Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1131
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:02:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Sunday 26 June 2005
 Number  1131
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Partition corruption : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
2  Re:  Partition corruption : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
3  Re:  Partition corruption : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
4  Re:  Partition corruption : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
5   where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
6  Re:  where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
7  Re:  where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
8  Re:  Partition corruption : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
9  Re:  where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
10  Re:  where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
11   [Fwd: Request for testers with USB Scanners] : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
12  Re:  Partition corruption : Alan Duval <amoht at tpg dot com dot au>

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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:22:32 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Partition corruption

Alan Duval wrote:

> Hi Kris,
>
> I think you're right.  I think there was a problem writing to the CD 
> and had to shut down.
> Would I be advised to create 2 HPFS partitions  a bit larger than 2 GB 
> solely for RSJ's temp files , as I believe 2 GB is the maximum size 
> file that can be transferred to a CD by RSJ at one time.?
> My RSJ is installed in J:\CDWFS and eCS is in G: so if I create 2 new 
> partitions "N" & "O", how should I alter my config statement which reads:
>
> RUN=J:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "G:/TEMP" -c20000 -b2048 -t2 -i3 -s0
>
> G: has 2,322,233 KB free at present.

Hi Alan,

Just to confirm the terminology -- are you copying to CD, as stated, or 
to DVD?
The 2GB filesize limitation won't apply to any CD that you may be 
writing to whether using RSJ or anything else, only to DVDs! With your 
current config.sys setting of 20000 kilobytes [20MB] for the cache size, 
having four of these will still only account for 80MB, which is zilch on 
a volume with 2GB+ free.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:27:07 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Partition corruption

Mike O'Connor schreef:

> [Alan's]
>
Right.

> Hi Kris,
>
> I realise that, that's why I said *physical* disk system - because RSJ 
> uses the *logical* file-system facilities provided by OS/2-eCS.

Have to admit I don't understand. In my maybe not so good book, when a 
disk is filled with (a) file(s), that filling-up is a _physical_ 
phenomena, or to but it otherwise: when there is physically no room 
(free space) anymore on a disk it's logical to assume it's filled up. :-)

> You have to allow freespace equivalent to 4 times the size of the 
> nominal cache file.
>
Something like that indeed.
So, if you have forgotten to point the rsj cache to another partition 
than the boot drive, and your eCS partition has the recommended 700 MB  at  
1.5 Gige size, you are bound to get in trouble when you fiddle around 
with rsj and OCR and things like that. Especially as the temp files 
remain _physically_ present in their full glory after an undue rsj 
abort. :-))

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:42:13 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Partition corruption

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
> Mike O'Connor schreef:
>
>> Hi Kris,
>>
>> I realise that, that's why I said *physical* disk system - because 
>> RSJ uses the *logical* file-system facilities provided by OS/2-eCS.
>
> Have to admit I don't understand. In my maybe not so good book, when a 
> disk is filled with (a) file(s), that filling-up is a _physical_ 
> phenomena, or to but it otherwise: when there is physically no room 
> (free space) anymore on a disk it's logical to assume it's filled up. :-)
>
>> You have to allow freespace equivalent to 4 times the size of the 
>> nominal cache file.
>
> Something like that indeed.
> So, if you have forgotten to point the rsj cache to another partition 
> than the boot drive, and your eCS partition has the recommended 700 MB 
>  at  1.5 Gige size, you are bound to get in trouble when you fiddle 
> around with rsj and OCR and things like that. Especially as the temp 
> files remain _physically_ present in their full glory after an undue 
> rsj abort. :-))

Hi Kris,

Filling the *data* area of the disk has no connection with the MBR or 
any EPBR.
In Alan's case as his cache file was only 20MB on his boot partition 
which had 2GB free, that's no problem. It's simple to put a .cmd file in 
your startup folder that deletes all files in the %TEMP% & %TMP%  
directories and RSJ temp directory if different, at startup.

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Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:49:08 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Partition corruption

Hi Alan

What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ?
And what version/Applied FP of eCS ?

Good = 12/08/04  14:40    1269583           0  PMMERGE.DLL
BAD = 29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5
Good = 16/07/03  18:51    1269677           0  PMMERGE_DLL.BAK

The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with
large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things
like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network
but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things
happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful
things happen with
"29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL"

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

"I was a vegetarian until I started leaning towards sunlight." --Rita Rudner
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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:53:34 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:   where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL?

Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Alan
>
>What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ?
>And what version/Applied FP of eCS ?
>
>Good = 12/08/04  14:40    1269583           0  PMMERGE.DLL
>BAD = 29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5
>Good = 16/07/03  18:51    1269677           0  PMMERGE_DLL.BAK
>
>The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with
>large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things
>like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network
>but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things
>happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful
>things happen with
>"29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL"
>
Hi Ian,

I recently used eCSMT for the very first time, and of course this system 
at the time was an almost virginal eCS1.00 [it's the only one I have 
applied eCSMT to, so far - awaiting a response or two from Chuck 
McKinnis] and of course FP5 was one of the items processed. My new 
Archive directory shows that previous edition was from 2000, and I 
notice that my eCS 1.13 editions are dated 2002. I just had a quick look 
on os2site and came up with :

    Search of /sw/

  *Searching documents for: *pmmerge.dll

/1) /   OS/2 Site - Upgrades - Warp4 - Fixpack13 
<http://www.os2site.com/sw/upgrades/warp4/fixpack13/index.html> / Score= 
1000 / | , 17234 bytes |
    | Summary not available | 
/2) /   OS/2 Site - Upgrades - Patches 
<http://www.os2site.com/sw/upgrades/patches/index.html> / Score= 218 / | 
, 99730 bytes |
    | Summary not available | 
/3) /   IBM Software Group Support News 
<http://www.os2site.com/sw/upgrades/ibmfixnews.html> / Score= 83 / | , 
58263 bytes |
    IBM Software Group Support News
    <http://ps.software.ibm dot com/os2fixp/fixnews.html> 

/ Total of 3 matches /

   New search? <http://www.os2site.com/pages/search3.html>

Could you attach me a copy of that August 2004 version please? Or advise 
where available.

p.s. I had a very smooth transition to FP5, but notice that the system 
seems a lot less responsive than it previously was - haven'tencountered 
any of the disk problems you mention, but that may be because I don't 
have any gargantuan volumes - nothing over 5GB here on JFS [or other].

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:36:26 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL?

Hi Mike

Some people report no problems, others have problems, the
CP-FP5 PMMERGE.DLL just doesnt like somethings, or the
other way around. I'm not sure if eCSMT applies the backout
for OREXX and PMMERGE, there is one available from chuck
in the same directory on the ecomstation ftp site.

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:53:34 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:

>Ian Manners wrote:
>
>>Hi Alan
>>
>>What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ?
>>And what version/Applied FP of eCS ?
>>
>>Good = 12/08/04  14:40    1269583           0  PMMERGE.DLL
>>BAD = 29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5
>>Good = 16/07/03  18:51    1269677           0  PMMERGE_DLL.BAK
>>
>>The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with
>>large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things
>>like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network
>>but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things
>>happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful
>>things happen with
>>"29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL"
>>
>Hi Ian,
>
>I recently used eCSMT for the very first time, and of course this system 
>at the time was an almost virginal eCS1.00 [it's the only one I have 
>applied eCSMT to, so far - awaiting a response or two from Chuck 
>McKinnis] and of course FP5 was one of the items processed. My new 
>Archive directory shows that previous edition was from 2000, and I 
>notice that my eCS 1.13 editions are dated 2002. I just had a quick look 
>on os2site and came up with :
>
>
>    Search of /sw/
>
>  *Searching documents for: *pmmerge.dll
>
>/1) /   OS/2 Site - Upgrades - Warp4 - Fixpack13 
><http://www.os2site.com/sw/upgrades/warp4/fixpack13/index.html> / Score= 
>1000 / | , 17234 bytes |
>    | Summary not available | 
>/2) /   OS/2 Site - Upgrades - Patches 
><http://www.os2site.com/sw/upgrades/patches/index.html> / Score= 218 / | 
>, 99730 bytes |
>    | Summary not available | 
>/3) /   IBM Software Group Support News 
><http://www.os2site.com/sw/upgrades/ibmfixnews.html> / Score= 83 / | , 
>58263 bytes |
>    IBM Software Group Support News
>    <http://ps.software.ibm dot com/os2fixp/fixnews.html> 
>
>/ Total of 3 matches /
>
>   New search? <http://www.os2site.com/pages/search3.html>
>
>Could you attach me a copy of that August 2004 version please? Or advise 
>where available.
>
>p.s. I had a very smooth transition to FP5, but notice that the system 
>seems a lot less responsive than it previously was - haven'tencountered 
>any of the disk problems you mention, but that may be because I don't 
>have any gargantuan volumes - nothing over 5GB here on JFS [or other].
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Mike
>
>Failed the exam for
>--------------------
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>

> 

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:45:36 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL?

Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Mike
>
>Some people report no problems, others have problems, the
>CP-FP5 PMMERGE.DLL just doesnt like somethings, or the
>other way around. I'm not sure if eCSMT applies the backout
>for OREXX and PMMERGE, there is one available from chuck
>in the same directory on the ecomstation ftp site.
>
>On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:53:34 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>
>>Ian Manners wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Alan
>>>
>>>What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ?
>>>And what version/Applied FP of eCS ?
>>>
>>>Good = 12/08/04  14:40    1269583           0  PMMERGE.DLL
>>>BAD = 29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5
>>>Good = 16/07/03  18:51    1269677           0  PMMERGE_DLL.BAK
>>>
>>>The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with
>>>large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things
>>>like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful things happen with
>>>"29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL"
>>>
>>Hi Ian,
>>
>>I recently used eCSMT for the very first time, and of course this system 
>>at the time was an almost virginal eCS1.00 [it's the only one I have 
>>applied eCSMT to, so far - awaiting a response or two from Chuck 
>>McKinnis] and of course FP5 was one of the items processed. My new 
>>Archive directory shows that previous edition was from 2000, and I 
>>notice that my eCS 1.13 editions are dated 2002. I just had a quick look 
>>on os2site and came up with:
>>    
>>
(nil)

>>Could you attach me a copy of that August 2004 version please? Or advise 
>>where available.
>>
>>p.s. I had a very smooth transition to FP5, but notice that the system 
>>seems a lot less responsive than it previously was - haven'tencountered 
>>any of the disk problems you mention, but that may be because I don't 
>>have any gargantuan volumes - nothing over 5GB here on JFS [or other].
>>    
>>
Hi Ian,
Thanks for the information.
Was watching the Tennis for a while there!
I do remember a note that SNAP might need to be re-installed after 
applying FP5 - I did so after allowing the FP5 to overwrite current 
files, and that improved things significantly.

Actually with eCSMT,  was surprised that there was nothing in place to 
update the original eCS 1.0 eCS-Clock [the horrible L.E.D. version that 
never worked properly on my system] to the eCS 1.1 version that works 
fine, after applying the 19/07/2003 fix the author sent me to correct 
the time drift that occurs in zones that don't observe DST.

Found out that I could just copy the eCS 1.1 eclock-tree [from 
x:\ecs\system\eclock] to a new eCS 1.0 y:\os2\eclock\ tree and copy the 
clkdll.dll from x:\ecs\dll to y:\os2\dll, then make desktop objects for 
the World Clock and the Task Planner.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:23:34 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Partition corruption

Alan Duval schreef:

>
>
> I think you're right.  I think there was a problem writing to the CD 
> and had to shut down.
> Would I be advised to create 2 HPFS partitions  a bit larger than 2 GB 
> solely for RSJ's temp files , as I believe 2 GB is the maximum size 
> file that can be transferred to a CD by RSJ at one time.?

Good heavens!

Are you guys so short on diskspace or what?  In order to have never 
problems of that kind, just point to a VERY LARGE partition  would say  
(Pointed here to a 72 Gig jfs-partition with 40 gig free).

> My RSJ is installed in J:\CDWFS and eCS is in G: so if I create 2 new 
> partitions "N" & "O", how should I alter my config statement which reads:
>
Why do you desperately want to create new partitons just to host 
temporary files?

> RUN=J:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "G:/TEMP" -c20000 -b2048 -t2 -i3 -s0
>
> G: has 2,322,233 KB free at present.
>
No wonder you had problems, as I'm pretty sure your swappath was/is 
pointed to that same partition too.
Anyway, to point your jfs temp files to your boot partition must be 
avoided at all costs. For the very reasons you now are aware of I'm sure.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:46:16 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL?

For those looking for it

>Could you attach me a copy of that August 2004 version please? Or advise 
>where available.

http://os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/cp/fp5_up.zip

And for the "12/08/04  14:40    1269583           0  PMMERGE.DLL"
you can find it at

http://os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/cp/pmr03821.zip

This is a testcase PMMERGE so your milage may, or may not vary.

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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:58:33 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL?

Ian Manners wrote:

>"12/08/04  14:40    1269583           0  PMMERGE.DLL"
>you can find it at
>
>http://os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/cp/pmr03821.zip
>
>This is a testcase PMMERGE so your milage may, or may not vary.
>  
>
Hi Ian,

Thanks for that!

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:54:35 +0930
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:   [Fwd: Request for testers with USB Scanners]

For anyone that doesn't get the Voice News List....

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Request for testers with USB Scanners
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:16:36 +0930
From: Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
To: submit at os2voice dot org, Steve Wendt <stevew at hartnell.cc.ca.us>, 
martin at os2world dot com

Hi All,
I've started work to make Sane work with USB Scanners on OS/2 using the
usbcalls package  by Markus Montkowski available from Netlabs.

As a precursor, I've compiled sane-find-scanner.exe which correctly
identified the scanner on my machine.

I'd appreciate it if testers with a USB scanner would download
http://smedley.info/sane-find-scanner.zip and send me the report from
running:
sane-find-scanner -v

Note that this may require a newer version of usbresmg.sys than eCS 1.2
ships with.  I had system traps with gPhoto2.

If traps in os2krnl are experienced with this build, please update
usbresmg.sys using the package at http://smedley.info/usbresmg.zip

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

NOTE: this will not scan - all it will do is detect (hopefully!) a USB
scanner attached to your PC.

Cheers,

Paul.

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Date:  Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:51:16 +0100
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Partition corruption

Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Alan
>
>What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ?
>And what version/Applied FP of eCS ?
>
>Good = 12/08/04  14:40    1269583           0  PMMERGE.DLL
>BAD = 29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5
>Good = 16/07/03  18:51    1269677           0  PMMERGE_DLL.BAK
>
>The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with
>large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things
>like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network
>but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things
>happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful
>things happen with
>"29/12/04  19:33    1270499          49  PMMERGE.DLL"
>
>Cheers
>Ian Manners
>http://www.os2site dot com/
>
>"I was a vegetarian until I started leaning towards sunlight." --Rita Rudner

> 

>
>
>
>  
>
Hi Ian,

I have eCS 1.1 installed. I applied eCSMT some months ago to bring it up 
to 1.2 level so I am not sure what level it is at.
Running 'ver' says the version is 4.5.
 Re:  PMMERGE.dll
Creation date  1/12/04
Time:   10:39:56
Size:      1,269,677 bytes

I have reinstalled eCS from an image since my recent troubles and hence 
the time problems with my Emails. I don't think the time statement in 
config.sys was altered in this image and I have lost the alteration I 
should make to correct matters. Could you advise what it should be.

Incidently, tonight  Mozilla mail froze when I tried to start it so I 
had to reboot and again the system wouldn't boot and HD 1 couldn't be 
seen. Nor could I boot my floppy version of DFSee.  I disconnected 
everything and set up the PC on a table where I could check it and it 
booted correctly. I then tried the previous Primary disk but it wasn't 
recognized so the partition tables are definitely corrupted.
Why is this problem recurring?  Till recently it's been a reliable system.

Regards,

Alan Duval

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