Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1368
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 00:01:23 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Sunday 08 October 2006
 Number  1368
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
1  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
3  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3   tape cassette to cd : Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
4  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
4  Re:  tape cassette to cd : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
5  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  tape cassette to cd : david shearer" <dsh43871 at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  tape cassette to cd : Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
6  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
7  Re:  Intel 2200BG WiFi under eCS 2.0 (was:  Finding Kernel version in eCS) : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>

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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:27:25 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS

>Os2Norev.$$$
>in the directory \os2\boot.

Thanks Kris, couldnt remember the name of that file.

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

To "shut down" your system, type "WIN"
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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 06:37:23 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS

Ian Manners wrote:
> Hi Ed
> 
>>   How does one find the version number of the kernel under eComStation 
>> ? Under OS/2 it is displayed at boot up, but not under eComstation.
> 
> Go to your boot root and type :-
> 
> bldlevel os2krnl
> 
> Cheers
> 
>
thankyou - I was thinking VER Version .... I knew there was a command 
but just couldn't think of it - thanks.
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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 06:42:08 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ian Manners ha scritto:
>> Hi Ed
>>
>>  
>>>   How does one find the version number of the kernel under 
>>> eComStation ? Under OS/2 it is displayed at boot up, but not under 
>>> eComstation.
>>>     
>>
>> Go to your boot root and type :-
>>
>> bldlevel os2krnl
>>
>>
>>   
> Of course.
> 
> To elaborate a bit, the reason why it's diplayed on one system and not 
> anther is the presence/absence of this file:
> 
> Os2Norev.$$$
> 
> in the directory \os2\boot.
> 
> By simply deleting the file, the message will be displayed at boot up 
> again.
> 
Thanks Kris,

FYI - I'm still trying to get Genmac working with an Intel 2200BG WiFi 
card in my T30 and after checking everything else, I remembered that 
last time I had to update the kernel before it would work on the T42 - 
it's presently at 14.103 in the eCS 2.0 beta code - I'll try putting a 
more model kernel in (and hope I don't stop something else from working !).

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:42:07 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>
> FYI - I'm still trying to get Genmac working with an Intel 2200BG WiFi 
> card in my T30 and after checking everything else, I remembered that 
> last time I had to update the kernel before it would work on the T42 - 
> it's presently at 14.103 in the eCS 2.0 beta code - I'll try putting a 
> more model kernel in (and hope I don't stop something else from 
> working !).

I'm very curious. As you already might have seen, Marc already has given 
in, and frankly, as even a bios update didn't help, I don't see a way 
aut anymore.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 08:53:26 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>
>> FYI - I'm still trying to get Genmac working with an Intel 2200BG WiFi 
>> card in my T30 and after checking everything else, I remembered that 
>> last time I had to update the kernel before it would work on the T42 - 
>> it's presently at 14.103 in the eCS 2.0 beta code - I'll try putting a 
>> more model kernel in (and hope I don't stop something else from 
>> working !).
> 
> I'm very curious. As you already might have seen, Marc already has given 
> in, and frankly, as even a bios update didn't help, I don't see a way 
> aut anymore.
> 
I had this working on my company T42 (admittably under eCS 1.2) before I 
had to have the thing rebuilt as Windoze stuffed up. I still have all of 
my notes from what I did however.

Under eCS 2.0B2 - I am at the stage where I can scan and see WiFi "hot 
spots" including my own Linksys WRT54G - I just cannot connect.

One conclusion I have made so far is that something major has been 
changed in version 1.7, which stops this card from operating (however v 
1.7 is an experimental build). V 1.6 appears to be the one to go with at 
the moment. Running the SCAN program, suggests the card is setup 
correctly, however XWLAN cannot connect to my WiFi router even though I 
know I have configured the security correctly.

I am keeping notes of every action I take so that when I get this 
working, I will be able to analyse what the real reasons for my problems 
  were.

(Upgrading from 14.103 to 14.104 kernel didn't help).

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Sun, 8 Oct 2006 09:05:22 +1000
From:  "Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
Subject:   tape cassette to cd

I want to convert a number of my old music cassette tapes
to cd, probably mp3 format, so that I can listen to them in
the car - cassettes are passe it seems. Can someone tell
me the hardware/software mix for this please. I suppose I
would need some editing features as well. 

Mike 
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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 01:41:29 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
> however XWLAN cannot connect to my
Not sure what you mean by that, but if it is the red bar thing, then 
xwlan is telling you there is no card because there is no driver in memory.

To sum up again:

- when attached to the mains, here the 2200b/g works normal (except for 
the non working led)
- when only on battery, the genmac driver can't initiate the 2200b/g,  
and as a result of course there is no wireless.

Are you sure you have done exactly this test too?

> WiFi router even though I know I have configured the security correctly.
>
> I am keeping notes of every action I take so that when I get this 
> working, I will be able to analyse what the real reasons for my 
> problems  were.
>
> (Upgrading from 14.103 to 14.104 kernel didn't help).
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:05:59 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  tape cassette to cd

Hi Mike

>I want to convert a number of my old music cassette tapes
>to cd, probably mp3 format, so that I can listen to them in
>the car - cassettes are passe it seems. Can someone tell
>me the hardware/software mix for this please. I suppose I
>would need some editing features as well. 

I'll state the obvious :-)

Cassette Deck, audio lead to sound card Aux/Line input, a computer, and monitoring
speakers :-)

I record the passages to wave using DTape <http://home.clara dot net/orac/os2.htm>,
or even the OS/2 provided 'Digital Audio' program found in the Multimedia folder.
Make sure you adjust the recording level, I do a test record, and normally start
with the Input Level set for 33%.

I then use LAME <http://www.os2site.com/sw/mmedia/mp3/record/index.html>
for encoding wave to MP3, as I archive off the wave files for future use.

There are programs to record direct to MP3 from an input stream as well.

http://www.os2site dot com/sw/mmedia/mp3/record/index.html

Recording to CD depends on what you use, I tend to keep MP3's only for
my wifes iPod, and write wav files to CD in Audio mode using Chris
Wohlgemuth's Audio/Data-CD-Creator.

http://www.os2world dot com/cdwriting/creator/creatormain.htm
http://www.os2site dot com/sw/mmedia/cdr/index.html

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:16:23 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS

Hi Kris,

   No I'm past the red X and black card symbol stage (although I can 
recreate those situations). The stage I'm at now is the actual 
connecting to my access point. I can scan and see the available networks 
- so the card IS working as is the driver.

  Having read around the web, there are some known problems with some 
versions of Intel's 2200BG cart and the WRT54G WiFi router that I am 
using. I have just checked firware levels between the (IBM supplied) 
card in the T42 and the one I purchased and added into my T30 - they are 
different. The purchased one is much newer. Both are reporting the same 
PCI/Vendor IDs however it could be that later firware level requires 
later drivers and the wrapper was perhaps created from an earlier 
version (which may match the card in the T42, but not the newer one in 
the T30).

It's easy to get access to the Mini-PCI card in the T30 but not in the 
T42, otherwise the next logical test would be to transfer the older card 
from the T42 to the T30 and see if it works there.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>> however XWLAN cannot connect to my
> Not sure what you mean by that, but if it is the red bar thing, then 
> xwlan is telling you there is no card because there is no driver in memory.
> 
> To sum up again:
> 
> - when attached to the mains, here the 2200b/g works normal (except for 
> the non working led)
> - when only on battery, the genmac driver can't initiate the 2200b/g,  
> and as a result of course there is no wireless.
> 
> Are you sure you have done exactly this test too?
> 
> 

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Date:  Sun, 8 Oct 2006 12:17:35 +1000
From:  "david shearer" <dsh43871 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  tape cassette to cd

Michael/Gail Peters wrote: 
I want to convert a number of my old music cassette tapes

to cd, probably mp3 format, so that I can listen to them in

the car - cassettes are passe it seems. Can someone tell

me the hardware/software mix for this please. I suppose I

would need some editing features as well. 

Mike 

[attachments have been removed]

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===========================================
I have tried this a couple of years ago - both vinyl records and tapes.
The easiest way is to use your sound system, preferably using your AMP -
and connect the headphone socket to the line-in of your sound card.  I
used the built-in sound recording in OS/2 or eCs to record as 16bit WAV
files.  If you install the MP3 codec - which is missing from the
standard ecs install you can then convert the wav files direct to mp3
with one or two simple clicks.  To install the Mp3 codec just reply and
I will send you the install package.  To do simple editing again I used
the built in wav editor in ecs.  I found the trick is to get the volume
level correct - just test a few times until you get it right. There are
some other audio editing packages available - just check hobbes.  

It is however a matter of manually starting your tape deck and stopping
it or pausing it while you select record and stop with the software.
That way you get one wav file per song etc.

regards

David Shearer

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Date:  Sun, 8 Oct 2006 15:32:26 +1000
From:  "Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
Subject:  Re:  tape cassette to cd

Thanks David, I'll reply privately about the install
program.

M.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david shearer" <dsh43871 at bigpond dot net dot au>
To: <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:17 PM
Subject: Re:  tape cassette to cd

> Michael/Gail Peters wrote:
> I want to convert a number of my old music cassette tapes
>
>
> to cd, probably mp3 format, so that I can listen to them in
>
>
> the car - cassettes are passe it seems. Can someone tell
>
>
> me the hardware/software mix for this please. I suppose I
>
>
> would need some editing features as well.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> [attachments have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
>
>
> 
>
>
> ===========================================
> I have tried this a couple of years ago - both vinyl records and tapes.
> The easiest way is to use your sound system, preferably using your AMP -
> and connect the headphone socket to the line-in of your sound card.  I
> used the built-in sound recording in OS/2 or eCs to record as 16bit WAV
> files.  If you install the MP3 codec - which is missing from the
> standard ecs install you can then convert the wav files direct to mp3
> with one or two simple clicks.  To install the Mp3 codec just reply and
> I will send you the install package.  To do simple editing again I used
> the built in wav editor in ecs.  I found the trick is to get the volume
> level correct - just test a few times until you get it right. There are
> some other audio editing packages available - just check hobbes.
>
> It is however a matter of manually starting your tape deck and stopping
> it or pausing it while you select record and stop with the software.
> That way you get one wav file per song etc.
>
> regards
>
>
> David Shearer
>
> [attachments have been removed]

> 

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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:31:12 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at kolibrieweg.eu>
Subject:  Re:  Finding Kernel version in eCS

Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>
>  Having read around the web, there are some known problems with some 
> versions of Intel's 2200BG cart and the WRT54G WiFi router that I am 
> using. I have just checked firware levels between the (IBM supplied) 
> card in the T42 and the one I purchased and added into my T30 - they 
> are different. The purchased one is much newer. Both are reporting the 
> same PCI/Vendor IDs however it could be that later firware level 
> requires later drivers and the wrapper was perhaps created from an 
> earlier version (which may match the card in the T42, but not the 
> newer one in the T30).
>
I see.
> It's easy to get access to the Mini-PCI card in the T30 but not in the 
> T42, otherwise the next logical test would be to transfer the older 
> card from the T42 to the T30 and see if it works there.
>
So who is going to persuade who the actual genmac might have  to be updated.

As a starter, are you willing to post the above paragraph in the 
os2-wireless group?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:14:15 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Intel 2200BG WiFi under eCS 2.0 (was:  Finding Kernel version in eCS)

Hi Kris,

  I transferred the known eCS1.2-good 2200BG Mini-PCI (IBM) card from 
the T42 to the T30 and when I tested I got the same situation as I had 
experienced with the Toshiba 2200BG Mini-PCI card.

  I had thought that only certain versions of the card may be fully 
supported by GenMac, this has not been proved by this test.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Hi Kris,
> 
>   No I'm past the red X and black card symbol stage (although I can 
> recreate those situations). The stage I'm at now is the actual 
> connecting to my access point. I can scan and see the available networks 
> - so the card IS working as is the driver.
> 
>  Having read around the web, there are some known problems with some 
> versions of Intel's 2200BG cart and the WRT54G WiFi router that I am 
> using. I have just checked firware levels between the (IBM supplied) 
> card in the T42 and the one I purchased and added into my T30 - they are 
> different. The purchased one is much newer. Both are reporting the same 
> PCI/Vendor IDs however it could be that later firware level requires 
> later drivers and the wrapper was perhaps created from an earlier 
> version (which may match the card in the T42, but not the newer one in 
> the T30).
> 
> It's easy to get access to the Mini-PCI card in the T30 but not in the 
> T42, otherwise the next logical test would be to transfer the older card 
> from the T42 to the T30 and see if it works there.
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.
> 
> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>> Ed Durrant ha scritto:
>>> however XWLAN cannot connect to my
>> Not sure what you mean by that, but if it is the red bar thing, then 
>> xwlan is telling you there is no card because there is no driver in 
>> memory.
>>
>> To sum up again:
>>
>> - when attached to the mains, here the 2200b/g works normal (except 
>> for the non working led)
>> - when only on battery, the genmac driver can't initiate the 2200b/g,  
>> and as a result of course there is no wireless.
>>
>> Are you sure you have done exactly this test too?
>>
>>
> 
 
> 
> 

> 

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