Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1421
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Monday 15 January 2007
 Number  1421
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Subjects for today
 
1   OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
2  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
4  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
5  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
6  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
7  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
8  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
10   openwengo : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>

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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:42:12 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:   OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

Hi All,

Sun Is Giving Away Solaris 10 DVDs
from the what-is-this-free-you-speak-of dept.
posted by kdawson on Sunday January 14,  at 15:53 (Sun Microsystems)
http://it.slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=07/01/14/1941259

Regards,
Mike
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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:42:10 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Sun Is Giving Away Solaris 10 DVDs
> from the what-is-this-free-you-speak-of dept.
> posted by kdawson on Sunday January 14,  at 15:53 (Sun Microsystems)
> http://it.slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=07/01/14/1941259
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
 
> 
> 

> 
I believe it was also on the cover DVD of APC a few months back. Created 
the individual CD-Rs - tried to install on my test system - wouldn't 
work - failed with various errors - in effect saying don't try this is 
on hardware older than about 3 years.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:22:35 +0900
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10.  My suggestion is 
don't waste your time.  It's like Linux 10 years ago.  It might be 
stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get 
it installed.

Cheers
Kev

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Sun Is Giving Away Solaris 10 DVDs
>> from the what-is-this-free-you-speak-of dept.
>> posted by kdawson on Sunday January 14,  at 15:53 (Sun Microsystems)
>> http://it.slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=07/01/14/1941259
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
> I believe it was also on the cover DVD of APC a few months back. Created 
> the individual CD-Rs - tried to install on my test system - wouldn't 
> work - failed with various errors - in effect saying don't try this is 
> on hardware older than about 3 years.

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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:31:09 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Sun Is Giving Away Solaris 10 DVDs
>> from the what-is-this-free-you-speak-of dept.
>> posted by kdawson on Sunday January 14,  at 15:53 (Sun Microsystems)
>> http://it.slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=07/01/14/1941259
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
> I believe it was also on the cover DVD of APC a few months back. 
> Created the individual CD-Rs - tried to install on my test system - 
> wouldn't work - failed with various errors - in effect saying don't 
> try this is on hardware older than about 3 years.
>
> Cheers/2

Hi Ed,

Will keep that in mind when I get around to trying it.
Should be OK with HP dx5150 though!

Mike

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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

Hi Kev

>I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10.  My suggestion is 
>don't waste your time.  It's like Linux 10 years ago.  It might be 
>stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get 
>it installed.

I didnt have any problems, and the installer is quite slick.
Pentium III 650 with 1G RAM and a 20G harddisk plus ATI card with 128M ram.
Newest hardware was the 20Gb HD and ATI card I bought about 3 years
ago. I'd put it on a par with Linux a year ago :-)

A lot easier than OS/2 would be for a beginner :-|

Cheers
Ian Manners
Tech Fossil (Often  called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done
http://www.os2site dot com/

One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid."  -- J. D. Watson, THE DOUBLE HELIX
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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:59:12 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

Kev wrote:
> I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10.  My suggestion is 
> don't waste your time.  It's like Linux 10 years ago.  It might be 
> stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get 
> it installed.
>
> Cheers
> Kev
Hi Kev,

No problem -  I have installed a full SUN system and network from 
complete scratch a few times, whilst I was training with SUN at Griffith 
Uni in Brisbane in 1994 - whilst doing the Advanced SA's Course!

Regards,
Mike
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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:01:54 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

Ian Manners wrote:
> Hi Kev
>> I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10.  My suggestion is 
>> don't waste your time.  It's like Linux 10 years ago.  It might be 
>> stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get 
>> it installed.
> I didnt have any problems, and the installer is quite slick.
> Pentium III 650 with 1G RAM and a 20G harddisk plus ATI card with 128M ram.
> Newest hardware was the 20Gb HD and ATI card I bought about 3 years
> ago. I'd put it on a par with Linux a year ago :-)
>
> A lot easier than OS/2 would be for a beginner :-|
>
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
Hi Ian,

That's encouraging news!

Mike
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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:38:05 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

Ian Manners wrote:
> Hi Kev
> 
>> I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10.  My suggestion is 
>> don't waste your time.  It's like Linux 10 years ago.  It might be 
>> stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get 
>> it installed.
> 
> I didnt have any problems, and the installer is quite slick.
> Pentium III 650 with 1G RAM and a 20G harddisk plus ATI card with 128M ram.
> Newest hardware was the 20Gb HD and ATI card I bought about 3 years
> ago. I'd put it on a par with Linux a year ago :-)
> 
> A lot easier than OS/2 would be for a beginner :-|
> 
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
> Tech Fossil (Often  called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done
> http://www.os2site dot com/
> 
> 

This sounds like a real case of YMMV - my (quite similar) configuration, 
was a PIII 500, 768MB RAM and 40GB harddisk - nothing fancy !

I tried about 5 time to install and it failed at different points each time.

*My* Opinion of what was supplied on the APC DVD (and this could be part 
of the problem I guess), was it was a depressing waste of my time and 
don't forget, I know tricky installs, having installed all OS/2 versions 
from v1.1 onwards and all Windoze versions since Windows 286 !

So my vote on Solaris 10 is MINUS 10 !!

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:58:06 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Ian Manners wrote:
>> Hi Kev
>>
>>> I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10.  My suggestion is 
>>> don't waste your time.  It's like Linux 10 years ago.  It might be 
>>> stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to 
>>> get it installed.
>> I didnt have any problems, and the installer is quite slick.
>> Pentium III 650 with 1G RAM and a 20G harddisk plus ATI card with 
>> 128M ram.
>> Newest hardware was the 20Gb HD and ATI card I bought about 3 years
>> ago. I'd put it on a par with Linux a year ago :-)
>>
>> A lot easier than OS/2 would be for a beginner :-|
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ian Manners
> This sounds like a real case of YMMV - my (quite similar) 
> configuration, was a PIII 500, 768MB RAM and 40GB harddisk - nothing 
> fancy !
>
> I tried about 5 time to install and it failed at different points each 
> time.
>
> *My* Opinion of what was supplied on the APC DVD (and this could be 
> part of the problem I guess), was it was a depressing waste of my time 
> and don't forget, I know tricky installs, having installed all OS/2 
> versions from v1.1 onwards and all Windoze versions since Windows 286 !
>
> So my vote on Solaris 10 is MINUS 10 !!
>
> Cheers/2
Hi Ed,

I am sure that the CDs distributed directly from SUN Microsystems are of 
a much better quality than those mass-produced APC versions. I have 
found that many times in the past with other media-distributed CDs.

Mike
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Date:  Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:59:13 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   openwengo

I've been looking for a while for a free VOIP (SIP standard) client that 
will run under OS/2. I have tried several Windows versions under ODIN or 
INNOWIN and while some install, not have ran so far.

I have just come across this site:

http://www.openwengo dot org/

Where they have a client that is supposed to be configurable for any 
service provider. I have seen it written that it will even run off a USB 
key - usefull if your travelling and want to call home cheaply from an 
internet cafe.

I have tried this client with ODIN and INNOWIN also without success.

Very interestingly they also have a firefox plugin of the application, 
but it reports that it cannot install in FF v 2.0, only up to v 1.5. I 
suspect this xpi actually makes Windoze calls as well however.

There's also source code available on the site if anyone is willing to 
compile to a new operating system, other than Windoze, Linux and MAC.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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