Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1117
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:02:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Monday 30 May 2005
 Number  1117
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Wireless PC Card with Warp 3 : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
5  Re:  GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6   Warp FP15 woes : Glenn Montgomery <jagmonty at aapt dot net dot au>
7  Re:  GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
8  Re:  GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
9   OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
10  Re:  OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
11  Re:  Warp FP15 woes : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
12  Re:  GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
13  Re:  OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
14  Re:  OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night : Ian Manners" <deadmail>

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Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 07:56:43 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Wireless PC Card with Warp 3

David Shearer wrote:

>On an old Thinkpad (P133 365XD) I installed Warp 3 with fix pak 38 and installed the lan 
>and tcpip apps from the Warp 3 Connect CD ROM.  To my surprise i can get wireless 
>lan and internet support - it works with the IBM Hi Rate Wireless PC Card drivers and 
>gives lan and internet access.
>
>Admittedly, internet support is a bit lacking on Warp 3 - but at least it works - talk about 
>backward compatibility!!!
>
>David Shearer 
>
>  
>
Hi David,

Out of interest, which PCMCIA WLAN WiFi card are you using ??

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 08:04:21 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files

Dennis Nolan wrote:

>
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I've just noticed that the1Gb partition I have reserved for Internet 
>>> use only has 112Mb free.
>>>
>>> Upon investigation I find in my Firefox Profiles dennis directory 
>>> that I have some 3182 bookmark files.
>>> Looking at the creation dates, it seems that whenever I use the 
>>> bookmark tag in firefox it writes a new copy of the file.
>>> As most of the files seem to be over 220Kb, they consume over 700Mb 
>>> of the disk.
>>>
>>> So anybody know why this is happening and how to stop it.
>>>
>>> I'm using ver 1.0
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>> Is it possible that your bookmarks file has its attrib set to 
>> read-only ?? The total space use in my version of the directory is 
>> about 900KB.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
> No Ed
> They are all set to archive only
>
> I've just dowmloaded and installed the latest version 1.0.4  same 
> story, multiple bookmarks files.
>
> I've just been doing some tests and a new bookmark file seems to be 
> created every 15 seconds or so.
> I don't know if it needs to be triggered by clicking the bookmark tab 
> first.
>
> I've just fired up the Thinkpad, no problem there.
>
> Now the only real difference is that I have a seperate Profiles 
> directory, the profiles for firefox and thunderbird are 
> sub-directories of it.
> I have a directory Internet with Thunderbird and firefox sub directories
> also a directory Profiles again with Mozilla and thunderbird 
> sub-directories. Firefox is a sub-directory of mozilla.
>
> I also notice that there is no bookmarks.bak file
>
> I'll try creating one and see what happens.
>
> Regards
>
> Dennis.
>
All sounds a bit strange. As you say iy could be to do with the 
directory structure but why would it create a new file every 15 seconds ??

When you say you just installed version 1.04, did you first de-install 
the previous version or installed over the top ?

I use firefox v 1.04 and my profile directory is under firefox, under 
mozilla as you say and I don't have the problem (or at least not yet). I 
do have a bookmarks.bak file but why would that be relevant ??  This 15 
seconds creation may be the key. Try typing  about:config in the URL 
field and see if there is any setting, set to 15 seconds..

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 08:07:04 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files

OK then, ignore my previous suggestions ...

I had read somewhere that firefox could have a problem if the bookmarks 
file was set to read-only, hidden will of course cause a similar 
problem, where it can't write the file, so it will create a temporary 
one under a new name. If as you say the bak file is hidden and perhaps 
it retrys the backup every 15 seconds, then yes, this makes sense !

But what set the attributes to hidden ???

Cheers/2

Ed.

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> Problem seems to be resolved
>
> The files Bookmarks.html and Bookmarks.bak had their hidden attribute 
> set.
>
> I cleared the hidden attribute ans now everything seems to be ok.
>
> Regards
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> I've just noticed that the1Gb partition I have reserved for 
>>>> Internet use only has 112Mb free.
>>>>
>>>> Upon investigation I find in my Firefox Profiles dennis directory 
>>>> that I have some 3182 bookmark files.
>>>> Looking at the creation dates, it seems that whenever I use the 
>>>> bookmark tag in firefox it writes a new copy of the file.
>>>> As most of the files seem to be over 220Kb, they consume over 700Mb 
>>>> of the disk.
>>>>
>>>> So anybody know why this is happening and how to stop it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using ver 1.0
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>> Is it possible that your bookmarks file has its attrib set to 
>>> read-only ?? The total space use in my version of the directory is 
>>> about 900KB.
>>>
>>> Cheers/2
>>>
>>> Ed.
 
>>>
>>> 

>>>
>>>
>> No Ed
>> They are all set to archive only
>>
>> I've just dowmloaded and installed the latest version 1.0.4  same 
>> story, multiple bookmarks files.
>>
>> I've just been doing some tests and a new bookmark file seems to be 
>> created every 15 seconds or so.
>> I don't know if it needs to be triggered by clicking the bookmark tab 
>> first.
>>
>> I've just fired up the Thinkpad, no problem there.
>>
>> Now the only real difference is that I have a seperate Profiles 
>> directory, the profiles for firefox and thunderbird are 
>> sub-directories of it.
>> I have a directory Internet with Thunderbird and firefox sub directories
>> also a directory Profiles again with Mozilla and thunderbird 
>> sub-directories. Firefox is a sub-directory of mozilla.
>>
>> I also notice that there is no bookmarks.bak file
>>
>> I'll try creating one and see what happens.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dennis.
>>
>>
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
 
>
> 

>

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 08:00:21 +0930
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files

Hi Guys,

On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:

>OK then, ignore my previous suggestions ...
>
>I had read somewhere that firefox could have a problem if the bookmarks
>file was set to read-only, hidden will of course cause a similar
>problem, where it can't write the file, so it will create a temporary
>one under a new name. If as you say the bak file is hidden and perhaps
>it retrys the backup every 15 seconds, then yes, this makes sense !
>
>But what set the attributes to hidden ???
I believe a bug in mozilla that should be fixed now....

Cheers,

Paul.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 08:43:56 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files

Paul Smedley wrote:

>Hi Guys,
>
>On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>OK then, ignore my previous suggestions ...
>>
>>I had read somewhere that firefox could have a problem if the bookmarks
>>file was set to read-only, hidden will of course cause a similar
>>problem, where it can't write the file, so it will create a temporary
>>one under a new name. If as you say the bak file is hidden and perhaps
>>it retrys the backup every 15 seconds, then yes, this makes sense !
>>
>>But what set the attributes to hidden ???
>>    
>>
>I believe a bug in mozilla that should be fixed now....
>
>Cheers,
>
>  
>

Thanks for that clarification Paul.

On GPhoto2 have you been able to transfer pictures etc. from your Kodak 
camera ?  I tried both of my cheap digital camera and neither were 
recognised (which didn't surprise me). If the software works and there's 
a list of supported cameras, this may be a good time for me to purchase 
a more "mainstream" digital camera !

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 17:31:43 +1000
From:  Glenn Montgomery <jagmonty at aapt dot net dot au>
Subject:   Warp FP15 woes

Hello John,

Long time no speak. Trust you and yours are all well.

Could you please relay this to the os/2 list as I cannot get through presumably
because I am not using my email. My system went down in a smouldering heap,
gradually but definitely!!!

Thanks John
Glenn.

Hello all,

After my os/2 system's demise, I have since re-installed os/2 and applied fp15.
I then rebooted only to get part way through, where a message came up (very
briefly) with something about vw32.sys?? (i'm pretty sure that was the file
mentioned) then the system rebooted, and I have not been able to get in since.
Once I select os/2 from boot manager menu. I get the briefest os little white
os/2 box then it reboots.

I previously used fp12 and it worked on this hardware.

Any help would be extremely wonderful.

Many Thanks
Glenn Montgomery

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 10:33:44 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files

Hi all

I have my profiles separate from the firefox and thunderbird directory 
structure so that when I install the new version I first delete the old 
version by deleting the firefox or thunderbird directory, then I unzip 
the new version, move the directory to the correct location and start 
the application, which enables it

Then all I have to do is re-create the shadow of the executable on the 
desktop.

I've found that this works well.

Also if reinstalling eCS, exclude Mozilla and Netscape from the install. 
Then there seems to be no problem getting firefox as the default browser.

regards

Dennis.

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Paul Smedley wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> OK then, ignore my previous suggestions ...
>>>
>>> I had read somewhere that firefox could have a problem if the bookmarks
>>> file was set to read-only, hidden will of course cause a similar
>>> problem, where it can't write the file, so it will create a temporary
>>> one under a new name. If as you say the bak file is hidden and perhaps
>>> it retrys the backup every 15 seconds, then yes, this makes sense !
>>>
>>> But what set the attributes to hidden ???
>>>   
>>
>> I believe a bug in mozilla that should be fixed now....
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>  
>>
>
> Thanks for that clarification Paul.
>
> On GPhoto2 have you been able to transfer pictures etc. from your 
> Kodak camera ?  I tried both of my cheap digital camera and neither 
> were recognised (which didn't surprise me). If the software works and 
> there's a list of supported cameras, this may be a good time for me to 
> purchase a more "mainstream" digital camera !
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 10:43:30 +0930
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files

Hi Ed,

On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:
>On GPhoto2 have you been able to transfer pictures etc. from your Kodak
>camera ?  I tried both of my cheap digital camera and neither were
>recognised (which didn't surprise me). If the software works and there's
>a list of supported cameras, this may be a good time for me to purchase
>a more "mainstream" digital camera !

There's a large list of 'supported' cameras at gphoto dot net

I haven't yet been able to transfer pictures from my Kodak camera -
however - I've been using a USB memory card reader to transfer files
for the last 2 years or so with my camera.

I'd like to use gphoto just to remove the hassle of having to remove the
memory card - much easier to be able to drop the camera in the dock and
fire up gphoto...

Cheers,

Paul.
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 15:07:37 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:   OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night

On NCS last night, where they were looking into the fake death of a Navy 
computer geek, when the NCS geek had to translate a quip about a 
difference in opinion about the meaning of a regular guy
The NCS geek said that "one man's Linnux is another man's OS/2."

It was so unexpected that it took ten or fifteen seconds for me to 
realise what he was saying.

Regards
Dennis.
 
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 15:53:28 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night

Dennis Nolan said:
> On NCS last night,

what is NCS ?

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 20:15:22 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Warp FP15 woes

Glenn Montgomery wrote:

>Hello John,
>
>Long time no speak. Trust you and yours are all well.
>
>Could you please relay this to the os/2 list as I cannot get through presumably
>because I am not using my email. My system went down in a smouldering heap,
>gradually but definitely!!!
>
>Thanks John
>Glenn.
>
>Hello all,
>
>After my os/2 system's demise, I have since re-installed os/2 and applied fp15.
>I then rebooted only to get part way through, where a message came up (very
>briefly) with something about vw32.sys?? (i'm pretty sure that was the file
>mentioned) then the system rebooted, and I have not been able to get in since.
>Once I select os/2 from boot manager menu. I get the briefest os little white
>os/2 box then it reboots.
>
>I previously used fp12 and it worked on this hardware.
>
>Any help would be extremely wonderful.
>
>Many Thanks
>Glenn Montgomery
>
>
>  
>
OK, first thing to try ....

restart and when the [] OS/2 appears, press Alt+F1 and select one of the 
archives - presuming you have archiving turned on. There should be 3 
choices, I tend to go for the middle one, number 2.

If this doesn't work or if you haven't any archives, go bck into ALT+F1 
again and this time select to go to the command line (F2 option I 
think). See if the system boots to a command prompt. If it does run 
chkdsk /F on all drices apart from the one you have booted onto 
(normally C:). Then run Chkdsk C: and see if any errors are displayed. 
If there are errors displayed, then you will need to restart the system 
either from an OS/2 boot diskette or from your Warp 4 install CD - Press 
F3 when given the option. Run chkdsk C: /f  from here and hope chkdsk 
can fix the errors.

If none of this helps, Its time to wipe the partition and re-install !!

You may wish to consider this as a chance to update to the current 
level, by going to mensys.nl and ordering an OS/2 Warp 4 to eComstation 
version 1.2 CD and booklet (or digital delivery if you want to burn the 
install CDs yourself).

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 20:39:12 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files

Paul Smedley wrote:

>Hi Ed,
>
>On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:
>  
>
>>On GPhoto2 have you been able to transfer pictures etc. from your Kodak
>>camera ?  I tried both of my cheap digital camera and neither were
>>recognised (which didn't surprise me). If the software works and there's
>>a list of supported cameras, this may be a good time for me to purchase
>>a more "mainstream" digital camera !
>>    
>>
>
>There's a large list of 'supported' cameras at gphoto dot net
>
>I haven't yet been able to transfer pictures from my Kodak camera -
>however - I've been using a USB memory card reader to transfer files
>for the last 2 years or so with my camera.
>
>I'd like to use gphoto just to remove the hassle of having to remove the
>memory card - much easier to be able to drop the camera in the dock and
>fire up gphoto...
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul.
>  
>
 Hi Paul,

   That's Gphoto dot org not Gphoto dot net (that seems to be a gateway to every 
kind of site - financial, games, music etc. etc.).

    I didn't realise that GPhoto2 was NOT the OS/2 version of GPhoto but 
just the 2nd generation of GPhoto and yes apparently it's supposed to 
support over 500 different cameras !

    Interesting that the Kodak can't simply bee see as a USB MSD device 
as my "cheap and cherful" digital camera can ! I guess it runs some 
proprietry protocol ??

   Anyway, I'm off to look though the list.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 30 May 2005 20:44:27 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night

Voytek Eymont wrote:

>Dennis Nolan said:
>  
>
>>On NCS last night,
>>    
>>
>
>what is NCS ?
>
>
>  
>
I think he meant NCIS - its an american police type weekly program on 
Channel 10 TV 9:30 to 11 o'clock I think.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 23:58:48 -1100
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night

I'm still trying to figure out of that was derogatory or not myself
actually :-)

And yes, took me by surprise as well.

On 5/29/2005, "Dennis Nolan" <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au> wrote:

>On NCS last night, where they were looking into the fake death of a Navy
>computer geek, when the NCS geek had to translate a quip about a
>difference in opinion about the meaning of a regular guy
>The NCS geek said that "one man's Linnux is another man's OS/2."
>
>It was so unexpected that it took ten or fifteen seconds for me to
>realise what he was saying.
>
>Regards
>Dennis.
>

> 

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