Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1601
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Monday 04 February 2008
 Number  1601
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
2  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
3  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
4  Re:  Intermittent problem : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
5  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
7  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
8  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
10  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>

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Date:  Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:29:40 -0700
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

Alan Duval wrote:
> 
> 
> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
>> Alan Duval ha scritto:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Since installing  eCs afresh on to a new HD, I  can't get  Copyshop  
>>> to work. I reinstalled it but after booting again and trying to copy  
>>> via my HP4P scanner  an error message came up saying:
>>> Scanner problem
>>> Open failed: return Code=20
>>>
>>> On checking  the bootup text I noted that SCANHP1.SYS couldn't be 
>>> found and wasn't loaded. However the file is in the right place (in 
>>> C:\os2\boot) and the entries in config.sys all point to D:\copyshop 
>>
>> And what about scanos2.sys? IIRC it has to reside in \os2\boot too, 
>> with a full path entry in the config.sys.
>>
>> DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\SCANOS2.SYS /N
>>
> Thanks Kris. That line wasn't in Config.sys  so I typed it in and 
> Copyshop now works. I don't know why the installation didn't put it in 
> since it put the other in and I've never had that problem before..
> Also found how to fax from TAME2. Wheras Copyshop automatically opens 
> FAXWORKS when it finishes scanning for a fax, TAME2 doesn't so it has to 
> be opened.
> 
> Question:  If I copy my fax files  from my previous HD  to FAXWORKS in 
> this  installation will they be recognized?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan Duval

I went through this exercise recently.  Keep all of the fax files in a 
separate directory and use the -L <path> parm on Faxworks to point to 
the files.  You can then copy the old directory to the newly created one 
intact and use it.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

The Lord will not suffer the soul of the righteous to famish: but he 
casteth away the substance of the wicked. Proverbs 10:3

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Date:  Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:33:56 -0700
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since installing  eCs afresh on to a new HD, I  can't get  Copyshop  to 
> work. I reinstalled it but after booting again and trying to copy  via 
> my HP4P scanner  an error message came up saying:
> Scanner problem
> Open failed: return Code=20
> 
> On checking  the bootup text I noted that SCANHP1.SYS couldn't be found 
> and wasn't loaded. However the file is in the right place (in 
> C:\os2\boot) and the entries in config.sys all point to D:\copyshop 
> where copyshop was installed, so I am mystified. I have TAME2 installed 
> and can scan with it but have not been able to find out how to get it to 
> scan to Faxworks as nothing happens when I select the FX print printer  
> and do a scan to it.
> Copyshop was working well  with eCs  on my previuous HD and would 
> immediately open faxworks.
> 
> I think Voytek may be the one to advise me how to fox this as I know he 
> uses Copyshop a lot.

I know you have it fixed, but thought I would add the following:

I think that SCANHP1.SYS is only used to support the special HP card 
that shipped with some scanners.  SCANOS2.SYS is used to support all 
other SCSI cards.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: for his mercy endureth 
forever. Psalm 118:29

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Date:  Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:57:37 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

Alan Duval ha scritto:
>
> Question:  If I copy my fax files  from my previous HD  to FAXWORKS in 
> this  installation will they be recognized?
>
Yes, if you copy to the right Faxworks directory. If it were me I would 
copy them to the standard sent directory, as they can be opened then 
from there.

Can't tell you more, as I only have a PCI modem attached to the system now.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:22:15 +1100
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Intermittent problem

Hi Alan,

I hope your system continues to work, but would suggest you run it for
a week without touching it just to make sure.

As for the 5volt and keyboard reference I made earlier, most of your 
computer uses 5 volt line and a lot also use 12 volt.  The keyboard failure
could have been because the original Power Supply Unit (PSU) failed
catastrophically due to surge and allowed the surge voltage through
on the 5 volt line.  (This not uncommon.) Or the PSU shorted internally and
allowed high voltage (240v) through on to the 5 volt line. (Very uncommon.)

Since the keyboard is ONLY connected to data lines and 5 volt, and IF
the failure was due to surge/high volts, then it MAY be an indicator to
be suspicious of anything else in your system that draws on the 5 volt.

USB is one such that directly draws on the 5 volt ONLY.

It could however be coincidence and simply the oldest part is also the 
weakest electrically, and a slight surge allowed through, was the final 
straw that broke the camels back.  ie The keyboard failed and in failing,
is likely to have absorbed the surge and perhaps prevented other 
components from damage.  This is what I THINK has happened.

It is all conjecture.  Only time will tell.  But you MUST get a UPS.!

The PSU you now have is one that is currently being sold at the computer
markets in Melbourne for $30.00 by King Cable - YESTERDAY.!  
It is considered to be a VERY average PSU.  Some hate it, some love it.  
A very mixed bag of opinions of this brand. Personally, I have had no 
experience with it at all, but then I tend to avoid cheap PSU's..!

Cheap PSU's are cheap for a good reason.  They are likely to have low
quality components and most often part saved is in the MOVs, these are
the internal components that give you SOME protection from surges on 
the 240v AC line.  MOVs are the cheapest way of giving short term AC surge
protection. They degrade with every surge and in time will give zero
protection. ie, The next surge coming through will literally go right on
through, unimpeded.!

The thing to stress, is that in an environment where you are subject to AC
surges, a new GOOD quality PSU will only give you protection for at best,
a few years. Eventually the PSU's own MOVS will have degraded to the point
where the next major surge, will destroy something.  Usually the PSU itself.

A CHEAP PSU will have almost NO protection when NEW.  And MAY even now
be allowing small surges through.  The surges themselves can be causing
booting problems too.!

If it was me, I would also throw out you current Surge Protector as it MAY
not be working anymore.  Good quality units have indicators on them to
indicate their functional state.  A UPS is essential, in my opinion and far better.!

_____________
As for the problem of using the hard drives with the other OSs.
You now have to decide wether to TRY ALL NEW cradles and the FIXED
part that hold the cradle into the computer box.  
For longevity, I suggest METAL ones.

If you try plastic ones again, then if all are new and of the SAME brand then 
you should be ok for a year or two.  The metal ones are much more 
expensive.! Over $100.00 a set.!

HTH,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
4 February 2008   9:19

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:28:47 +0000, Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> 
> I think that removable cradle was the problem as  my system is now 
> functioning normally. I hope it continues to do so. I was a little 
> worried this am when  the speakers gave two short sounds when I used my 
> scanner as  that usually heralded a sudden shutdown previously.  Anyhow 
> a shutdown didn't occur and I have been using eCs a lot since.
> 
> My problem now will be how I can use WINXP and Linspire as they are on 
> HD's in other cradles. Seems like the constant changing of the HD's  
> must cause a  poor connection as the setup had been working well for a 
> long time.
> 
> You said that the keyboard and  the USB devices both  use a 5v power 
> supply. Does the DVD player also use  5v?  I ask this as  my problems 
> were  accentuated when I tried to image my system to a DVD using DFSee 
> and RSJ and the system locked up and then shutdown.
> 
> Many thanks for your help,
> Regards,
> Alan

And another email Alan said:-
> The power supply is a BESTA PT-550.  Total output is 550 W
> A/C input             115/250 V
>                                50/60 Hz
>                                6A/4A
> DC output  (Max)   +33V      29A
>                                 +5V        43A
>                                 +12V      18A
>                                 -12V       0.8A
>                                 +5Vsd     2.5A
> Looks like it's made in Germany and is marked as  supporting AMD and Intel.

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \   email    rtraynor.removeme at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au
 \_,--.x/ 

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Date:  Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:41:40 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

<quote who="Alan Duval">

> I think Voytek may be the one to advise me how to fox this as I know he
> uses Copyshop a lot.

glad to see you've already got it sorted out.

coincidentally, I've recently exchanged some emails with Paul Balme
(CopyShop author)

more coincidentally, mine developed a problem where it now throws up an
error message (or two), but still works after clearing these messages

my scanner is hooked up to an Adaptec 2940, but, I'm not using CopyShop's
(Danmar sp?) scanner driver, I'm using custom Galleria/Bitware driver

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:50:11 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

<quote who="Voytek Eymont">

> my scanner is hooked up to an Adaptec 2940, but, I'm not using CopyShop's
>  (Danmar sp?) scanner driver, I'm using custom Galleria/Bitware driver

hmmm, actually, I'm using Impos driver:

rem HP scanner support
rem DEVICE=F:\GALL\BITWARE9.SYS
DEVICE=F:\IMPOS2\HPSJII.SYS

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:55:03 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

<quote who="Chuck McKinnis">
> Alan Duval wrote:

> I went through this exercise recently.  Keep all of the fax files in a
> separate directory and use the -L <path> parm on Faxworks to point to the
> files.  You can then copy the old directory to the newly created one
> intact and use it.

I use multiple PMfax objects that use different -L path for the 'current'
faxes and for archive or network/standalone or whatever

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:59:25 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

<quote who="Chuck McKinnis">

> I know you have it fixed, but thought I would add the following:
>
>
> I think that SCANHP1.SYS is only used to support the special HP card
> that shipped with some scanners.  SCANOS2.SYS is used to support all other
> SCSI cards.

Chuck,

that's also my recollection, you only need one or the other

and.... the HP card supported were the one... with ? or, without ? jumpers

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:17:11 -0700
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Chuck McKinnis">
> 
>> I know you have it fixed, but thought I would add the following:
>>
>>
>> I think that SCANHP1.SYS is only used to support the special HP card
>> that shipped with some scanners.  SCANOS2.SYS is used to support all other
>> SCSI cards.
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> that's also my recollection, you only need one or the other
> 
> and.... the HP card supported were the one... with ? or, without ? jumpers
> 

I think I had an HP card once.  Gave it away.  Don't recall that it had 
any jumpers.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

I wait for the Lord, my soul doth wait, and in his word do I hope. Psalm 
130:5

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Date:  Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:01:20 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Copyshop   & Faxworks

<quote who="Chuck McKinnis">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>> <quote who="Chuck McKinnis">
>>
>>
>>> I know you have it fixed, but thought I would add the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that SCANHP1.SYS is only used to support the special HP card
>>> that shipped with some scanners.  SCANOS2.SYS is used to support all
>>> other SCSI cards.
>>>
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>> that's also my recollection, you only need one or the other
>>
>> and.... the HP card supported were the one... with ? or, without ?
>> jumpers
>>
>
> I think I had an HP card once.  Gave it away.  Don't recall that it had
> any jumpers.

my recollection is that there were two types HP cards, with and without
jumpers, and, only one type was ever supported

-- 
Voytek

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