Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1103
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:02:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Sunday 01 May 2005
 Number  1103
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Need a virus : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
2  Re:  Need a virus : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
3   Quiet Harddisk makes : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
5  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
7   Thunderbird : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
8  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
10  Re:  ADSL : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
11  Re:  Thunderbird : Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>

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Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 00:40:13 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:  Re:  Need a virus

Hi Mike

Yes, got a couple of virus sent to me by Paul Smedley, then I realised
that though I'd modified clamfilter.cmd to use CLAMD so that the speed
of scanning incoming email is lightning compared to starting the program
up for each and every email, I'd forgotten to actually put the file in my
weasel directory :)

The clam filter is also setup to NOT send a return email telling the
wrong person that they just sent a virus, I tend to call that spamming
these days.

I've put the original, and my version, in
 http://os2site dot com/sw/internet/mail/server/filter

clamfilt.zip  <= original
clamfiltv2.cmd <= my version

Now thats sorted out, I must look at a way to stop Voyteks
email bounces re the above subject line being a spam
email, so that it stops giving the digest mode a heartattack.
Now, this is a wierd one.....

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

Windows is like quicksand, except there's nothing "quick" about it.
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Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 02:09:27 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  Need a virus

Ian Manners wrote:

>Hi Mike
>
>Yes, got a couple of virus sent to me by Paul Smedley, then I realised
>that though I'd modified clamfilter.cmd to use CLAMD so that the speed
>of scanning incoming email is lightning compared to starting the program
>up for each and every email, I'd forgotten to actually put the file in my
>weasel directory :)
>
>The clam filter is also setup to NOT send a return email telling the
>wrong person that they just sent a virus, I tend to call that spamming
>these days.
>
>I've put the original, and my version, in
> http://os2site dot com/sw/internet/mail/server/filter
>
>clamfilt.zip  <= original
>clamfiltv2.cmd <= my version
>
>Now thats sorted out, I must look at a way to stop Voyteks
>email bounces re the above subject line being a spam
>email, so that it stops giving the digest mode a heartattack.
>Now, this is a wierd one.....
>
>Cheers
>Ian Manners
>http://www.os2site dot com/
>
>Windows is like quicksand, except there's nothing "quick" about it.
>
Hi Ian,
Shouldn't your last line above be more likened to the La Brea Tarpits in LA?
Glad you were successful. Wish you luck with the weird one!

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
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MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
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[ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments]
[Please use zipped versions of above]

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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 09:19:01 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Quiet Harddisk makes

Hi All,

   Do any of you have a recomendation as to which make / model of EIDE 
drive is the quietest ?

    My wife has a Compaq Deskpro, which has a Seagate Barracuda  
harddisk and when accessed it makes almost a schreeching noice. The 
drive is pretty old however I don't think the noise is because of a head 
failure rather the bearings. I have heard this noise before on other 
systems and they've run for years like this - so I think this is simply 
a design restriction of this model.

    As it's old, I'm looking to replace it with something faster and 
quieter hence the question. The current drive is 12.5GB, of which she's 
only using 7GB  so a 10 GB or greater drive is what I'm looking at, 
probably 7200 RPM rather than 5400 RPM to improve system performance.

   Any recomendations ??

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 02:10:34 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes

Ed Durrant schreef:

>    My wife has a Compaq Deskpro, which has a Seagate Barracuda

Old stuff.

>    The current drive is 12.5GB,

Very old stuff.

> of which she's only using 7GB  so a 10 GB or greater drive is what I'm 
> looking at, probably 7200 RPM rather than 5400 RPM to improve system 
> performance.

You are aware you can't purchase anything new at less tha 60 Giga (if 
not 80 Giga),  aren't you?
Anyway, all the new thinghies from any brand are at low noise. Even scsi 
disks are.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 10:45:45 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
> Ed Durrant schreef:
>
>>    My wife has a Compaq Deskpro, which has a Seagate Barracuda
>
>
> Old stuff.
>
>>    The current drive is 12.5GB,
>
>
> Very old stuff.
>
>> of which she's only using 7GB  so a 10 GB or greater drive is what 
>> I'm looking at, probably 7200 RPM rather than 5400 RPM to improve 
>> system performance.
>
>
> You are aware you can't purchase anything new at less tha 60 Giga (if 
> not 80 Giga),  aren't you?
> Anyway, all the new thinghies from any brand are at low noise. Even 
> scsi disks are.
>
Hi Kris, I realise new drives start at around 60GB - that's why I said a 
minimum of 10GB.

So your comment would be there's no real difference between makes as 
regards sound output these days ?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 02:56:11 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes

Ed Durrant schreef:

>
> So your comment would be there's no real difference between makes as 
> regards sound output these days ?
>
Indeed. Of course, I do exclude Hitachi disks (disguised as IBM). I take 
it for granted every one knows by now this brand had to be avoided.

But the Seagate, Western D, Fujitsu,  Maxtor disks, all are fluid 
damped,  hence you won't hear them at all, unless you are using a 
fanless power supply and super silent CPU cooler (that's why I still can 
hear my scsi disks).

More of a problem could be whether the mobo the 12.5 giga is on now will 
be able to take 60 Giga or more.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 17:33:22 +1000
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:   Thunderbird

Hi all

I seem to have a problem with Thunderbird, It won't compact folders.

The result is that my mail file keeps growing. Deleting files does not 
result in disk space recovery. I suspect that it makes it worse as the 
deleted file appears in the trash folder.
All messages are kept in the one file and it only seems to grow larger.
I also deleted two mail accounts, and though they did not show in the 
accounts list, there were still directories and date for them in the 
profile directory. They at least can be deleted manually.

And now for something completely different.
Last night on Frost, his latest whiz bang assistant broke into a 
password protected windows machine with a USB memory stick. They didn't 
explain what happened but I reacted when I saw the computer booting up 
in Linux.
Just got a glimpse of the directory listing and the root directory was a 
dead give-away.

I assume that after booting up, linux had access to all the windows 
files, and applications to use all the windows data files.

So how secure is Windows or any other OS when a USB memory stick can 
boot up and bypass the normal boot up password protection.

When I bought my ThinkPad last week I was also supplied with a Transcend 
JetFlash memory stick. Software supplied with it indicates that it can 
be set up as a key for the notebook. ie If the stick is not in a USB 
port the computer cannot be used.
Does anyone know if this system works at the BIOS level or the OS level.
IBM also say that the forgetting of the supervisor password would 
require a motherboard replacement, and a hard disk replacement for 
forgetting the user or hard disk password.
Seems that selecting a suitable password requires careful thought.

I had to put installing eCS on the thinkpad on hold, the version of 
Partition Magic I have access to was the wrong version. I'll need to 
find someone with PMv8.

Regards
Dennis.
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 18:47:12 +1000
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
> Ed Durrant schreef:
>
>>
>> So your comment would be there's no real difference between makes as 
>> regards sound output these days ?
>>
> Indeed. Of course, I do exclude Hitachi disks (disguised as IBM). I 
> take it for granted every one knows by now this brand had to be avoided.
>
> But the Seagate, Western D, Fujitsu,  Maxtor disks, all are fluid 
> damped,  hence you won't hear them at all, unless you are using a 
> fanless power supply and super silent CPU cooler (that's why I still 
> can hear my scsi disks).
>
> More of a problem could be whether the mobo the 12.5 giga is on now 
> will be able to take 60 Giga or more.
>
Thanks Kris,

  Good point whether the motherboard will be able to see a drive > 32GB 
- I guess I'll simply have to try it to see (I'll also look for any 
fimware updates from HP-Compaq for the system).

  So avoid Hitachi, otherwise any of the big makes you listed - that's a 
good choice - thanks.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 19:14:58 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Quiet Harddisk makes

On Sun, 01 May 2005 02:56:11 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>Ed Durrant schreef:
>
>>
>> So your comment would be there's no real difference between makes as 
>> regards sound output these days ?
>>
>Indeed. Of course, I do exclude Hitachi disks (disguised as IBM). I take 
>it for granted every one knows by now this brand had to be avoided.

Why?

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 01 May 2005 19:16:16 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" <chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:33:58 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:

>Peter wrote:
>
>> Compounding the problem is that I cant use the selective Archival boot 
>> feature because the OS/2 logo at top left-hand corner doesnt appear & 
>> alt-f1 doesnt work.
>>
>> I have Windows 98SE on another partition from which I can access Warp 
>> via Windows Explorer in case editing the config.sys file might solve 
>> the bootup problem.
>
>Hi Peter,
>
>I was rather intrigued to see the last  statement above - would you care 
>to share with the rest of us how you are able to access Warp4 from 

Easy. Cann't you install warp 4 into a logical fat parition that Win X can
see?

-Chris

WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2.
Voice:  +61-3-9395-1504   Internet:   chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au
FAX:    +61-3-9395-7633   Web Page:   http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au
Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA

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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Sun, 1 May 2005 20:43:16 +1000
From:  "Michael/Gail Peters" <mandgpeters at bigpond dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Thunderbird

Dennis,
I'm using Thunderbird . Try this:
http://kb.mozillazine dot org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders

Mike Peters

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Nolan" <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
To: <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 5:33 PM
Subject:  Thunderbird

> Hi all
>
> I seem to have a problem with Thunderbird, It won't compact folders.
>
> The result is that my mail file keeps growing. Deleting files does not 
> result in disk space recovery. I suspect that it makes it worse as the 
> deleted file appears in the trash folder.
> All messages are kept in the one file and it only seems to grow larger.
> I also deleted two mail accounts, and though they did not show in the 
> accounts list, there were still directories and date for them in the 
> profile directory. They at least can be deleted manually.
>
> And now for something completely different.
> Last night on Frost, his latest whiz bang assistant broke into a password 
> protected windows machine with a USB memory stick. They didn't explain 
> what happened but I reacted when I saw the computer booting up in Linux.
> Just got a glimpse of the directory listing and the root directory was a 
> dead give-away.
>
> I assume that after booting up, linux had access to all the windows files, 
> and applications to use all the windows data files.
>
> So how secure is Windows or any other OS when a USB memory stick can boot 
> up and bypass the normal boot up password protection.
>
> When I bought my ThinkPad last week I was also supplied with a Transcend 
> JetFlash memory stick. Software supplied with it indicates that it can be 
> set up as a key for the notebook. ie If the stick is not in a USB port the 
> computer cannot be used.
> Does anyone know if this system works at the BIOS level or the OS level.
> IBM also say that the forgetting of the supervisor password would require 
> a motherboard replacement, and a hard disk replacement for forgetting the 
> user or hard disk password.
> Seems that selecting a suitable password requires careful thought.
>
> I had to put installing eCS on the thinkpad on hold, the version of 
> Partition Magic I have access to was the wrong version. I'll need to find 
> someone with PMv8.
>
> Regards
> Dennis.

> 

> 

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