Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1048
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:01:21 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Saturday 12 February 2005
 Number  1048
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
2  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
3  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
4  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
5  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
6  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
7  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
8  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
9  Re:  Java programs : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
10  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
12  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
13  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
14  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
15  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
16  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
17  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
18  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
19  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
20  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
21  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
22  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
23  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
24  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
25  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
26  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
27   Fwd: Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
28  Re:  Fwd: Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
29  Re:  Fwd: Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
30   Router setup : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
31  Re:  Ethernet adapters : bob <bob at fots dot org dot au>
32  Re:  Router setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
33   Router connection : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
34  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
35   Router setup : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
36  Re:  Router setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
37  Re:  Router setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
38  Re:  Router setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
39  Re:  Router setup : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
40  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
41   Fw: Router setup : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
42  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
43  Re:  Java programs : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
44  Re:  Fw: Router setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
45   ADSL setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
46  Re:  ADSL setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
47  Re:  ADSL setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
48  Re:  ADSL setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
49  Re:  Router setup : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
50  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
51  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
52  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
53  Re:  Fwd: Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
54  Re:  Fw: Router setup : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
55  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
56  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
57  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
58  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
59   Terminology & requests : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
60   Fonts and Printing : David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
61  Re:  Terminology & requests : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
62  Re:  Terminology & requests : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
63  Re:  Terminology & requests : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
64  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
65  Re:  Terminology & requests : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
66  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
67  Re:  Router setup : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:47:36 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:04:07 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>Ed Durrant schreef:
>
>>> On booting the boot screen says:
>>>
>>> "Network speed is 100 Mbps / Full_Duplex Mode"
>>> SURECOM EP-320X-R-100/10M PCI Adapter NDIS2 driver is installed"
>>>
>>> Then the line:
>>>
>>> "DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
>>> background."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> What you have so far is GOOD !!
>>
>Indeed.
>
>> the PC appears to becorrectly configured - it's searching out on the 
>> ethernet cable for a DHCP server - a role that your ADSL modem / 
>> Router should be playing.
>
>No! Please, the DHCP server is has to look for is the router!
>
>When router and PC properly are connected, the the DHCP server at the PC 
>should find the DHCP server at the router and, by in a browser typing in 
>the router's IP address, Alan should land in the router's web page. At 
>this stage there is no need for a broadband connection at all.
>
>Bottom line: what Alan must do NOW is to connect router and PC properly. 
>Probable it's just a matter of powering on the router. And attaching 
>both devices by cable of course.
>

Hi Kris,

I connected the router to the ethernet port and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
light and the LAN Port light came on.
The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web browser 
and type "192.168.1.254" as the URL.  I did this but no "Enter Network Password" window displays as stated; 
in fact the screen remains empty.

Thanks for your continuing help,

Alan Duval

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:50 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval schreef:

>
>I connected the router to the ethernet port
>
? You do mean the  nic at your PC, do you?

> and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
>light and the LAN Port light came on.
>The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web browser 
>and type "192.168.1.254"
>

hmmmm... are you sure this is the ip address of your router?

Can you post a link to your router please, we better have that at hand too.

Now, let's do it step by step.

Step 1: Instal the nic
Step 2: enable dhcp at your PC

As I could understand, step 1 and step 2 are OK.

Now step 3: at (re)boot, ans while the router-adsl device and nic 
properly are connected to each other, connection in the background 
should be made. If not, you'll se the message "DHCP server found no 
parameters, press enter to continue".

So, in order to proceed we must know wether that step 3 is OK or not.

If step 3 is OK, then step 4 will be the to enterthe ip address of your 
router. That ip address is generally something like 192.168.1.1 or 
192.168.1.2, so I'm afraid your at the wrong track. So, report the  ip 
address of your router please. And at present you don't have to care 
about the adsl connection/signal at all.

Incidentally, may I advise you, with an editor open the file

\mptn\bin\setup.cmd

and alter the line:

dhcpstrt -i lan0

to

dhcpstrt -i lan0 -d 20

that way the "wait" will be 20 seconds instead of 60, and 20 is plenty 
of enough anyway.

Don't forget to post the link to your router's manual.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:46:42 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval said:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:04:07 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>>Ed Durrant schreef:

> I connected the router to the ethernet port and switched on the power to
> the router. The power light, SYS
> light and the LAN Port light came on.
> The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web
> Configurator:  Launch the web browser
> and type "192.168.1.254" as the URL.  I did this but no "Enter Network
> Password" window displays as stated;
> in fact the screen remains empty.

Allan,

try typing on command line:

ping 192.168.1.254

this will confirm if PC can see the router
unless it pings OK, you can't connect

maybe pc is in a wrong subnet ?

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:58:58 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Voytek Eymont schreef:

>
>Allan,
>
>try typing on command line:
>
>ping 192.168.1.254
>
>  
>
I very much doubt that is the IP address of the router.

But at present that is not the issue:  the issue is wether DHCP 
connection PC <--> router has been established or not.

Still awaiting the confirmation of the latter and a link to the router's 
manual.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:02:52 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Voytek Eymont schreef:

>
>Allan,
>
>try typing on command line:
>
>ping 192.168.1.254
>
>this will confirm if PC can see the router
>unless it pings OK, you can't connect
>
>maybe pc is in a wrong subnet ?
>
>
>  
>
Are you aware a newbee hasn't the slightest idea what on Earth a subnet 
might be? And keep in mind 192.168.1.254 is to odd to be a router's IP 
address. But that still has to be confirmed.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:33:10 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kris Steenhaut said:
> Voytek Eymont schreef:
>>try typing on command line:
>>
>>ping 192.168.1.254

> I very much doubt that is the IP address of the router.
>
> But at present that is not the issue:  the issue is wether DHCP
> connection PC <--> router has been established or not.
>
> Still awaiting the confirmation of the latter and a link to the router's
> manual.

well, Alan seem to think it is, I suspect, the docs told him so

clearly, he didn't just dream up a string like "192.168.1.254"

if nothing else, it's a valid address, last valid address in that range

be it as it may, FWIS, this clearly is the issue, and, the 1st thing I
would do:

ping the router address, in this case, ping 192.168.1.254
that's precisely the issue
if that fails, nothing else will work, period

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:43:11 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kris Steenhaut said:
> Voytek Eymont schreef:
>>Allan,
>>
>>try typing on command line:
>>
>>ping 192.168.1.254
>>
>>this will confirm if PC can see the router
>>unless it pings OK, you can't connect
>>
>>maybe pc is in a wrong subnet ?

> Are you aware a newbee hasn't the slightest idea what on Earth a subnet
> might be? And keep in mind 192.168.1.254 is to odd to be a router's IP
> address. But that still has to be confirmed.

hmmm, good q, what is a subnet ? a sub part of net ?, I guess

why is 192.168.1.254 odd ? back when I went to school, numbers ending in
'4' were always called 'even'

g,d&r

anyhow, Alan doesn't need to know what a subnet is/isn't to do this quuick
test, and, tell us, then, it's up to us to understand it, and, tell him
what to do

not that I have done much of this sort of stuff lately, and, I don't
proclaim to be an xpert, and, I don't have access to my OS/2 system right
at this time, so, I'm relying on faint memory, and, can't provide more
precise info how to set it up, but:

Alam,
as well as ping, try also:
hostid (on the command line) and tell us what it says

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:12:38 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Gavin Miller wrote:
> Just an addendum to Ed's post.  DHCP should be enabled when you have 
> your connection with TPG established.  However you will probably need to 
> disable DHCP to setup the router first, otherwise there will be no 
> connection to the router's ip address.  Once you've done this and setup 
> the router with everything you need (including telling it to be a DHCP 
> server) then go back to TCPIP config and re-enable DHCP.  If the router 
> isn't set to be a DHCP server then you will always get that message 
> "DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
> background", and you will not have access to ethernet Internet functions 
> (including the routers setup IP as mentioned above).  Apart from that, 
> you're all set :-)
> 
> Cheers
> G
> 
  Hi Gavin,
    As the main market for this service is Windows users, and since 
windows XP by default installs networking in DHCP mode, I would expect 
the router to be set to run DHCP by default. My recomendation would be 
to connect and try and if it doesn't work, then your process will most 
probably address the problem. As I said however, I would be surprised to 
find that DHCP is not on by default.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:13:18 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Java programs

Dennis Nolan wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I've just come across a java program jedit and am unable to get it to 
> run/install
> 
> Previously I've run java programs using a command like "java -jar 
> jedit42install.jar"
> 
> This brings up an error dialog.
> 
> Anyone got any advice
> 
> Regards
> Dennis.
> 
 
>
What does the error dialog say ???

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:31:25 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Voytek Eymont wrote:
> Kris Steenhaut said:
> 
>>Voytek Eymont schreef:
>>
>>>try typing on command line:
>>>
>>>ping 192.168.1.254
> 
> 
>>I very much doubt that is the IP address of the router.
>>
>>But at present that is not the issue:  the issue is wether DHCP
>>connection PC <--> router has been established or not.
>>
>>Still awaiting the confirmation of the latter and a link to the router's
>>manual.
> 
> 
> 
> well, Alan seem to think it is, I suspect, the docs told him so
> 
> clearly, he didn't just dream up a string like "192.168.1.254"
> 
> if nothing else, it's a valid address, last valid address in that range
> 
> be it as it may, FWIS, this clearly is the issue, and, the 1st thing I
> would do:
> 
> ping the router address, in this case, ping 192.168.1.254
> that's precisely the issue
> if that fails, nothing else will work, period
> 
> 
> 
Might I suggest the first thing is that at boot up a message is 
displayed indicating that no DHCP server is found. Once this message 
goes away, i would expect things to work "straight away".

One thing to clarify, is this an ADSL MOdem or a router ??

Also to check if indeed an address has been assigned to the card the 
command:

IFCONFIG LAN0

can be typed at the command line.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:41:32 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Hey Ed,

> I would be surprised to find that DHCP is not on by default

Yeah me too, but if Al's getting "DHCP client did not get parameters. 
DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background," consistantly then checking 
the documentation to see what the router's set to is a logical step.  It 
may also be (however unlikely since it's appears to be a new unit) that 
the router needs to have a pin shoved into it's reset hole.

Cheers
G

>
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:53:37 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Ed Durrant schreef:

> ince windows XP by default installs networking in DHCP mode, I would 
> expect the router to be set to run DHCP by default.

Right indeed.

> My recomendation would be to connect and try and if it doesn't work, 
> then your process will most probably address the problem. As I said 
> however, I would be surprised to find that DHCP is not on by default.

If we could have a linj to Alan's manual it would be easier (to avoid 
wild guesses for instance).

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:55:10 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Ed Durrant schreef:

>>
> Might I suggest the first thing is that at boot up a message is 
> displayed indicating that no DHCP server is found. Once this message 
> goes away, i would expect things to work "straight away".
>
Right indeed.

> One thing to clarify, is this an ADSL MOdem or a router ??
>
It's a combined device, and the adsl part is of no importance at present.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:56:48 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Gavin Miller schreef:

> Hey Ed,
>
>> I would be surprised to find that DHCP is not on by default
>
>
> Yeah me too, but if Al's getting "DHCP client did not get parameters. 
> DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background," 

Do you know wether his router-modem was attached or not? I haven't seen 
any confirmation yet.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:47:16 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Voytek Eymont schreef:

>Kris Steenhaut said:
>  
>
>
>>Are you aware a newbee hasn't the slightest idea what on Earth a subnet
>>might be? And keep in mind 192.168.1.254 is to odd to be a router's IP
>>address. But that still has to be confirmed.
>>    
>>
>
>hmmm, good q, what is a subnet ? a sub part of net ?, I guess
>
>why is 192.168.1.254 odd ? back when I went to school, numbers ending in
>'4' were always called 'even'
>
>  
>
Because none of the newer router in the whole World as an IP address 
like that.

Something I advise you to think about.

Meanwhile, I confess I'm not able to hear what Alan thinks. Clairvoyance 
is well beyond my capabilities. :-)

>Alam,
>as well as ping, try also:
>hostid (on the command line) and tell us what it says
>
>  
>
Alan should 1st of all have DHCP working.  You do know why, don't you?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:19:53 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Hi Kris,
I assume so as he had mentioned that the lan LED was illuminated.  The 
IP address given by Alan is correct according to the user manual found here:
http://www.billion dot com/support/download/usermanual/usermanual.htm
.... and it also states that DHCP should be enabled by default.

Cheers
G

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
> Gavin Miller schreef:
>
>> Hey Ed,
>>
>>> I would be surprised to find that DHCP is not on by default
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah me too, but if Al's getting "DHCP client did not get parameters. 
>> DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background," 
>
>
> Do you know wether his router-modem was attached or not? I haven't 
> seen any confirmation yet.
>
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**= Email   17 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:40:55 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:50 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>Alan Duval schreef:
>
>>
>>I connected the router to the ethernet port
>>
>? You do mean the  nic at your PC, do you?

Yes

>
>> and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
>>light and the LAN Port light came on.
>>The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web browser 
>>and type "192.168.1.254"
>>
>
>hmmmm... are you sure this is the ip address of your router?

Yes, it's in the manual that came with the router (page9). and also in the pdf manual.

>
>Can you post a link to your router please, we better have that at hand too.

Can't find any link but will send pdf manual privately.

>
>Now, let's do it step by step.
>
>Step 1: Instal the nic

Done 

>Step 2: enable dhcp at your PC

Done

>
>As I could understand, step 1 and step 2 are OK.

Yes

>
>Now step 3: at (re)boot, ans while the router-adsl device and nic 
>properly are connected to each other, connection in the background 
>should be made. If not, you'll se the message "DHCP server found no 
>parameters, press enter to continue".

Get the message:  "DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
background"

Then i installed NIC driver and followed steps 1-3 again and getting same message , this time after the screen 
showed:
" Network line speed is 100 Mbps / Full _Duplex Mode
SURECOM EP-320X-R 100/10M NDIS2 driver is installed"

>
>So, in order to proceed we must know wether that step 3 is OK or not.
>
>If step 3 is OK, then step 4 will be the to enterthe ip address of your 
>router. That ip address is generally something like 192.168.1.1 or 
>192.168.1.2, so I'm afraid your at the wrong track. So, report the  ip 
>address of your router please. And at present you don't have to care 
>about the adsl connection/signal at all.

No response when I type in http://192.168.1.254.

At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This occurred after reinstalling eCS from an 
image and then going through the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying the 
Ethernet adapter cable was not connected?  As my NIC card was in place and the router connected I 
checked the MPTS configuration and noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the 
Review current configuration section it showed:

No Network Adapter
0 - IBM TCP/IP
SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
1 - IBM TCP/IP

I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP  and then deleted "No Network Adapter",  exited and rebooted.

This time the NIC card was detected and booting continued with no message that DHCP did not get the 
parameters.
I then launched Firefox 1 and typed in the URL  http://192.163.1.254, pressed enter and the password 
window came up. I typed in the default username and password and got the status report web page. I tried 
the Wizard Setup but didn't enter any settings as i'm not connected to ADSL.  Then exited feeling very 
pleased. Rebooted but to my dismay booting stopped with the line "DHCP client did not get parameters....
Press enter to continue"
Tried this all again but haven't been able to enter the ip address.

>
>Incidentally, may I advise you, with an editor open the file
>
>\mptn\bin\setup.cmd
>
>and alter the line:
>
>dhcpstrt -i lan0
>
>to
>
>dhcpstrt -i lan0 -d 20
>
>that way the "wait" will be 20 seconds instead of 60, and 20 is plenty 
>of enough anyway.

Have done.

>
>Don't forget to post the link to your router's manual.

Sending pdf manual as attachment privately.

Regards,

Alan

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Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:53:34 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:50 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>>Alan Duval schreef:
>>
>>
>>>I connected the router to the ethernet port
>>>
>>
>>? You do mean the  nic at your PC, do you?
> 
> 
> Yes
> 
> 
>>>and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
>>>light and the LAN Port light came on.
>>>The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web browser 
>>>and type "192.168.1.254"
>>>
>>
>>hmmmm... are you sure this is the ip address of your router?
> 
> 
> Yes, it's in the manual that came with the router (page9). and also in the pdf manual.
> 
> 
>>Can you post a link to your router please, we better have that at hand too.
> 
> 
> Can't find any link but will send pdf manual privately.
> 
> 
> 
>>Now, let's do it step by step.
>>
>>Step 1: Instal the nic
> 
> 
> Done 
> 
> 
>>Step 2: enable dhcp at your PC
> 
> 
> Done
> 
> 
>>As I could understand, step 1 and step 2 are OK.
> 
> 
> Yes
> 
> 
>>Now step 3: at (re)boot, ans while the router-adsl device and nic 
>>properly are connected to each other, connection in the background 
>>should be made. If not, you'll se the message "DHCP server found no 
>>parameters, press enter to continue".
> 
> 
> Get the message:  "DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
> background"
> 
> Then i installed NIC driver and followed steps 1-3 again and getting same message , this time after the screen 
> showed:
> " Network line speed is 100 Mbps / Full _Duplex Mode
> SURECOM EP-320X-R 100/10M NDIS2 driver is installed"
> 
> 
>>So, in order to proceed we must know wether that step 3 is OK or not.
>>
>>If step 3 is OK, then step 4 will be the to enterthe ip address of your 
>>router. That ip address is generally something like 192.168.1.1 or 
>>192.168.1.2, so I'm afraid your at the wrong track. So, report the  ip 
>>address of your router please. And at present you don't have to care 
>>about the adsl connection/signal at all.
> 
> 
> No response when I type in http://192.168.1.254.
> 
> At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This occurred after reinstalling eCS from an 
> image and then going through the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying the 
> Ethernet adapter cable was not connected?  As my NIC card was in place and the router connected I 
> checked the MPTS configuration and noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the 
> Review current configuration section it showed:
> 
> No Network Adapter
> 0 - IBM TCP/IP
> SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
> 1 - IBM TCP/IP
> 
> I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP  and then deleted "No Network Adapter",  exited and rebooted.
> 
> This time the NIC card was detected and booting continued with no message that DHCP did not get the 
> parameters.
> I then launched Firefox 1 and typed in the URL  http://192.163.1.254, pressed enter and the password 
> window came up. I typed in the default username and password and got the status report web page. I tried 
> the Wizard Setup but didn't enter any settings as i'm not connected to ADSL.  Then exited feeling very 
> pleased. Rebooted but to my dismay booting stopped with the line "DHCP client did not get parameters....
> Press enter to continue"
> Tried this all again but haven't been able to enter the ip address.
> 
> 

Sound like the DHCP server is intermittant.

At this point I would wait until you actually have ADSL connected. Leave 
everything as it is andonce you have the ADSL link installed, restart 
everything and see what the staus is then.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   19 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:04:58 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Hi again Alan

Alan Duval wrote:

> I connected the router to the ethernet port and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
> light and the LAN Port light came on.
> The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web browser 
> and type "192.168.1.254" as the URL.  I did this but no "Enter Network Password" window displays as stated; 
> in fact the screen remains empty.

Did you type in ... "http://192.168.1.254"  without the quotes?

Kev
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**= Email   20 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:16:49 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:46:42 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>
>Allan,
>
>try typing on command line:
>
>ping 192.168.1.254
>
>this will confirm if PC can see the router
>unless it pings OK, you can't connect
>
>maybe pc is in a wrong subnet ?
>

Hi Voytek,

I typed in the above and the line came up:

"PING 192.168.1.254: 56 data bytes"

What that means I haven't a clue.

Regards

Alan

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**= Email   21 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:17:29 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kris and Alan

The exact model router I have is "Billion BIPAC-5100, ADSL router with 
4-port switch".  Mine came in a box with a plugpak, router, CD, a couple 
of cables and a printed manual.  Upon checking, I see that the printed 
manual is set out differently from the .PDF manual on the CD, but it 
does give the same info.  Both manuals give 192.168.1.254 as the 
router's IP, and it sure does work for me.  Of course, I am open to the 
idea that things change over time, but my router is only < 3 months old. 
  If yours is significantly different from that Alan then I see I'm only 
causing confusion, so please let me know so that I can butt out now.

Cheers
Kev

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> 
> Voytek Eymont schreef:
> 
>>
>> Allan,
>>
>> try typing on command line:
>>
>> ping 192.168.1.254
>>
>>  
>>
> I very much doubt that is the IP address of the router.
> 
> But at present that is not the issue:  the issue is wether DHCP 
> connection PC <--> router has been established or not.
> 
> Still awaiting the confirmation of the latter and a link to the router's 
> manual.
> 
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**= Email   22 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:33:13 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:31:25 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Voytek Eymont wrote:
>> Kris Steenhaut said:
>> 
>>>Voytek Eymont schreef:
>>>
>>>>try typing on command line:
>>>>
>>>>ping 192.168.1.254
>> 
>> 
>>>I very much doubt that is the IP address of the router.
>>>
>>>But at present that is not the issue:  the issue is wether DHCP
>>>connection PC <--> router has been established or not.
>>>
>>>Still awaiting the confirmation of the latter and a link to the router's
>>>manual.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> well, Alan seem to think it is, I suspect, the docs told him so
>> 
>> clearly, he didn't just dream up a string like "192.168.1.254"
>> 
>> if nothing else, it's a valid address, last valid address in that range
>> 
>> be it as it may, FWIS, this clearly is the issue, and, the 1st thing I
>> would do:
>> 
>> ping the router address, in this case, ping 192.168.1.254
>> that's precisely the issue
>> if that fails, nothing else will work, period
>> 
>> 
>> 
>Might I suggest the first thing is that at boot up a message is 
>displayed indicating that no DHCP server is found. Once this message 
>goes away, i would expect things to work "straight away".

Don't see any message " no DHCP server found"  only the message:
DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background.. Press 
Enter to continue"

>
>One thing to clarify, is this an ADSL MOdem or a router ??

It's a BIPAC 5100 ADSL Router with 4-port Switch

>
>Also to check if indeed an address has been assigned to the card the 
>command:
>
>IFCONFIG LAN0
>
>can be typed at the command line.

Says:

lan0  flags=108843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,LOOPBRD>
           inet  0.0.0.0   netmask  0xffffffff

What does that mean?

Alan

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**= Email   23 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:38:49 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:43:11 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>
>Kris Steenhaut said:
>> Voytek Eymont schreef:
>>>Allan,
>>>
>>>try typing on command line:
>>>
>>>ping 192.168.1.254
>>>
>>>this will confirm if PC can see the router
>>>unless it pings OK, you can't connect
>>>
>>>maybe pc is in a wrong subnet ?
>
>> Are you aware a newbee hasn't the slightest idea what on Earth a subnet
>> might be? And keep in mind 192.168.1.254 is to odd to be a router's IP
>> address. But that still has to be confirmed.
>
>hmmm, good q, what is a subnet ? a sub part of net ?, I guess
>
>why is 192.168.1.254 odd ? back when I went to school, numbers ending in
>'4' were always called 'even'
>
>g,d&r
>
>anyhow, Alan doesn't need to know what a subnet is/isn't to do this quuick
>test, and, tell us, then, it's up to us to understand it, and, tell him
>what to do
>
>not that I have done much of this sort of stuff lately, and, I don't
>proclaim to be an xpert, and, I don't have access to my OS/2 system right
>at this time, so, I'm relying on faint memory, and, can't provide more
>precise info how to set it up, but:
>
>Alam,
>as well as ping, try also:
>hostid (on the command line) and tell us what it says
>
>
>
>-- 
>Voytek

> 
>

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**= Email   24 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:41:18 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Also, if you like, check this out.  This is 1 ISP's instructions for 
connecting a Billion BIPAC-5100.

	http://www.arach dot net dot au/products/broadband/adsl/modems/support/billion/5100/

Alan Duval wrote:

>>Don't forget to post the link to your router's manual.
> 
> 
> Sending pdf manual as attachment privately.

If you sense it causing more confusion then get out straight away.

Kev
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**= Email   25 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:42:23 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:43:11 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>Alan,
>as well as ping, try also:
>hostid (on the command line) and tell us what it says

It says:
0.0.0.0

Result of PING already sent.

Regards,

Alan

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**= Email   26 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:42:55 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>> One thing to clarify, is this an ADSL MOdem or a router ??

Assuming it IS a Billion BIPAC-5100 it IS a router.
>>
> It's a combined device, and the adsl part is of no importance at present.

Correctamundo!!

Kev
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**= Email   27 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:55:44 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   Fwd: Re:  Ethernet adapters

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE==================
>From: "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
>To: "os2genau at os2 dot org dot au" <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
>Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:40:55 +1100 (AEDT)
>Reply-To: "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
>Priority: Normal
>X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2380 for OS/2 Warp 4.5
>In-Reply-To: <420CD18A.6030800 at hccnet.nl>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Subject: Re:  Ethernet adapters
>

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:50 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>Alan Duval schreef:
>
>>
>>I connected the router to the ethernet port
>>
>? You do mean the  nic at your PC, do you?

Yes

>
>> and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
>>light and the LAN Port light came on.
>>The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web browser 
>>and type "192.168.1.254"
>>
>
>hmmmm... are you sure this is the ip address of your router?

Yes, it's in the manual that came with the router (page9). and also in the pdf manual.

>
>Can you post a link to your router please, we better have that at hand too.

Can't find any link but will send pdf manual privately.

>
>Now, let's do it step by step.
>
>Step 1: Instal the nic

Done 

>Step 2: enable dhcp at your PC

Done

>
>As I could understand, step 1 and step 2 are OK.

Yes

>
>Now step 3: at (re)boot, ans while the router-adsl device and nic 
>properly are connected to each other, connection in the background 
>should be made. If not, you'll se the message "DHCP server found no 
>parameters, press enter to continue".

Get the message:  "DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
background"

Then i installed NIC driver and followed steps 1-3 again and getting same message , this time after the screen 
showed:
" Network line speed is 100 Mbps / Full _Duplex Mode
SURECOM EP-320X-R 100/10M NDIS2 driver is installed"

>
>So, in order to proceed we must know wether that step 3 is OK or not.
>
>If step 3 is OK, then step 4 will be the to enterthe ip address of your 
>router. That ip address is generally something like 192.168.1.1 or 
>192.168.1.2, so I'm afraid your at the wrong track. So, report the  ip 
>address of your router please. And at present you don't have to care 
>about the adsl connection/signal at all.

No response when I type in http://192.168.1.254.

At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This occurred after reinstalling eCS from an 
image and then going through the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying the 
Ethernet adapter cable was not connected?  As my NIC card was in place and the router connected I 
checked the MPTS configuration and noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the 
Review current configuration section it showed:

No Network Adapter
0 - IBM TCP/IP
SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
1 - IBM TCP/IP

I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP  and then deleted "No Network Adapter",  exited and rebooted.

This time the NIC card was detected and booting continued with no message that DHCP did not get the 
parameters.
I then launched Firefox 1 and typed in the URL  http://192.163.1.254, pressed enter and the password 
window came up. I typed in the default username and password and got the status report web page. I tried 
the Wizard Setup but didn't enter any settings as i'm not connected to ADSL.  Then exited feeling very 
pleased. Rebooted but to my dismay booting stopped with the line "DHCP client did not get parameters....
Press enter to continue"
Tried this all again but haven't been able to enter the ip address.

>
>Incidentally, may I advise you, with an editor open the file
>
>\mptn\bin\setup.cmd
>
>and alter the line:
>
>dhcpstrt -i lan0
>
>to
>
>dhcpstrt -i lan0 -d 20
>
>that way the "wait" will be 20 seconds instead of 60, and 20 is plenty 
>of enough anyway.

Have done.

>
>Don't forget to post the link to your router's manual.

Sending pdf manual as attachment privately.

Regards,

Alan

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**= Email   28 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:06:27 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Fwd: Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kris, Alan or any other interested parties,

Should Alan have a look in his HOSTS file and his RESOLV2 file.  Below 
are copy/pastes of mine.

HOSTS file ...

127.0.0.1             localhost

RESOLV2 file ...

domain
nameserver 192.168.1.254

If I'm on the wrong track stop me now.

Kev

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**= Email   29 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:07:22 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Fwd: Re:  Ethernet adapters

>
>On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:50 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Alan Duval schreef:
>>
>>>
>>>I connected the router to the ethernet port
>>>
>>? You do mean the  nic at your PC, do you?
>
>Yes
>
>>
>>> and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
>>>light and the LAN Port light came on.
>>>The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web 
browser 
>>>and type "192.168.1.254"
>>>
>>
>>hmmmm... are you sure this is the ip address of your router?
>
>Yes, it's in the manual that came with the router (page9). and also in the pdf manual.
>
>>
>>Can you post a link to your router please, we better have that at hand too.
>
>Can't find any link but will send pdf manual privately.
>
>
>>
>>Now, let's do it step by step.
>>
>>Step 1: Instal the nic
>
>Done 
>
>>Step 2: enable dhcp at your PC
>
>Done
>
>>
>>As I could understand, step 1 and step 2 are OK.
>
>Yes
>
>>
>>Now step 3: at (re)boot, ans while the router-adsl device and nic 
>>properly are connected to each other, connection in the background 
>>should be made. If not, you'll se the message "DHCP server found no 
>>parameters, press enter to continue".
>
>Get the message:  "DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
>background"
>
>Then i installed NIC driver and followed steps 1-3 again and getting same message , this time after the 
screen 
>showed:
>" Network line speed is 100 Mbps / Full _Duplex Mode
>SURECOM EP-320X-R 100/10M NDIS2 driver is installed"
>
>>
>>So, in order to proceed we must know wether that step 3 is OK or not.
>>
>>If step 3 is OK, then step 4 will be the to enterthe ip address of your 
>>router. That ip address is generally something like 192.168.1.1 or 
>>192.168.1.2, so I'm afraid your at the wrong track. So, report the  ip 
>>address of your router please. And at present you don't have to care 
>>about the adsl connection/signal at all.
>
>No response when I type in http://192.168.1.254.
>
>At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This occurred after reinstalling eCS from an 
>image and then going through the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying the 
>Ethernet adapter cable was not connected?  As my NIC card was in place and the router connected I 
>checked the MPTS configuration and noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the 
>Review current configuration section it showed:
>
>No Network Adapter
>0 - IBM TCP/IP
>SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
>1 - IBM TCP/IP
>
>I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP  and then deleted "No Network Adapter",  exited and rebooted.
>
>This time the NIC card was detected and booting continued with no message that DHCP did not get the 
>parameters.
>I then launched Firefox 1 and typed in the URL  http://192.163.1.254, pressed enter and the password 
>window came up. I typed in the default username and password and got the status report web page. I tried 
>the Wizard Setup but didn't enter any settings as i'm not connected to ADSL.  Then exited feeling very 
>pleased. Rebooted but to my dismay booting stopped with the line "DHCP client did not get parameters....
>Press enter to continue"
>Tried this all again but haven't been able to enter the ip address.
>
>>
>>Incidentally, may I advise you, with an editor open the file
>>
>>\mptn\bin\setup.cmd
>>
>>and alter the line:
>>
>>dhcpstrt -i lan0
>>
>>to
>>
>>dhcpstrt -i lan0 -d 20
>>
>>that way the "wait" will be 20 seconds instead of 60, and 20 is plenty 
>>of enough anyway.
>
>Have done.
>
>>
>>Don't forget to post the link to your router's manual.
>
>Sending pdf manual as attachment privately.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Alan
>
>
>===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE===================
>
>

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**= Email   30 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:12:35 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   Router setup

Hi everyone,

I don't know whether you are getting my replies to your eMails. A number weren't coming to me and I found 
them in the junk mail folder. I have Junkspy installed and  it seems overly zealous at times. 

Regards,

Alan Duval

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**= Email   31 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:13:47 +0800
From:  bob <bob at fots dot org dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Hi Alan,

Do you have another network cable available? If you do it may be worth 
trying. Also try using some of the other ports on the Billion. (assuming 
you haven't already :).

HTH

-- 
BOFH excuse #345:

Having to manually track the satellite.
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**= Email   32 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:17:11 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Router setup

That's OK.  That's probably where mine go, but they also probably 
deserve it.

Kev ;-)

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I don't know whether you are getting my replies to your eMails. A number weren't coming to me and I found 
> them in the junk mail folder. I have Junkspy installed and  it seems overly zealous at times. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan Duval
> 

>  

> 
> 
> 
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**= Email   33 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:36:34 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   Router connection

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:50 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

Alan Duval schreef:

I connected the router to the ethernet port

>? You do mean the  nic at your PC, do you?
>
Yes
>
> and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
>light and the LAN Port light came on.
>The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web 
browser 
>and type "192.168.1.254"
>
>>
>>hmmmm... are you sure this is the ip address of your router?
>

Yes, it's in the manual that came with the router (page9). and also in the pdf manual.

>
>>
>>Can you post a link to your router please, we better have that at hand too.
>

Can't find any link but will send pdf manual privately.

>>
>>Now, let's do it step by step.
>>
>>Step 1: Instal the nic
>

Done 

>
>>Step 2: enable dhcp at your PC
>

Done

>
>>
>>As I could understand, step 1 and step 2 are OK.
>

Yes
>
>>
>>Now step 3: at (re)boot, ans while the router-adsl device and nic 
>>properly are connected to each other, connection in the background 
>>should be made. If not, you'll se the message "DHCP server found no 
>>parameters, press enter to continue".
>

Get the message:  "DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
background"
Then i installed NIC driver and followed steps 1-3 again and getting same message , this time after the 
screen showed:
" Network line speed is 100 Mbps / Full _Duplex Mode
SURECOM EP-320X-R 100/10M NDIS2 driver is installed"

>>
>>So, in order to proceed we must know wether that step 3 is OK or not.
>>
>>If step 3 is OK, then step 4 will be the to enterthe ip address of your 
>>router. That ip address is generally something like 192.168.1.1 or 
>>192.168.1.2, so I'm afraid your at the wrong track. So, report the  ip 
>>address of your router please. And at present you don't have to care 
>>about the adsl connection/signal at all.
>

No response when I type in http://192.168.1.254.

>

At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This occurred after reinstalling eCS from an 
image and then going through the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying the 
Ethernet adapter cable was not connected?  As my NIC card was in place and the router connected I 
checked the MPTS configuration and noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the 
Review current configuration section it showed:

No Network Adapter
0 - IBM TCP/IP
SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
1 - IBM TCP/IP

I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP  and then deleted "No Network Adapter",  exited and rebooted.

This time the NIC card was detected and booting continued with no message that DHCP did not get the 
parameters.
I then launched Firefox 1 and typed in the URL  http://192.163.1.254, pressed enter and the password 
window came up. I typed in the default username and password and got the status report web page. I tried 
the Wizard Setup but didn't enter any settings as i'm not connected to ADSL.  Then exited feeling very 
pleased. Rebooted but to my dismay booting stopped with the line "DHCP client did not get 
parameters....Press enter to continue"
Tried this all again but haven't been able to enter the ip address.
>>
>>Incidentally, may I advise you, with an editor open the file
>>\mptn\bin\setup.cmd
>>and alter the line:
>>dhcpstrt -i lan0
>>to
>>dhcpstrt -i lan0 -d 20
>>that way the "wait" will be 20 seconds instead of 60, and 20 is plenty 
>>of enough anyway.
>

Have done.

>
>>Don't forget to post the link to your router's manual.
>

Sending pdf manual as attachment privately.

Regards,

Alan

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**= Email   34 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:55:11 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval said:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:46:42 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>Allan,
>>ping 192.168.1.254

>
> I typed in the above and the line came up:
>
> "PING 192.168.1.254: 56 data bytes"
>
> What that means I haven't a clue.

Alan,
unless it comes back, line after line, with response time, it isn't seeing
your device

what *I* would do, would be, set you PC's NIC to a fixed address in your
subnet, like:
192.168.1.1
restart TPC/IP (or, just restart the PC)

I'm sorry, I don't have access to an OS/2 system right know, so, can't
tell you exact steps how to accomplish it

you can either edit /mptn/bin/setup.cmd, or, run 'TCPCFG2' on command line
IP address:192.168.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
router 192.168.1.254

then, ipconfig lan0 down, ipconfig lan0 up (well, just reboot, as I can't
recall correct syntax)

hostid
will came back with
192.168.1.1

ping 192.168.1.254
will come back with responses, line after line

and, your router will work

anyhow, that's what I would do.

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   35 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:09:25 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   Router setup

Hi Kris,

I connected the router to the nic port of my PC.
and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
light and the LAN Port light came on.
The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web 
browser and type "192.168.1.254"
That address is in the manual that came with the router (page9). and also in the pdf manual.
I Can't find any link but will send pdf manual privately to Kris.

Step 1: I Installed the nic

Step 2: I enabled dhcp at my PC

Step 3: at (re)boot, while the router-adsl device and nic 
were connected to each other.

Get the message:  "DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
background"
Then i installed NIC driver and followed steps 1-3 again and getting same message , this time after the 
screen showed:
" Network line speed is 100 Mbps / Full _Duplex Mode
SURECOM EP-320X-R 100/10M NDIS2 driver is installed"

No response when I type in http://192.168.1.254.

At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This occurred after reinstalling eCS from an 
image and then going through the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying the 
Ethernet adapter cable was not connected?  As my NIC card was in place and the router connected I 
checked the MPTS configuration and noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the 
Review current configuration section it showed:
No Network Adapter
0 - IBM TCP/IP
SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
1 - IBM TCP/IP
I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP  and then deleted "No Network Adapter",  exited and rebooted.
This time the NIC card was detected and booting continued with no message that DHCP did not get the 
parameters.
I then launched Firefox 1 and typed in the URL  http://192.163.1.254, pressed enter and the password 
window came up. I typed in the default username and password and got the status report web page. I tried 
the Wizard Setup but didn't enter any settings as i'm not connected to ADSL.  Then exited feeling very 
pleased. Rebooted but to my dismay booting stopped with the line "DHCP client did not get 
parameters....Press enter to continue"
Tried this all again but haven't been able to enter the ip address.

Sending pdf manual as attachment privately to Kris

Regards,
Alan

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**= Email   36 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:54:35 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Router setup

Hi Alan

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi Kris,
> 
> I connected the router to the nic port of my PC.
> and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 
> light and the LAN Port light came on.
> The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator:  Launch the web 
> browser and type "192.168.1.254"
> That address is in the manual that came with the router (page9). and also in the pdf manual.
> I Can't find any link but will send pdf manual privately to Kris.

This all correct so far.
> 
> Step 1: I Installed the nic
> 
> Step 2: I enabled dhcp at my PC

Did you go to the "TCP/IP Configuration Notebook", then to the "Routing" 
tab and delete ALL routes?  This is important!  Highlight each/any 
defined routes, 1 at a time and delete them.  You want NO defined routes.

DHCP is enabled/disabled in the "TCP/IP Configuration Notebook", on the 
tab called "Network".  On that page, highlight "LAN Interface 0" and 
check the "Enable Interface" box and then select "Automatically, using 
DHCP".  That's all!!  Nothing more to do in the "TCP/IP Configuration 
Notebook".
> 
> Step 3: at (re)boot, while the router-adsl device and nic 
> were connected to each other.
> 
> Get the message:  "DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
> background"

This means that the DHCP stuff on your PC is looking for a DHCP server 
(your router) - and subsequently not finding one.
> Then i installed NIC driver and followed steps 1-3 again and getting same message , this time after the 
> screen showed:
> " Network line speed is 100 Mbps / Full _Duplex Mode
> SURECOM EP-320X-R 100/10M NDIS2 driver is installed"

This indicates that the NIC is in and loading properly, so this part is 
fine.  I assume that this loads from your CONFIG.SYS at each boot time. 
  If not, it must.

Now go to the "Adapters and Protocols" object in the "Network" folder in 
the "System Setup" folder.  Double click it.  Click the "Configure MPTS" 
button.  Check "LAN Adapters and Protocols" then click "Configure" 
There should be "3 Stages" outlined on the next screen.  Look at "Stage 
3".  The 1st line there should describe your LAN adapter.  The 2nd line 
should say "0 - IBM TCP/IP"  There should be NO other lines here in 
stage 3.  If this is not so, take your time, read what's there and 
add/remove lines until there are ONLY these 2 lines in "Stage 3".

When that is done back out, saving your new setup.  I think this 
requires a re-boot, but I'm not sure.

I have written this description with each of the relevant pages/objects 
open on my own machine.  What I have described above IS CORRECT and DOES 
WORK.

If you have done EXACTLY what I've stated here, and ALL so far is as 
described above, then it should work.  If not, from here on I'd go 
looking for a faulty ethernet cable.

> No response when I type in http://192.168.1.254.

You have the address (IP) correct, so be put off by doubters!

Go through and double and triple check each of the steps described above 
and let's know what happens.

Cheers
Kev
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**= Email   37 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:01:52 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Router setup

Alan

A correction ...

Kev wrote:

> You have the address (IP) correct, so be put off by doubters!

Should read ...

   You have the address (IP) correct, so DON'T be put off by doubters!

Cheers
Kev
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**= Email   38 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:06:13 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Router setup

Just another thought.

Alan Duval wrote:

> I connected the router to the nic port of my PC.

You have ensured that you've connected 1 of the 4 switch ports (router 
ports) to your NIC and not the ADSL port to your NIC???

Kev
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**= Email   39 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:24:31 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Router setup

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:06:13 +0800, Kev wrote:

>Just another thought.
>
>Alan Duval wrote:
>
>> I connected the router to the nic port of my PC.
>
>You have ensured that you've connected 1 of the 4 switch ports (router 
>ports) to your NIC and not the ADSL port to your NIC???

Yes
Also checked resolv2....It was empty, so I typed in the entries you gave and saved them but still unable to 
access the Router.

I'm getting quite frustrated.

Alan

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**= Email   40 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:42:18 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:55:11 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>
>Alan Duval said:
>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:46:42 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>>Allan,
>>>ping 192.168.1.254
>

I changed my router connection to another port and typed inPING and the ip address above and line after line 
comes up saying:

wrote 192.168.1.254 64 chars  ret=1
send to: no route to host

Alan

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**= Email   41 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:01:26 +1100
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   Fw: Router setup

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Duval <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
To: os2genau at os2 dot org dot com dot au <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
Date: Saturday, February 12, 2005 17:57
Subject: Router setup

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:50 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

Alan Duval schreef:

I connected the router to the ethernet port

>? You do mean the nic at your PC, do you?

Yes

> and switched on the power to the router. The power light, SYS 

>light and the LAN Port light came on.

>The PDF manual that came with the router says to access the Web Configurator: Launch the web browser 

>and type "192.168.1.254"

>>

>>hmmmm... are you sure this is the ip address of your router?

>

Yes, it's in the manual that came with the router (page9). and also in the pdf manual.

>>

>>Can you post a link to your router please, we better have that at hand too.

>

Can't find any link but will send pdf manual privately.

>>

>>Now, let's do it step by step.

>>

>>Step 1: Instal the nic

>

Done 

>

>>Step 2: enable dhcp at your PC

>

Done

>

>>

>>As I could understand, step 1 and step 2 are OK.

>

Yes

>

>>

>>Now step 3: at (re)boot, ans while the router-adsl device and nic 

>>properly are connected to each other, connection in the background 

>>should be made. If not, you'll se the message "DHCP server found no 

>>parameters, press enter to continue".

>

Get the message: "DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background"

Then i installed NIC driver and followed steps 1-3 again and getting same message , this time after the 

screen showed:

" Network line speed is 100 Mbps / Full _Duplex Mode

SURECOM EP-320X-R 100/10M NDIS2 driver is installed"

>>

>>So, in order to proceed we must know wether that step 3 is OK or not.

>>

>>If step 3 is OK, then step 4 will be the to enterthe ip address of your 

>>router. That ip address is generally something like 192.168.1.1 or 

>>192.168.1.2, so I'm afraid your at the wrong track. So, report the ip 

>>address of your router please. And at present you don't have to care 

>>about the adsl connection/signal at all.

>

No response when I type in http://192.168.1.254.

>

At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This occurred after reinstalling eCS from an image and then going through the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying the Ethernet adapter cable was not connected? As my NIC card was in place and the router connected I checked the MPTS configuration and noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the Review current configuration section it showed:

No Network Adapter

0 - IBM TCP/IP

SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter

1 - IBM TCP/IP

I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP and then deleted "No Network Adapter", exited and rebooted.

This time the NIC card was detected and booting continued with no message that DHCP did not get the 

parameters.

I then launched Firefox 1 and typed in the URL http://192.163.1.254, pressed enter and the password 

window came up. I typed in the default username and password and got the status report web page. I tried the Wizard Setup but didn't enter any settings as i'm not connected to ADSL. Then exited feeling very pleased. Rebooted but to my dismay booting stopped with the line "DHCP client did not get parameters....Press enter to continue"

Tried this all again but haven't been able to enter the ip address.

>>

>>Incidentally, may I advise you, with an editor open the file

>>\mptn\bin\setup.cmd

>>and alter the line:

>>dhcpstrt -i lan0

>>to

>>dhcpstrt -i lan0 -d 20

>>that way the "wait" will be 20 seconds instead of 60, and 20 is plenty 

>>of enough anyway.

>

Have done.

>

>>Don't forget to post the link to your router's manual.

>

Sending pdf manual as attachment privately.

Regards,

Alan

[attachments have been removed]
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**= Email   42 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:06:07 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Hi Alan,

What Kev sugessted should work, but seeing as it didn't, allow me to 
offer this suggestion.  I don't mean to be critical or condecending so 
forgive me if it sounds so, but...

Go into MPTS and check everything there.  If you have two NIC entries; 
one being 0 the other 1, make sure the entry that describes the NIC card 
has TCP/IP as a protocol and the other does not.  It may well be that 
adapter 0 may be NULL and have TCP/IP as it's protocol and confusing.  
It might even be worth removing the NULL adapter and renumbering your 
NIC adapter to 0 or even removing all adapters and reinstall them.  It's 
a long shot here as OS/2 is supposed to handle multiple NIC's quite 
well, but we have to get you going ;-)

Another thing that just hit me as I write this.  If you NIC is adapter 1 
then enableing adapter 0 in TCP/IP config is no good.  It needs to 
match.  ( see waht I mean about condecending.  Sorry ).

Cheers
G

>  
>
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**= Email   43 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:07:18 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Java programs

I've got it going at last. I must say that my initial impression is that 
it is the best java app that I have seen to date.
Resizable windows and text, but no drag and drop of files.

The syntax highlighting doesn't seem to be working, can't seem to find 
out where to set the file type, and what I think is the method of adding 
mode.xml files which define the syntax doesn't seem to work.
Seems I need to investigate further.

I'm not sure I'll be throwing my current editor away just yet.

I modified my config.sys and replaced all references to java11

I also went through the registry and edited all the java entries.
This was needed because I moved java 1.4.2 from \Programs\ to the root 
directory.

I then had to write an install command file and finally had to edit the 
start command file.

If anyone wants the gory details, I'll send them to him.

Regards

Dennis.

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Dennis Nolan wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I've just come across a java program jedit and am unable to get it to 
>> run/install
>>
>> Previously I've run java programs using a command like "java -jar 
>> jedit42install.jar"
>>
>> This brings up an error dialog.
>>
>> Anyone got any advice
>>
>> Regards
>> Dennis.
>>
> 
>>
>
> What does the error dialog say ???
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   44 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:08:47 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Fw: Router setup

Hi Alan

Alan Duval wrote:
> 
> At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This
> occurred after reinstalling eCS from an image and then going through
> the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying
> the Ethernet adapter cable was not connected? As my NIC card was in
> place and the router connected I checked the MPTS configuration and
> noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the
> Review current configuration section it showed:
> 
> No Network Adapter
> 
> 0 - IBM TCP/IP
> 
> SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
> 
> 1 - IBM TCP/IP
> 
> I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP and then deleted "No Network
> Adapter", exited and rebooted.

Please note:  This (below) is what should be in the "Stage 3 - Review 
Current Configuration" in the "Adapter and Protocol Configuration" 
window.  If you have only 1 NIC installed, it is NIC number 0, and it 
must have 1 (or more - but only 1 for now please) corresponding 
protocols installed.  Hence the ZERO in front of the line ...
0 - IBM TCP/IP

SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
	0 - IBM TCP/IP

Kev
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**= Email   45 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:19:05 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:   ADSL setup

Hello all

Alan's ADSL setup thread has now split into several threads (in my 
Mozilla Mail at least).  This is my attempt to bring it all back under a 
common thread to keep all the suggestions etc linear.  My pea brain 
needs this.  Here's a re-post of my last message, which I see has been 
seconded by Gavin Miller.

Hi Alan

Alan Duval wrote:

 >
 > At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This
 > occurred after reinstalling eCS from an image and then going through
 > the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying
 > the Ethernet adapter cable was not connected? As my NIC card was in
 > place and the router connected I checked the MPTS configuration and
 > noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the
 > Review current configuration section it showed:
 >
 > No Network Adapter
 >
 > 0 - IBM TCP/IP
 >
 > SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
 >
 > 1 - IBM TCP/IP
 >
 > I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP and then deleted "No Network
 > Adapter", exited and rebooted.

Please note:  This (below) is what should be in the "Stage 3 - Review 
Current Configuration" in the "Adapter and Protocol Configuration" 
window.  If you have only 1 NIC installed, it is NIC number 0 (zero), 
and it must have 1 (or more - but only 1 for now please) corresponding 
protocols installed.  Hence the ZERO in front of the line ...
0 - IBM TCP/IP

SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
     0 - IBM TCP/IP

There should be NO OTHER LINES in that window.

Kev
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**= Email   46 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:27:41 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Alan

In fact , as I contemplate more what you said below, the more I'm 
hopeful that this is your problem.

>  > No Network Adapter
>  >
>  > 0 - IBM TCP/IP
>  >
>  > SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
>  >
>  > 1 - IBM TCP/IP
>  >
>  > I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP and then deleted "No Network
>  > Adapter", exited and rebooted.

When you remove "No Network Adapter" your Surecomp adapter defaults to 
become adapter zero, but you have left a protocol attached to adapter 
one - which no longer exists.  You must have what I stated previously

SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter
	0 - IBM TCP/IP

Kev
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**= Email   47 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:43:13 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Hi Alan

If that last lot hasn't worked, go to a command line and enter this 
command     netstat -n |c:\netstat.txt
When done, find NETSTAT.TXT and copy and paste its contents into an 
email and send it to the list.

Kev

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**= Email   48 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:01:25 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Hi Alan

If ALL else fails, we can install Desktop on Call and have a go 
remotely.  I have a friend here who has used it in the past.  He used to 
be an OS/2 eCS user, but is a Linux buff now.  He listens in on this 
list sometimes.  I think we treat it as a last resort.

Kev
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**= Email   49 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:22:53 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Router setup

Alan
 From memory Resolve2 gives the results of the resolve process, so if it 
is blank it means that you are connected to nothing

But I could be wrong

Also from memory your MIC should be adapter 0 not 1

however in C:\ibmcom\LanTran.log you should find the configuration of 
the adapter
Specificly you should get something like

TCPBEUI: Logical adapter 0 is bound to TCP/IP interface lan0.
Adapter 1 is using node address 00051C169DD0.  The Token-Ring format is 
00A03868B90B.

The first of these lines is the important line. These are the last two 
lines in mime.

If lan0 is not bound with TCP/IP you are not going to connect to anything

Also in c:\mptn\bin\mptconfig.ini  look for something like

[DHCP]
  Adapter = 0
  ClientID = MAC
  DDNS = No

This indicates which adapter DHCP is using

Hope this is helpful

Dennis.

Alan Duval wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:06:13 +0800, Kev wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Just another thought.
>>
>>Alan Duval wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I connected the router to the nic port of my PC.
>>>      
>>>
>>You have ensured that you've connected 1 of the 4 switch ports (router 
>>ports) to your NIC and not the ADSL port to your NIC???
>>    
>>
>
>Yes
>Also checked resolv2....It was empty, so I typed in the entries you gave and saved them but still unable to 
>access the Router.
>
>I'm getting quite frustrated.
>
>Alan
>
>

> 

>
>
>  
>
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**= Email   50 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:00:51 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Ed Durrant schreef:

>
> Sound like the DHCP server is intermittant.
>
> At this point I would wait until you actually have ADSL connected. 
> Leave everything as it is andonce you have the ADSL link installed, 
> restart everything and see what the staus is then.

Repeat again: adsl nor any connection isn't necessary and doesn't matter.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   51 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:02:08 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval schreef:

>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:46:42 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Allan,
>>
>>try typing on command line:
>>
>>ping 192.168.1.254
>>
>>this will confirm if PC can see the router
>>unless it pings OK, you can't connect
>>
>>maybe pc is in a wrong subnet ?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>Hi Voytek,
>
>I typed in the above and the line came up:
>
>"PING 192.168.1.254: 56 data bytes"
>
>  
>
You shoudn't do this at this stage. Begin with the begin.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   52 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:08:36 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Voytek Eymont schreef:

>Alan,
>unless it comes back, line after line, with response time, it isn't seeing
>your device
>
>what *I* would do, would be, set you PC's NIC to a fixed address in your
>subnet, like:
>192.168.1.1
>restart TPC/IP (or, just restart the PC)
>
>I'm sorry, I don't have access to an OS/2 system right know, so, can't
>tell you exact steps how to accomplish it
>
>you can either edit /mptn/bin/setup.cmd, or, run 'TCPCFG2' on command line
>IP address:192.168.1.1
>netmask 255.255.255.0
>router 192.168.1.254
>
>then, ipconfig lan0 down, ipconfig lan0 up (well, just reboot, as I can't
>recall correct syntax)
>
>hostid
>will came back with
>192.168.1.1
>
>ping 192.168.1.254
>will come back with responses, line after line
>
>and, your router will work
>
>anyhow, that's what I would do.
>
>  
>
Good heavens!
You really like it to know-down newbees, don't you?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:12:00 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Fwd: Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kev schreef:

> Kris, Alan or any other interested parties,
>
> Should Alan have a look in his HOSTS file and his RESOLV2 file. Below 
> are copy/pastes of mine.
>
Not really, for 3 reasons:

- it is much simpler than that.
- the file is renewed at each dhcp go
- it is something a newbee shouldn't bother with.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   54 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:21:02 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Fw: Router setup

Alan Duval schreef:

>I then launched Firefox 1 and typed in the URL http://192.163.1.254, pressed enter and the password 
>
>window came up. I typed in the default username and password and got the status report web page. I tried the Wizard Setup but didn't enter any settings as i'm not connected to ADSL.
>
You could have done, if you had already userid and password.

> Then exited feeling very pleased. Rebooted but to my dismay booting stopped with the line "DHCP client did not get parameters....Press enter to continue"
>
>  
>
Tried this all again but haven't been able to enter the ip address.

Maybe the knowleadgeables can come in now, I haven't the explanation at 
hand right now.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:25:13 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> Repeat again: adsl nor any connection isn't necessary and doesn't matter.

This is correct.  I was playing with mine a week before I had ADSL 
connected.

Kev
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**= Email   56 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:58:35 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Gavin Miller schreef:

> Hi Kris,
> I assume so as he had mentioned that the lan LED was illuminated.  The 
> IP address given by Alan is correct according to the user manual found 
> here:
> http://www.billion dot com/support/download/usermanual/usermanual.htm
> ... and it also states that DHCP should be enabled by default.
>
Indeed, Alan has sent me the manual, so we can be sure about that now.

And meanwhile we know the problem it at tcpip level.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   57 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:04:36 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kev schreef:

> Kris and Alan
>
> The exact model router I have is "Billion BIPAC-5100, ADSL router with 
> 4-port switch". Mine came in a box with a plugpak, router, CD, a 
> couple of cables and a printed manual. Upon checking, I see that the 
> printed manual is set out differently from the .PDF manual on the CD, 
> but it does give the same info. Both manuals give 192.168.1.254 as the 
> router's IP, and it sure does work for me. Of course, I am open to the 
> idea that things change over time, but my router is only < 3 months 
> old. If yours is significantly different from that Alan then I see I'm 
> only causing confusion, so please let me know so that I can butt out now.
>
As the manual says so and as Alan has gone already once into the router, 
we are sure:

- the ip address is right
- the problem is situated at the tcpip level
- the problem to is to many conflcting and incorrect advices alas.

> Cheers
> Kev
>
> Kris Steenhaut wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Voytek Eymont schreef:
>>
>>>
>>> Allan,
>>>
>>> try typing on command line:
>>>
>>> ping 192.168.1.254
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I very much doubt that is the IP address of the router.
>>
>> But at present that is not the issue: the issue is wether DHCP 
>> connection PC <--> router has been established or not.
>>
>> Still awaiting the confirmation of the latter and a link to the 
>> router's manual.
>>
 
>
> 

>
>

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   58 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:50:50 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Actually ping 192.168.1.255   this is the broadcast address and will 
return with responses from anything within the net mask range.
If nothing is returned then there is nothing is connected.

I feel there is a basic assumption that is incorrect here.

What is the result of ifconfig lan0
I suspect that the IP address is 0.0.0.0 which indicates no DHCP

Instead of using DHCP disable it and assign himself an address of 
192.168.1.200
Maybe DHCP isn't working in the router
If it works this way he can check the modem configuration. Or get it 
replaced.

Also dump the ?:\IbmLan\IbmLan.Ini file and see how the adapter is set up

Also look at ?:\mptn\etc\dhcpmon.ini  you should see

DHCPMON_SETTINGS LAN0 in it.

Again from memory when you have an dial-up Internet connection without a 
local LAN and hence no network card you need to have adapter 0 set to no 
network adapter. This is so that you have something for TCP/IP to bind 
to. It is actually a virtual adapter.

As soon as you install a network card you should  install it in adapter 0.

There is a need to keep  ppp configured as it will normaly use lan0 when 
standalone, I can't remember how

As far as I can remember, lan0 and lan1 use adapter0
Adapter1 would use lan2 and lan3

Regards

Dennis.

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
> Alan Duval schreef:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:46:42 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Allan,
>>>
>>> try typing on command line:
>>>
>>> ping 192.168.1.254
>>>
>>> this will confirm if PC can see the router
>>> unless it pings OK, you can't connect
>>>
>>> maybe pc is in a wrong subnet ?
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Voytek,
>>
>> I typed in the above and the line came up:
>>
>> "PING 192.168.1.254: 56 data bytes"
>>
>>  
>>
> You shoudn't do this at this stage. Begin with the begin.
>
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**= Email   59 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:03:00 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   Terminology & requests

Hi,

When a NIC card is installed and a Router connected to connect to an ISP where do the Host IP and 
Destination IP address belong to?  Im confused as to which is the host. I think I am going to have to enter the 
Host and destination addresses and NIC card address in the TCPCFG2 and MPTS configuration to get any 
further.

In MPTS I note that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window when IBM TCP/IP is highlighted  and 
edit button pressed a window comes up asking for a network Interface Type which has to be a decimal 
number. When the SURECOM driver is highlighted and edit pressed a window comes up asking for:

Medium Type   ( _AUTO is in this box at present)
Network adapter address
Node address
Bus number
Device number
Early Tx Threshold FIFO:

What should be put in these boxes ?

Regards

Alan

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**= Email   60 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:32:58 +1000
From:  "David Shearer" <dshe5874 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:   Fonts and Printing

I have an Epson C61 USB Printer which works fine under eCs - using EPNOMI drivers.  However I have 
been trying to print with different fonts selected in a word processing document (eg wordpro).  However I do 
not get the results I expect when I print the page.

What is the trick with printing? -  I have installed True Type fonts in addition to PS Fonts etc.  They come up 
in Wordpro but when printed they all resemble Times new roman or courier.

Anyone got anyideas?

David Shearer

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**= Email   61 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:44:36 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Terminology & requests

Hi Alan

Leave them alone.  If they're still at defaults (as installed 
originally), leave them there.  I've already been VERY clear about what 
needs changing/checking in Adapter and Protocol Configuration.

Kev

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When a NIC card is installed and a Router connected to connect to an ISP where do the Host IP and 
> Destination IP address belong to?  Im confused as to which is the host. I think I am going to have to enter the 
> Host and destination addresses and NIC card address in the TCPCFG2 and MPTS configuration to get any 
> further.
> 
> In MPTS I note that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window when IBM TCP/IP is highlighted  and 
> edit button pressed a window comes up asking for a network Interface Type which has to be a decimal 
> number. When the SURECOM driver is highlighted and edit pressed a window comes up asking for:
> 
> Medium Type   ( _AUTO is in this box at present)
> Network adapter address
> Node address
> Bus number
> Device number
> Early Tx Threshold FIFO:
> 
> What should be put in these boxes ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 

>  

> 
> 
> 
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**= Email   62 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:54:51 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Terminology & requests

Alan

I apologize.  I see that I'm becoming a little exasperated.  If all else 
fails contact me.  I did EXACTLY this install <3 months ago.

Kev

Kev wrote:
> Hi Alan
> 
> Leave them alone.  If they're still at defaults (as installed 
> originally), leave them there.  I've already been VERY clear about what 
> needs changing/checking in Adapter and Protocol Configuration.
> 
> Kev
> 
> Alan Duval wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> When a NIC card is installed and a Router connected to connect to an 
>> ISP where do the Host IP and Destination IP address belong to?  Im 
>> confused as to which is the host. I think I am going to have to enter 
>> the Host and destination addresses and NIC card address in the TCPCFG2 
>> and MPTS configuration to get any further.
>>
>> In MPTS I note that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window 
>> when IBM TCP/IP is highlighted  and edit button pressed a window comes 
>> up asking for a network Interface Type which has to be a decimal 
>> number. When the SURECOM driver is highlighted and edit pressed a 
>> window comes up asking for:
>>
>> Medium Type   ( _AUTO is in this box at present)
>> Network adapter address
>> Node address
>> Bus number
>> Device number
>> Early Tx Threshold FIFO:
>>
>> What should be put in these boxes ?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
> 
>>
>>  
>
>>
>>
>>
 
> 
> 

> 
> 
> 
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**= Email   63 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:16:18 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Terminology & requests

There is also the option to reinstall eCS.

I've found it is difficult to configure networking after the 
installation, but the installer does a good job of it as long as it's 
told that it requires a direct connection to the Internet.

Otherwise
Look at the Lantrans.Log file in the \IBMCOM\ directory

Also the Ibmlan.ini file in the \IBMLAN\ directory

Also the dhcpcd.cfg file in the \MPTN\ETC\ directory

cut and past the contents of the files so we can see how the system is 
configured.

The above info will indicate how the computer is set up

Also in the IBMLAN\LOGS\ directory there are error files, is there 
anything in them.

regards
Dennis.

Kev wrote:

> Alan
>
> I apologize.  I see that I'm becoming a little exasperated.  If all 
> else fails contact me.  I did EXACTLY this install <3 months ago.
>
> Kev
>
> Kev wrote:
>
>> Hi Alan
>>
>> Leave them alone.  If they're still at defaults (as installed 
>> originally), leave them there.  I've already been VERY clear about 
>> what needs changing/checking in Adapter and Protocol Configuration.
>>
>> Kev
>>
>> Alan Duval wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When a NIC card is installed and a Router connected to connect to an 
>>> ISP where do the Host IP and Destination IP address belong to?  Im 
>>> confused as to which is the host. I think I am going to have to 
>>> enter the Host and destination addresses and NIC card address in the 
>>> TCPCFG2 and MPTS configuration to get any further.
>>>
>>> In MPTS I note that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window 
>>> when IBM TCP/IP is highlighted  and edit button pressed a window 
>>> comes up asking for a network Interface Type which has to be a 
>>> decimal number. When the SURECOM driver is highlighted and edit 
>>> pressed a window comes up asking for:
>>>
>>> Medium Type   ( _AUTO is in this box at present)
>>> Network adapter address
>>> Node address
>>> Bus number
>>> Device number
>>> Early Tx Threshold FIFO:
>>>
>>> What should be put in these boxes ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
 
>>>
>>>  

>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
>>
>> 
>
>>
>>
>>
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   64 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:16:44 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:50:50 +1100, Dennis Nolan wrote:

>Actually ping 192.168.1.255   this is the broadcast address and will 
>return with responses from anything within the net mask range.
>If nothing is returned then there is nothing is connected.
>
>I feel there is a basic assumption that is incorrect here.
>
>
>What is the result of ifconfig lan0
>I suspect that the IP address is 0.0.0.0 which indicates no DHCP

[G:\]ifconfig lan0
lan0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,LOOPBRD>
        inet 0.0.0.0  netmask 0xffffffff

[G:\]

>
>Instead of using DHCP disable it and assign himself an address of 
>192.168.1.200
>Maybe DHCP isn't working in the router

How do i do this ?

>If it works this way he can check the modem configuration. Or get it 
>replaced.
>
>Also dump the ?:\IbmLan\IbmLan.Ini file and see how the adapter is set up
>
>Also look at ?:\mptn\etc\dhcpmon.ini  you should see
>
>DHCPMON_SETTINGS LAN0 in it.
>

No such files found

>
>Again from memory when you have an dial-up Internet connection without a 
>local LAN and hence no network card you need to have adapter 0 set to no 
>network adapter. This is so that you have something for TCP/IP to bind 
>to. It is actually a virtual adapter.
>
>As soon as you install a network card you should  install it in adapter 0.
>
>There is a need to keep  ppp configured as it will normaly use lan0 when 
>standalone, I can't remember how
>
>As far as I can remember, lan0 and lan1 use adapter0
>Adapter1 would use lan2 and lan3
>

Regards

Alan

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**= Email   65 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:23:11 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Terminology & requests

Alan Duval wrote:

>Hi,
>
><snipped>
>  
>
In MPTS I note that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window 
when IBM TCP/IP is highlighted and edit button pressed a window comes up 
asking for a network Interface Type which has to be a decimal number. 
When the SURECOM driver is highlighted and edit pressed a window comes 
up asking for:

>Medium Type   ( _AUTO is in this box at present)
>Network adapter address
>Node address
>Bus number
>Device number
>Early Tx Threshold FIFO:
>
>What should be put in these boxes ?
>  
>

Hi Alan,

As Kev has already indicated you can certainly leave those entries blank.
FWIW the TCP/IP entry would normally be "6" [Ethernet V2], but this is 
only needed for SNMP [Simple Network Management Protocol = remote 
network monitoring/administration], which I doubt you'll *ever* be running.
The 2nd to 5th entries in that list above are associated with having 
multiple identical NICs in the one machine, or where you want to spoof a 
MAC address for one specific NIC for some reason, and in the former 
isn't always necessary anyhow.
Most 100Mbit capable cards have the identical set of options to above, 
and unless the driver has a bad implementation for _AUTO it shouldn't be 
necessary to vary that.

HTH

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
--------------------
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**= Email   66 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:30:10 +1000
From:  Mike O'Connor <mikeoc at dodo dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:50:50 +1100, Dennis Nolan wrote:
>
>>Actually ping 192.168.1.255   this is the broadcast address and will 
>>return with responses from anything within the net mask range.
>>If nothing is returned then there is nothing is connected.
>>
>>I feel there is a basic assumption that is incorrect here.
>>
>>
>>What is the result of ifconfig lan0
>>I suspect that the IP address is 0.0.0.0 which indicates no DHCP
>>    
>>
>
>
>[G:\]ifconfig lan0
>lan0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,LOOPBRD>
>        inet 0.0.0.0  netmask 0xffffffff
>
>[G:\]
>  
>
[no NIC configured]

>>Instead of using DHCP disable it and assign himself an address of 
>>192.168.1.200
>>Maybe DHCP isn't working in the router
>>    
>>
>
>How do i do this ?
>  
>

Hi Alan,

On the [cover] page of TCP/IP Configuration Notebook, untick the DHCP 
[automatic] setting and tick [Manually] and enter above dotted I.P. 
numbers in there with netmask of 255.255.255.0.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
--------------------
MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
--------------------
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**= Email   67 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:32:30 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Router setup

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:22:53 +1100, Dennis Nolan wrote:

>Alan
> From memory Resolve2 gives the results of the resolve process, so if it 
>is blank it means that you are connected to nothing
>
>But I could be wrong
>
>Also from memory your MIC should be adapter 0 not 1
>
>however in C:\ibmcom\LanTran.log you should find the configuration of 
>the adapter
>Specificly you should get something like
>
>TCPBEUI: Logical adapter 0 is bound to TCP/IP interface lan0.
>Adapter 1 is using node address 00051C169DD0.  The Token-Ring format is 
>00A03868B90B.

This is all I get:
LT00073: FFST/2 is installed but is not started.  LANTRAN.LOG is being created.
IBM OS/2 LANMSGDD [05/21/04] 6.00 is loaded and operational.
IBM OS/2 LAN Netbind

>
>The first of these lines is the important line. These are the last two 
>lines in mime.
>
>If lan0 is not bound with TCP/IP you are not going to connect to anything
>
>Also in c:\mptn\bin\mptconfig.ini  look for something like
>
>[DHCP]
>  Adapter = 0
>  ClientID = MAC
>  DDNS = No
>
>This indicates which adapter DHCP is using

Found this:
[DHCP]
  Adapter        = 0
  ClientID       = MAC
  DDNS           = NO 
  NumLogFiles    = 
  LogFileSize    = 
  LogFileName    = 
  SYSERR         = NO 
  OBJERR         = NO 
  PROTERR        = NO 
  WARNING        = NO 
  EVENT          = NO 
  ACTION         = NO 
  INFO           = NO 
  ACNTING        = NO 
  TRACE          = NO 

Regards

Alan

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