Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1471
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:01:12 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Wednesday 04 April 2007
 Number  1471
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Subjects for today
 
1   Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc. : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2   [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc. : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
4  Re:  [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.] : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
5  Re:  [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.] : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
6  Re:  Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc. : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re:  [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
8  Re:  [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.] : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
9  Re:  eComStation compatible "all in one' motherboard : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
10  Re:  Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc. : Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:03:48 +0000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.

Does anyone know of a website or user manuals to describe  how to 
customise these programs.

I am switching to SeaMonkey from Firefox and Thunderbird and 
configuration is different.

In particular I want to add a "File" icon to the  Seamonkey mail client 
toolbar - on Thunderbird this is a simple option, but I simply cannot 
find a way to add objects in Seamonkey.

I'd also like a list of all command line parameters for each of the 
programs for use in batch files.

I expect this is all non-OS2 specific data, so it ought to be available 
somewhere. :-(

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:08:27 +0000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.]

OK, in the meantime, I found the setting of the icons in the toolbar:

edit / preferences / mail and newsgroups / select buttons you want to 
see in the toolbar.

Still would like a user manual anyway though for the command line 
switches (and the preference file setting possibilities)

Cheers/2

ED.

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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:16:22 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
> Does anyone know of a website or user manuals to describe  how to 
> customise these programs.
>
> I am switching to SeaMonkey from Firefox and Thunderbird and 
> configuration is different.
>
> In particular I want to add a "File" icon to the  Seamonkey mail 
> client toolbar 
Could you be a bit more specific? Never have had Tb, so I don't know 
exactly what you mean.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:31:16 -0600
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.]

Ed Durrant wrote:
> OK, in the meantime, I found the setting of the icons in the toolbar:
> 
> edit / preferences / mail and newsgroups / select buttons you want to 
> see in the toolbar.
> 
> Still would like a user manual anyway though for the command line 
> switches (and the preference file setting possibilities)
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> ED.
> 
> [attachments have been removed]
 
> 
> 

> 
> 

Try opening a command prompt in the Firefox (or Thunderbird) directory 
and issuing "firefox (or thunderbird) -h | more".

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Covenant Solutions
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

DUMB: Buying water that spells NAIVE backwards.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:43:51 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.]

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
> OK, in the meantime, I found the setting of the icons in the toolbar:
>
> edit / preferences / mail and newsgroups / select buttons you want to 
> see in the toolbar.
>
So you are happy ...
> Still would like a user manual anyway though for the command line 
> switches (and the preference file setting possibilities)
>
.... but alas I only can make you just a little bit more happy; the command like

seamonkey  -help > 1.txt

will pipe  the rather restricted amount of available command line options to the file 1.txt:

> Usage: C:\GARNAAL\SEAMONKEY.EXE [ options ... ] [URL] where options 
> include: -height <value> Set height of startup window to <value>. -h 
> or -help Print this message. -installer Start with 4.x migration 
> window. -width <value> Set width of startup window to <value>. -v or 
> -version Print C:\GARNAAL\SEAMONKEY.EXE version. -CreateProfile 
> <profile> Create <profile>. -P <profile> Start with <profile>. 
> -ProfileWizard Start with profile wizard. -ProfileManager Start with 
> profile manager. -SelectProfile Start with profile selection dialog. 
> -UILocale <locale> Start with <locale> resources as UI Loca 
> -contentLocale <locale> Start with <locale> resources as content 
> -console Start SeaMonkey with a debugging console. -nosplash Disable 
> splash screen. -quiet Disable splash screen.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:47:26 +0000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>> Does anyone know of a website or user manuals to describe  how to 
>> customise these programs.
>>
>> I am switching to SeaMonkey from Firefox and Thunderbird and 
>> configuration is different.
>>
>> In particular I want to add a "File" icon to the  Seamonkey mail 
>> client toolbar 
> Could you be a bit more specific? Never have had Tb, so I don't know 
> exactly what you mean.
>
As per my other e-mail - I found this setting in Preferences, however on 
Thunderbird, you simply RMB on the toolbar and select icons to add, 
rather than going into the general settings.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:49:55 +0000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.]

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>> OK, in the meantime, I found the setting of the icons in the toolbar:
>>
>> edit / preferences / mail and newsgroups / select buttons you want to 
>> see in the toolbar.
>>
> So you are happy ...
>> Still would like a user manual anyway though for the command line 
>> switches (and the preference file setting possibilities)
>>
> ... but alas I only can make you just a little bit more happy; the 
> command like
>
> seamonkey  -help > 1.txt
>
> will pipe  the rather restricted amount of available command line 
> options to the file 1.txt:
>
>> Usage: C:\GARNAAL\SEAMONKEY.EXE [ options ... ] [URL] where options 
>> include: -height <value> Set height of startup window to <value>. -h 
>> or -help Print this message. -installer Start with 4.x migration 
>> window. -width <value> Set width of startup window to <value>. -v or 
>> -version Print C:\GARNAAL\SEAMONKEY.EXE version. -CreateProfile 
>> <profile> Create <profile>. -P <profile> Start with <profile>. 
>> -ProfileWizard Start with profile wizard. -ProfileManager Start with 
>> profile manager. -SelectProfile Start with profile selection dialog. 
>> -UILocale <locale> Start with <locale> resources as UI Loca 
>> -contentLocale <locale> Start with <locale> resources as content 
>> -console Start SeaMonkey with a debugging console. -nosplash Disable 
>> splash screen. -quiet Disable splash screen.
>
Thanks Kris - Chuck gave a similar suggestion.

I'm surprised there's not a users manual, given the number of people who 
now use these programs across several platforms. Perhaps there's a 
"dummies Guide to Mozilla" book in the meantime ?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:45:15 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.]

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
> Thanks Kris - Chuck gave a similar suggestion.
>
> I'm surprised there's not a users manual, given the number of people 
> who now use these programs across several platforms. Perhaps there's a 
> "dummies Guide to Mozilla" book in the meantime ?
>
There is  a guide at

http://www.os2bbs dot com/os2news/Warpzilla.html

but it's more aimed at the knowledgeables I'm afraid.

Anyway, there is only one way to tweak SM properly at your wishes, and 
that's by editing the file prefs.js (as you can see at the link above).

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:40:45 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  eComStation compatible "all in one' motherboard

Michael/Gail Peters wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I'm not Ed of course, but just wondered why you don't instal the 
>> current eCS V2.o Beta4, which is much better than Beta3a?!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
> Mike,
>
> I am not a Software Subscription subscriber because of the
> digital delivery - until recently we were on satellite internet
> limited to 500mb per month ! Now we're on NextG ( much
> better ; expensive but fast ! ) with a 1Gb limit.Most of this we
> use up just doing everyday business. So, I'm on eCS 1.2 and
> expect to buy 2.0 when it is released. I have upgraded my
> computer in expectation.....
> Hope you're managing the strabismus.
>
> Mike
>
Hi Mike,

Strabismus could be a lot worse of course, but it's a PITH(ead)! I go 
back to see the specialist in another month's time.

I do now remember you mentioning the satellite service in the past. I 
was considering it before I went from dial-up to ISDN, but it was too 
expensive, as living in an urban area without either cable or (at that 
time) ADSL because of my distance from exchange, I wouldn't have been 
eligible for any of the Federal Govt.'s subsidies.

Let's hope it won't be too long before Version 2.0 GA is available. :-)

Regards,
Mike
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:17:15 +1000
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>> Does anyone know of a website or user manuals to describe  how to
>>>  customise these programs.
>>> 
>>> I am switching to SeaMonkey from Firefox and Thunderbird and 
>>> configuration is different.
>>> 
>>> In particular I want to add a "File" icon to the  Seamonkey mail
>>>  client toolbar
>> Could you be a bit more specific? Never have had Tb, so I don't
>> know exactly what you mean.
>> 
> As per my other e-mail - I found this setting in Preferences, however
> on Thunderbird, you simply RMB on the toolbar and select icons to
> add, rather than going into the general settings.

Could you let us know, once you're used to it, whether the switch was
worthwhile? The original aim of the Mozilla project, as I recall it, was
to get rid of all the "bloat" features of Netscape and go back to a pure
web browser, uncluttered by things like integrated mail and news and so
on. I guess the SeaMonkey project was motivated by the observation that
Firefox and Thunderbird ended up bloated anyway, so they might as well
be combined to avoid code duplication. Does SeaMonkey save a lot of disk
and main memory space over the combination of Thunderbird and Mozilla
running together? I must admit that I'm getting sick of the feature
bloat and would appreciate finding something more compact. It's reaching
the point where, even with a 400 MHz processor and 128MB of main memory,
I get frequent annoyances (especially with Thunderbird) where the
WPS just hangs for about 10-60 seconds, so I'm on the lookout for a
better solution.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at ozebelg dot org
                                       peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org

Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses.  The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer
receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses.  The optusnet
address could disappear at any time.
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