Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1544
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:01:49 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Wednesday 05 September 2007
 Number  1544
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  OS/2, XP, AIX Networking issues : brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au
2   Make Cd fom iso : Peter A Jenkins <ecom_pp at internode.on dot net>
3   Laptop : Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
4  Re:  Laptop : Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
5  Re:  Make Cd fom iso : Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
6  Re:  Laptop : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
7  Re:  Laptop : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
8  Re:  Laptop : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  Re:  Laptop : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
10  Re:  Make Cd fom iso : Peter A Jenkins <peter.a.jenkins at internode.on dot net>
11  Re:  Laptop : Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
12  Re:  Make Cd fom iso : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
13  Re:  Laptop : Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
14  Re:  Laptop : Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
15  Re:  Make Cd fom iso : Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
16  Re:  Laptop : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
17   Make Cd fom iso : Peter A Jenkins <peter.a.jenkins at internode.on dot net>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:06:47 +0930
From:  brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au
Subject:  Re:  OS/2, XP, AIX Networking issues

Chris,
I am running the LAN here with TCPBEUI so I may
be able to help.

I ran into numerous problems when I dumped
netbios.

The servers here are WSEB and the workstations
are Win2K and XP.

There are a couple of minor points that are not
well documented.

Firstly the host names in the RFCBCAST.LST file
need to be in upper case.

You will need to execute the "mapname.exe" program,
found in C:\mptn\appletts directory, to generate netbios
names from the server hostname.

There are two or three variations of the netbios name
that need generating, depending on whether the server
is a PDC or not.

These generated names need to be added to your
named.dom file for your DNS as CNAME records.

I had no luck getting TCPBEUI and NETBIOS to
coexist on my WSEB machines.

Had to completely remove NETBIOS and use
only TCPBEUI and TCPIP.

There are also specific entries needed in the LMHOSTS
files on the Windows clients.

I have not made any of this work with DHCP, I use a static
DNS system here as its small enough to manage.

As for your AIX, I have a mixed OS LAN at home.

I run NFS and LPD servers on my OS/2 server
and am able to mount the NFS shares and connect to the
printers with my Linux machine.

As a result I have never had need to play with Samba
as a server or client.

The GIU network browser in Windows is flakey at best
and seems to refuse to play if it can't find a Windows server.

The command line NET commands do work properly though.

You must tell the Windows clients that they are in a workgroup,
NOT a domain.

Just give the workgroup the same name as your domain.

This is needed as Windows refuses to join a domain unless
the PDC is a Windows server.

This does change the logon behaviour of the WIndows machines,
they don't start home drive shares on the OS/2 servers and store
the user profiles on the server.

The only way to overcome this limitation is to use the Servolution
logon client.

he IBM logon client stopped working after Windows NT 4 and
I have not found and recent updates to it and doubt there ever
will be.

This product works well but is pricey and has a minimum of
fifty user licences

I can give you more specific details off list if you wish.
-----------------------------------------
Brian Butler
System Administrator
brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au

                                                                                                                                             
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Hi All,
             I've got a number of networking issues that I simply can not
solve.
So, I'm asking for help.

             Because XP's implementation of NetBIOS is so slow, and
obviously
pure NetBIOS will not work with Samba, I'm slowly trying to move my
networking protocols across to a pure NetBIOS over TCP/IP (ie TCPBeui).

             Firstly, let me describe the setup:

             A public C class address block (203.27.78.0), all machines sit
in
this block, behind a firewall.

             The primary internet server is inet.

             inet        OS/2 WSeB 4.50          203.27.78.4, and also
aliased as
..5, .6 and .7.
             Has netbios only. Was the primary domain controller, but is
now the
backup to main. If I add TCPBEUI I get kernet traps... :-(

             The secondary (for most things) is main.

             main        OS/2 WSeB 4.52          203.27.78.129 and also
aliased as
..40
             Has netbios and tcpbeui. This is now listed as the primary
domain
controller.

             The first XP box, the wife's box (KATENEW) is DHCP assigned
and is
ok. It has tcpbeui and netbios.

             The new XP box (is the one that has all of the problems) is
DEV.
Only has the standard XP tcpbeui (I've not added the XP Netbios protocol to
it, and I'm trying to avoid doing so).

             I have the BROWSER service running on MAIN, so I don't need to
modify the XP box's registeries to modify the LMAnnounce setting.

             KATENEW shows up in NET VIEW commands (DEV does not). However,
from
MAIN, I can specifically view DEV's resources and NET USE them.

[C:\]net view
Server Name
Remark
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

---
\\INET                 Internet Machine
\\KATENEW
\\MAIN                 Main Machine - Backup Domain Controller
The command completed successfully.

[C:\]net view \\DEV
Shared resources at \\DEV
Chris's Dev Box

Netname      Type         Used as
Comment
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

---
C-DRIVE      Disk
SharedDocs   Disk
The command completed successfully.

             Why does DEV now show up in the browse lists???

             Also, and this is one of the most intriguing problems that
I've
got, is why does DEV report a lot of network path not found errors???

C:\>net view
System error 6118 has occurred.

The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available

C:\>net view
Server Name
Remark

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

---
\\DEV                  Chris's Dev Box
\\INET3                Samba 3.0.25a
\\KATENEW
\\MAIN                 Main Machine - Backup Domain Controller
The command completed successfully.

C:\>net view \\MAIN
System error 53 has occurred.

The network path was not found.

             I get spurious 6118 errors? Anyone have a clue as to why?

             I can not get DEV to see or use anything else on the network.
Why?

             Also, the more astute of you will see that there is an
additional
box in the list from DEV's perspective, namely INET3.

             INET3 is an AIX 5.3 box running Samba on it.

             Why do the OS/2 boxes not see it in the browser lists?

             MAIN can see the resources on INET3:

[C:\]net view \\INET3
Shared resources at \\INET3
Samba 3.0.25a

Netname      Type         Used as
Comment
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

---
test         Disk                  Public share
The command completed successfully.

             I have used the defaults of B-Node for TCPBEUI on MAIN. What
should
it be?

             It has been about 10 years since I've setup and used the
netbios
names list etc (RFCNAMES.LST), and I've forgotten it all.

             I've asked a lot of questions here, and hopefully someone can
help
me by starting at one and we'll work through them all.

             Help!

             Thanks to anyone that can.

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029,
AUSTRALIA

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:26:20 +0930
From:  Peter A Jenkins <ecom_pp at internode.on dot net>
Subject:   Make Cd fom iso

Why is this so hard ? or is it just me, ever time I go to make a 
bootable/installable cd from an iso file, ie: :ecsrc20_cd1_en.iso" using 
cd record under ecs 1.2, I can never find the instructions in "help" or 
on the net. I know, I must write it down in my note book! :-[
Can some one please tell me where in cd record I need to change a setting ?
Is there a site dealing with "how toos" for ecs/os2 somewhere out there?
TIA Peter  at  Port Pirie

-- 

May your moccasins leave tracks, on many mounds of worth, and walk with chiefs of every tribe who live in peace on earth.

Peter A  Jenkins
(AKA grandad or pj)
Port Pirie South Australia
PROUD USER OF A VIRUS & MALWARE FREE OPERATING SYSTEM
Serenity Systems "Ecomstation" ver 1.2, the successor to IBM's os/2
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:10:36 +0930
From:  Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
Subject:   Laptop

Hi Gang,

My job involves some travel interstate for meetings, and while I have a 
DT at work, when away I borrow a shared LT from the IT Dept.

The best one is an IBM Thinkpad T21-2647. It has a P3 750 with 128Mb of 
RAM trying to run W2000. It is a slug. Our IT Dept have no intent to 
update or of making wireless connectivity available for use when I'm 
away. All our PC's are locked out of being able to do anything but use 
the given apps - even the LT's. We can't defrag or even get a 
command-line box.

In fact at one meeting, one of the attendees even asked what dump I got 
the laptop from. :'(         
Not far from the truth actually as it won't run more than a few minutes 
without the power supply attached. I wasn't too popular when the power 
supply slipped out of the bag and was left on the aircraft once. I 
managed to get it back though. The battery falls out if its held 
incorrectly. I could leave it anywhere, it wouldn't get stolen.

Hence I've been thinking about getting my own via salary-sacrifice. 
Therefore, I beg the question of what might be a suitable LT than will 
be eCS friendly. I'm not after anything 'fancy', but wireless would be 
handy as Standards Australia have a network available for use while at 
their meetings. Whether eCS would see it could also be another question.

Great full for any advice.

Cheers,

Leigh Bunting
Colonel Light Gardens
South Australia
<Open Windows and let the bugs in>

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:06:51 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

Leigh Bunting wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> My job involves some travel interstate for meetings, and while I have 
> a DT at work, when away I borrow a shared LT from the IT Dept.
>
> The best one is an IBM Thinkpad T21-2647. It has a P3 750 with 128Mb 
> of RAM trying to run W2000. It is a slug. Our IT Dept have no intent 
> to update or of making wireless connectivity available for use when 
> I'm away. All our PC's are locked out of being able to do anything but 
> use the given apps - even the LT's. We can't defrag or even get a 
> command-line box.
>
> In fact at one meeting, one of the attendees even asked what dump I 
> got the laptop from. :'(         Not far from the truth actually as it 
> won't run more than a few minutes without the power supply attached. I 
> wasn't too popular when the power supply slipped out of the bag and 
> was left on the aircraft once. I managed to get it back though. The 
> battery falls out if its held incorrectly. I could leave it anywhere, 
> it wouldn't get stolen.
>
> Hence I've been thinking about getting my own via salary-sacrifice. 
> Therefore, I beg the question of what might be a suitable LT than will 
> be eCS friendly. I'm not after anything 'fancy', but wireless would be 
> handy as Standards Australia have a network available for use while at 
> their meetings. Whether eCS would see it could also be another question.
>
> Great full for any advice.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Leigh Bunting
> Colonel Light Gardens
> South Australia
> <Open Windows and let the bugs in>

>
 
>
> 
> ===========================================
Anything up to a T40 with an Intel 2200BG Mini-PCI WiFi card in it (of 
course a model that has the antenna built in for the card).

T21 (if you get one in a lot better condition than the one you refer to) 
would not be a bad choice actually !

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:08:45 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Make Cd fom iso

Peter A Jenkins wrote:
> Why is this so hard ? or is it just me, ever time I go to make a 
> bootable/installable cd from an iso file, ie: :ecsrc20_cd1_en.iso" 
> using cd record under ecs 1.2, I can never find the instructions in 
> "help" or on the net. I know, I must write it down in my note book! :-[
> Can some one please tell me where in cd record I need to change a 
> setting ?
> Is there a site dealing with "how toos" for ecs/os2 somewhere out there?
> TIA Peter  at  Port Pirie
>
Get and install Audio-CD-Creator. It uses CDRECORD behind a WPS 
integrated front end (folder type) and has VERY GOOD help documentation.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:18:59 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

<quote who="Leigh Bunting">

> The best one is an IBM Thinkpad T21-2647. It has a P3 750 with 128Mb of
> RAM trying to run W2000. It is a slug. Our IT Dept have no intent to

fwiw, I just received a T20 with 256 W2K;

I reformatted with XP, and, actually, I have to say, it runs quite well,
being a P3 and 256MB

mind you, I'm sure if I installed Office or something else, it would be
sluggisher and sluggisher, but, an out of the box XP install runs quite
well;
lot better than I expected.

I might even try installing OS/2 on it

come to think of it, I still have hard drives from my TP750 (170MB
WarpConnect) and TP770 (8GB W4), but, these are too thick to fit...

hhmmmm, I wonder if I can extend the IDE hard disk cable....?

anyone tried that..?

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:25:03 +0000
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Leigh Bunting wrote:
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> My job involves some travel interstate for meetings, and while I have 
>> a DT at work, when away I borrow a shared LT from the IT Dept.
>>
>> The best one is an IBM Thinkpad T21-2647. It has a P3 750 with 128Mb 
>> of RAM trying to run W2000. It is a slug. Our IT Dept have no intent 
>> to update or of making wireless connectivity available for use when 
>> I'm away. All our PC's are locked out of being able to do anything but 
>> use the given apps - even the LT's. We can't defrag or even get a 
>> command-line box.
>>
>> In fact at one meeting, one of the attendees even asked what dump I 
>> got the laptop from. :'(         Not far from the truth actually as it 
>> won't run more than a few minutes without the power supply attached. I 
>> wasn't too popular when the power supply slipped out of the bag and 
>> was left on the aircraft once. I managed to get it back though. The 
>> battery falls out if its held incorrectly. I could leave it anywhere, 
>> it wouldn't get stolen.
>>
>> Hence I've been thinking about getting my own via salary-sacrifice. 
>> Therefore, I beg the question of what might be a suitable LT than will 
>> be eCS friendly. I'm not after anything 'fancy', but wireless would be 
>> handy as Standards Australia have a network available for use while at 
>> their meetings. Whether eCS would see it could also be another question.
>>
>> Great full for any advice.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Leigh Bunting
>> Colonel Light Gardens
>> South Australia
>> <Open Windows and let the bugs in>

>>
> 
>>
>> 
>> ===========================================
> Anything up to a T40 with an Intel 2200BG Mini-PCI WiFi card in it (of 
> course a model that has the antenna built in for the card).
> 
> T21 (if you get one in a lot better condition than the one you refer to) 
> would not be a bad choice actually !
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.
 
> 
> 

> 

IBM T42 laptops are available for $500 USD or less, not including the 
one I am typing on here in Sudan.  I have even let some of the little 
guys in the pictures on my web site touch it.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis and Gloria Clift
Harvesters Reaching the Nations, Yei, Sudan
http://www.hrtn dot org/
http://www.calvarychapel dot org/eastmountain/
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the 
renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and 
acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:27:41 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

<quote who="Ed Durrant">

>>
> Anything up to a T40 with an Intel 2200BG Mini-PCI WiFi card in it (of
> course a model that has the antenna built in for the card).
>
> T21 (if you get one in a lot better condition than the one you refer to)
> would not be a bad choice actually !

Ed,

I just got this T20 with 256MB, it seems OS/2 is supported on it, what
sort of WiFi could I get for it ?

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:36:58 +1000 (EST)
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:10:36 +0930, Leigh Bunting wrote:

>
>My job involves some travel interstate for meetings, and while I have a 
>DT at work, when away I borrow a shared LT from the IT Dept.
>
>The best one is an IBM Thinkpad T21-2647. It has a P3 750 with 128Mb of 
>RAM trying to run W2000. It is a slug. Our IT Dept have no intent to 
>update or of making wireless connectivity available for use when I'm 
>away. All our PC's are locked out of being able to do anything but use 
>the given apps - even the LT's. We can't defrag or even get a 
>command-line box.
>
>In fact at one meeting, one of the attendees even asked what dump I got 
>the laptop from. :'(         
>Not far from the truth actually as it won't run more than a few minutes 
>without the power supply attached. I wasn't too popular when the power 
>supply slipped out of the bag and was left on the aircraft once. I 
>managed to get it back though. The battery falls out if its held 
>incorrectly. I could leave it anywhere, it wouldn't get stolen.
>
>Hence I've been thinking about getting my own via salary-sacrifice. 
>Therefore, I beg the question of what might be a suitable LT than will 
>be eCS friendly. I'm not after anything 'fancy', but wireless would be 
>handy as Standards Australia have a network available for use while at 
>their meetings. Whether eCS would see it could also be another question.

Leigh,

I have just ordered a new laptop for myself (love that
salary-sacrifice) and I have to admit I didn't even try to find one
that was OS/2 compatible.  I need something with enough grunt so that I
can use to work from home when needed. 

Your best bet might be a second-hand Thinkpad.  T4x series had lots of
reports that they worked.  Though some specific models didn't.  

For new machines, I think there was some discussion on OS/2 World about
the T60.  I can't remember the conclusion about this.  I can't remember
seeing any discussion about other laptops for a long time.  There might
be some discussion on the newsgroups, but I haven't been following
them.  

That probably isn't much help, and Ed has beaten me to telling you
about the T40s (lovely machine, I had one from work last year - with XP
on it).  
--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:11:23 +0930
From:  Peter A Jenkins <peter.a.jenkins at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Make Cd fom iso

Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
> Get and install Audio-CD-Creator. It uses CDRECORD behind a WPS 
> integrated front end (folder type) and has VERY GOOD help documentation.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
Yes Ed, I do have that, I know it is only one tick some where, but 
where? I did do ecs 2.0 rc1 & had to take the tick out to do a data cd, 
but I can not find where to put the tick back in to make the install cd 
from the 2.0 rc2 iso file, and I can not find info in the help files.
Thank for answering
Peter

-- 

May your moccasins leave tracks, on many mounds of worth, and walk with chiefs of every tribe who live in peace on earth.

Peter A  Jenkins
(AKA grandad or pj)
Port Pirie South Australia
PROUD USER OF A VIRUS & MALWARE FREE OPERATING SYSTEM
Serenity Systems "Ecomstation" ver 1.2, the successor to IBM's os/2
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:51:10 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Leigh Bunting">
>
>   
>> The best one is an IBM Thinkpad T21-2647. It has a P3 750 with 128Mb of
>> RAM trying to run W2000. It is a slug. Our IT Dept have no intent to
>>     
>
> fwiw, I just received a T20 with 256 W2K;
>
> I reformatted with XP, and, actually, I have to say, it runs quite well,
> being a P3 and 256MB
>
> mind you, I'm sure if I installed Office or something else, it would be
> sluggisher and sluggisher, but, an out of the box XP install runs quite
> well;
> lot better than I expected.
>
> I might even try installing OS/2 on it
>
> come to think of it, I still have hard drives from my TP750 (170MB
> WarpConnect) and TP770 (8GB W4), but, these are too thick to fit...
>
> hhmmmm, I wonder if I can extend the IDE hard disk cable....?
>
> anyone tried that..?
>
>
>
>
>   
You could put those drives in an external USB HD box, but whether the 
T20 can boot from USB HD, I don't know. Probably only USB v1 so it'd be 
awefully slow !

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:53:49 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Make Cd fom iso

Peter A Jenkins wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>
>> Get and install Audio-CD-Creator. It uses CDRECORD behind a WPS 
>> integrated front end (folder type) and has VERY GOOD help documentation.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> Yes Ed, I do have that, I know it is only one tick some where, but 
> where? I did do ecs 2.0 rc1 & had to take the tick out to do a data 
> cd, but I can not find where to put the tick back in to make the 
> install cd from the 2.0 rc2 iso file, and I can not find info in the 
> help files.
> Thank for answering
> Peter
>
Hi Peter,

It's so much simpler with RSJ - just drop the .iso onto the open 
CD-recorder window [icon is called "CD View" in RSJ desktop folder] and 
click the record button, and when finished click the finalize button and 
eject it, exactly the same procedure to record music tracks etc.

Regards,
Mike
(who has also burned CDs with CDRecord)
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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:00:25 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>
>   
>> Anything up to a T40 with an Intel 2200BG Mini-PCI WiFi card in it (of
>> course a model that has the antenna built in for the card).
>>
>> T21 (if you get one in a lot better condition than the one you refer to)
>> would not be a bad choice actually !
>>     
>
> Ed,
>
> I just got this T20 with 256MB, it seems OS/2 is supported on it, what
> sort of WiFi could I get for it ?
>
>
>
>   
Check if it has a mini-PCI socket underneath (take off the panel). Make 
sure there are two cables there (these are the antenna - if fitted - 
that sit up the sides of the LCD screen).

Then you have a choice if you are happy with 802.11B (11mb/s) then you 
could install one of the supported CISCO 340 or 350 cards and load 
native OS/2 drivers for it. If you need 54Mb/s (and hence compatibility 
with most hot spots today), you have to go to a card that is supported 
by the Genmac wrapper driver. This uses the windows driver and wraps 
OS/2 NDIS support around it. It's tricky to set up and I recommend an 
Intel 2200BG card - here's Mark Dodel's article on it:

http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_4.html

and then my follow-up article:

http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0207H/feature_5.html

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:04:20 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

David Forrester wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:10:36 +0930, Leigh Bunting wrote:
>
>   
>> My job involves some travel interstate for meetings, and while I have a 
>> DT at work, when away I borrow a shared LT from the IT Dept.
>>
>> The best one is an IBM Thinkpad T21-2647. It has a P3 750 with 128Mb of 
>> RAM trying to run W2000. It is a slug. Our IT Dept have no intent to 
>> update or of making wireless connectivity available for use when I'm 
>> away. All our PC's are locked out of being able to do anything but use 
>> the given apps - even the LT's. We can't defrag or even get a 
>> command-line box.
>>
>> In fact at one meeting, one of the attendees even asked what dump I got 
>> the laptop from. :'(         
>> Not far from the truth actually as it won't run more than a few minutes 
>> without the power supply attached. I wasn't too popular when the power 
>> supply slipped out of the bag and was left on the aircraft once. I 
>> managed to get it back though. The battery falls out if its held 
>> incorrectly. I could leave it anywhere, it wouldn't get stolen.
>>
>> Hence I've been thinking about getting my own via salary-sacrifice. 
>> Therefore, I beg the question of what might be a suitable LT than will 
>> be eCS friendly. I'm not after anything 'fancy', but wireless would be 
>> handy as Standards Australia have a network available for use while at 
>> their meetings. Whether eCS would see it could also be another question.
>>     
>
> Leigh,
>
> I have just ordered a new laptop for myself (love that
> salary-sacrifice) and I have to admit I didn't even try to find one
> that was OS/2 compatible.  I need something with enough grunt so that I
> can use to work from home when needed. 
>
> Your best bet might be a second-hand Thinkpad.  T4x series had lots of
> reports that they worked.  Though some specific models didn't.  
>
> For new machines, I think there was some discussion on OS/2 World about
> the T60.  I can't remember the conclusion about this.  I can't remember
> seeing any discussion about other laptops for a long time.  There might
> be some discussion on the newsgroups, but I haven't been following
> them.  
>
> That probably isn't much help, and Ed has beaten me to telling you
> about the T40s (lovely machine, I had one from work last year - with XP
> on it).  
> --
> David Forrester
> davidfor at internode.on dot net
> http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/
>

>  

>
>   
DONT GO FOR THE T60 ! - or in fact any Lenovo built Thinkpad - they're 
too much trouble !

If you can't get a suitable Thinkpad - look at the Acer range but as 
always check out all of the chipsets involved. If you are going to buy 
from a shop where you can try the system, download the eCS 1.2 demo CD 
ISO from www.ecomstation dot com , burn it to a CD and take it with you and 
see if the system will boot from it. If not - forget it. If it boots OK, 
at least the main components are supportable however video and network 
may not be fully supported still.

Cheers/2
Ed.

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Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:08:24 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at virginbroadband dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Make Cd fom iso

Peter A Jenkins wrote:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>>
>> Get and install Audio-CD-Creator. It uses CDRECORD behind a WPS 
>> integrated front end (folder type) and has VERY GOOD help documentation.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> Yes Ed, I do have that, I know it is only one tick some where, but 
> where? I did do ecs 2.0 rc1 & had to take the tick out to do a data 
> cd, but I can not find where to put the tick back in to make the 
> install cd from the 2.0 rc2 iso file, and I can not find info in the 
> help files.
> Thank for answering
> Peter
>
If you have this installed, go to the templates folder and drag the 
create-data-CD template into a folder in the Drives - say the root of C:

Go to this folder and open it. Go through the configuration as described 
in the help files.

Now simply browse to the already downloaded ISO file so that its name 
appears in the imagename box. Click the Write Only option in the 
creation section and unclick test only if it is set, put in a blank CD-R 
and hit Write CD.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:13:03 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Laptop

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>> <quote who="Ed Durrant">

> Check if it has a mini-PCI socket underneath (take off the panel). Make
> sure there are two cables there (these are the antenna - if fitted - that
> sit up the sides of the LCD screen).

it has something in it, I'm guessing a modem ?

>
> Then you have a choice if you are happy with 802.11B (11mb/s) then you
> could install one of the supported CISCO 340 or 350 cards and load native
> OS/2 drivers for it. If you need 54Mb/s (and hence compatibility
> with most hot spots today), you have to go to a card that is supported by
> the Genmac wrapper driver. This uses the windows driver and wraps OS/2
> NDIS support around it. It's tricky to set up and I recommend an
> Intel 2200BG card - here's Mark Dodel's article on it:
>
>
> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_4.html
>
>
> and then my follow-up article:
>
> http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0207H/feature_5.html

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:23:53 +0930
From:  Peter A Jenkins <peter.a.jenkins at internode.on dot net>
Subject:   Make Cd fom iso

Ed Durrant wrote:
>
> Now simply browse to the already downloaded ISO file so that its name 
> appears in the imagename box. Click the Write Only 
Thank you, simple when you know how, have now written this in my note 
book under "I"
for iso, thanks again
Peter

-- 

May your moccasins leave tracks, on many mounds of worth, and walk with chiefs of every tribe who live in peace on earth.

Peter A  Jenkins
(AKA grandad or pj)
Port Pirie South Australia
PROUD USER OF A VIRUS & MALWARE FREE OPERATING SYSTEM
Serenity Systems "Ecomstation" ver 1.2, the successor to IBM's os/2
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