Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1083
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 00:01:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Friday 01 April 2005
 Number  1083
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
2  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
3  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
4  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
7  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
8  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  [S]  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
10  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
12  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking : Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>

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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:13:02 +1000
From:  "Robert Traynor  (BobT)" <rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

Hi,

As mike said:-
Run regedit under XP, then use the "Edit -> find" menuitem with "LMAnnounce" 
and when you see the obvious item change the value from a zero to a one!

From Memory there should be TWO settings to change.

Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
1 April 2005   7:12

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:57:15 +1000, Gavin Miller wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm sure this has been addressed before, but I'm dense... I tend not to 
> focus on things until I really need to; and then it's too late...
> 
> Anywho, what I'd like to know is how to get an XP machine to show up on 
> OS/2's network resources?  I know that Win9x had LMAnnounce set to on, 
> but can't find anything like that in XP.
> 
> Cheers
> G

   ,-._|\       Robert Traynor        (BobT)
 /  Oz  \      email            rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au
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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:13:08 +1000
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

Yep done that, but no go.  XP can't see any of my OS/2 boxes and OS/2
can't see XP.  Help me out oh network gurus.

Incidentally, the Workgroup login password on ECS 1.1 is a joke.  It
does not care what you put in the password, it'll still let you in.  I
thought I'd fixed that problem but no; still gained access with a random
bash of the keyboard.  I hope this has been addressed in 1.2

Cheers
G

>  
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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 08:46:44 +0930
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

HI Gavin,
What Network protocols are installed on the XP and OS/2 boxes?  Is the
workgroup set the same on both machines?

Netbeui/Netbios doesn't get installed by default in XP - so unless you
have TCPBEUI setup on the OS/2 box they won't be able to see each
other...

Cheers,

Paul.

On 31/3/2005, "Gavin Miller" <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:

>Yep done that, but no go.  XP can't see any of my OS/2 boxes and OS/2
>can't see XP.  Help me out oh network gurus.
>
>Incidentally, the Workgroup login password on ECS 1.1 is a joke.  It
>does not care what you put in the password, it'll still let you in.  I
>thought I'd fixed that problem but no; still gained access with a random
>bash of the keyboard.  I hope this has been addressed in 1.2
>
>Cheers
>G
>
>>
>>
>

> 

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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:31:45 +1000
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

Mmm... Interesting.  File and Print sharing, Client for MS networks, 
TCP/IP, and QoS packet scheduler are installed.  I assumed File and 
printer sharing was Netbios/netbeui.  The XP box has also had Netbios 
over TCP/IP disabled.

Cheers
G

Paul Smedley wrote:

>HI Gavin,
>What Network protocols are installed on the XP and OS/2 boxes?  Is the
>workgroup set the same on both machines?
>
>Netbeui/Netbios doesn't get installed by default in XP - so unless you
>have TCPBEUI setup on the OS/2 box they won't be able to see each
>other...
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul.
>
>On 31/3/2005, "Gavin Miller" <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Yep done that, but no go.  XP can't see any of my OS/2 boxes and OS/2
>>can't see XP.  Help me out oh network gurus.
>>
>>Incidentally, the Workgroup login password on ECS 1.1 is a joke.  It
>>does not care what you put in the password, it'll still let you in.  I
>>thought I'd fixed that problem but no; still gained access with a random
>>bash of the keyboard.  I hope this has been addressed in 1.2
>>
>>Cheers
>>G
>>
>>    
>>
>>>      
>>>

>>

>>    
>>

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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:33:10 +1000
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

.... OS/2 has tcp/ip and netbios.  I did not want (or do want) netbios 
over tcp/ip)

Cheers
G

Paul Smedley wrote:

>HI Gavin,
>What Network protocols are installed on the XP and OS/2 boxes?  Is the
>workgroup set the same on both machines?
>
>Netbeui/Netbios doesn't get installed by default in XP - so unless you
>have TCPBEUI setup on the OS/2 box they won't be able to see each
>other...
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul.
>
>On 31/3/2005, "Gavin Miller" <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Yep done that, but no go.  XP can't see any of my OS/2 boxes and OS/2
>>can't see XP.  Help me out oh network gurus.
>>
>>Incidentally, the Workgroup login password on ECS 1.1 is a joke.  It
>>does not care what you put in the password, it'll still let you in.  I
>>thought I'd fixed that problem but no; still gained access with a random
>>bash of the keyboard.  I hope this has been addressed in 1.2
>>
>>Cheers
>>G
>>
>>    
>>
>>>      
>>>

>>

>>    
>>

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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:10:12 +0930
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

Hi Gavin,

On 31/3/2005, "Gavin Miller" <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:

>Mmm... Interesting.  File and Print sharing, Client for MS networks,
>TCP/IP, and QoS packet scheduler are installed.  I assumed File and
>printer sharing was Netbios/netbeui.  The XP box has also had Netbios
>over TCP/IP disabled.

You can install Netbeui in XP - search Google on how to do it as I don't
remember :)  The necessary files are on the Install CD somewhere
non-obvious.

Otherwise just install TCPBEUI in OS/2 - just make sure you have ports
137-139 blocked in your firewall.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:12:30 +0930
From:  "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

Hi Gavin,

On 31/3/2005, "Paul Smedley" <paul at smedley.info> wrote:

>Hi Gavin,
>
>On 31/3/2005, "Gavin Miller" <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:
>
>>Mmm... Interesting.  File and Print sharing, Client for MS networks,
>>TCP/IP, and QoS packet scheduler are installed.  I assumed File and
>>printer sharing was Netbios/netbeui.  The XP box has also had Netbios
>>over TCP/IP disabled.
>
>You can install Netbeui in XP - search Google on how to do it as I don't
>remember :)  The necessary files are on the Install CD somewhere
>non-obvious.

From a site on Google:
NetBIOS and WINS
Name Resolutions Summary
Common NetBIOS name problem
Duplicate name issue
Failed to access NetBT driver --  NetBT may not be loaded
How can I install NetBEUI on WinXP?
How to configure WINS  for a non-WINS client
How to check NetBIOS status
How to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP in a peer-to-peer network
How to modify Node Type
How to re-cache the NetBIOS name
How to fix name resolution issue on a standard DNS network 
Name resolution order on Windows XP's previous version
NetBIOS and WINS are required in a mixed network
nbtstat -n does not show <20> (Server service)
Node Type is modified after installing/removing a software
P-node issue
Why enabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP doesn't work
You can use UNC to map network resources but can't browse any networking
computers
Will XP Pro operate as a client on a LAN using netbeui? 
More resolutions for ChicagoTech Consultants (need password to logon) 

Name Resolutions Summary
MS provides many options for NetBIOS name resolution such as local cache
lookup, WINS server query, broadcast, DNS server query, and LMHOSTS and
HOSTS lookup. Microsoft TCP/IP uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) to
support the NetBIOS client and server programs in the LAN and WAN
environments. In the most cases, NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) resolves
NetBIOS names to IP addresses in workgroup network and WINS resolves
NetBIOS names to IP addresses in domain network.

Common NetBIOS name problem

NetBIOS names must be between 1 and 15 characters long (the names are up
to 16 characters, but the last character is reserved as a special
characters). For that reason, you should not give a computer name longer
than 15 characters.

Duplicate name issue

Symptoms: Event viewer may show Event ID 4320, Event ID: 4319. You may
get system error 52 and a duplicate name has been detected on the TCP
network.
Resolutions:  
1. If two computers on the Network with the same name, use the nbtstat -n
command to find out these two computers, for example, using nbtstat -n
to check the name and ip of the local computer, and then using  nbtstat
-a command with the IP address to get the another computer name. 
2. If identical username is logging on to multiple computers, the
usernames will register with a <03h>, and that may cause the name
conflict in the network. Ask the user to log off of all computers and
log back on to just one computer. 
3. This may be occurred because of inactive or duplicate names in the
WINS Database. Go to the WINS server, check the database and delete the
inactive or duplicated names.
4. This my be  occurred because of  a possibly corrupted DHCP database.
To clear DHCP related entries or clean out old settings in the registry,
delete any .mib files, and then reinstall DHCP.
5. This may be occurred because of  conflicting NICs in a Multihomed
Computer. To fix this problem, you may want to stop Computer Browser
service or uncheck one of Client for MS Network.
6. This may be ocurred because IPCONFIG /ALL returns incorrect host name.
To change computer name in the TCP/IP parameters section, run
regedit.exe, and locate the HOSTNAME value in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip
\Parameters, and then edit the string data. 
Still need help, contact consultant           Your feedback and
contributions to this web site

Failed to access NetBT driver --  NetBT may not be loaded
causes: 1. No rights to run NBTSTAT.
2. Missing NetBT parameters in registry.
3. NetBIOS is not enabled.

How can I install NetBEUI on WinXP?

A: NetBEUI is not included on XP by default. To install NetBEUI, 1) Copy
Nbf.sys to the %SYSTEMROOT%\System32\Drivers 
directory from Windows XP CD - Valueadd\MSFT\Net\NetBEUI folder. 2)
Copy Netnbf.inf to the %SYSTEMROOT%\Inf hidden 
directory. 3) Go to Control Panel>Network Connections, right-click the
adapter you want to add NetBEUI to, and then click
Properties>General>Install>Protocol>Add>NetBEUI Protocol.
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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:43:48 +1000
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

I found a protocol in there called IPX/SPX/NETBIOS compatable.  I figure 
that's a good place to start.
Thanx for that.  Have a good one.

Cheers
G

Paul Smedley wrote:

>Hi Gavin,
>
>On 31/3/2005, "Gavin Miller" <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Mmm... Interesting.  File and Print sharing, Client for MS networks,
>>TCP/IP, and QoS packet scheduler are installed.  I assumed File and
>>printer sharing was Netbios/netbeui.  The XP box has also had Netbios
>>over TCP/IP disabled.
>>    
>>
>
>You can install Netbeui in XP - search Google on how to do it as I don't
>remember :)  The necessary files are on the Install CD somewhere
>non-obvious.
>
>Otherwise just install TCPBEUI in OS/2 - just make sure you have ports
>137-139 blocked in your firewall.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul.

> 
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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:43:52 +1100
From:  "Peter Rehfisch" <gillpete at vic.australis dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [S]  OS/2 - WinXP networking

Gavin,

Try the article at 

http://www.mit.edu/activities/os2/peer/WARPPEER.HTM

I failed to get XP-OS/2 boxes to see each other for a long time, but this article, albeit 7 years 
old and talking about NT, did it for me.

Peter R
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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:28:28 +1000
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

Ha Ha... Success!!!  :-D

XP(Netbeui + IPX/SPX/Netbios compat. transport) = OS/2 and XP happily 
playing together without tcpbeui

Cheers
G

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Date:  Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:37:26 -0500
From:  Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

<Ha Ha... Success!!!  :-D

<XP(Netbeui + IPX/SPX/Netbios compat. transport) = OS/2 and XP happily 
<playing together without tcpbeui

<Cheers
<G

Amazing, Gavin.

Here was I thinking IPX/SPX is a Novell Netware protocol
and installing/enabling support for it wouldn't solve your problem.

Amazing.

Regards
Chris.
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Date:  Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:22:03 +1000
From:  "Mike O'Connor" <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 - WinXP networking

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Incidentally, the Workgroup login password on ECS 1.1 is a joke.  It
> does not care what you put in the password, it'll still let you in.  I
> thought I'd fixed that problem but no; still gained access with a random
> bash of the keyboard.  I hope this has been addressed in 1.2
>
> Cheers
> G

Hi Gavin,

It's not quite what you think - you're only logged in as an unknown 
*GUEST*, with just those default capabilities assigned to GUEST accounts.

After you log-in, just open the "Sharing & Connecting" object in the 
Network Services folder in Local Network on the desktop.

You should find that you only have about 3 tabs in the notebook [4 with 
VT], instead of the 9|10 you should have if logged in "properly"! You 
have to do an initial log-in using "USERID" & "PASSWORD", to access the 
other tabs, then create a new <userid>/<password> of your own choice, 
add others to the list etc., then logoff and login again as your 
preferred userid and *delete* the default USERID/PASSWORD combination! 
you can then set-up ACLs on your drives/directories, access permissions 
for user groups and users, etc., etc.

HTH

-- 
Regards,
Mike

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