Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1247
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 00:03:14 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 21 January 2006
 Number  1247
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
1  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
2  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
2  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
3  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
3  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
4  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
5  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
5  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
6  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
7  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>

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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:02:35 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

On Fri, January 20, 2006 11:34 pm, John Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:15:53 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

> After doing the usual: select printer, set properties, number of copies
> etc) I get a box saying
> Fax Print
> Printer Bitmap error x1015
> [Retry] [Cancel]
>
>
> and at the printer I get a page with PCL XL error
> Subsystem: KERNEL
> Error: illegalOperatorSequence
> Operator: EndSession
> Position: 19
>
>
>>
>>> I can print a DCX file of the fax (the only other option for saving
>>> the file out of PMFax) from PMView Pro, but I get a leading page of
>>> garbage, then the fax page/s print fine.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong, please?
>>>
>>
>> using wrong printer driver ?
>
> Hmm. Is that the FxPrint driver or the Laserjet driver for Kyocera
> FS-1010
> (which doesn't have trouble with anything else)?

fxprint is to print into PMfax;

seems some sort of PCL error, what abouve dump,
I would try some generic HP LaserJet driver

I think... when I 1st tried to print to the Lexmark on windoze USB, I also
had some driver probs... I think...

(as an aside, I got two of these Lexmarks, I brought one home to replace
the old HPLJ4, and, I got USB plugged into OS/2, LPT, into my
windoze4Palm, bingo, instant printer sharer)

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:50:14 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

** Reply to note from "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au> Fri, 20 Jan 2006   
23:34:54 +1100 (AEDT) 
>    
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:15:53 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote: 
>    

When you install PMView it changes th print system without telling you :-( 
On my system this screwed up printing everywhere.  To get around this I had to:- 
 
Reinstall OS 
Did not install PMView. 
PMView was still on another drive & could be used without installing. 
I have never attempted printing from PMView. 
 
HTH 
Wayne 

 
> Hi Voytek 
>    
> > 
> >On Fri, January 20, 2006 10:43 pm, John Angelico wrote: 
> > 
> >> However, trying to print a fax is a chore - I can't print direct out of 
> >> PMFax, and I can't print a TIF created  by PMFax (using say PMView Pro 
> >> 3.23). 
> > 
> >can you print from anything ? 
>    
> See later comment re printing out of PMView. All other printing is OK. 
>    
> > 
> >why can't you print, do you get a message saying ' you can't print direct 
> >out of PMFax' ? or what actually happens ? 
>    
> After doing the usual: select printer, set properties, number of copies etc) 
> I get a box saying  
> Fax Print 
> Printer Bitmap error x1015 
> [Retry] [Cancel]  
>    
> and at the printer I get a page with  
> PCL XL error 
> 	Subsystem: KERNEL 
> 	Error: illegalOperatorSequence 
> 	Operator: EndSession 
> 	Position: 19  
>    
> > 
> >> I can print a DCX file of the fax (the only other option for saving the 
> >> file out of PMFax) from PMView Pro, but I get a leading page of garbage, 
> >> then the fax page/s print fine. 
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> What am I doing wrong, please? 
> > 
> >using wrong printer driver ? 
>    
> Hmm. Is that the FxPrint driver or the Laserjet driver for Kyocera FS-1010 
> (which doesn't have trouble with anything else)? 
>    
> > 
> >I actually print from PMfax to a windoze USB Lexmark Laser; 
> >and, send faxes from windoze to pmfax 
>    
> There's hope for me yet! 
>    
> PS: All was printing fine under eCS 1.1x before the installation of 1.2. 
>    
> Sadly too many things changed because it was a clean install.  
>    
> Please don't ask me to try analysing the changes... 
>   
>    
>    
> Best regards 
> John Angelico 
> OS/2 SIG 
> os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or  
> talldad at kepl dot com dot au 

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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:18:23 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

Wayne schreef:

>** Reply to note from "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au> Fri, 20 Jan 2006   
>23:34:54 +1100 (AEDT) 
>  
>
>>   
>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:15:53 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote: 
>>   
>>    
>>
> 
> 
>When you install PMView it changes th print system without telling you :-( 
>  
>
Does it? Never encoutered that phenomena myself though.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:30:55 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

Hi Wayne

>When you install PMView it changes th print system without telling you :-( 
>On my system this screwed up printing everywhere.  To get around this I had to:- 

I've never had that problem, registered PMView, update with each release.
Maybe your ini file has a problem ?

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

NEVER lie to a telepath or an empath.  It WON'T work.
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Date:  Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:38:03 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

Ian Manners wrote:

> I've never had that problem, registered PMView, update with each release.
> Maybe your ini file has a problem ?

I agree him!

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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:16:14 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please

Hi All,

   Let me add what I know of these print server devices - whether HP, 
Lexmark, Brother or Intel, the principal used is the same.

   Although some, like yours can use Netbios my experience is the 
simplest way to set them up is to use TCPIP. You will need to load the 
line printer daemon (LPD) on OS/2 - there are alternative (faster) 
options but I generally find the one built into the OS/2 TCPIP stack to 
be the most reliable and compatible.

   So go to a command line and run TCPCFG2.

   Click on the "autostart" tab and then select lpd in the list and 
click on the "autostart service" square radio button.
   Now click on the printing tab. Enter the IP address of the print 
server in the field "remote print server" and the default queue name in 
the "remote print server's printer" field.  This name is different 
depending upon the manufacturer of the device - IBM/Lexmark for example 
use PASS - you could try this, or otherwise it should be stated 
somewhere in that downloaded manual. There may be a different name for 
each of the ports on the device - eg parrallel, Serial1, Serial2 etc.

Enter 2 in the Maximum Number of LPD ports field.

[ It appears from : 
http://support.intel dot com/support/netport/pro/sb/cs-015305.htm

   that the default Printer Que name (if not changed or presumably if 
the system is reset to factory defaults is: " PRxxxxxx ID number will 
become your print server name and the root of the printer name ". ]

[ Depending upon which model you have - this may also be of interest:
http://www.intel dot com/support/netport/onlineguide/nphe02lu.htm
If you can access via a web browser - I would hope the queue names are 
displayed somewhere ]

press OK three times - the system will restart. You could also press OK 
twice and then NO and manually restart the TCP stack by typing TCPSTART 
on the command line if you wish to avoid restarting the system.

Now go to the printers folder (under connections). Drag and drop the 
Printer template (NOT the Network Printer template).

If you have already installed the correct printer driver, select it in 
the list on the left, otherwise click on "install new printer driver..." 
and install the driver and return to this point.
In the box on the right of the panel, (scroll if necessary) and select 
the \Pipe\LPD0 object. Right click this and select properties. LPD 
Server field needs to have the IP address of the print server and LPD 
Printer requires the Queue name as before. This data may already be 
configured. You can leave all the other options as they are in this 
panel. Press OK.
You're now back at the previous panel. Enter something relevant in the 
Name field rather than the default "Printer".  Press Create and your 
printer object will be created. RMB on the new option and set up page 
size / orientation and other options required via the Properties / 
printer driver / Job Properties option and for more hardware related 
settings (eg amount of memory in printer, fonts available etc, RMB and 
select properties on the printer icon in the printer driver page of the 
properties / printer driver / job properties page.

Now go to an applicataion - eg EPM and see if you can print !!

Cheers/2

Ed.

Trevor Jacobs wrote:
> Greetings John,
> 
> I don't have such an os/2-ecs setup (yet!), and I realise that your 
> question relates in part to networking rather than p/s setup.
> I do have some experience with getting HP LJ printers to go with print 
> servers, albeit Win, so this might assist. (My networked LJ4+ is a gem 
> provided it has warmed up/self-tested before the first print of the day 
> is sent.)
> 
> The one piece of advice which I have indelibly on my mind, from a guy 
> who seemed to have all the answers when I was looking, is that you 
> should use IP addressing and give the p/s a _static_ IP even if you use 
> a DHCP server on your LAN. If the p/s will accommodate other protocols, 
> he reckons "disable them if you can".  The IP needs to fall outside the 
> DHCP allocatable range but within the mask.    (However, I don't know 
> _why_ he reckons this to be "the way" - it might just be that it's 
> easier for lazy installers !  OTOH, if it's a method which fails less 
> often for hard-bitten support staff, then the advice would seem worthy 
> of an ear.  But I dunno for sure.)
> After that, the recommendations were :
> - use/get current firmware
> - rtfm (esp if there are switches to set)
> - reset everything and start fresh ("no-one else is ever the same"!!)
> - use the interface (web, telnet, ..) provided (ie don't try to be clever)
> 
>  From memory, he also thought serial connections for printers just added 
> to the complexity, so use parallel if possible.
> 
> Now, how that will tally with the expertise coming your way from people 
> who (unlike me) actually know their os/2-ecs, and might not favour 
> TCP/IP, I can't say.  So YMMV.
> 
> But after the support you've given me, I hope it helps.
> 
> tj
=======
> John Angelico wrote:
>> We have just aquired a bargain print server
>> Intel Netport Express PRO 
 
> 
> 

> 

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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:16:11 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" <deadmail> Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:30:55   
+1100 (EDT) 
>    
> Hi Wayne 
>    
> >When you install PMView it changes th print system without telling you :-(  
> >On my system this screwed up printing everywhere.  To get around this I had to:-  
>    
> I've never had that problem, registered PMView, update with each release. 
> Maybe your ini file has a problem ? 

I was aware that I seemed to be the only person with this problem & I assumed it 
was due to using a very unusual printer driver.  It is worthwhile checking out if 
no one else comes up with a solution.  Apart from this, I have never had problems 
printing from PMFax. 
 
Cheers 
Wayne 

>    
> Cheers 
> Ian Manners 
> http://www.os2site dot com/ 
>    

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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:38:23 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:16:14 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

Hi Ed.

Many thanks for ther detailed instructions.

>
>   Although some, like yours can use Netbios my experience is the 
>simplest way to set them up is to use TCPIP. You will need to load the 
>line printer daemon (LPD) on OS/2 - there are alternative (faster) 
>options but I generally find the one built into the OS/2 TCPIP stack to 
>be the most reliable and compatible.
>
>   So go to a command line and run TCPCFG2.

First question: in this network of 4 machines, plus hubs and a couple of
transient ThinkPads, on *which* machine should I be running TCPCFG2? 

Then: should I run TCPCFG2 on each machine in turn?

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:34:56 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:16:11 +0930, Wayne wrote:

Hi Wayne

>** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" <deadmail> Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:30:55   
>+1100 (EDT) 
>>    
>> Hi Wayne 
>>    
>> >When you install PMView it changes th print system without telling you :-(  
>> >On my system this screwed up printing everywhere.  To get around this I had to:-  
>>    
>> I've never had that problem, registered PMView, update with each release. 
>> Maybe your ini file has a problem ? 

I'm with Ian and Kev etc on this one.

I have PMView registered, and regularly update. I am already on 3.23
(released this week).

> 
> 
>I was aware that I seemed to be the only person with this problem & I assumed it 
>was due to using a very unusual printer driver.  It is worthwhile checking out if 
>no one else comes up with a solution.  Apart from this, I have never had problems 
>printing from PMFax. 

OK, will put it on the back burner for now.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:03:32 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

Wayne schreef:

>>   
>>    
>>
>>>When you install PMView it changes th print system without telling you :-(  
>>>On my system this screwed up printing everywhere.  To get around this I had to:-  
>>>      
>>>
>>   
>>I've never had that problem, registered PMView, update with each release. 
>>Maybe your ini file has a problem ? 
>>    
>>
> 
> 
>I was aware that I seemed to be the only person with this problem & I assumed it 
>was due to using a very unusual printer driver.  It is worthwhile checking out if 
>no one else comes up with a solution.  Apart from this, I have never had problems 
>printing from PMFax. 
> 
>  
>

Now, are you speaking about PMview or PMFax?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:18:36 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

On Sat, January 21, 2006 11:34 am, John Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:16:11 +0930, Wayne wrote:

>
> OK, will put it on the back burner for now.

did you try plain jane HP laserjet 2 ?

-- 
Voytek

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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:33:06 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Print Server Configuration - help please

John Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:16:14 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed.
> 
> Many thanks for ther detailed instructions.
> 
>>   Although some, like yours can use Netbios my experience is the 
>> simplest way to set them up is to use TCPIP. You will need to load the 
>> line printer daemon (LPD) on OS/2 - there are alternative (faster) 
>> options but I generally find the one built into the OS/2 TCPIP stack to 
>> be the most reliable and compatible.
>>
>>   So go to a command line and run TCPCFG2.
> 
> First question: in this network of 4 machines, plus hubs and a couple of
> transient ThinkPads, on *which* machine should I be running TCPCFG2? 
> 
> Then: should I run TCPCFG2 on each machine in turn?
> 
> 
You run TCPCFG2 on all of your OS/2 or eCS systems that need to talk to 
the printer. This program simply configures part of the TCP/IP software. 
You could actually do it manually by changing some cmd files if you 
wanted to.

If you also have Windoze systems - if they are Win98 or earlier you'll 
need to add extra support (if you can still find it) to work with TCPIP 
based printers.

WinNT, 2K or XP, you'll need to select "standard TCPIP printer" when you 
create another port for a LOCAL printer (again NOT the network printer 
option). To get this option you may have to add support from the OS 
install CD. Setup is similar to as described for an OS/2 LPD link.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:11:31 +0930
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

** Reply to note from Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl> Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:03:32   
+0100 
>    
> Wayne schreef: 
>    
> >>    
> >>     
> >> 
> >>>When you install PMView it changes th print system without telling you :-(   
> >>>On my system this screwed up printing everywhere.  To get around this I had to:-   
> >>>       
> >>> 
> >>    
> >>I've never had that problem, registered PMView, update with each release.  
> >>Maybe your ini file has a problem ?  
> >>     
> >> 
> >  
> >  
> >I was aware that I seemed to be the only person with this problem & I assumed it  
> >was due to using a very unusual printer driver.  It is worthwhile checking out if  
> >no one else comes up with a solution.   

This referred to losing the ability to print correctly from any program. 

> >Apart from this, I have never had problems  
> >printing from PMFax.  
> >  

This means the only time I couldn't print from PMFax was when I couldn't print 
from any other program either. 

> > 
>    
> Now, are you speaking about PMview or PMFax? 
>    
> --  
> Groeten uit Gent, 
>    
>    Kris 
>    

This thread seems to be getting side tracked.  What John needs is suggestions 
about his original question. 
 
Cheers 
Wayne

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Date:  Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:21:59 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  eCS 1.2 and printing from Faxworks/PMFax

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:11:31 +0930, Wayne wrote:

>
>This thread seems to be getting side tracked.  What John needs is suggestions 
>about his original question. 
> 

<VBG> That would be a helpful move, methinks...

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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