Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1436
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:02:00 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Wednesday 07 February 2007
 Number  1436
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
2   windoze remote control suggestions : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
3   ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
4  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
6  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
8  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
10  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
11  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
12  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
13  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
14  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
15  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
16  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
17  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
18  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
19  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>

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Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:05:09 +1100
From:  "Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
Subject:  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard.

Ed,
The scanner is a KTX V-Scan 2400 - a 24 bit colour flatbed scanner.
It came with a Win interface card but also had scsi ports for a Mac.and
most importantly a Mustek GA1502 chip. I went to a Mac shop and
bought an Apple scsi cable, scsi (ultrawide?) to DB25 and a gender bender. 
The
Adaptec card has the single DB25 port, the scanner has the gender bender
and regular scsi ( ultrawide?)port. I must say I had the surprise of my life 
when this thing fired up with the Impos/2 software - by trial and error I 
found the
chip married with the Microtek E2 driver. I can still remember the
moment!
So, what you are saying is the 2940Au board I am getting from Peter Allen
may not be the go. I'll have a look at it on the Adaptec site. What else is
there? A new cable...

Thanks,
Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
To: <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard.

> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>>>
>>>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Voytek - so what is needed is a Fast SCSI (10Mb/s) PCI adaptec 
>>>> card -
>>>> he doesn't need Bios boot as this is only to attach an external 
>>>> scanner.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps this 2906 is the equivalent in PCI:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.adaptec dot com/en-US/products/scsi_cards/entry/AVA-2906/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Need to check if it has OS/2 drivers of course - and check the 
>>>> connector
>>>> is correct for the existing cable.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2940 U/UW all work with OS/2 ( I use them), presumedly, all 29xx would 
>>> do...?
>>>
>>> with 2940xx something I'm running **all** three busses:
>>>
>>> internal narrow (CD), internal wide(HD), external(scanner)
>>> (which was not possible with earlier controllers)
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> And there are plenty of 2940U/UW models on eBay currently - or at least 
>> there were a day or so back, if Mike doesn't need it immediately.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>
>>
>> 
>
>>
> I think 2940U or UW are ultrawide connection ? - Michael needs a card with 
> a Fast-SCSI 10Mb/s interface - I suspect a DB25 connector ?
>
> It may be that he will have to buy a suitable cable and they can cost more 
> than the card ! I guess it'd be good to know what the Scanner is ?
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.

> 

> 

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Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:28:49 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:   windoze remote control suggestions

what do ppl use for remote access/control to windoze pcs ?

MS remote desktop ? VNC ? ?

does any of them allow like a 'one to many' gateway to LAN PCs behind NAT ?

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:29:40 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:   ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word

I have a following problem:

user receives a Word file in Outbreak, it opens, when 'print' is clicked,
the print dialogue comes hidden behind MSWord and the user decides 'it's
not working'

googling found similar issue for a FoxPro invoked Word/print, but, nothing
relevant as yet, if anyone has any suggestion...

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:46:22 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard.

 From what you say - I suspect all you may need is a different cable - I 
don't think the 2940 has a DB25 connector - so you will probably need a 
standard (ultrawide ?) cable with the same plug on each end - but wait 
unit the card arrives, or check at the Adaptec website.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Michael/Gail Peters wrote:
> Ed,
> The scanner is a KTX V-Scan 2400 - a 24 bit colour flatbed scanner.
> It came with a Win interface card but also had scsi ports for a Mac.and
> most importantly a Mustek GA1502 chip. I went to a Mac shop and
> bought an Apple scsi cable, scsi (ultrawide?) to DB25 and a gender 
> bender. The
> Adaptec card has the single DB25 port, the scanner has the gender bender
> and regular scsi ( ultrawide?)port. I must say I had the surprise of 
> my life when this thing fired up with the Impos/2 software - by trial 
> and error I found the
> chip married with the Microtek E2 driver. I can still remember the
> moment!
> So, what you are saying is the 2940Au board I am getting from Peter Allen
> may not be the go. I'll have a look at it on the Adaptec site. What 
> else is
> there? A new cable...
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
> To: <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard.
>
>
>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>>> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>>>>
>>>>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Voytek - so what is needed is a Fast SCSI (10Mb/s) PCI adaptec 
>>>>> card -
>>>>> he doesn't need Bios boot as this is only to attach an external 
>>>>> scanner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps this 2906 is the equivalent in PCI:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.adaptec dot com/en-US/products/scsi_cards/entry/AVA-2906/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Need to check if it has OS/2 drivers of course - and check the 
>>>>> connector
>>>>> is correct for the existing cable.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2940 U/UW all work with OS/2 ( I use them), presumedly, all 29xx 
>>>> would do...?
>>>>
>>>> with 2940xx something I'm running **all** three busses:
>>>>
>>>> internal narrow (CD), internal wide(HD), external(scanner)
>>>> (which was not possible with earlier controllers)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> And there are plenty of 2940U/UW models on eBay currently - or at 
>>> least there were a day or so back, if Mike doesn't need it immediately.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
 
>>>
>>>
>>> 

>>>
>> I think 2940U or UW are ultrawide connection ? - Michael needs a card 
>> with a Fast-SCSI 10Mb/s interface - I suspect a DB25 connector ?
>>
>> It may be that he will have to buy a suitable cable and they can cost 
>> more than the card ! I guess it'd be good to know what the Scanner is ?
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>
 
>
> 

>

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:49:25 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard.

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> From what you say - I suspect all you may need is a different cable - I
> don't think the 2940 has a DB25 connector - so you will probably need a
> standard (ultrawide ?) cable with the same plug on each end - but wait
> unit the card arrives, or check at the Adaptec website.

2940U has high density 50 pin;
2940W/UW has high density 68 pin;

if you have W, you need to terminate the high bits

you can get high density 50 pin to DB25;
you can get 68 to 50 converter

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:06:37 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> what do ppl use for remote access/control to windoze pcs ?
>
> MS remote desktop ? VNC ? ?
>
> does any of them allow like a 'one to many' gateway to LAN PCs behind NAT ?
>
>
>
>
>   
Ther are RDP clients for OS/2 but if I remember correctly they are 
X-Windows programs.

Installing VNC server on each of the Windoze boxes would probably be the 
simplest if this was behind a simple router, If you're using NAT you 
will have to hard-code the routes to each of the systems in the router. 
Given that you can chose which port to use for VNC - this could suit 
quite well as it would simplify the additional route configuration.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:07:38 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> what do ppl use for remote access/control to windoze pcs ?
>
> MS remote desktop ? VNC ? ?
>
> does any of them allow like a 'one to many' gateway to LAN PCs behind NAT ?
>
>
>
>
>   
Just had another thought - you could use PC-Anywhere on the PCs as (I 
think) it can be accessed via Web Browser - but again the NATting could 
create a problem for you.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:11:34 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> I have a following problem:
>
> user receives a Word file in Outbreak, it opens, when 'print' is clicked,
> the print dialogue comes hidden behind MSWord and the user decides 'it's
> not working'
>
> googling found similar issue for a FoxPro invoked Word/print, but, nothing
> relevant as yet, if anyone has any suggestion...
>
>   
Hi Voytek - sounds like a Windows problem - probably better posting to a 
windows list.

I've never come across this problem.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:19:00 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:

> Hi Voytek - sounds like a Windows problem - probably better posting to a
> windows list.

can you suggest a good windows list ?

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:22:13 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>> what do ppl use for remote access/control to windoze pcs ?
>>
>> MS remote desktop ? VNC ? ?
>>
>>
>> does any of them allow like a 'one to many' gateway to LAN PCs behind
>> NAT ?

> Just had another thought - you could use PC-Anywhere on the PCs as (I
> think) it can be accessed via Web Browser - but again the NATting could
> create a problem for you.

I think I might just try setting up RSM to do it

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:45:21 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>   
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>     
>
>   
>> Hi Voytek - sounds like a Windows problem - probably better posting to a
>> windows list.
>>     
>
>
> can you suggest a good windows list ?
>
>   
Sorry I don't frequent them, but yahoogroups dot com is always a good 
starting point.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:52:16 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard.

Michael/Gail Peters ha scritto:
> So, what you are saying is the 2940Au board I am getting from Peter Allen
> may not be the go. I'll have a look at it on the Adaptec site. What 
> else is
Guys, I'm afraid you are a bit drifting of. To the scanner it doesn't matter which scsi-card had been put in the slot. If the operating system recognnzes the scsi-card, the scanner will work, provided the scanning program (Impos/2, Tame/2  Twain/2)  suppors the scanner. Full-stop!

So, if you scanner worked with _some scsi-card+Impos/2_, it WIL WORK with an adaptec 2940QU + Impos/2.

I give you my money-back guarantee.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:56:08 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word

Voytek Eymont ha scritto:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>   
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>     
>
>   
>> Hi Voytek - sounds like a Windows problem - probably better posting to a
>> windows list.
>>     
>
>
> can you suggest a good windows list ?
>
>   
No, but I would suggest your user (I asuume) installs OOo version 2.03 
for Windy and opens the file that way. That would give him the 
oppertunity to look at better an alternative too.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:59:36 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> <quote who="Ed Durrant">
>   
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> what do ppl use for remote access/control to windoze pcs ?
>>>
>>> MS remote desktop ? VNC ? ?
>>>
>>>
>>> does any of them allow like a 'one to many' gateway to LAN PCs behind
>>> NAT ?
>>>       
>
>   
>> Just had another thought - you could use PC-Anywhere on the PCs as (I
>> think) it can be accessed via Web Browser - but again the NATting could
>> create a problem for you.
>>     
>
> I think I might just try setting up RSM to do it
>
>
>   

RSM ???

Ed.
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**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:12:40 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Michael/Gail Peters ha scritto:
>> So, what you are saying is the 2940Au board I am getting from Peter 
>> Allen
>> may not be the go. I'll have a look at it on the Adaptec site. What 
>> else is
> Guys, I'm afraid you are a bit drifting of. To the scanner it doesn't 
> matter which scsi-card had been put in the slot. If the operating 
> system recognnzes the scsi-card, the scanner will work, provided the 
> scanning program (Impos/2, Tame/2  Twain/2)  suppors the scanner. 
> Full-stop!
>
> So, if you scanner worked with _some scsi-card+Impos/2_, it WIL WORK 
> with an adaptec 2940QU + Impos/2.
>
> I give you my money-back guarantee.
>
>
I agree - as long as the cable fits.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:08:44 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:

> RSM ???

http://www.sbt dot net dot au/sbt/comsp.html

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:09:41 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word

<quote who="Ed Durrant">
> Voytek Eymont wrote:

>> can you suggest a good windows list ?
>>
>>
> Sorry I don't frequent them, but yahoogroups dot com is always a good
> starting point.

and google is good for searching

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   18 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:12:55 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ot: word print dialogue hidden behind word

<quote who="Kris Steenhaut">
> Voytek Eymont ha scritto:

> No, but I would suggest your user (I asuume) installs OOo version 2.03
> for Windy and opens the file that way. That would give him the oppertunity
> to look at better an alternative too.

is OOo still as big bloatware as it used to be last time I looked at it ?

not a good choice, the user just wants to type up stories, count how many
words they have, and, submit, not really interested in experimenting

thanks, anyhow

-- 
Voytek

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**= Email   19 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:47:36 +1100
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  windoze remote control suggestions

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:08:44 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>
><quote who="Ed Durrant">
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>> RSM ???
>
>http://www.sbt dot net dot au/sbt/comsp.html
>

You mentioned Remote Desktop before.  I have used properJavaRDP
<http://properjavardp.sourceforge dot net/> to control WinXP Pro and
Win2003 Server machines at home and work from OS/2.

--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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