Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1593
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:01:43 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 19 January 2008
 Number  1593
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Subjects for today
 
1   Odd webpage : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
2  Re:  Odd webpage : Peter A Jenkins <peter.a.jenkins at internode.on dot net>
3  Re:  Odd webpage : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
4  Re:  Odd webpage : Peter A Jenkins <peter.a.jenkins at internode.on dot net>
5  Re:  Odd webpage : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
6  Re:  Odd webpage : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
7  Re:  Odd webpage : Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
8  Re:  Odd webpage : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
9  Re:  Odd webpage : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
10  Re:  Odd webpage : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
11  Re:  Odd webpage : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
12  Re:  Odd webpage : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
13  Re:  Odd webpage : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
14  Re:  Odd webpage : Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
15  Re:  Odd webpage : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
16  Re:  Odd webpage : Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:49:07 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:   Odd webpage

Hi,

  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the browser 
to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone get this to 
load under Os/2 or eCS ?

http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:29:27 +1030
From:  Peter A Jenkins <peter.a.jenkins at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the browser 
> to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone get this to 
> load under Os/2 or eCS ?
>
> http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
Loads OK here Ed. ecs 2.0rc4 & Seamonkey 1.1.7

-- 

May your moccasins leave tracks, on many mounds of worth, and walk with chiefs of every tribe who live in peace on earth.

Peter A  Jenkins
(AKA grandad or pj)
Port Pirie South Australia
PROUD USER OF A VIRUS & MALWARE FREE OPERATING SYSTEM
Serenity Systems "Ecomstation" ver 2.0 RC4, the successor to IBM's os/2
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:08:02 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

Peter A Jenkins wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the browser 
>> to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone get this 
>> to load under Os/2 or eCS ?
>>
>> http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
> Loads OK here Ed. ecs 2.0rc4 & Seamonkey 1.1.7
>
OK, SeaMonkey I haven't tried. I suspect there's flash on the page ?? Do 
you have flash support loaded in SeaMonkey ?

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:45:40 +1030
From:  Peter A Jenkins <peter.a.jenkins at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Peter A Jenkins wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the 
>>> browser to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone 
>>> get this to load under Os/2 or eCS ?
>>>
>>> http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893
>>>
>>> Cheers/2
>>>
>>> Ed.
 
>>>
>>> 

>>>
>> Loads OK here Ed. ecs 2.0rc4 & Seamonkey 1.1.7
>>
> OK, SeaMonkey I haven't tried. I suspect there's flash on the page ?? 
> Do you have flash support loaded in SeaMonkey ?
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
>
>
 
>
> 

>
Shown as 9.0r14 (7.0r14?)

-- 

May your moccasins leave tracks, on many mounds of worth, and walk with chiefs of every tribe who live in peace on earth.

Peter A  Jenkins
(AKA grandad or pj)
Port Pirie South Australia
PROUD USER OF A VIRUS & MALWARE FREE OPERATING SYSTEM
Serenity Systems "Ecomstation" ver 2.0 RC4, the successor to IBM's os/2
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:30:59 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

Peter A Jenkins wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Peter A Jenkins wrote:
>>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the 
>>>> browser to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone 
>>>> get this to load under Os/2 or eCS ?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893
>>>>
>>>> Cheers/2
>>>>
>>>> Ed.
> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>
>>>>
>>> Loads OK here Ed. ecs 2.0rc4 & Seamonkey 1.1.7
>>>
>> OK, SeaMonkey I haven't tried. I suspect there's flash on the page ?? 
>> Do you have flash support loaded in SeaMonkey ?
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
>>
>>
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
> Shown as 9.0r14 (7.0r14?)
>
OK, Thanks.

  I've just changed back from SeaMonkey to Firefox & Thunderbird, if I 
find more of these sites I may have to switch back.

  There's still something (IMHO) about stability of Browsers on OS/2 - 
certainly the Mozilla based ones when compared to the Netscape Browsers 
of a few years ago.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:15:55 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Peter A Jenkins wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Peter A Jenkins wrote:
>>>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the 
>>>>> browser to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone 
>>>>> get this to load under Os/2 or eCS ?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers/2
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed.
>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>
>>>>>
>>>> Loads OK here Ed. ecs 2.0rc4 & Seamonkey 1.1.7
>>>>
>>> OK, SeaMonkey I haven't tried. I suspect there's flash on the page 
>>> ?? Do you have flash support loaded in SeaMonkey ?
>>>
>>> Cheers/2
>>>
>>> Ed.
>>>
>>>
 
>>>
>>> 

>>>
>> Shown as 9.0r14 (7.0r14?)
>>
> OK, Thanks.
>
>  I've just changed back from SeaMonkey to Firefox & Thunderbird, if I 
> find more of these sites I may have to switch back.
>
>  There's still something (IMHO) about stability of Browsers on OS/2 - 
> certainly the Mozilla based ones when compared to the Netscape 
> Browsers of a few years ago.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
Removed Flash support and the page loaded fine in Firefox, so it looks 
like a flash plugin installation problem (again) I thought I had got 
past those !

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:05:05 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Peter L Allen" <allenpl at tastelfibre dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

snip

>>  I've just changed back from SeaMonkey to Firefox & Thunderbird, if I 
>> find more of these sites I may have to switch back.
>>
>>  There's still something (IMHO) about stability of Browsers on OS/2 - 
>> certainly the Mozilla based ones when compared to the Netscape 
>> Browsers of a few years ago.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>Removed Flash support and the page loaded fine in Firefox, so it looks 
>like a flash plugin installation problem (again) I thought I had got 
>past those !
>
>Cheers/2
>
>Ed.

> 

>
OK here Warp4 fp15 - pmw-fx 2.0.0.11 and ver 5 Flash, which I suspect does 4/5's of 
B*-all these days
			allenpl

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:30:54 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

On 19/01/08 14:15, Ed Durrant wrote:

> Removed Flash support and the page loaded fine in Firefox, so it
> looks like a flash plugin installation problem (again) I thought I
> had got past those !

That's one of the reasons - although not the main one - why Flashblock
is such a popular Firefox addon.

(The main reason, I imagine, is that Flash advertising is so much more
annoying than other forms of advertising.)

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:55:19 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:30:54 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:

>
>That's one of the reasons - although not the main one - why Flashblock
>is such a popular Firefox addon.
>
>(The main reason, I imagine, is that Flash advertising is so much more
>annoying than other forms of advertising.)

For similar reasons, I use NoScript
http://noscript dot net/

Oh, and the page loads OK in my Firefox 1.0.0.6 with NoScript blocking
"untrusted sites".

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
___________________

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:36:17 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
> Peter A Jenkins wrote:
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the 
>>> browser to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone 
>>> get this to load under Os/2 or eCS ?
>>>
>>> http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893
>>>
>>> Cheers/2
>>>
>>> Ed.
 
>>>
>>> 

>>>
>> Loads OK here Ed. ecs 2.0rc4 & Seamonkey 1.1.7
>>
> OK, SeaMonkey I haven't tried. I suspect there's flash on the page ??
Not at all, no flashy thing  at that site
> Do you have flash support loaded in SeaMonkey ?

I do have Flash, but it doesn't matter as that site doesn't use Flash. 
And yes, the site loads fine with SeaMonkey 1.1.7  (Weilbacher version)

Indidentally, it's easy to see if Flash is present or not, just do so,e 
RMB click on the page. If Flash is there, you'll see a Flash popup menu.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:45:43 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

John Angelico ha scritto:
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:30:54 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
>   
>> That's one of the reasons - although not the main one - why Flashblock
>> is such a popular Firefox addon.
>>
>> (The main reason, I imagine, is that Flash advertising is so much more
>> annoying than other forms of advertising.)
>>     
>
> For similar reasons, I use NoScript
> http://noscript dot net/
>
>   
Oh boy! This is a goody.

Thank you very much!!

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:49:16 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

John Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:30:54 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
>   
>> That's one of the reasons - although not the main one - why Flashblock
>> is such a popular Firefox addon.
>>
>> (The main reason, I imagine, is that Flash advertising is so much more
>> annoying than other forms of advertising.)
>>     
>
> For similar reasons, I use NoScript
> http://noscript dot net/
>
> Oh, and the page loads OK in my Firefox 1.0.0.6 with NoScript blocking
> "untrusted sites".
>
>
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG
> os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
> talldad at kepl dot com dot au
> ___________________
>
>   
Thanks John, that looks like a "must have" extension !

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:51:27 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>> Peter A Jenkins wrote:
>>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the 
>>>> browser to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone 
>>>> get this to load under Os/2 or eCS ?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893
>>>>
>>>> Cheers/2
>>>>
>>>> Ed.
> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>
>>>>
>>> Loads OK here Ed. ecs 2.0rc4 & Seamonkey 1.1.7
>>>
>> OK, SeaMonkey I haven't tried. I suspect there's flash on the page ??
> Not at all, no flashy thing  at that site
>> Do you have flash support loaded in SeaMonkey ?
>
> I do have Flash, but it doesn't matter as that site doesn't use Flash. 
> And yes, the site loads fine with SeaMonkey 1.1.7  (Weilbacher version)
>
>
> Indidentally, it's easy to see if Flash is present or not, just do 
> so,e RMB click on the page. If Flash is there, you'll see a Flash 
> popup menu.
>
>
Hi Kris,

  What is strange then is that once I removed the flash code from the 
plugins directory the page loaded ! I couldn't check anything previously 
as the browser closed after loading about 75% of the page.

I'll see if adding the No-Script extension suggested by John helps.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:04:09 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at durrant dot mine dot nu>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>> Peter A Jenkins wrote:
>>>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Whether I use Firefox or Opera the following page causes the 
>>>>> browser to close after loading about 75% of the page - does anyone 
>>>>> get this to load under Os/2 or eCS ?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ephotozine dot com/photo/788893
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers/2
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed.
>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>
>>>>>
>>>> Loads OK here Ed. ecs 2.0rc4 & Seamonkey 1.1.7
>>>>
>>> OK, SeaMonkey I haven't tried. I suspect there's flash on the page ??
>> Not at all, no flashy thing  at that site
>>> Do you have flash support loaded in SeaMonkey ?
>>
>> I do have Flash, but it doesn't matter as that site doesn't use 
>> Flash. And yes, the site loads fine with SeaMonkey 1.1.7  (Weilbacher 
>> version)
>>
>>
>> Indidentally, it's easy to see if Flash is present or not, just do 
>> so,e RMB click on the page. If Flash is there, you'll see a Flash 
>> popup menu.
>>
>>
> Hi Kris,
>
>  What is strange then is that once I removed the flash code from the 
> plugins directory the page loaded ! I couldn't check anything 
> previously as the browser closed after loading about 75% of the page.
>
> I'll see if adding the No-Script extension suggested by John helps.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
Yep - that fixed it ! - Thanks John.

Why when I removed Flash support it loaded, I don't know except if 
perhaps the unwanted pop up / incroacher used flash ??

In any case, now with flash back on and No_Script active, the page loads 
clean and a message states that scripts have been blocked.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:43:31 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:36:17 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>> OK, SeaMonkey I haven't tried. I suspect there's flash on the page ??
>Not at all, no flashy thing  at that site
>> Do you have flash support loaded in SeaMonkey ?
>
>I do have Flash, but it doesn't matter as that site doesn't use Flash. 
>And yes, the site loads fine with SeaMonkey 1.1.7  (Weilbacher version)
>
>
>Indidentally, it's easy to see if Flash is present or not, just do so,e 
>RMB click on the page. If Flash is there, you'll see a Flash popup menu.

Er, Kris, Ed's original point was that the page wasn't loading.

It would close the browser after about 75% of the page was downloaded but
none rendered.

So I infer there was no opportunity to RMB click.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
___________________

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**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:49:24 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at pmoylan dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Odd webpage

On 19/01/08 21:45, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> John Angelico ha scritto:
>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:30:54 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> That's one of the reasons - although not the main one - why
>>> Flashblock is such a popular Firefox addon.
>>> 
>>> (The main reason, I imagine, is that Flash advertising is so much
>>> more annoying than other forms of advertising.)
>>> 
>> 
>> For similar reasons, I use NoScript http://noscript dot net/
>> 
>> 
> Oh boy! This is a goody.
> 
> Thank you very much!!
> 
AOL. I've just donated most of my PayPal balance to the developers. This
is one of the best Firefox extensions I've ever seen.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at pmoylan dot org
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org

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