Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1344
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:01:21 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Wednesday 02 August 2006
 Number  1344
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  FYI : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
1  Re:  FYI : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
2  Re:  FYI : Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
2  Re:  FYI : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3   Ecs - Linux file shareing. : Dennis Nolan <djn at aanet dot com dot au>
3  Re:  Ecs - Linux file shareing. : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
4  Re:  Ecs - Linux file shareing. : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4   Vista = Deja Vu? : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
5  Re:  FYI : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
5  Re:  FYI : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
6  Re:  Ecs - Linux file shareing. : Dennis Nolan <djn at aanet dot com dot au>
6  Re:  Vista = Deja Vu? : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>

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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:38:32 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FYI

Hi Chris,

   Is this the "community edition" of Websphere that an item was 
recently posted on or is this the commercial version of Websphere ?

   Can you also post the relevant CONF files please ?

Cheers/2

Ed.

John Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:27:38 +1000 (EST), Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:
> 
> I tink da fine print is 'e-ar, boss!
> 
>> [1/08/06 20:52:03:994 EST]  9619e20 WsServer      A WSVR0001I: Server server1 open for e-business
>> [1/08/06 21:05:51:783 EST] 5d9d5e2a ServerCollabo A WSVR0024I: Server server1 stopped
> 
> Congratulations on getting WebSphere up and running!
> 
>> :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>
>> It is rough as at the moment, but hopefully from here it can only improove.
> 
> As long as you keep it moooving, I guess...:-)
> 
> 
> Best regards
> John Angelico
> OS/2 SIG
> os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
> talldad at kepl dot com dot au
> ___________________
> 

>  

> 

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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:52:44 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FYI

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:38:32 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hi Chris,
>
>   Is this the "community edition" of Websphere that an item was 
>recently posted on or is this the commercial version of Websphere ?

This is the 'real' IBM WebSphere Application Server V5.0 (base). Once I get
this up and running, I'll try ND (which is what I want).

I've been working on this on and off for the last year or so, but quite
intensively for the last few weeks.

The WebSphere community edition that was mentioned yesterday, is Gerimino
based and requires Java 1.4.2 (or .1?).

>   Can you also post the relevant CONF files please ?

Oh, it will be far more than that.

It requires the later 1.3.1 SR's as the first ones core dumped... :-)

I've had to write a DLL (at least at this point in time, just one) for JNI
that is used to start/stop/control processes (ie the other instances of
java).

I've had to rewrite (so far at least) two IBM Jar files so that it knows
about OS/2.

I've reworked the .bat to .cmd files.

The good thing about this is that it applies 100% for WAS 5.1 (but requires
a 1.4.2 JRE).

I managed to get the installer to run once, but now I cann't get it to work
now so I'm trying to remember that I did (about a year ago)... :-(

I've got a bit of work ahead of me now, but at least the initial steps are
encouraging.

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA

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Date:  Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:47:32 -0600
From:  Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis at sandia dot net>
Subject:  Re:  FYI

Did you try it with the InnoTek 1.4.2 Java?

Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:38:32 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>>   Is this the "community edition" of Websphere that an item was 
>> recently posted on or is this the commercial version of Websphere ?
> 
> This is the 'real' IBM WebSphere Application Server V5.0 (base). Once I get
> this up and running, I'll try ND (which is what I want).
> 
> I've been working on this on and off for the last year or so, but quite
> intensively for the last few weeks.
> 
> The WebSphere community edition that was mentioned yesterday, is Gerimino
> based and requires Java 1.4.2 (or .1?).
> 
>>   Can you also post the relevant CONF files please ?
> 
> Oh, it will be far more than that.
> 
> It requires the later 1.3.1 SR's as the first ones core dumped... :-)
> 
> I've had to write a DLL (at least at this point in time, just one) for JNI
> that is used to start/stop/control processes (ie the other instances of
> java).
> 
> I've had to rewrite (so far at least) two IBM Jar files so that it knows
> about OS/2.
> 
> I've reworked the .bat to .cmd files.
> 
> The good thing about this is that it applies 100% for WAS 5.1 (but requires
> a 1.4.2 JRE).
> 
> I managed to get the installer to run once, but now I cann't get it to work
> now so I'm trying to remember that I did (about a year ago)... :-(
> 
> I've got a bit of work ahead of me now, but at least the initial steps are
> encouraging.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Covenant Solutions
http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/
505-286-3191

A journey of 1000 miles must begin with wondering if you turned off the 
iron.

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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:04:54 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FYI

Let me wish you the best of luck with this - it appears to be a major 
project !

Cheers/2

Ed.

Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:38:32 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>>   Is this the "community edition" of Websphere that an item was 
>> recently posted on or is this the commercial version of Websphere ?
> 
> This is the 'real' IBM WebSphere Application Server V5.0 (base). Once I get
> this up and running, I'll try ND (which is what I want).
> 
> I've been working on this on and off for the last year or so, but quite
> intensively for the last few weeks.
> 
> The WebSphere community edition that was mentioned yesterday, is Gerimino
> based and requires Java 1.4.2 (or .1?).
> 
>>   Can you also post the relevant CONF files please ?
> 
> Oh, it will be far more than that.
> 
> It requires the later 1.3.1 SR's as the first ones core dumped... :-)
> 
> I've had to write a DLL (at least at this point in time, just one) for JNI
> that is used to start/stop/control processes (ie the other instances of
> java).
> 
> I've had to rewrite (so far at least) two IBM Jar files so that it knows
> about OS/2.
> 
> I've reworked the .bat to .cmd files.
> 
> The good thing about this is that it applies 100% for WAS 5.1 (but requires
> a 1.4.2 JRE).
> 
> I managed to get the installer to run once, but now I cann't get it to work
> now so I'm trying to remember that I did (about a year ago)... :-(
> 
> I've got a bit of work ahead of me now, but at least the initial steps are
> encouraging.
> 
> -Chris
> 
> WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
> Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
> FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
> Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA
> 
> 

>  

> 

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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:23:18 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <djn at aanet dot com dot au>
Subject:   Ecs - Linux file shareing.

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G'day everyone<br>
<br>
On my home network I have Suse-10 installed on one of the machines with
LLAMP and SAMBA also installed.<br>
<br>
I have two problems<br>
<blockquote>
  <ul>
    <li>I cannot seem to see the files on the SUSE box from Ecs (No
problem with Windows Xp Pro)</li>
    <li>Accessing the SUSE localhost so that web pages will rum under
the LLAMP Apache server.</li>
  </ul>
The second one is just an inconvenience as i can achieve it on the SUSE
box, but it would be nice not to have the confusion that happens with
two screens, keyboards and mice on my desk at the same time.<br>
  <br>
After logging into the domain and starting the "<b>File and Print
Client Resource Browser</b>" I can see the SAMBA server. <br>
When I double click SAMBA I can only see shares which were created with
root access. The normal user access shares are not visible.<br>
Double clicking the visible shares brings up an error dialog informing
me that "<b>No objects were found that matched the specified find
criteria</b>" <br>
  <br>
Now when I go to a command prompt window:<br>
NET VIEW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; shows the server name "<b>\\FRIA</b>" and SAMBA in the
remarks field.<br>
NET VIEW //FRIA&nbsp;&nbsp; shows all the shares that were created on the SUSE
box.<br>
  <br>
What have I not done that allows me to access the SUSE box files?<br>
  <br>
Regards<br>
Dennis<br>
  <br>
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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:28:42 +1000
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Ecs - Linux file shareing.

Dennis

From memory I think your first issue is due to an incompatibility with
SAMBA and the WPS. I did see something about this is another newsgroup,
I just can't remember which one.

Found it under ecs.support dot networking. I have attached the email.

> Hi,
> 
> Gerry Chilibeck schrieb:
>> I have eCS 1.2 and XP on both boxes.  I can peer
>> eCS to eCS and XP to XP just fine.  That accomplishes
>> what I will use peer for.....Backup stuff.
> 
> The main difference of the WPS access to peer shares is:
> It uses the info level "get EAs by list" when retrieving the directory content. This is not wrong, but uncommon. Most probably no other OS will use this combination at all. So it is very likely that the implementation is completely untestet. This is also the reason why OS/2 & eCS can't access samba 3 shares through the WPS.
> 
>> It's just amazing that eCS/XP works for some folks.
> 
> I can commit this. Maybe it makes a difference whether we talk about XP home or XP proffesional. With XPpro I have no problems at all. This applies also to Win2k proffesional, and NT4 Client and Server.
> 
> Maybe the samba client for OS/2 will be less sensitive - mostly for the reason that it does not support EAs. However, i did not get lucky with it because of this.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Marcel Müller 

Again from memory you need to use Netdrive to over come the problem. I
am using Clarkconnect which is designed to be headless and the
management performed via the web browser using their web tool or webmin.
I also use ssh to manage the clarkconnect box.

Not sure what you mean by the second issue. Can you not just access the
webserver via the IP address if you don't have a DNS or hosts file.

regards
Ken

Dennis Nolan wrote:
> G'day everyone
> 
> On my home network I have Suse-10 installed on one of the machines with
> LLAMP and SAMBA also installed.
> 
> I have two problems
> 
>         * I cannot seem to see the files on the SUSE box from Ecs (No
>           problem with Windows Xp Pro)
>         * Accessing the SUSE localhost so that web pages will rum under
>           the LLAMP Apache server.
> 
>     The second one is just an inconvenience as i can achieve it on the
>     SUSE box, but it would be nice not to have the confusion that
>     happens with two screens, keyboards and mice on my desk at the same
>     time.
> 
>     After logging into the domain and starting the "*File and Print
>     Client Resource Browser*" I can see the SAMBA server.
>     When I double click SAMBA I can only see shares which were created
>     with root access. The normal user access shares are not visible.
>     Double clicking the visible shares brings up an error dialog
>     informing me that "*No objects were found that matched the specified
>     find criteria*"
> 
>     Now when I go to a command prompt window:
>     NET VIEW    shows the server name "*\\FRIA*" and SAMBA in the
>     remarks field.
>     NET VIEW //FRIA   shows all the shares that were created on the SUSE
>     box.
> 
>     What have I not done that allows me to access the SUSE box files?
> 
>     Regards
>     Dennis
> 

> 

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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:19:42 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ecs - Linux file shareing.

Dennis Nolan wrote:
> G'day everyone
> 
> On my home network I have Suse-10 installed on one of the machines with 
> LLAMP and SAMBA also installed.
> 
> I have two problems
> 
>         * I cannot seem to see the files on the SUSE box from Ecs (No
>           problem with Windows Xp Pro)
>         * Accessing the SUSE localhost so that web pages will rum under
>           the LLAMP Apache server.
> 
>     The second one is just an inconvenience as i can achieve it on the
>     SUSE box, but it would be nice not to have the confusion that
>     happens with two screens, keyboards and mice on my desk at the same
>     time.
> 
>     After logging into the domain and starting the "*File and Print
>     Client Resource Browser*" I can see the SAMBA server.
>     When I double click SAMBA I can only see shares which were created
>     with root access. The normal user access shares are not visible.
>     Double clicking the visible shares brings up an error dialog
>     informing me that "*No objects were found that matched the specified
>     find criteria*"
> 
>     Now when I go to a command prompt window:
>     NET VIEW    shows the server name "*\\FRIA*" and SAMBA in the
>     remarks field.
>     NET VIEW //FRIA   shows all the shares that were created on the SUSE
>     box.
> 
>     What have I not done that allows me to access the SUSE box files?
> 
>     Regards
>     Dennis
> 
 
>  

Create an account in Samba on the SUSE box with EXACTLY the same name 
and password as your LAN account on the eCS box (case as well).

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:08:37 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:   Vista = Deja Vu?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/02/windows_vista_upgrades/

[Quote]
Microsoft has published the long-anticipated upgrade paths for moving PCs
from old versions of Windows to Windows Vista. That's the good news.

The bad news (for most users)? You're gonna have to back up all your files
and desktop settings for re-installation, along with all your PC
applications, once Windows Vista is up and running.

This is the reality facing large number of business users still running
Windows 2000 - 56 per cent, according to latest research. Microsoft said
customers running Windows 2000 Professional are eligible for an upgrade
copy to a corresponding or better edition of Windows Vista, but a "clean
install" is still required.
[/Quote]

Haven't we long-standing OS/2ers heard this all before? 

The old joke used to be about Win 3 = MacOS 1 or something.

I am starting to think Vista = OS/2 Warp 4 or eCS 1.0

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 Zealot
Melbourne Victoria, AUSTRALIA
Email: talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:24:12 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FYI

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:52:44 +1000 (EST), Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:

>I managed to get the installer to run once, but now I cann't get it to work
>now so I'm trying to remember that I did (about a year ago)... :-(

I remembered:

java -cp setup.jar run

will do it,

Or, for a response file install:

java -cp setup.jar run -options responsefile.txt -silent

The windows install.exe calls the IBM JRE under the covers and adds in a
whole lot of crap that just gets in the way, this is what I got:

..\jdk\java\bin\java.exe -cp "setup.jar" -Dtemp.dir="C:\Temp"
-Dis.jvm.home="D:\WS5\nt\jdk\java" -Dis.jvm.temp="1" -Dis.media.home=""
-Dis.launcher.file="D:\WS5\nt\Install.exe"
-Dis.jvm.file="D:\WS5\nt\jvm.txt" -Dis.external.home="D:\WS5\nt"  -Xms20m
-Xmx60m run

I tried this and it works - until it starts to copy files.

So, in exasperation I just tried the minimalist approach; and it worked -
well it copies the files at least.

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA

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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:16:54 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  FYI

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:47:32 -0600, Chuck McKinnis wrote:

>Did you try it with the InnoTek 1.4.2 Java?

Not yet, but it will be a requirement if I want to try WAS5.1.

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA

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Date:  Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:41:36 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <djn at aanet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ecs - Linux file shareing.

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I think I have solved my problem, more testing to td tomorrow to be
certain.<br>
<br>
The solution is to go into the properties of the folder that you have
created a share of and do some selective edits.<br>
On my system (SUSE 10) there are the following tabs in the properties
notebook<br>
<ul>
  <li>General</li>
  <li>Permissions</li>
  <li>Meta Info</li>
  <li>Shareing</li>
  <li>Share</li>
</ul>
In the permissions you need to set them to read write and execute
depending on your preference or requirements<br>
But the main page that needs attention is the last one the "Share" page<br>
<br>
Select the Share with Samba (Microsoft(C) Windows(R)) checkbox&nbsp; and
also the Public and Writable checkboxes<br>
Then go into the More Samba Options section (Click the button)<br>
This brings up another notebook with the following tabs<br>
<ul>
  <li>Base Settings</li>
  <li>Users</li>
  <li>Security</li>
  <li>Hidden Files</li>
  <li>Advanced</li>
</ul>
On the Base settings page ensure the Public, Browseable and Available
checkboxes are checked<br>
On the Users Page, at the bottom of the page the force user and force
group should both be root<br>
On the security page Guest account should be root and the only allow
guest connections should be checked. The symbolic links I also check<br>
Hidden files page should only be changed if you know what you are doing
it for and have a need to do it.<br>
<br>
<b>There is a warning on the advanced page notifying you that you are
making changes to the Samba server when you change something in the
Advanced section.</b><br>
<br>
On the advanced/security page in the OS/2 section check the support for
OS/2 extended attributes support<br>
<br>
After doing the above I seemed to get full access to the Linux file
system.<br>
<br>
I remember some time ago I tried to get my ISP onto a network drive on
Ecs with strange results. Some files visible and others not visible.
Maybe my ISP's Samba server needs tweaking.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Dennis.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dennis Nolan wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid44CFFE86.8070300 at aanet dot com dot au" type="cite">
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G'day everyone<br>
  <br>
On my home network I have Suse-10 installed on one of the machines with
LLAMP and SAMBA also installed.<br>
  <br>
I have two problems<br>
  <blockquote>
    <ul>
      <li>I cannot seem to see the files on the SUSE box from Ecs (No
problem with Windows Xp Pro)</li>
      <li>Accessing the SUSE localhost so that web pages will rum under
the LLAMP Apache server.</li>
    </ul>
The second one is just an inconvenience as i can achieve it on the SUSE
box, but it would be nice not to have the confusion that happens with
two screens, keyboards and mice on my desk at the same time.<br>
    <br>
After logging into the domain and starting the "<b>File and Print
Client Resource Browser</b>" I can see the SAMBA server. <br>
When I double click SAMBA I can only see shares which were created with
root access. The normal user access shares are not visible.<br>
Double clicking the visible shares brings up an error dialog informing
me that "<b>No objects were found that matched the specified find
criteria</b>" <br>
    <br>
Now when I go to a command prompt window:<br>
NET VIEW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; shows the server name "<b>\\FRIA</b>" and SAMBA in the
remarks field.<br>
NET VIEW //FRIA&nbsp;&nbsp; shows all the shares that were created on the SUSE
box.<br>
    <br>
What have I not done that allows me to access the SUSE box files?<br>
    <br>
Regards<br>
Dennis<br>
    <br>
  </blockquote>
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Date:  Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:19:02 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Vista = Deja Vu?

<quote who="John Angelico">
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/02/windows_vista_upgrades/
>
>
> [Quote]
> Microsoft has published the long-anticipated upgrade paths for moving PCs
> from old versions of Windows to Windows Vista. That's the good news.
>
> The bad news (for most users)? You're gonna have to back up all your
> files and desktop settings for re-installation, along with all your PC
> applications, once Windows Vista is up and running.
>
> This is the reality facing large number of business users still running
> Windows 2000 - 56 per cent, according to latest research. Microsoft said
> customers running Windows 2000 Professional are eligible for an upgrade
> copy to a corresponding or better edition of Windows Vista, but a "clean
> install" is still required. [/Quote]

hurrah, fantastic news !
all these business oportunities coming to all the folks in the IT industry !
hardware vendors will also be celebrating, no doubt.

-- 
Voytek

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