Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1047
From: Digest <deadmail>
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:01:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Friday 11 February 2005
 Number  1047
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
2  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
3  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
4  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
6   Java programs : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
7  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
8  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
9  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
10  Re:  Java programs Update : Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
11  Re:  Java programs : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
12  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
13  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
14  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
15  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
16  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
17  Re:  Java programs Update : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
18  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
19  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
20  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
21  Re:  Java programs Update : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 06:54:14 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval wrote:

> Unfortunately it's going to be some time before I can get Broadband as I received an Email from TPG stating 
> 
> ....... "Unfortunately, we are currently unable to activate the ADSL connection on
> your number as we have been advised by Telstra that there are no available
> ADSL ports at your local exchange."
> 
> They say it may take 2 - 12 weeks before I can be connected. Anyhow at least i'll have everything ready to 
> go when  the ports become available.
> 
> Alan 
> 

Well there's a "concise" quote 2 - 12 weeks ??  It means they don't know 
!! So TPG sold you the equipment BEFORE checking service availability - 
that's not very professional of them !

I'm not sure where you're located in this broad land but if your in 
Sydney or Melbourne, Wireless is now becoming another, cost effective 
option and is not limited by Telstra's exchange capacity.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:20:48 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Ed

I can vouch for that. I am in Sydney and using unwired. My exchange is 
ADSL enabled but and its a big but, I can't get ADSL because I am 
connected to a RIM, which is not ADSL enabled.  Once VOIP is sorted out 
then I might get rid of my landline totally. 

regards
Ken

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Alan Duval wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately it's going to be some time before I can get Broadband 
>> as I received an Email from TPG stating
>> ....... "Unfortunately, we are currently unable to activate the ADSL 
>> connection on
>> your number as we have been advised by Telstra that there are no 
>> available
>> ADSL ports at your local exchange."
>>
>> They say it may take 2 - 12 weeks before I can be connected. Anyhow 
>> at least i'll have everything ready to go when  the ports become 
>> available.
>>
>> Alan
>
>
>
> Well there's a "concise" quote 2 - 12 weeks ??  It means they don't 
> know !! So TPG sold you the equipment BEFORE checking service 
> availability - that's not very professional of them !
>
> I'm not sure where you're located in this broad land but if your in 
> Sydney or Melbourne, Wireless is now becoming another, cost effective 
> option and is not limited by Telstra's exchange capacity.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:20:09 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:59:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>
>Now type TCPCFG2 at the command prompt and enter.
>
>when the program loads, make sure the enable interface is clicked and
>"automatically using DHCP" is selected. Press OK twice.
>
>Turn on the router, remove the diskette and then shutdown and restart 
>the system.
>
>If all has gone well, you know have network functionality - try 
>accessing a website in the browser.
>
 Hi Ed,

I have the network card installed  and configured as you advised.

On booting the boot screen says:

"Network speed is 100 Mbps / Full_Duplex Mode"
SURECOM EP-320X-R-100/10M PCI Adapter NDIS2 driver is installed"

Then the line:

"DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background."

Can I do anything else to test setup seeing that TPG haven't activated the broadband connection?
Is it possible to use the router to connect to my present Internet provider?
Do I have to enter parameters to do this?

Regards,

Alan Duval

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:45:21 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:59:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
> 
>>Now type TCPCFG2 at the command prompt and enter.
>>
>>when the program loads, make sure the enable interface is clicked and
>>"automatically using DHCP" is selected. Press OK twice.
>>
>>Turn on the router, remove the diskette and then shutdown and restart 
>>the system.
>>
>>If all has gone well, you know have network functionality - try 
>>accessing a website in the browser.
>>
> 
>  Hi Ed,
> 
> I have the network card installed  and configured as you advised.
> 
> On booting the boot screen says:
> 
> "Network speed is 100 Mbps / Full_Duplex Mode"
> SURECOM EP-320X-R-100/10M PCI Adapter NDIS2 driver is installed"
> 
> Then the line:
> 
> "DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background."
> 
> Can I do anything else to test setup seeing that TPG haven't activated the broadband connection?
> Is it possible to use the router to connect to my present Internet provider?
> Do I have to enter parameters to do this?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan Duval
> 
>
What you have so far is GOOD !!

the PC appears to becorrectly configured - it's searching out on the 
ethernet cable for a DHCP server - a role that your ADSL modem / Router 
should be playing. It's very possible that it WON'T do this until it has 
a connection, so if you are plugged into the ADSL box and it's turned 
on, what you have done is all you can do until the connection is there.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:16:38 +1100
From:  Gavin Miller <gmi12896 at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Just an addendum to Ed's post.  DHCP should be enabled when you have 
your connection with TPG established.  However you will probably need to 
disable DHCP to setup the router first, otherwise there will be no 
connection to the router's ip address.  Once you've done this and setup 
the router with everything you need (including telling it to be a DHCP 
server) then go back to TCPIP config and re-enable DHCP.  If the router 
isn't set to be a DHCP server then you will always get that message 
"DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
background", and you will not have access to ethernet Internet functions 
(including the routers setup IP as mentioned above).  Apart from that, 
you're all set :-)

Cheers
G

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Alan Duval wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:59:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Now type TCPCFG2 at the command prompt and enter.
>>>
>>> when the program loads, make sure the enable interface is clicked and
>>> "automatically using DHCP" is selected. Press OK twice.
>>>
>>> Turn on the router, remove the diskette and then shutdown and 
>>> restart the system.
>>>
>>> If all has gone well, you know have network functionality - try 
>>> accessing a website in the browser.
>>>
>>
>>  Hi Ed,
>>
>> I have the network card installed  and configured as you advised.
>>
>> On booting the boot screen says:
>>
>> "Network speed is 100 Mbps / Full_Duplex Mode"
>> SURECOM EP-320X-R-100/10M PCI Adapter NDIS2 driver is installed"
>>
>> Then the line:
>>
>> "DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
>> background."
>>
>> Can I do anything else to test setup seeing that TPG haven't 
>> activated the broadband connection?
>> Is it possible to use the router to connect to my present Internet 
>> provider?
>> Do I have to enter parameters to do this?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Duval
>>
>>
> What you have so far is GOOD !!
>
> the PC appears to becorrectly configured - it's searching out on the 
> ethernet cable for a DHCP server - a role that your ADSL modem / 
> Router should be playing. It's very possible that it WON'T do this 
> until it has a connection, so if you are plugged into the ADSL box and 
> it's turned on, what you have done is all you can do until the 
> connection is there.
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:51:17 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:   Java programs

Hi All

I've just come across a java program jedit and am unable to get it to 
run/install

Previously I've run java programs using a command like "java -jar 
jedit42install.jar"

This brings up an error dialog.

Anyone got any advice

Regards
Dennis.

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:27 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval schreef:

>
>"Network speed is 100 Mbps / Full_Duplex Mode"
>SURECOM EP-320X-R-100/10M PCI Adapter NDIS2 driver is installed"
>
>  
>
Good.

>Then the line:
>
>"DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background."
>
>  
>
The router should be  powered on and attached by cable to the PC (I 
presume you don't have a wireless one).

>Can I do anything else to test setup seeing that TPG haven't activated the broadband connection?
>  
>
When broadband will be available, it will be shown somewhere in the 
setup pages ("Status" perhaps) of the router. You don't have to worry 
about that. Just see the PC and router are properly connected.  And I 
would advise you to browse a bit in the manual of the router

>Is it possible to use the router to connect to my present Internet provider?
>  
>
Only if connection were broadband too.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:04:07 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Ed Durrant schreef:

>> On booting the boot screen says:
>>
>> "Network speed is 100 Mbps / Full_Duplex Mode"
>> SURECOM EP-320X-R-100/10M PCI Adapter NDIS2 driver is installed"
>>
>> Then the line:
>>
>> "DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
>> background."
>>
>>
>>
> What you have so far is GOOD !!
>
Indeed.

> the PC appears to becorrectly configured - it's searching out on the 
> ethernet cable for a DHCP server - a role that your ADSL modem / 
> Router should be playing.

No! Please, the DHCP server is has to look for is the router!

When router and PC properly are connected, the the DHCP server at the PC 
should find the DHCP server at the router and, by in a browser typing in 
the router's IP address, Alan should land in the router's web page. At 
this stage there is no need for a broadband connection at all.

Bottom line: what Alan must do NOW is to connect router and PC properly. 
Probable it's just a matter of powering on the router. And attaching 
both devices by cable of course.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:09:33 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Gavin Miller schreef:

>   However you will probably need to disable DHCP to setup the router 
> first,

Good heavens!!!! No, not at all.

Please guys!!!

I have told it already earlier: when you have to deal with a newbee, 
keep it simple and clear:

stage one is:

- DHCP at the PC
- which should enable connection to the router.

Nothing less, nothing more.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:12:03 +1100
From:  Dennis Nolan <dennik at swiftdsl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Java programs Update

Seems my problem is trying to use 1.18 instead of 1.3 or later.

Now I have 1.42, so what would happen if I got rid of all the 1.18 
references in my config sys.

Or can 1.42 completely replace 1.18

Regards

Dennis.

Dennis Nolan wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I've just come across a java program jedit and am unable to get it to 
> run/install
>
> Previously I've run java programs using a command like "java -jar 
> jedit42install.jar"
>
> This brings up an error dialog.
>
> Anyone got any advice
>
> Regards
> Dennis.
>
 
>
> 

>
>
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:29:52 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Java programs

Hi Dennis

Dennis Nolan wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I've just come across a java program jedit and am unable to get it to 
> run/install
> 
> Previously I've run java programs using a command like "java -jar 
> jedit42install.jar"
> 
> This brings up an error dialog.
> 
> Anyone got any advice

Yea, I have but you won't like it.  I hate java.  The sooner it dies the 
better.  I reckon java set back computing 10 years ;-)

Cheers
Kev
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:44:11 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Hi Alan

I've been away for a couple of days, so I'm just catching up with what's 
happened.

On page 9 of the booklet that came with my Billion it's headed 
"Configuring Your ADSL Firewall Router".  Find that page and do the 
things it says.  This part of the setup is OS independent, so it'll be 
same for you as a Windoze user.  Like Ed said, below, DHCP may not work 
until you have ADSL connected, but I think the router will still issue 
you with an IP.  At least this way you can prove your router and 
ethernet connection.  You should be able to get to the IP specified and 
fiddle around inside the router setup.  I would suggest that you not 
change any settings that you don't know about - there were plenty in 
that category for me.  If it does all go wrong, check the book, coz 
there is a reset switch on the router.

Bear in mind that you can connect another 3 computers to this router and 
they too will have ADSL connection.

Are we having fun yet?

Kev

Ed Durrant wrote:
> Alan Duval wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:59:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Now type TCPCFG2 at the command prompt and enter.
>>>
>>> when the program loads, make sure the enable interface is clicked and
>>> "automatically using DHCP" is selected. Press OK twice.
>>>
>>> Turn on the router, remove the diskette and then shutdown and restart 
>>> the system.
>>>
>>> If all has gone well, you know have network functionality - try 
>>> accessing a website in the browser.
>>>
>>
>>  Hi Ed,
>>
>> I have the network card installed  and configured as you advised.
>>
>> On booting the boot screen says:
>>
>> "Network speed is 100 Mbps / Full_Duplex Mode"
>> SURECOM EP-320X-R-100/10M PCI Adapter NDIS2 driver is installed"
>>
>> Then the line:
>>
>> "DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
>> background."
>>
>> Can I do anything else to test setup seeing that TPG haven't activated 
>> the broadband connection?
>> Is it possible to use the router to connect to my present Internet 
>> provider?
>> Do I have to enter parameters to do this?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Duval
>>
>>
> What you have so far is GOOD !!
> 
> the PC appears to becorrectly configured - it's searching out on the 
> ethernet cable for a DHCP server - a role that your ADSL modem / Router 
> should be playing. It's very possible that it WON'T do this until it has 
> a connection, so if you are plugged into the ADSL box and it's turned 
> on, what you have done is all you can do until the connection is there.
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.
 
> 
> 

> 
> 
> 
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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:46:35 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Hi Alan

Kris is correct here.

Kev

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

> 
> I have told it already earlier: when you have to deal with a newbee, 
> keep it simple and clear:
> 
> 
> stage one is:
> 
> - DHCP at the PC
> - which should enable connection to the router.
> 
> Nothing less, nothing more.
> 
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**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:49:40 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Hi again Alan

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>>> On booting the boot screen says:
>>>
>>> "Network speed is 100 Mbps / Full_Duplex Mode"
>>> SURECOM EP-320X-R-100/10M PCI Adapter NDIS2 driver is installed"
>>>
>>> Then the line:
>>>
>>> "DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in 
>>> background."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> What you have so far is GOOD !!

Correct!!  This is all good.

> No! Please, the DHCP server is has to look for is the router!
> 
> When router and PC properly are connected, the the DHCP server at the PC 
> should find the DHCP server at the router and, by in a browser typing in 
> the router's IP address, Alan should land in the router's web page. At 
> this stage there is no need for a broadband connection at all.
> 
> Bottom line: what Alan must do NOW is to connect router and PC properly. 
> Probable it's just a matter of powering on the router. And attaching 
> both devices by cable of course.

Yes, I believe this is correct.  After I finish this I'll disconnect my 
ADSL line, reboot and see what happens.

Kev

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Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:00:25 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

> The router should be  powered on and attached by cable to the PC (I 
> presume you don't have a wireless one).
> 
>> Can I do anything else to test setup seeing that TPG haven't activated 
>> the broadband connection?
>>  
>>
> When broadband will be available, it will be shown somewhere in the 
> setup pages ("Status" perhaps) of the router. You don't have to worry 
> about that. Just see the PC and router are properly connected.  And I 
> would advise you to browse a bit in the manual of the router
> 
>> Is it possible to use the router to connect to my present Internet 
>> provider?
>>  
>>
> Only if connection were broadband too.

All correct.

However, there will be a further step when TPG email you to let you know 
that your ADSL is connected.  Tey'll give you your username/password, 
both of which will have to entered into the relevant spaces in the 
router setup so that the router can connect to TPG.  Use the wizard 
setup and it's self explanitary.

But Kris is right, that you should be able to talk to your router 
without any ADSL connected.

We must be having by now??

Kev

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**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:04:48 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan

Kris Steenhaut wrote:
> 
> 
> Alan Duval schreef:
> 
>> Thanks Ed. I should have no trouble following your very clear 
>> instructions.
>>
>> Unfortunately it's going to be some time before I can get Broadband as 
>> I received an Email from TPG stating
>>  
>>
> No, on the contrary, consider it as a bit of luck. Now you have ample of 
> time to prepare and set up your router (userid - password) and  dhcp 
> (connection PC <--> router thus).

Almost correct.  I assume TPG will be the same there as here in Perth. 
They'll issue you a password, which you'll be instructed to change. 
Also, the username will look a little different from your expectation.
> 
> Once that has been set, you'll only have to  push the jack into it's hole.

Apart from the above, this will be all you'll have left to do on that day.

Kev
> 
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**= Email   17 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:19:06 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Java programs Update

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:12:03 +1100, Dennis Nolan wrote:

>
>
>Now I have 1.42, so what would happen if I got rid of all the 1.18 
>references in my config sys.
>
>Or can 1.42 completely replace 1.18

Hi Dennis.

I have been working with Steve Levine to get a Java app going - to connect a
Palm to Sundial Relish.

During the long time of trying, I cleaned up my Java:
a) Java11 just wasn't doing anything  
b) Java118 was almost entirely superceded by 13 or 131
c) Java142 has some things that 131 doesn't and *vice versa*

Therefore I am of the opinion that you only need ONE EACH of Java 131 and
Java142. I had multiples because of repeated installs.

The latest versions are available to registered users from the eCS USA
download site, plus the Innotek site for Java142.

One caution I would offer to all re 131: if you have an application that
needs serial communications take care to get BOT the javacomms13 and the
javacomms131  zip files and keep them both available. The app will specify
whether it is version specific, and which version to use.

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
___________________

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Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:40:36 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kev schreef:

> Router". Find that page and do the things it says. This part of the 
> setup is OS independent, so it'll be same for you as a Windoze user. 
> Like Ed said, below, DHCP may not work until you have ADSL connected,

Where do you guys have heard that ?????????????????????????? Damn !!!!!!

>
> Bear in mind that you can connect another 3 computers to this router 
> and they too will have ADSL connection.
>
Bear in mind the basics of education are to keep it simple and 
absolutely for 100 % right if you are dealing with beginners. And in the 
end, the same applies when you are dealing with knowledgeables.

So we better let start him with just one computer. And can I urge you 
guys to avoid the spread of incorrect information?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   19 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:43:35 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kev schreef:

>
> Yes, I believe this is correct. After I finish this I'll disconnect my 
> ADSL line, reboot and see what happens.
>
Do allow me to make the remark: you even should think you have to do so. 
Coz, if you were, you should never be able to make any connection at all.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   20 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:51:45 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Kev schreef:

> most correct. I assume TPG will be the same there as here in Perth. 
> They'll issue you a password, which you'll be instructed to change. 
> Also, the username will look a little different from your expectation.
>
>>
It might be case sensitive. And that's the only hurdle there could be 
once connection PC <--> router had been set.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   21 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:55:51 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Java programs Update

Dennis Nolan schreef:

> Seems my problem is trying to use 1.18 instead of 1.3 or later.
>
> Now I have 1.42, so what would happen if I got rid of all the 1.18 
> references in my config sys.
>
You'll be rid of a superfluous  directory tree.

> Or can 1.42 completely replace 1.18

Of course.

Programs not able to work with 1.41 and later just are bad programs.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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