code by sending
> me an email requesting one at
>
> treasurer at os2voice dot org
>
> This email must come from the email address that you used
> when you last sent in your membership application.   I will confirm your
> membership ID number.  If it is over 1445 I will await notification from
> Mensys or BMT
> Micro that you
> have purchased an additional annual membership before I send it out.
>
> When you get the registration code you should follow the instructions in
> the Help screens to apply the registration to the program.
>
>
> Gordon Snider
> Treasurer - V.O.I.C.E.
>
>
> [End]
>
>
>
> I signed up to Voice last November and have been providing feedback
> during the beta testing stage. This is a good upgrade for faithful
> PMMail/2 fans,
> and despite using beta code, I have been using it as my default mail
> program for most of 2008 <g>.
>
> Now, having paid my extra $US25, I have just received my registration
> code.
>
> A caution for anyone wanting to migrate to the new version. The older
> PMMail (v2.20) was very forgiving - some would say sloppy - about the
> condition of emails stored by OS/2 on disk.
>
> The migration tool is more rigorous about the copying of emails to the
> new directory structure, and will likely fail if you have poor data or
> your disk drive is a bit flakey.
>
> I would recommend a thorough CHKDSK of your data drive (yes, including
> JFS)
> before commencing your migration.
>
> Nevertheless, Enjoy!
>
>
>
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG
> os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 

>
>

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:07:36 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:21:43 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>does it support SMTP AUTH ?

From the Help File:

[Begin]
Server requires authentication 
If your SMTP Server requires authentication before sending your mail, check
this box. Enter your User ID and Password in the Authentication Info text
fields. 

PMMail uses ESMTP (Extended SMTP) exensions to query the server what
services are available. For Authentication PMMail uses the most secure
method offered but tries less secure options if a more secure method is not
available.   

Use Secure Channel 
Enable the option to allow secure communication with the server. The option
is unavailable (grayed out) if the Tunnel is not running, or if there is no
Channel definition which matches the Server Name and Port number.   

Extended SMTP Options 
Over the years various additional features and options have been added to
the basic SMTP protocol. Among them are Secure Log On, and Message Size.
Not all servers, however, implement these options robustly. Some advertise
a capability then reject messages that employ it. For this reason the
extended SMTP (ESMTP) options  are optional.   

....

The ESMTP options are enabled by default.   

AUTH DIGEST-MD5 
The DIGEST-MD5 authentication protocol is a strong, secure method for
providing authentication credentials (a Username and Password) that
prevents an outsider from determining the credentials. It is good against
the "Man in the middle" style of eavesdropping. Not many SMTP servers offer
this capability.   

AUTH CRAM-MD5 
The DIGEST-MD5 authentication protocol is a strong, secure method for
providing authentication credentials (a Username and Password) that
prevents an outsider from determining the credentials. It is not as strong
as DIGEST-MD5 being smoewhat more vulnerable to the "Man in the middle"
attack. This is the protocol of choice for SMTP servers since it offers
good protection and low overhead.   

Message SIZE 
The message SIZE option permits the User Agent (PMMail) to give the server
advance warning of the size of the message about to be sent. If the server
has insufficient space in the target account for the message, the server
rejects before the data is sent. 

[End]

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:31:10 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:   LIBC063 ? Re:  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS

<quote who="John Angelico">
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:21:43 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>
>> does it support SMTP AUTH ?
>
> From the Help File:

thanks, John

I tried installing but get:

0[roman][F:\PMMAIL3\BIN]pmmail
SYS1804: The system cannot find the file LIBC063.

what/where the LIBC063 ?

btw, do I also need ALL of these:

03-10-27  17:13     230785           0  libc04.dll
04-04-14  16:37     356330           0  libc05.dll
06-03-18   7:19      48120           0  libc06.dll
06-03-18   7:19     928802           0  libc061.dll
05-07-18  13:38     912103           0  libc06r1.dll

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:35:16 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:   Firefox/2 URL? hobbes plugin ?

where from do I obtain current/latest Firefox build ?

hmmm, I just tried to install hobbes search plug in into windoze Firefox,
Firefox addin page says:
hobbes
Search Add-ons
No results found.

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:50:06 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  LIBC063 ? Re:  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS

On 24/03/08 14:31, Voytek Eymont wrote:
> 
> what/where the LIBC063 ?

ftp://ftp dot netlabs dot org/pub/gcc/

I see that they have it as a zip file, an exe file, and a wpi file. I've
always downloaded the zip version, but perhaps the wpi version will be
more careful about putting the DLL into the correct directory, and
keeping track of which versions you have. The exe file is probably an
installer for those people who don't have Warpin.

> btw, do I also need ALL of these:
> 
> 03-10-27  17:13     230785           0  libc04.dll
> 04-04-14  16:37     356330           0  libc05.dll
> 06-03-18   7:19      48120           0  libc06.dll
> 06-03-18   7:19     928802           0  libc061.dll
> 05-07-18  13:38     912103           0  libc06r1.dll

I've often wondered this myself. The most likely answer is that you do
need them all. Lots of OS/2 software uses the libc DLL, and different
programs will probably be wanting different versions, depending on when
they were released. I'm not sure whether a program that expects an older
version will accept a newer one, but I suspect not.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:49:29 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Firefox/2 URL? hobbes plugin ?

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:35:16 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>where from do I obtain current/latest Firefox build ?

You could start at Firefox Central (or with a Google search for Firefox :-)
)
http://www.mozilla dot com/en-US/products/firefox/central.html

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:58:25 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  LIBC063 ?  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:31:10 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>
>what/where the LIBC063 ?
>
Try:
ftp://ftp dot netlabs dot org/incoming/gcc/libc-0.6.3-csd3.zip

It's definitely there but I am not 100% sure of the filename to get who did
the libc set in the first place

>btw, do I also need ALL of these:
>
>03-10-27  17:13     230785           0  libc04.dll
>04-04-14  16:37     356330           0  libc05.dll
>06-03-18   7:19      48120           0  libc06.dll
>06-03-18   7:19     928802           0  libc061.dll
>05-07-18  13:38     912103           0  libc06r1.dll

Yes, for backwards compatibility with other apps built using GCC which look
for them

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:04:40 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  LIBC063 ?  Release of PMMail 3.00 for OS/2-eCS

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:58:25 +1000 (AEST), John Angelico wrote:

>Try:
>ftp://ftp dot netlabs dot org/incoming/gcc/libc-0.6.3-csd3.zip
>
>It's definitely there but I am not 100% sure of the filename to get who did
>the libc set in the first place

Should have read:

It's definitely there but I am not 100% sure of the filename to get.

Also available from Innotek, who did the libc set in the first place.

Sorry don't know what happened with the typing...

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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