Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1116
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 00:02:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Sunday 29 May 2005
 Number  1116
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  [VOICENWS] Event: (reminder) OS/2 VOICE speakup about Open Watcom compiler : madodel at ptdprolog dot net
2   Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
4  Re:  Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
6  Re:  Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7   NetFinity : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
8  Re:  NetFinity : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  NetFinity : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
10   Firefox Bookmarks files : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
11  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
12   Wireless PC Card with Warp 3 : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
13  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
14  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 28 May 2005 15:34:39 -0300
From:  madodel at ptdprolog dot net
Subject:  Re:  [VOICENWS] Event: (reminder) OS/2 VOICE speakup about Open Watcom compiler

I don't recall seing this on this list so I thought I'd pass it on in case
anyone is interested and doesn't subscribe to VOICE News

Mark

++ From the VOICE OS/2-eComStation News Service http://www.os2voice dot org ++

From: "John Edwards" <secretaryDESPAM at DESPAMos2voice dot org> 

Dear OS/2/eComStation user,

This is the reminder for the second speakup about the Open Watcom compiler
targetted at Asia and Australia.

What is a SpeakUp? Well, its organized via IRC (Internet Relay Chat). On
an IRC SpeakUp you will get a chance to talk to software developers, for
instance. The person/organization/company invited for the SpeakUp will
give a short introduction about himself and the product or project they
work on. And then the real part of the SpeakUp starts! You can ask
questions! If you like the information exchange at Warpstock
(www.warpstock dot org), then you will like VOICE SpeakUps (depending on the
subject, of course).

We will try and organize SpeakUps every month on a subject of interest.

The topic for this SpeakUp is the Open Watcom compiler.

The guest for this SpeakUp is Michal Necasek.
 
What is new, is that SpeakUps will be organized twice. The first VOICE
SpeakUp of the month will be targeted especially at the US. The second
meeting will be targeted at Asia and Australia. This targeting will be
accomplished by the timing of the IRC to suit the locale.

The first speakup on Open Watcom was on May 14th and was targetted at
America and Europe. Anybody who wants to prepare for the meeting you can
find a log file of the IRC speakup here:
http://www.os2voice dot org/logs/V051405.log.html

The next speakup is targetted at Asia and Australia and *starts* on :
 Saturday May 28, 2005 23:00 GMT
 Saturday May 28, 2005 19:00 EDT (New York)
 Saturday May 28 2005 16:00 PDT (California)
 Sunday   May 29, 2005, 01:00 CET (Paris,Europe)
 Sunday   May 29, 2005 07:00 JST (Tokyo/Japan)
 Sunday   May 29, 2005 09:00 (Australia/Sydney)

Visit http://www.timezoneconverter dot com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc for timezone help.

To find the server closest to you, go to http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ .

Channel #voice can be found on any of these servers.  

If you don't have a IRC client. You can use a web browser to get on the
IRC VOICE channel. If you use the Mozilla web browser use the following
link:

irc://irc.fyrelizard dot com/voice

If you don't use Mozilla (Opera or the IBM web browser for instance) use
the following link 

http://irc.fyrelizard dot com/ (requires JAVA)

"VOICE is an organization dedicated to the promotion of OS/2 Warp and
eComStation to the general consumer through various activities as
providing current and factual information about OS/2 Warp and OS/2 related
products, conducting IRC meetings twice a month, and
sponsoring OS/2 promotion related projects among providing many other
services."

Roderick Klein
President

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
John W. Edwards                   secretaryDESPAM at DESPAMos2voice dot org
Secretary, V.O.I.C.E,

--
 Warpstock 2005 - Hershey, Pennsylvania, Oct. 6-9 http://www.warpstock dot org
 Warpstock Europe 2005 - Dresden, Germany, Nov. 18-20
http://www.warpstock dot net

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Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 08:33:45 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed

Hi,

  I'm trying to change from using IBM Web Browser (equiv to Mozilla v 
1.7) over to using the separate Firefox and Thunderbird components (as 
these are still being developed).

  I have installed firefox v 1.04 and it runs without problems alongside 
IBM WB. When I have installed Thunderbird v 1.02 however, when I click 
on a link to a website I get an abort in XPCOM.DLL.

  I have none of the programs directories in the path or libpath 
statement however I do have the Mozilla Home statement set in config.sys 
to point to the IBM WB directory.

  From the message, it looks to me as if Thunderbird is trying to launch 
IBM WB rather than Firefox and has a conflict of a different version of 
the DLL.

  Can antone tell me how to change the "default browser" inder OS2/eCS 
to use Firefox rather than IBM Web Browser, or at least to tell 
Thunderbird to use Firefox ?

  Could it be the Mozilla Home set statement that is causing this 
problem or is it a matter that I will have to remove all traces of IBM 
WB and Mozilla before Firefox and Thunderbird will work ??

Cheers/2

Ed.

P.S. Thunderbird and Firefox both have different versions of XPCOM.DLL, 
so even if I remove IBM WB and I still going to get problems ??
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Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 08:20:17 +0930
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed

Hi Ed,

Ed Durrant wrote:
>  Can antone tell me how to change the "default browser" inder OS2/eCS to 
> use Firefox rather than IBM Web Browser, or at least to tell Thunderbird 
> to use Firefox ?
Easiest way is to use 
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/misc/configapps1_1_1.zip

> P.S. Thunderbird and Firefox both have different versions of XPCOM.DLL, 
> so even if I remove IBM WB and I still going to get problems ??

Possibly - I start Firefox & Thunderbird using Run! - also available 
from Hobbes.  Using runs sets libstrictt, etc but doesn't require using 
a batchfile...

Cheers,

Paul.
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Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 09:09:25 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed

Paul Smedley wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>>  Can antone tell me how to change the "default browser" inder OS2/eCS 
>> to use Firefox rather than IBM Web Browser, or at least to tell 
>> Thunderbird to use Firefox ?
>
> Easiest way is to use 
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/misc/configapps1_1_1.zip
>
>> P.S. Thunderbird and Firefox both have different versions of 
>> XPCOM.DLL, so even if I remove IBM WB and I still going to get 
>> problems ??
>
>
> Possibly - I start Firefox & Thunderbird using Run! - also available 
> from Hobbes.  Using runs sets libstrictt, etc but doesn't require 
> using a batchfile...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
 
>
> 

>
Thanks Paul,

    Config apps fixed it up, so it was the os2.ini setting.

    On another point, you just posted about GPhoto2 on Voice - you said 
this version can now see your camera - what is the command line 
parameter you used for it to do the scan ?? I can't see from the help 
text what would be sensible. Also are you talking about capturing video 
or only still pictures from the camera and what make/model of camera do 
you have please ?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 09:22:15 +0930
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed

Hi Ed,

Ed Durrant wrote:
>    On another point, you just posted about GPhoto2 on Voice - you said 
> this version can now see your camera - what is the command line 
> parameter you used for it to do the scan ?? I can't see from the help 
> text what would be sensible. Also are you talking about capturing video 
> or only still pictures from the camera and what make/model of camera do 
> you have please ?

I ran gphoto2 --auto-detect and gphoto2 showed:
Model                          Port
----------------------------------------------------------
Kodak DX7440                   usb:

I'm just sitting down now to work out if it will transfer photos for me 
:)  Will let you know how I go in a little while.

Cheers,

Paul.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 10:55:09 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Running Firefox and thunderbird on a system with IBM WB & Mozilla installed

Paul Smedley wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>>    On another point, you just posted about GPhoto2 on Voice - you 
>> said this version can now see your camera - what is the command line 
>> parameter you used for it to do the scan ?? I can't see from the help 
>> text what would be sensible. Also are you talking about capturing 
>> video or only still pictures from the camera and what make/model of 
>> camera do you have please ?
>
>
> I ran gphoto2 --auto-detect and gphoto2 showed:
> Model                          Port
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Kodak DX7440                   usb:
>
> I'm just sitting down now to work out if it will transfer photos for 
> me :)  Will let you know how I go in a little while.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.

Hi Paul,

   In my case, GPhoto2 doesn't recognise my (cheap) Everex camera. - It 
was worth a try ! It works as an MSD device anyway. I was interested in 
GPhoto2 as it seems it should be able to use the camera as a capture 
device (webcam).

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 16:02:34 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:   NetFinity

I've just installed netfinity manager 5.20.7 on this box.

It has installed all of the drivers etc inside config.sys

However, I still do not get the ability to monitor TCP/IP or Lan Server
parameters.

The only box that I've _ever_ been able to do this on was an old WSA box
with System View 1.1 on it.

Does anyone know how to do it with the newer versions?

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA

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Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 17:24:10 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  NetFinity

Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:

>I've just installed netfinity manager 5.20.7 on this box.
>
>It has installed all of the drivers etc inside config.sys
>
>However, I still do not get the ability to monitor TCP/IP or Lan Server
>parameters.
>
>The only box that I've _ever_ been able to do this on was an old WSA box
>with System View 1.1 on it.
>
>Does anyone know how to do it with the newer versions?
>
>
>-Chris
>
>  
>
Hi Chris,

What model of IBM server have you installed Netfinity Manager on ??
If you read the "small print" the product is only supported on certain 
IBM hardware.

What do you mean by "monitoring TCP/IP or LAN Server parameters" ?

Where are you monitoring from ? - same subnet ?

The current IBM tool for monitoring servers is IBM Director. There is an 
OS/2 agent, however the server and console programs are only available 
for Windoze and Linsux. You may be able to run this from within VPC/2 if 
neccessary.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 17:44:18 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  NetFinity

On Sun, 29 May 2005 16:02:34 +1000 (EST), Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote:

>
>I've just installed netfinity manager 5.20.7 on this box.
>
>It has installed all of the drivers etc inside config.sys
>
>However, I still do not get the ability to monitor TCP/IP or Lan Server
>parameters.
>
>The only box that I've _ever_ been able to do this on was an old WSA box
>with System View 1.1 on it.
>
>Does anyone know how to do it with the newer versions?

RTFM (or the readme at least to get a hint of how to do it).

1. Open the Netfinity Service Manager (this opens the main netfinity
window).
2. Open the System Monitor window.
3. Click on Windows>Show Monitors...
4. Select the monitors that you want _enabled_ (and thus shown).

Now when you select Windows> you get the monitors that you've selected.

All happy now.

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA

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Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 18:26:57 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:   Firefox Bookmarks files

Hi All

I've just noticed that the1Gb partition I have reserved for Internet use 
only has 112Mb free.

Upon investigation I find in my Firefox Profiles dennis directory that I 
have some 3182 bookmark files.
Looking at the creation dates, it seems that whenever I use the bookmark 
tag in firefox it writes a new copy of the file.
As most of the files seem to be over 220Kb, they consume over 700Mb of 
the disk.

So anybody know why this is happening and how to stop it.

I'm using ver 1.0

Regards

Dennis

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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 19:05:22 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I've just noticed that the1Gb partition I have reserved for Internet 
> use only has 112Mb free.
>
> Upon investigation I find in my Firefox Profiles dennis directory that 
> I have some 3182 bookmark files.
> Looking at the creation dates, it seems that whenever I use the 
> bookmark tag in firefox it writes a new copy of the file.
> As most of the files seem to be over 220Kb, they consume over 700Mb of 
> the disk.
>
> So anybody know why this is happening and how to stop it.
>
> I'm using ver 1.0
>
> Regards
>
> Dennis
>
Is it possible that your bookmarks file has its attrib set to read-only 
?? The total space use in my version of the directory is about 900KB.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 19:26:38 +1000 (KST)
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Wireless PC Card with Warp 3

On an old Thinkpad (P133 365XD) I installed Warp 3 with fix pak 38 and installed the lan 
and tcpip apps from the Warp 3 Connect CD ROM.  To my surprise i can get wireless 
lan and internet support - it works with the IBM Hi Rate Wireless PC Card drivers and 
gives lan and internet access.

Admittedly, internet support is a bit lacking on Warp 3 - but at least it works - talk about 
backward compatibility!!!

David Shearer 

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Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 19:35:55 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I've just noticed that the1Gb partition I have reserved for Internet 
>> use only has 112Mb free.
>>
>> Upon investigation I find in my Firefox Profiles dennis directory 
>> that I have some 3182 bookmark files.
>> Looking at the creation dates, it seems that whenever I use the 
>> bookmark tag in firefox it writes a new copy of the file.
>> As most of the files seem to be over 220Kb, they consume over 700Mb 
>> of the disk.
>>
>> So anybody know why this is happening and how to stop it.
>>
>> I'm using ver 1.0
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dennis
>>
> Is it possible that your bookmarks file has its attrib set to 
> read-only ?? The total space use in my version of the directory is 
> about 900KB.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
>
No Ed
They are all set to archive only

I've just dowmloaded and installed the latest version 1.0.4  same story, 
multiple bookmarks files.

I've just been doing some tests and a new bookmark file seems to be 
created every 15 seconds or so.
I don't know if it needs to be triggered by clicking the bookmark tab first.

I've just fired up the Thinkpad, no problem there.

Now the only real difference is that I have a seperate Profiles 
directory, the profiles for firefox and thunderbird are sub-directories 
of it.
I have a directory Internet with Thunderbird and firefox sub directories
also a directory Profiles again with Mozilla and thunderbird 
sub-directories. Firefox is a sub-directory of mozilla.

I also notice that there is no bookmarks.bak file

I'll try creating one and see what happens.

Regards

Dennis.

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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 29 May 2005 19:49:35 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Firefox Bookmarks files

Problem seems to be resolved

The files Bookmarks.html and Bookmarks.bak had their hidden attribute set.

I cleared the hidden attribute ans now everything seems to be ok.

Regards

Dennis

Dennis Nolan wrote:

>
>
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I've just noticed that the1Gb partition I have reserved for Internet 
>>> use only has 112Mb free.
>>>
>>> Upon investigation I find in my Firefox Profiles dennis directory 
>>> that I have some 3182 bookmark files.
>>> Looking at the creation dates, it seems that whenever I use the 
>>> bookmark tag in firefox it writes a new copy of the file.
>>> As most of the files seem to be over 220Kb, they consume over 700Mb 
>>> of the disk.
>>>
>>> So anybody know why this is happening and how to stop it.
>>>
>>> I'm using ver 1.0
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>> Is it possible that your bookmarks file has its attrib set to 
>> read-only ?? The total space use in my version of the directory is 
>> about 900KB.
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
> No Ed
> They are all set to archive only
>
> I've just dowmloaded and installed the latest version 1.0.4  same 
> story, multiple bookmarks files.
>
> I've just been doing some tests and a new bookmark file seems to be 
> created every 15 seconds or so.
> I don't know if it needs to be triggered by clicking the bookmark tab 
> first.
>
> I've just fired up the Thinkpad, no problem there.
>
> Now the only real difference is that I have a seperate Profiles 
> directory, the profiles for firefox and thunderbird are 
> sub-directories of it.
> I have a directory Internet with Thunderbird and firefox sub directories
> also a directory Profiles again with Mozilla and thunderbird 
> sub-directories. Firefox is a sub-directory of mozilla.
>
> I also notice that there is no bookmarks.bak file
>
> I'll try creating one and see what happens.
>
> Regards
>
> Dennis.
>
>
 
>
> 

>
>
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