Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1119
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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:02:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Friday 03 June 2005
 Number  1119
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Warp FP15 woes : Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
2   Problems again with Firefox : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Problems again with Firefox : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  Problems again with Firefox : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
5  Re:  Problems again with Firefox : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
6  Re:  Problems again with Firefox : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re:  Problems again with Firefox : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
8  Re:  Problems again with Firefox : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
9  Re:  Problems again with Firefox : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
10  Re:  DVD writable disks : Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>

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Date:  Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:17:13 -0400
From:  Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Warp FP15 woes

( apologies for the late input ).

Glenn-via-John, if you haven't resolved this yet,
try this refinement of Ed's suggestions

* background:
  - vw32.sys is IBM's eMulatedDOS/WinOS2 driver for W32s
  - some verions won't load properly ( or something like that )

SO:

* follow Ed's suggestions to boot to an OS/2 command prompt
  ( ALT-F1, select Command Prompt option ).

* COPY config.sys to something that means something to you
  ( eg config.nfg )

* type TEDIT CONFIG.SYS
  ( should start a TEDIT session on config.sys )

* press ESCape to move the cursor into the text area
  ( from the 'command' line at the bottom of the screen )

* scroll through the text to find 
  DEVICE=VW32.SYS ( or something like that )

* REMark it ( make it a comment )

* press F2 to save changes
            F3 to exit back to OS/2 prompt.

* type EXIT for a reboot.

* IF you can't get to a command prompt from your boot from hard disk,
  boot from the OS/2 install floppies and select F3
  to exit to command prompt
  at one of the early screens in  the install process

  That command prompt will be at A:,
  but you should be able to TEDIT C:CONFIG.SYS
  OR C:\OS2\TEDIT\CONFIG.SYS

Good luck.

Regards
Chris.

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Glenn Montgomery wrote:

>Hello John,
>
>Long time no speak. Trust you and yours are all well.
>
>Could you please relay this to the os/2 list as I cannot get through
presumably
>because I am not using my email. My system went down in a smouldering
heap,
>gradually but definitely!!!
>
>Thanks John
>Glenn.
>
>Hello all,
>
>After my os/2 system's demise, I have since re-installed os/2 and applied
fp15.
>I then rebooted only to get part way through, where a message came up
(very
>briefly) with something about vw32.sys?? (i'm pretty sure that was the
file
>mentioned) then the system rebooted, and I have not been able to get in
since.
>Once I select os/2 from boot manager menu. I get the briefest os little
white
>os/2 box then it reboots.
>
>I previously used fp12 and it worked on this hardware.
>
>Any help would be extremely wonderful.
>
>Many Thanks
>Glenn Montgomery
>
>
>  
>
OK, first thing to try ....

restart and when the [] OS/2 appears, press Alt+F1 and select one of the 
archives - presuming you have archiving turned on. There should be 3 
choices, I tend to go for the middle one, number 2.

If this doesn't work or if you haven't any archives, go bck into ALT+F1 
again and this time select to go to the command line (F2 option I 
think). See if the system boots to a command prompt. If it does run 
chkdsk /F on all drices apart from the one you have booted onto 
(normally C:). Then run Chkdsk C: and see if any errors are displayed. 
If there are errors displayed, then you will need to restart the system 
either from an OS/2 boot diskette or from your Warp 4 install CD - Press 
F3 when given the option. Run chkdsk C: /f  from here and hope chkdsk 
can fix the errors.

If none of this helps, Its time to wipe the partition and re-install !!

You may wish to consider this as a chance to update to the current 
level, by going to mensys.nl and ordering an OS/2 Warp 4 to eComstation 
version 1.2 CD and booklet (or digital delivery if you want to burn the 
install CDs yourself).

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:07:01 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Problems again with Firefox

I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from IBM 
Web Browser - now it's back again.

If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL - 
however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, the 
browser starts up withou any problems.

The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no 
reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in 
either the path or libpath statements in config.sys.

As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the 
XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs 
XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ??

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:20:44 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Problems again with Firefox

Ed Durrant wrote:

> I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from 
> IBM Web Browser - now it's back again.
>
> If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL 
> - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, 
> the browser starts up withou any problems.
>
> The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no 
> reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in 
> either the path or libpath statements in config.sys.
>
> As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the 
> XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs 
> XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ??
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
> -

Some more information. If I start Firefox from it's icon and thunderbird 
is NOT running it starts OK, only if I have started thunderbird file 
(and presumably it's version of xpcom.dll is in memory) do I get the 
problem.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:55:40 +0930
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  Problems again with Firefox

Hi Ed,

Ed Durrant wrote:
> I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from IBM 
> Web Browser - now it's back again.
> 
> If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL - 
> however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, the 
> browser starts up withou any problems.
> 
> The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no 
> reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in 
> either the path or libpath statements in config.sys.
> 
> As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the 
> XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs 
> XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ??
> 
I've seen this before, however as I recall, I had to start Firefox 
first, and if Firefox was running, then Thunderbird would start.  If 
Thunderbird was started first, Firefox wouldn't start.

I'm not sure if copying Thunderbird's xpcom would work - my solution is 
to use Rich Walsh's run utility.

I have run! copied into the FF directory as firefox!.exe and use this to 
launch firefox.

I have run! copied into the Tbird directory as thunderbird!l.exe and use 
this to launch Thunderbird.

These set the necessary libstrict etc statements to allow different 
versions of thunderbird & firefox to coexist nicely.

Cheers,

Paul.

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:44:29 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Problems again with Firefox

Ed
Why do you meed to run the IBM Web Browser?

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>> I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from 
>> IBM Web Browser - now it's back again.
>>
>> If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL 
>> - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, 
>> the browser starts up withou any problems.
>>
>> The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no 
>> reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in 
>> either the path or libpath statements in config.sys.
>>
>> As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the 
>> XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs 
>> XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ??
>>
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
>> -
>
>
> Some more information. If I start Firefox from it's icon and 
> thunderbird is NOT running it starts OK, only if I have started 
> thunderbird file (and presumably it's version of xpcom.dll is in 
> memory) do I get the problem.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:00:41 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Problems again with Firefox

Paul Smedley wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>> I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from 
>> IBM Web Browser - now it's back again.
>>
>> If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL 
>> - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, 
>> the browser starts up withou any problems.
>>
>> The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no 
>> reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in 
>> either the path or libpath statements in config.sys.
>>
>> As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the 
>> XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs 
>> XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ??
>>
> I've seen this before, however as I recall, I had to start Firefox 
> first, and if Firefox was running, then Thunderbird would start.  If 
> Thunderbird was started first, Firefox wouldn't start.
>
> I'm not sure if copying Thunderbird's xpcom would work - my solution 
> is to use Rich Walsh's run utility.
>
> I have run! copied into the FF directory as firefox!.exe and use this 
> to launch firefox.
>
> I have run! copied into the Tbird directory as thunderbird!l.exe and 
> use this to launch Thunderbird.
>
> These set the necessary libstrict etc statements to allow different 
> versions of thunderbird & firefox to coexist nicely.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> -

 Hi,

   Yes you have mentioned the Run! utility before however what I can't 
understand is that a week ago I could start these programs in either 
order without problems. What I have done in the meantime is to 
re-install Innotek Java 1.42 and link it into the Firefox Browser.

   By the way using either the firefox version of xcom.dll with 
thunderbird and the reverse made no difference at all !

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:03:14 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Problems again with Firefox

I don't (any more) but until Firefox and Thunderbird progressed to a 
reliable version, I needed IBMs OS2WEB for browsing and e-mail (and a 
good job it did too !)

If I can "re-fix" this XPCOM problem - then I'll probably totally remove 
Mozilla and IBM WB.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> Ed
> Why do you meed to run the IBM Web Browser?
>
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>> I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from 
>>> IBM Web Browser - now it's back again.
>>>
>>> If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in 
>>> XPCOM.DLL - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in 
>>> Thunderbird, the browser starts up withou any problems.
>>>
>>> The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no 
>>> reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in 
>>> either the path or libpath statements in config.sys.
>>>
>>> As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the 
>>> XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs 
>>> XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ??
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers/2
>>>
>>> Ed.
>>> -
>>
>>
>>
>> Some more information. If I start Firefox from it's icon and 
>> thunderbird is NOT running it starts OK, only if I have started 
>> thunderbird file (and presumably it's version of xpcom.dll is in 
>> memory) do I get the problem.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
 
>
> 

>

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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:17:24 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Problems again with Firefox

Ed Durrant wrote:

> I don't (any more) but until Firefox and Thunderbird progressed to a 
> reliable version, I needed IBMs OS2WEB for browsing and e-mail (and a 
> good job it did too !)
>
> If I can "re-fix" this XPCOM problem - then I'll probably totally 
> remove Mozilla and IBM WB.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>
>> Ed
>> Why do you meed to run the IBM Web Browser?
>
Hi Ed, Dennis,

Not using either Firefox or Thunderbird, does either of these include 
the functions of the IBM WB/WarpMozilla "Composer" component - i.e 
in-situ GUI editing of webpages/tags/anchors etc?
In my case I frequently edit out unwanted sections of saved webpages, 
and occasionally need it to save the contents of some shtml pages that 
don't allow "saving" as webpage.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:02:03 +1000 (AEST)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Problems again with Firefox

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:17:24 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:

Hi Mike.

>Hi Ed, Dennis,
>
>Not using either Firefox or Thunderbird, does either of these include 
>the functions of the IBM WB/WarpMozilla "Composer" component - i.e 
>in-situ GUI editing of webpages/tags/anchors etc?
>In my case I frequently edit out unwanted sections of saved webpages, 
>and occasionally need it to save the contents of some shtml pages that 
>don't allow "saving" as webpage.

What you appear to be after is the NVU module http://www.nvu dot com/ 
and http://www.os2site dot com/sw/internet/editors/nvu-0.80-os2.zip
which may look as if it is an overkill but then I don't know what else you do
to web sites ...<g>

But according to Wikipedia (who trusts wikipedia? <g>)
http://en.wikipedia dot org/wiki/NVu, it is based on the Composer from the Moz
suite.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:58:36 +0930
From:  Leigh Bunting <vh_gdn at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  DVD writable disks

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Or are you using a Hi-Fi DVD recorder ??

Hi Ed,

Correct guess this time. A Pioneer DVD recorder with a 80G HDD. Hell, I 
only have a 10G HDD in the PC I'm now using - and that's only half full.

The recorder is great for editing out all the rubbish. It will do down 
to the frame - and for removing all the ads. Makes watching an F1 GP  
worth it.

Cheers,

Leigh

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