Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1239
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:03:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Friday 13 January 2006
 Number  1239
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
1  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
2   Speaking of Firefox... : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  Speaking of Firefox... : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L : Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Zip : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
4  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L : Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
4  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  Speaking of Firefox... : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  Speaking of Firefox... : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Speaking of Firefox... : Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
6  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L : Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:39:24 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L

Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:04:56 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
>> Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:

> 
> Yes there is an orange led right next to it, that lights up as I would
> expected it to.
> 
> The odd thing is that the LED does light up when the card is being reset,
> but only then.
> 
> -Chris
> 
One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could 
it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the 
connector as it draws too much current ??

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:27:48 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:39:24 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:04:56 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>> 
>>> Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:
>
>> 
>> Yes there is an orange led right next to it, that lights up as I would
>> expected it to.
>> 
>> The odd thing is that the LED does light up when the card is being reset,
>> but only then.
>> 
>> -Chris
>> 
>One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could 
>it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the 
>connector as it draws too much current ??

I've been wondering that myself, does it need a resistor in series to drop
the current drawn.

But, why would they be the _only_ people on the entire planet who would
require this?

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:53:43 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Speaking of Firefox...

Do Firefox and Thunderbird play nicely these days?  Which versions work 
together?

Cheers
G
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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:36:46 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Speaking of Firefox...

I have FF 1.5 and TB 1.5 RC1 now and they both work together, however I 
can't seem to get FF to link to TB without having to manually start TB.  
TB starts FF no problems.  Has anyone encountered this and/or have a 
fix?  Oh and have used configapps.

Cheers
G
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Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:39:21 +1100
From:  "Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L

** Reply to message from "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:27:48 +1100 (EDT)
Quote
>One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could 
>it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the 
>connector as it draws too much current ??

>I've been wondering that myself, does it need a resistor in series to drop
>the current drawn.
Unquote

It's been a while since I was actually hands on but to the best of my knowledge
standard LEDs draw 20 mA max and you have to put a resistor in series to limit
the current.

If you have an LED that you are replacing then the resistor will already be in
place.

I stated standard before as there are now LEDs designed to do different things
like flash and work directly in cars and such, these have differing
requirements.

Another option if you are more than competent with a soldering iron and removal
methods, (or know someone who is), would be to take the LED out and extend it
with wire to your front
panel.

Regards,
Michael
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Date:  Mon, 09 Jan 2006 07:37:50 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Zip

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:36 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:

>
>When I want to look inside a zip file before unzipping, or make minor
>modifications to something I've just zipped, I use KAZip. I've tried a
>variety of other GUI zip utilities, and I still have Archive Viewer
>installed (although I never use it except by accident), but I haven't
>been satisfied with any of them. KAZip might be old and unsupported, but
>it works better than anything else I've seen.

Hmm, I use Hyperview (also old but very effective).

Still available at OS/2 Site AFAIK.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:38:54 -09:3
From:  Wayne <datablitz at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L

** Reply to note from "Michael Barrow" <thebarrows at iinet dot net dot au> Fri, 13 Jan 2006   
12:39:21 +1100 
>    
> ** Reply to message from "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au> 
> on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:27:48 +1100 (EDT) 
> Quote 
> >One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could  
> >it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the  
> >connector as it draws too much current ?? 

Or different voltage. 
 
>    
> >I've been wondering that myself, does it need a resistor in series to drop 
> >the current drawn. 
> Unquote 
>    
> It's been a while since I was actually hands on but to the best of my knowledge 
> standard LEDs draw 20 mA max and you have to put a resistor in series to limit 
> the current. 

Small "indicator" leds (eg from pc, hdd, toaster, tv etc) normally only draw a few 
milliamps. 

> If you have an LED that you are replacing then the resistor will already be in 
> place. 
>    
> I stated standard before as there are now LEDs designed to do different things 
> like flash and work directly in cars and such, these have differing 
> requirements. 
>    
> Another option if you are more than competent with a soldering iron and removal 
> methods, (or know someone who is), would be to take the LED out and extend it 
> with wire to your front 
> panel. 
>    
> Regards, 
> Michael 

Leds also must be wired with correct polarity. 
 
Holden has a concept car called Efijy that uses 20W leds 
for headlights. 

Cheers 
Wayne

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:48:00 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L

Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:

>> One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could 
>> it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the 
>> connector as it draws too much current ??
> 
> I've been wondering that myself, does it need a resistor in series to drop
> the current drawn.
> 
> But, why would they be the _only_ people on the entire planet who would
> require this?
> 
> -Chris
> 
Probably as the main market for this card was / is to go into IBM 
hardware. for OEM systems people would normally buy the Mylex or Adaptec 
card.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:49:46 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Speaking of Firefox...

Gavin Miller wrote:
> Do Firefox and Thunderbird play nicely these days?  Which versions work 
> together?
> 
> Cheers
> G
 
> 
> 

> 
I use 1.5RC1 of both programs. I'd like to use 1.5GA - which is 
available in an OS/2 form for Fiewfox, but not for Thunderbird yet (AFAIK).

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:55:29 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Speaking of Firefox...

Gavin Miller wrote:
> I have FF 1.5 and TB 1.5 RC1 now and they both work together, however I 
> can't seem to get FF to link to TB without having to manually start TB.  
> TB starts FF no problems.  Has anyone encountered this and/or have a 
> fix?  Oh and have used configapps.
> 
> Cheers
> G

I believe this is a known outstanding problem in RC1.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:27:38 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
Subject:  Re:  Speaking of Firefox...

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Gavin Miller wrote:
>> Do Firefox and Thunderbird play nicely these days?  Which versions
>>  work together?
>> 

> I use 1.5RC1 of both programs. I'd like to use 1.5GA - which is 
> available in an OS/2 form for Fiewfox, but not for Thunderbird yet 
> (AFAIK).

I use RUN! by Rich Walsh (look for run_060.zip if you don't know it) to
run both of them: 1.5GA Firefox, and 1.5RC2 Thunderbird. (I also tried
1.5rc1 of Thunderbird, but found it to be too buggy to be useful.) They
seem to play well together, although now that I think of it I rarely try
to e-mail from Firefox. (I've stopped putting mailto: links on my web
pages, and that seems to have stopped the spammers from finding my new
addresses (so far!).) Firefox 1.5 works very nicely. The latest
Thunderbird still has a few bugs:

(a) If you ever select the option to compact a folder, there is no way
(to my knowledge) to turn it off, and you will be nagged forever by a
popup asking for confirmation. This bug has been in every release of
Thunderbird that I've tried.

(b) The "account settings" dialogue attempts to take over the entire
screen - this seems to be the standard trick of all "clueless newbie"
HTML coders - and there's no way to resize it. That means that if your
screen height is reduced by a WPS extender like eCenter or PC/2 (I use
both), the top of the dialogue disappears off the top of the screen.
This is a new bug; previous versions worked properly.

(c) My copy seemed to change the location of the "Local Folders"
directory, leading to great confusion as to which files should be where.
I'm not sure whether that's a Thunderbird bug or a change I made
accidentally.

(d) On one of my POP3 accounts the mail is fetched correctly when
Thunderbird is opened, but every 10 minutes after that I get two popups
asking me (twice!) for the password for that account. (Correction: this
evening it has decided to start asking me three times on each fetch.)
That password does not get recorded by the Password Manager no matter
what I do, although obviously it's recorded somewhere because the
initial fetch works.

I'm sorry to say, too, that no release of Thunderbird has ever fixed the
most annoying bug of all: when you create a new account, "post in HTML"
is the default behaviour, and it's easy to forget to turn it off.

The "rewrap" function now works for quoted text, but not for original
text. And you have to use "rewrap" every now and then while you're
typing, because the default "plain text" line length is something like
200 characters. The only way to see what you're typing as you're typing
it, without forever scrolling left and right, is to maximise the window.
In other words, the Thunderbird developers seem to have adopted the
Microsoftism that nobody ever multitasks.

But in any case the "rewrap" affects only what you see at the sending
end. The text always goes out in the (nonstandard?) "format=flawed"
form, which is a nuisance because a lot of mail readers can't handle that.

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at ozebelg dot org
                                       peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses.  The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists.
My e-mail addresses at newcastle.edu.au will probably remain "live"
for a while, but then they will disappear without warning.
The optusnet address still has about 6 months of life left.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:32:31 +1100
From:  Peter Moylan <peter at ozebelg dot org>
Subject:  Re:  IBM ServeRAID 3L

Wayne wrote:

> Holden has a concept car called Efijy that uses 20W leds for
> headlights.

That sounds promising. Lately I've been seriously considering using
sunglasses for night driving, because of all the new cars that seem to
have megawatt-rated headlamps stuck permanently on high beam. The
blinding effect is as bad as being tailgated by a 4WD. There oughta be a
law!

-- 
Peter Moylan                          peter at ozebelg dot org
                                       peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au
                                       http://www.pmoylan dot org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses.  The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists.
My e-mail addresses at newcastle.edu.au will probably remain "live"
for a while, but then they will disappear without warning.
The optusnet address still has about 6 months of life left.
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