Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1474
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 00:01:10 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 07 April 2007
 Number  1474
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Dennis Nolan <djn at aanet dot com dot au>
3  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
5  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
7  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
8  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
9  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 07:32:35 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> This is using the latest ipluginw.dll that I can find.
>>>>
>>> Your ipluginw.dll is OK, so you do have a dll conflict at another 
>>> level.
>>>
>>>
>> I have now completely wiped all traces of FF, SM and TB from my PC. 
> Hope so.
>> Re-installed Seamonkey from scratch. Re-installed the IPLUGINW XPI, 
>> re install flash and when I go to http://www.ecomstation dot com - the 
>> browser closes and leave the usual failure message in the plugins 
>> directory.
>>
>> Fri Apr  6 20:40:52 2007
>> ---[Exception Information]------------
>>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>>   Exception Address = 1788d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#3792) obj #0:0017d5f3
>>   
> http://www.ecomstation dot com doesn't use (of course) flash at all.
>
> Now tell me, where does the entry:
>
> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=
>
> point to?
>
> If there is no such entry, plugins are supposed to be in the \plugins 
> directory of course.
>
> Suggest you remove all plugin files (after a backup) and reboot.
>
> With no plugin files at all there shouldn't be any problem. If the 
> problem persist, then we will be absolutely sure the FF/TB/SM and 
> plugin dll files are scattered all over your libpath.
>
>
First of all - thanks for your patience and help Kris - this shouldn't 
be this difficult and I'm sure at the end of the day it's going to turn 
out to be something stupid !

Plugin directory is set to SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=F:\INTERNET\SEAMONKEY\PLUGINS
 
Removing the flash related files from the Plugin directory the abort 
does not occur, SM displays the jigsaw puzzle icon where the flash 
content is, which when clicked you are asked if you wish to find the 
required plugin, if you try it comes back and says it can't find one of 
course.

www.ecomstation dot com does use flash for the bouncing CDs advertising the 
demo download CD I think.

I am trying to install Flash 7 at present. Should I try to install Flash 
5 and see if I get a similar problem then ?

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 07:54:19 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <djn at aanet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Have you got rid of the default mozilla installation

Also get rid of references to Mozilla in the config.sys.

Also get rid of any references to Mozilla and the default browser from 
the os2 and os2sys ini files.

Regards
Dennis.

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>
>> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>
>>> So now I have a clean install, unfortunately when I go to (for 
>>> example) youtube - the browaer aborts with the following in the 
>>> except.log file in the plugins directory.
>>>
>> Youtube is a dog anyway...
>>
>>> Fri Apr  6 07:46:18 2007
>>> ---[Exception Information]------------
>>>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>>>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>>>   Exception Address = 1773d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#4041) obj #0:0017d5f3
>>>   Thread:  Ordinal TID: 66, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h
>>>   Process: PID: 80, Parent: 22, Status: 16
>>>   SS:ESP=0053:0016e6dc  EFLAGS=00012246
>>>   CS:EIP=005b:1773d5f3  EBP   =325f4c48
>>>   EAX=0296fd70 EBX=0296fca0 ESI=00000000
>>>   ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0296f5f4
>>>   DS=0053      ES=00000053  FS=15df     GS=0000
>>> ---[End Of Exception Information]-----
>>>
>>> This is using the latest ipluginw.dll that I can find.
>>>
>> Your ipluginw.dll is OK, so you do have a dll conflict at another level.
>>
>>
> I have now completely wiped all traces of FF, SM and TB from my PC. 
> Re-installed Seamonkey from scratch. Re-installed the IPLUGINW XPI, re 
> install flash and when I go to http://www.ecomstation dot com - the 
> browser closes and leave the usual failure message in the plugins 
> directory.
>
> Fri Apr  6 20:40:52 2007
> ---[Exception Information]------------
>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>   Exception Address = 1788d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#3792) obj #0:0017d5f3
>   Thread:  Ordinal TID: 57, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h
>   Process: PID: 76, Parent: 22, Status: 16
>   SS:ESP=0053:0016e6dc  EFLAGS=00012246
>   CS:EIP=005b:1788d5f3  EBP   =325f4c48
>   EAX=0297fd70 EBX=0297fca0 ESI=00000000
>   ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0297f5f4
>   DS=0053      ES=00000053  FS=15af     GS=0000
> ---[End Of Exception Information]-----
>
>
> I'm getting to think that there must be something corrupt in os2.ini 
> causing this issue.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:03:02 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Yes - done all of that. Also removed all references in the DAT files 
aswell (via REGEDIT2),

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dennis Nolan wrote:
> Have you got rid of the default mozilla installation
>
> Also get rid of references to Mozilla in the config.sys.
>
> Also get rid of any references to Mozilla and the default browser from 
> the os2 and os2sys ini files.
>
> Regards
> Dennis.
>
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> So now I have a clean install, unfortunately when I go to (for 
>>>> example) youtube - the browaer aborts with the following in the 
>>>> except.log file in the plugins directory.
>>>>
>>> Youtube is a dog anyway...
>>>
>>>> Fri Apr  6 07:46:18 2007
>>>> ---[Exception Information]------------
>>>>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>>>>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>>>>   Exception Address = 1773d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#4041) obj #0:0017d5f3
>>>>   Thread:  Ordinal TID: 66, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h
>>>>   Process: PID: 80, Parent: 22, Status: 16
>>>>   SS:ESP=0053:0016e6dc  EFLAGS=00012246
>>>>   CS:EIP=005b:1773d5f3  EBP   =325f4c48
>>>>   EAX=0296fd70 EBX=0296fca0 ESI=00000000
>>>>   ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0296f5f4
>>>>   DS=0053      ES=00000053  FS=15df     GS=0000
>>>> ---[End Of Exception Information]-----
>>>>
>>>> This is using the latest ipluginw.dll that I can find.
>>>>
>>> Your ipluginw.dll is OK, so you do have a dll conflict at another 
>>> level.
>>>
>>>
>> I have now completely wiped all traces of FF, SM and TB from my PC. 
>> Re-installed Seamonkey from scratch. Re-installed the IPLUGINW XPI, 
>> re install flash and when I go to http://www.ecomstation dot com - the 
>> browser closes and leave the usual failure message in the plugins 
>> directory.
>>
>> Fri Apr  6 20:40:52 2007
>> ---[Exception Information]------------
>>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>>   Exception Address = 1788d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#3792) obj #0:0017d5f3
>>   Thread:  Ordinal TID: 57, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h
>>   Process: PID: 76, Parent: 22, Status: 16
>>   SS:ESP=0053:0016e6dc  EFLAGS=00012246
>>   CS:EIP=005b:1788d5f3  EBP   =325f4c48
>>   EAX=0297fd70 EBX=0297fca0 ESI=00000000
>>   ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0297f5f4
>>   DS=0053      ES=00000053  FS=15af     GS=0000
>> ---[End Of Exception Information]-----
>>
>>
>> I'm getting to think that there must be something corrupt in os2.ini 
>> causing this issue.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
 
>
> 

>

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:44 -0600
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Dennis Nolan wrote:
> Have you got rid of the default mozilla installation
> 
> Also get rid of references to Mozilla in the config.sys.
> 
> Also get rid of any references to Mozilla and the default browser from 
> the os2 and os2sys ini files.
> 
> Regards
> Dennis.

 From my web site (see my sig line), you can download my little internet 
application integration tool,

http://www.7cities dot net/%7Emckinnis/code/iai1040.exe

that will set the proper values in os2.ini and install the run!.exe 
support as needed.

> 
> 
> Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
>> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> So now I have a clean install, unfortunately when I go to (for 
>>>> example) youtube - the browaer aborts with the following in the 
>>>> except.log file in the plugins directory.
>>>>
>>> Youtube is a dog anyway...
>>>
>>>> Fri Apr  6 07:46:18 2007
>>>> ---[Exception Information]------------
>>>>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>>>>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>>>>   Exception Address = 1773d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#4041) obj #0:0017d5f3
>>>>   Thread:  Ordinal TID: 66, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h
>>>>   Process: PID: 80, Parent: 22, Status: 16
>>>>   SS:ESP=0053:0016e6dc  EFLAGS=00012246
>>>>   CS:EIP=005b:1773d5f3  EBP   =325f4c48
>>>>   EAX=0296fd70 EBX=0296fca0 ESI=00000000
>>>>   ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0296f5f4
>>>>   DS=0053      ES=00000053  FS=15df     GS=0000
>>>> ---[End Of Exception Information]-----
>>>>
>>>> This is using the latest ipluginw.dll that I can find.
>>>>
>>> Your ipluginw.dll is OK, so you do have a dll conflict at another level.
>>>
>>>
>> I have now completely wiped all traces of FF, SM and TB from my PC. 
>> Re-installed Seamonkey from scratch. Re-installed the IPLUGINW XPI, re 
>> install flash and when I go to http://www.ecomstation dot com - the 
>> browser closes and leave the usual failure message in the plugins 
>> directory.
>>
>> Fri Apr  6 20:40:52 2007
>> ---[Exception Information]------------
>>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>>   Exception Address = 1788d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#3792) obj #0:0017d5f3
>>   Thread:  Ordinal TID: 57, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h
>>   Process: PID: 76, Parent: 22, Status: 16
>>   SS:ESP=0053:0016e6dc  EFLAGS=00012246
>>   CS:EIP=005b:1788d5f3  EBP   =325f4c48
>>   EAX=0297fd70 EBX=0297fca0 ESI=00000000
>>   ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0297f5f4
>>   DS=0053      ES=00000053  FS=15af     GS=0000
>> ---[End Of Exception Information]-----
>>
>>
>> I'm getting to think that there must be something corrupt in os2.ini 
>> causing this issue.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
 
> 
> 

> 
> 

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Covenant Solutions
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

Don't fight with ugly people; they have nothing to lose.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:42:46 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Hi Chuck, thanks for this - I already have your useful utility and have 
used it - unfortunately no change to the aborts from flashwin.dll.

Thanks anyway

Cheers/2

Ed.

Chuck McKinnis wrote:
>
>
> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>> Have you got rid of the default mozilla installation
>>
>> Also get rid of references to Mozilla in the config.sys.
>>
>> Also get rid of any references to Mozilla and the default browser 
>> from the os2 and os2sys ini files.
>>
>> Regards
>> Dennis.
>
> From my web site (see my sig line), you can download my little 
> internet application integration tool,
>
> http://www.7cities dot net/%7Emckinnis/code/iai1040.exe
>
> that will set the proper values in os2.ini and install the run!.exe 
> support as needed.
>
>>
>>
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> So now I have a clean install, unfortunately when I go to (for 
>>>>> example) youtube - the browaer aborts with the following in the 
>>>>> except.log file in the plugins directory.
>>>>>
>>>> Youtube is a dog anyway...
>>>>
>>>>> Fri Apr  6 07:46:18 2007
>>>>> ---[Exception Information]------------
>>>>>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>>>>>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>>>>>   Exception Address = 1773d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#4041) obj #0:0017d5f3
>>>>>   Thread:  Ordinal TID: 66, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h
>>>>>   Process: PID: 80, Parent: 22, Status: 16
>>>>>   SS:ESP=0053:0016e6dc  EFLAGS=00012246
>>>>>   CS:EIP=005b:1773d5f3  EBP   =325f4c48
>>>>>   EAX=0296fd70 EBX=0296fca0 ESI=00000000
>>>>>   ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0296f5f4
>>>>>   DS=0053      ES=00000053  FS=15df     GS=0000
>>>>> ---[End Of Exception Information]-----
>>>>>
>>>>> This is using the latest ipluginw.dll that I can find.
>>>>>
>>>> Your ipluginw.dll is OK, so you do have a dll conflict at another 
>>>> level.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I have now completely wiped all traces of FF, SM and TB from my PC. 
>>> Re-installed Seamonkey from scratch. Re-installed the IPLUGINW XPI, 
>>> re install flash and when I go to http://www.ecomstation dot com - the 
>>> browser closes and leave the usual failure message in the plugins 
>>> directory.
>>>
>>> Fri Apr  6 20:40:52 2007
>>> ---[Exception Information]------------
>>>   Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal)
>>>   Read Access at address 325f4c48h
>>>   Exception Address = 1788d5f3 <FLASHWIN> (#3792) obj #0:0017d5f3
>>>   Thread:  Ordinal TID: 57, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h
>>>   Process: PID: 76, Parent: 22, Status: 16
>>>   SS:ESP=0053:0016e6dc  EFLAGS=00012246
>>>   CS:EIP=005b:1788d5f3  EBP   =325f4c48
>>>   EAX=0297fd70 EBX=0297fca0 ESI=00000000
>>>   ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0297f5f4
>>>   DS=0053      ES=00000053  FS=15af     GS=0000
>>> ---[End Of Exception Information]-----
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm getting to think that there must be something corrupt in os2.ini 
>>> causing this issue.
>>>
>>> Cheers/2
>>>
>>> Ed.
 
>>>
>>> 

>>>
>>>
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
>
>

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:26:14 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>
> www.ecomstation dot com does use flash for the bouncing CDs advertising 
> the demo download CD I think.

You're right, they do.

The say the least, that IS a bit strange while promoting an os with poor 
flash suppoort.
>
> I am trying to install Flash 7 at present. Should I try to install 
> Flash 5 and see if I get a similar problem then ?
>
As it works here good with Flash 7.r61, that would  be useless  anyway.  
Sorry to say, but it looks very much to me the combination FF/TB  has 
jeorpadized your system ...  and it still are the conflicting dll files 
you should look after.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:36:05 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Ed Durrant ha scritto:

BTW: are you sure you are using the right flesh files? - I do recall there are some erratic archives floating around. 

Do try these:

http://www.taartenbakkerij.eu/bestanden/flesh714youtube.zip
http://www.taartenbakkerij.eu/bestanden/flesh768.zip

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:43:19 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>
>> www.ecomstation dot com does use flash for the bouncing CDs advertising 
>> the demo download CD I think.
>
> You're right, they do.
>
> The say the least, that IS a bit strange while promoting an os with 
> poor flash suppoort.
>>
>> I am trying to install Flash 7 at present. Should I try to install 
>> Flash 5 and see if I get a similar problem then ?
>>
> As it works here good with Flash 7.r61, that would  be useless  
> anyway.  Sorry to say, but it looks very much to me the combination 
> FF/TB  has jeorpadized your system ...  and it still are the 
> conflicting dll files you should look after.
>
Hi Kris, Ed,

The bouncing Cds on ecomstation dot com work fine here with Flash5 R67 here, 
in eCS V2.0 Beta4!

Regards,
Mike
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:34:51 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>
>> www.ecomstation dot com does use flash for the bouncing CDs advertising 
>> the demo download CD I think.
>
> You're right, they do.
>
> The say the least, that IS a bit strange while promoting an os with 
> poor flash suppoort.
>>
>> I am trying to install Flash 7 at present. Should I try to install 
>> Flash 5 and see if I get a similar problem then ?
>>
> As it works here good with Flash 7.r61, that would  be useless  
> anyway.  Sorry to say, but it looks very much to me the combination 
> FF/TB  has jeorpadized your system ...  and it still are the 
> conflicting dll files you should look after.
>
I definately agree with you Kris.

I want to avoid a total wipe and re-install just for a browser, but at 
the end of the day, that may be the only way to get to the bottom of this.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:37:31 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Seamonkey and Flash

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>
> BTW: are you sure you are using the right flesh files? - I do recall 
> there are some erratic archives floating around.
> Do try these:
>
> http://www.taartenbakkerij.eu/bestanden/flesh714youtube.zip
> http://www.taartenbakkerij.eu/bestanden/flesh768.zip
>
>
Thanks Kris, I have tried several versions - one of which I definately 
know worked with Firefox but I'll try these as we know these are working 
on your system.

There also appears to be different ipluginw.xpi files - I just tried a 
different one and it gave me a XPCOM error when I restarted SM.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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