Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1058
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:01:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Tuesday 22 February 2005
 Number  1058
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Subjects for today
 
1   [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] : Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
2   Ecs Network Login : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
3   OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  OT: Windows Mouse actions : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
5   LVM and PM : Alan Duval <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
6   Anyone ? : Ian Manners" <deadmail>
7  Re:  LVM and PM : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
8  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  Re:  [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re:  Ecs Network Login : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re:  Anyone ? : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
12  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
13  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
14  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
15  Re:  Ecs Network Login : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
16  Re:  Ecs Network Login : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
17  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
18  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
19  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
20  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
21  Re:  LVM and PM : Alan Duval <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
22  Re:  LVM and PM : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
23  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
24  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
25  Re:  [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:05:36 +1030
From:  Paul Smedley <paul at smedley.info>
Subject:   [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...]

All,
Anyone on the OS/2 Australialist know of mjterrington?  Name doesn't 
ring a bell with me :(

Cheers,

Paul.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:09:18 -0500
From: Gregory L. Marx <Gregory.Marx at verizon dot net>
Reply-To: eComStation at yahoogroups dot com
To: eComStation at yahoogroups dot com,  ecsapps at yahoogroups dot com, 
eCS-Technical at yahoogroups dot com

REQ:

There's a small OS/2 utility named "Theme/2" that TomLee Mullins
referenced in a post to the eComStation dot com forums.  Its function is to
allow the usage of Windows 95 themes under OS/2, but it's a very early
release (0.3) written in 1997 obviously prior to Windows 98 and its
later brethen.

The simple copyright lists "MJTerrington" and the email address is
"toorak at giga dot net dot au" but unfortunately a message sent from my
verizon dot net account comes back with the following error:

Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

   Recipient address: toorak at giga dot net dot au
   Reason: Illegal host/domain name found

I did some searching via Google dot com for a later version (actually for
*any* version) but the only pointer is to Peter Norloff's OS2BBS dot com
site.  And the only version found in his files section is the above
referenced 0.3 release.  I was hoping to contact the author and see if
he is still using OS/2 and if so, whether there's a later release of
Theme/2 that is more fully developed and able to use later vintage win32
themes.

Plus, I was thinking that maybe this tool along with Rich Castle's
ColorManager/2 and the other built-in tools in eCS could be investigated
as a possible means to being able to use windows themes.  My thinking
being that anything that would help in converting the windows-using
masses into looking at eCS would be a "good thing".  And of course it
would also add an additional piece of eye-candy for our favorite
operating-system.  I know this is a slightly controversial idea, but IMO
it would be another option for furthering the eCS experience.

With all that said, does anyone have any later info or contact data
concerning this program ?
(I also searched Hobbes but OS2bbs dot com appears to be the only location
for Theme/2.  If anyone would like to look at a copy let me know
off-list and I can send you the version from Peter's site)

Thanks,
Gregory L. Marx
gregory.marx at verizon dot net

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:40:39 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Ecs Network Login

Hi all,

I've noticed that with Ecs 1.1, I can type any password and still be 
granted access to the network.  This can't be normal, can it?

Cheers
G
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:09:02 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Hi All,

Does anyone play with Windows XP much?  I'd like to know if it has mouse 
actions in a DOS prompt like OS/2 does.

Cheers
G
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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:19:00 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT: Windows Mouse actions

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:09:02 +1100, Gavin Miller wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Does anyone play with Windows XP much?  I'd like to know if it has mouse 
>actions in a DOS prompt like OS/2 does.

Haven't found them Gavin.

#2 son Chris says you need to invoke them with Menu actions:
Menu Edit
Back to command screen, select text.
Menu Copy

that sort of thing... 

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
___________________

PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... Windows XP: Simulated eCS!
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:50:40 +0000
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   LVM and PM

Hi,

My second harddrive gave up the ghost 2 days ago and I bought a new one 
and installed it yesterday.
Decided to put all WIN stuff on the first harddrive and eCS on second 
drive as i'm thinking of installing WIN XP on the first drive. I've got 
everything installed but there always seems to be a conflict between  
LVM and Partition magic. I used Partition Magic to partition the new 
disk. Why?: because if I use LVM and then use Drive image to restore my 
partitioins it gives error messages that the starting LBA value is 
different to the CHS value of each new partitioin and requests that it 
change them. If I do this LBA will say that the partition information is 
possibly corrupt.  That doesn't occur if I use PM and then Drive Image, 
but after then using LVM to volumnize the new partitions the error 
messages again occur if I load PM or Drive Image. I use Drive Image to 
back up my system.
Does it matter if I ignore the request to correct the LBA and CHS values 
when I create an image with Drive Image?

Regards

Alan

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:03:51 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "Ian Manners" <deadmail>
Subject:   Anyone ?

From:     abhishek
email:     abhishek  at  esselshyam dot net
Country:  India
Comments: -
Hi!

I want to make some specialised programs on os/2 or windows based programs to run on Os/2 kindly let me that if this can be done and by whom
***************************************

Cheers
Ian Manners
http://www.os2site dot com/

If at first you don't succeed, you are running about average.   -- Bill Cosby
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:32:55 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  LVM and PM

Hi Alan

What version of PQMagic are you using?  I suspect that no versions are 
compatible with LVM.  PQM v3.05 (I think) was the last native OS/2 
release, and it is definitely incompatible with LVM - I have it.  I 
suspect that they drifted ever further away from maintaining any kind of 
OS/2 compatibility as they became more and more ensconced in Windo$e. 
IBM's LVM is far more advanced that any of its FDISK (or FDISK-like) 
predecessors, and 3rd party products like PQMagic would have to be 
specifically written to be compatible with LVM.  Some are, like DFSee, 
but I have a feeling, deep down in my water bag, that PQMagic is not one 
of them.

To do what you're suggesting is good.  That is, keeping Wintendo on a 
separate drive, and keeping it on the 1st drive.  While XP is claimed to 
boot from any partition, it must have its initial boot instructions on 
C:.  Hence, best to keep the lot there.  Because NTFS.IFS is still RO in 
eCS, if you want to be able to swap files across the 2 systems, it's 
best to have a FAT32 partition to have in common.  From experience this 
is what *I* would count as the best process to achieve that.

1. Backup all your important stuff!!  A CD is good for this.

2. Install all the physical drives and get the CMOS setup - usually
    automatic now-a-days.

3. Boot from the eCS CD, and at the first chance, take a command line
    and invoke LVM.  Because you already have a reliable backup of ALL
    that is important to you, delete ALL partitions on both physical
    drives.

4. Next, install BootManager.  I don't remember any options here - I
    think, because there are no partitions it will automatically go on
    the beginning of the 1st drive.  If you get a choice, put it at the
    beginning of the 1st drive - if not it doesn't really matter.  That's
    all for eCS for the time being.  Save the changes, re-boot ...

5. Boot from the XP CD, and read CAREFULLY all the screens that present.
    Installing XP is NOT an intuitive process.  When you arive at XP's
    partition management program, be VERY careful and proceed. ...

6. The BM partition will show as a 7meg partiton - leave it alone!!
    ENSURE that you only work on the 1st physical drive whilst installing
    Window$, and then create a partition *at least* 2gig at the beginning
    of the free space.  This will be C:, formatted NTFS, and will be your
    main Windoze drive/boot drive.

7. Create a 2nd Wintendo partition (D:) using up the rest of the drive,
    and format it FAT32.  Remember that the FAT32 partition is really
    only there so that data can be swapped between Winblows and eCS, so
    you make a guess at what ratio you have for Windoze system drive
    (NTFS) and the shared drive (FAT32).  I would think that 1gig would
    be enough for swapping data back and forth.  Anyhow, use the whole
    drive for these 2 partitions.

8. Go ahead now and install Windo$e into the NTFS partition.  Btw, NTFS
    is FAR superior to FAT32, so use it where you can, and FAT32 where
    you have to.

9. The rest is easy.  Boot from the eCS CD, partition the 2nd physical
    drive as you wish and install eCS there.  It might ask you to
    re-install BM, I'm not sure.  If you want to be sure, be careful,
    delete the BM previously installed, (on the 1st physical drive) and
    re-install it anyway.  It was only put there before the Windoze
    install to reserve the space for it now.

10. I hope you're OK with LVM - it's a magic tool.  When all that is
    done, re-boot and BM should appear with only 1 option on it - eCS.
    When happilly booted into eCS, take a command line, invoke LVM again
    to create your 2 Window$ *VOLUMES*  **## NOT PARTITIONS ##**  Create
    the volumes on the same boundaries as the partitons you created in
    Windo$e, and remember to add the NTFS volume to BM.  Set the BM
    defaults you want, save the changes and Bob's me mate and your uncle
    is your business.

In LVM, volumes are created in LOGICAL VIEW, while partitions are 
created in PHYSICAL VIEW.  (This is a very simplified statement, so no 
flack from the rest of you please.)  For 10. above that is the rule 
which will keep you furthest from trouble, but not immune to it.

Also, this is NOT the only way to get the 2 installed and co-existing, 
but it is, in my opinion, the easiest way to succeed.

I wish you near-by.  It's really quite an easy process when you see it 
done, but oh so daunting as a set of instructions like above.

Are we having fun yet?

Kev

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My second harddrive gave up the ghost 2 days ago and I bought a new one 
> and installed it yesterday.
> Decided to put all WIN stuff on the first harddrive and eCS on second 
> drive as i'm thinking of installing WIN XP on the first drive. I've got 
> everything installed but there always seems to be a conflict between  
> LVM and Partition magic. I used Partition Magic to partition the new 
> disk. Why?: because if I use LVM and then use Drive image to restore my 
> partitioins it gives error messages that the starting LBA value is 
> different to the CHS value of each new partitioin and requests that it 
> change them. If I do this LBA will say that the partition information is 
> possibly corrupt.  That doesn't occur if I use PM and then Drive Image, 
> but after then using LVM to volumnize the new partitions the error 
> messages again occur if I load PM or Drive Image. I use Drive Image to 
> back up my system.

> Does it matter if I ignore the request to correct the LBA and CHS values 
> when I create an image with Drive Image?

If you do what I've outlined above, this glitch will disappear

=========================
Kev Downes
kdownes at tpg dot com dot au  ph 0404 7 0808 2
Windows isn't the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO!
I use, recommend and support OS/2 Warp and eComStation.
=========================
"Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything;
He who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world
and nothing of himself."             Blaise Pascal
=========================
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:30:05 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Gavin Miller said:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone play with Windows XP much?  I'd like to know if it has mouse
> actions in a DOS prompt like OS/2 does.

let me know if you find out, I'm interested too

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:59:06 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...]

giga dot net dot au is an invalid domainname aswell.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Paul Smedley wrote:
> All,
> Anyone on the OS/2 Australialist know of mjterrington?  Name doesn't 
> ring a bell with me :(
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:09:18 -0500
> From: Gregory L. Marx <Gregory.Marx at verizon dot net>
> Reply-To: eComStation at yahoogroups dot com
> To: eComStation at yahoogroups dot com,  ecsapps at yahoogroups dot com, 
> eCS-Technical at yahoogroups dot com
> 
> 
> REQ:
> 
> There's a small OS/2 utility named "Theme/2" that TomLee Mullins
> referenced in a post to the eComStation dot com forums.  Its function is to
> allow the usage of Windows 95 themes under OS/2, but it's a very early
> release (0.3) written in 1997 obviously prior to Windows 98 and its
> later brethen.
> 
> The simple copyright lists "MJTerrington" and the email address is
> "toorak at giga dot net dot au" but unfortunately a message sent from my
> verizon dot net account comes back with the following error:
> 
> Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:
> 
>   Recipient address: toorak at giga dot net dot au
>   Reason: Illegal host/domain name found
> 
> 
> I did some searching via Google dot com for a later version (actually for
> *any* version) but the only pointer is to Peter Norloff's OS2BBS dot com
> site.  And the only version found in his files section is the above
> referenced 0.3 release.  I was hoping to contact the author and see if
> he is still using OS/2 and if so, whether there's a later release of
> Theme/2 that is more fully developed and able to use later vintage win32
> themes.
> 
> Plus, I was thinking that maybe this tool along with Rich Castle's
> ColorManager/2 and the other built-in tools in eCS could be investigated
> as a possible means to being able to use windows themes.  My thinking
> being that anything that would help in converting the windows-using
> masses into looking at eCS would be a "good thing".  And of course it
> would also add an additional piece of eye-candy for our favorite
> operating-system.  I know this is a slightly controversial idea, but IMO
> it would be another option for furthering the eCS experience.
> 
> With all that said, does anyone have any later info or contact data
> concerning this program ?
> (I also searched Hobbes but OS2bbs dot com appears to be the only location
> for Theme/2.  If anyone would like to look at a copy let me know
> off-list and I can send you the version from Peter's site)
> 
> Thanks,
> Gregory L. Marx
> gregory.marx at verizon dot net
> 
> 
> 
> Please don't post tech support requests to this list.  Use 
> news.ecomstation.nl.
> 
> To unsubscribe, send email to:
> eComStation-unsubscribe at egroups dot com
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
>     http://groups.yahoo dot com/group/eComStation/
> 
> <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>     eComStation-unsubscribe at yahoogroups dot com
> 
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>     http://docs.yahoo dot com/info/terms/
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
> 
> 

> 

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:02:26 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ecs Network Login

Gavin Miller wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've noticed that with Ecs 1.1, I can type any password and still be 
> granted access to the network.  This can't be normal, can it?
> 
> Cheers
> G
 
> 
> 

> 
Can you supply a bit more information please ? Where are you entering a 
password - is this a network login, a local login or an application log in ?

It is possible to create an account through UPMACCTS and set the account 
to password optional - is this what you have ??

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:15:15 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Anyone ?

Ian Manners wrote:
> From:     abhishek
> email:     abhishek  at  esselshyam dot net
> Country:  India
> Comments: -
> Hi!
> 
> I want to make some specialised programs on os/2 or windows based programs to run on Os/2 kindly let me that if this can be done and by whom
> ***************************************
> 
> Cheers
> Ian Manners
> http://www.os2site dot com/
> 

With the reference to running Windows on OS/2 - perhaps you should 
direct abhishek to the ODIN website at http://www dot netlabs dot org/odin/ ?

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:19:08 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> Gavin Miller said:
> 
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Does anyone play with Windows XP much?  I'd like to know if it has mouse
>>actions in a DOS prompt like OS/2 does.
> 
> 
> 
> let me know if you find out, I'm interested too

What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for 
example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would 
expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some 
changes.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:25:33 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Ed Durrant said:
> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>> Gavin Miller said:

> What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for
> example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would
> expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some
> changes.

scrape - copy
click - paste

? how to make XP do that simple trick ?

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:31:51 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> Ed Durrant said:
> 
>>Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>>Gavin Miller said:
> 
> 
>>What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for
>>example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would
>>expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some
>>changes.
> 
> 
> 
> scrape - copy
> click - paste
> 
> ? how to make XP do that simple trick ?
> 

LMB and Drag to mark - enter to copy to clipboard

RMB to paste

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:58:23 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ecs Network Login

Gavin Miller wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've noticed that with Ecs 1.1, I can type any password and still be 
> granted access to the network.  This can't be normal, can it?

Hi Gavin,

Usually that only occurs if you don't already have a password assigned 
to the UserID used, and if you then open the "Sharing and Connecting" 
object, you only find about three tabs included, instead of eight [nine 
including Speech if you have VoiceType]. This situation would give you 
"guest" privileges only, no administation access.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
--------------------
MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
--------------------
[ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments]
[Please use zipped versions of above]

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**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:47:33 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ecs Network Login

Hi Ed, Mike,

It was the local network login, but I think I may know what was going 
wrong.  When I installed ecs, I don't think I cliked on "Change" when I 
entered the Uer ID and Password.  That's fixed now.

Thanx
Cheers
G

Mike O'Connor wrote:

> Gavin Miller wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've noticed that with Ecs 1.1, I can type any password and still be 
>> granted access to the network.  This can't be normal, can it?
>
>
> Hi Gavin,
>
> Usually that only occurs if you don't already have a password assigned 
> to the UserID used, and if you then open the "Sharing and Connecting" 
> object, you only find about three tabs included, instead of eight 
> [nine including Speech if you have VoiceType]. This situation would 
> give you "guest" privileges only, no administation access.
>
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**= Email   17 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:54:20 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:31:51 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Voytek Eymont wrote:
>> Ed Durrant said:
>> 
>>>Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>>
>>>>Gavin Miller said:
>> 
>> 
>>>What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for
>>>example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would
>>>expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some
>>>changes.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> scrape - copy
>> click - paste
>> 
>> ? how to make XP do that simple trick ?
>> 
>
>LMB and Drag to mark - enter to copy to clipboard
>
>RMB to paste
>

These aren't on by default.  To turn them on, open a command-line, and
select properties from the windows menu.  On the properties dialog,
select "Quick edit mode" (or something like that).  Save the changes
and when asked select the apply to all windows option so that it is
remembered.

--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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**= Email   18 ==========================**

Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:54:55 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>> scrape - copy
>> click - paste
>>
>> ? how to make XP do that simple trick ?
>
> LMB and Drag to mark - enter to copy to clipboard
>
> RMB to paste 

Hi Ed,

Thanks! Hadn't realised that the Enter-key put the selected data on the 
clipboard in OS/2-eCS also! :-)
I had previously been using the context menu to do that too!

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
--------------------
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Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:35:31 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

David Forrester wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:31:51 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> 
>>Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>>Ed Durrant said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Gavin Miller said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for
>>>>example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would
>>>>expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some
>>>>changes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>scrape - copy
>>>click - paste
>>>
>>>? how to make XP do that simple trick ?
>>>
>>
>>LMB and Drag to mark - enter to copy to clipboard
>>
>>RMB to paste
>>
> 
> 
> These aren't on by default.  To turn them on, open a command-line, and
> select properties from the windows menu.  On the properties dialog,
> select "Quick edit mode" (or something like that).  Save the changes
> and when asked select the apply to all windows option so that it is
> remembered.
> 
> --
> David Forrester
> davidfor at internode.on dot net

I think in Windows XP PROFESSIONAL (Note, not the hacked down HOME 
version), they ARE on by default as I never turned them on specifically 
and they're there.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:04:08 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Mike O'Connor said:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>> scrape - copy
>>> click - paste

> Thanks! Hadn't realised that the Enter-key put the selected data on the
> clipboard in OS/2-eCS also! :-)
> I had previously been using the context menu to do that too!

enter-key ?
I want a mouse like that, too.

where can I get a mouse with an Enter-Key ?

jeez, I'm so far behind, yet again, still have a mouse with no enter-key

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Voytek
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Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:13:56 +0000
From:  Alan Duval <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  LVM and PM

Kev wrote:

> Hi Alan
>
> What version of PQMagic are you using?  

I'm using Partition Magic 5.0 and Drive Image 3.0. In the DFSee forums 
Jan says that PM does a better job of resizing and moving Partitions 
than DFSee.

> I suspect that no versions are compatible with LVM.  

However you would think that they would keep the same CHS and LBA values.

>  3rd party products like PQMagic would have to be specifically written 
> to be compatible with LVM.  Some are, like DFSee, but I have a 
> feeling, deep down in my water bag, that PQMagic is not one of them.

Appreciate the detailed instructions you've given me concerning 
installing WIN XP.  I'm going to tread very carefully here. Even 
thinking about disconnecting the drive that eCS is on.
As yet I haven't  got my DVD burner so have backed up everything to a 
third drive which I will definitely disconnect before hand. Also have my 
eCS partition imaged on ZIP Disks but my eCS applications partition is 
too large to image to Zip disks.

Thanks

Alan

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Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:15:32 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  LVM and PM

Alan Duval wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My second harddrive gave up the ghost 2 days ago and I bought a new 
> one and installed it yesterday.
> Decided to put all WIN stuff on the first harddrive and eCS on second 
> drive as i'm thinking of installing WIN XP on the first drive. I've 
> got everything installed but there always seems to be a conflict 
> between  LVM and Partition magic. I used Partition Magic to partition 
> the new disk. Why?: because if I use LVM and then use Drive image to 
> restore my partitioins it gives error messages that the starting LBA 
> value is different to the CHS value of each new partitioin and 
> requests that it change them. If I do this LBA will say that the 
> partition information is possibly corrupt.  That doesn't occur if I 
> use PM and then Drive Image, but after then using LVM to volumnize the 
> new partitions the error messages again occur if I load PM or Drive 
> Image. I use Drive Image to back up my system.
> Does it matter if I ignore the request to correct the LBA and CHS 
> values when I create an image with Drive Image?

Hi Alan,

Adding to the extensive list that Kev provided, I'd suggest that you get 
a copy of DFSee [www.dfsee dot com]!
M$ uses a different CHS system to PowerQuest, which is different again 
from that used by OS/2-eCS [and DFSee default]. However one can change 
the current flavour of CHS with DFSee in order to work successfully with 
Partition Magic/Drive Image, or LVM. It also makes it simple to alter 
extended partition types from 05h to 0Fh as required for Win9x.

Note that the largest FAT32 partition you will be able to 
*create/format* with any M$-NT flavour is 32GB, so Kev's comment about 
using the balance of the first drive as a single D: partition will only 
work for drives ~30GB.
Using Partition Magic of course you can create and simultaneously format 
FAT32 partitions >32GB.

When installing the initial IBM BM, I'd also create a primary partition 
for WXP and then make it the active partition at this time.

HTH

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Regards,
Mike

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Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:19:18 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Voytek Eymont wrote:

>Mike O'Connor said:
>  
>
>>Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>>Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>>
>>>>crape - copy
>>>>click - paste
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Thanks! Hadn't realised that the Enter-key put the selected data on the
>>clipboard in OS/2-eCS also! :-)
>>I had previously been using the context menu to do that too!
>>    
>>
>
>enter-key ?
>I want a mouse like that, too.
>
>where can I get a mouse with an Enter-Key ?
>
>jeez, I'm so far behind, yet again, still have a mouse with no enter-key
>

Hi Voytek,

I don't have it, but maybe that comes with DragText [in OS/2-eCS of course]?

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Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:24:46 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  OT:  Windows Mouse actions

Mike O'Connor said:
> Ed Durrant wrote:
>> Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>> scrape - copy
>>> click - paste

> Thanks! Hadn't realised that the Enter-key put the selected data on the
> clipboard in OS/2-eCS also! :-)
> I had previously been using the context menu to do that too!

Mike, you oughta RTFM sometimes.....
after you've enabled Mouse action:

scrape - drag whilst simultaneously holding down the default mouse button..
when the desired area has been covered, click the non-default mouse
button, releasing both simultaenously, or as close to simultaneously as
your dexterity allows you

click, opps, meant 'chord' - simultaneously rapidly press and release both
the non default mouse button, as well as the default mouse button

now try doing it

once mastered on command line, you can proceed to use scrape/chord in E ,
or PRM, or FireFox (but not DeScribe)

but I still want a mouse with an Enter key, maybe we can get a better deal
if we buy two ?

;>)

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Date:  Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:29:23 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...]

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:05:36 +1030, Paul Smedley wrote:

>All,
>Anyone on the OS/2 Australialist know of mjterrington?  Name doesn't 
>ring a bell with me :(
>

Unfortunately, I don't recognise it either.  And, I'm surprised that
I've never heard of this tool either.  I thought I had looked at every
theming related tool for OS/2 and I've never see this one.  

But, as a slight help, I wanted the function a while ago, and started a
Rexx program to do it.  I haven't touched it for a while, but, looking
at the code, it will do sound, the desktop image and cursors.  It looks
like I'm up to the colours.  And the main problem there, and with all
the settings, is mapping between the Windows and OS/2 names for things.
 Of course, the biggest problem is going to be converting the icons to
OS/2 format.  WinIco will do it, but, 

I really should finish this.
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