Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1046
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:01:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Thursday 10 February 2005
 Number  1046
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Subjects for today
 
1   I finally have sound : Bruce Rossi" <brossi at melbpc dot org dot au>
2  Re:  Network cards : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
3   Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
4  Re:  Satellite 2-way setup was ADSL setup : Michael Peters" <mpeters at austarnet dot com dot au>
5  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
6  Re:  Satellite 2-way setup was ADSL setup : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
7  Re:  Network cards : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
8  Re:  I'm in real strife now! : Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
9  Re:  [Humour]  Satellite 2-way setup was ADSL setup : John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
10  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
11  Re:  Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>

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Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:07:55 +1100
From:  "Bruce Rossi" <brossi at melbpc dot org dot au>
Subject:   I finally have sound

Hi people,
I've not had sound since I got a new motherboard with an onboard Realtek AC97 
ALC101 chip. UniAud would not recognise it.

On a whim, I asked the local computer shop bloke for a cheap sound card. He gave 
me an Audio Excel 6-channel PCI card with SB16 compatibility, paid him the AUD25 
and headed home with low expectations.

At first it did not work. Installed the latest UniAud and added two extra options on 
uniaud16.sys (/V /C /M /L). And there it was!

Turns out its a CMedia 8738 AV512 which is listed in the UniAud-supported cards.

Cheers,

Bruce Rossi
Data To Documents
brucerSAFE at URLmelbpc dot org dot au (please remove capitals to reply)

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Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:30:27 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Network cards

Kris Steenhaut said:
> Voytek Eymont schreef:
>>>Alan Duval wrote:
>>>>Do all network cards need drivers?
>>no.
>>only need driver if you want to send any data through the card,
>>otherwise, no need

this was followed by: ';>)'

> To mock with people in despair isn't very courteous, wouldn't you say so
> too?

absolutely. most likely even rude.

as it was, Alan didn't seem in despair, he appered to be researching a
future aquisition;
as it was, my 'mock' reply inluded a smiley

Alan, if indeed I offeneded you in your hour of need, my sincere
appologies go to you.

-- 
Voytek
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Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:33:29 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   Ethernet adapters

Hi,

Just received my Billion BIPAC 5100 ADSL Router and Surecom 10/100M Ethernet PCI Adapter.
Having never had anything to do with LAN's, Networks and just a single computer, I am really battling to 
understand how to set these up so please excuse any dumb questions.

The Surecom Ethernet PCI adapter comes with a floppy disk containing drivers for os/2 but I find the readme's 
difficult to understand.

In the installation guide for NDIS2 driver, it says:
1.	Make sure that the adapter is properly installed and configured. (how does one configure it??)
2.	Make sure your Microsoft LAN Manager is properly installed. (No instructions for this)
3.	Run the appropriate Microsoft Lan Manager SETUP for computer you are setting up. (DOS, OS/2 or 
	OS/2 Server). Select "Configuration" item, and insert the SURECOM EP-320X-R driver disk, specify 
	path a:\, and select the EP-320X-R driver and follow directions
4.	When completed, reboot your computer.

Further on there's instructions for:

a.	Installing driver procedure on OS/2 LAN Server 2.0/3.0
b.	Installing driver procedure on OS/2 LAN Server 4.0

The CD contains the following relevant directories and files:

MSLANMAN.OS2: --- DRIVERS: --- ETHERNET: --- EP320XR
                                                  :     NIF: --- EP320XR

NDIS2 :---------	EP320R.DOS
		EP320R.OS2
		EP320XR.NIF
		PROTOCOL.INF
		README.TXT  (Quoted above)

Could someone advise what to do?

Thanks,

Alan Duval

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Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:56:20 +1100
From:  "Michael Peters" <mpeters at austarnet dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Satellite 2-way setup was ADSL setup

Dear Ed,
     Thanks for that link. I was unaware of it and it has the
equipment specs. Quite good. However, I am stubbing my
toe over the $900 for the DW-4020 router. I think I will
install the Nat32 software and wait until something
happens about the DW-6000 ( the new combined modem
and router) through Telstra.
    2 way satellite sounds exciting, and it is for us, but it's
nowhere near as good as cable :-(  .

  Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
To: <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:03 PM
Subject: Re:  ADSL setup

> >Hi Mike,
>
>     Searching on DW4020 I found this text on the website at:
>
> http://www.dwge dot com/products/dw4020/
>
> The DW4020 terminal is a self-hosted, stand-alone unit that provides an
> integrated broadband LAN solution to Windows, UNIX, Linux, MAC, and
> other platforms running IP over Ethernet.
>
> Key features include:
>
>      * Ethernet-based
>      * Operating System (OS) independent
>      * Scalable
>      * Self-hosted
>      * Stand-alone terminal
>
>
> So it certainly should work with OS/2 without problems but $900 is a bit
> steep !
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
>  

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Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:59:00 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just received my Billion BIPAC 5100 ADSL Router and Surecom 10/100M Ethernet PCI Adapter.
> Having never had anything to do with LAN's, Networks and just a single computer, I am really battling to 
> understand how to set these up so please excuse any dumb questions.
> 
> The Surecom Ethernet PCI adapter comes with a floppy disk containing drivers for os/2 but I find the readme's 
> difficult to understand.
> 
> In the installation guide for NDIS2 driver, it says:
> 1.	Make sure that the adapter is properly installed and configured. (how does one configure it??)
> 2.	Make sure your Microsoft LAN Manager is properly installed. (No instructions for this)
> 3.	Run the appropriate Microsoft Lan Manager SETUP for computer you are setting up. (DOS, OS/2 or 
> 	OS/2 Server). Select "Configuration" item, and insert the SURECOM EP-320X-R driver disk, specify 
> 	path a:\, and select the EP-320X-R driver and follow directions
> 4.	When completed, reboot your computer.
> 
> Further on there's instructions for:
> 
> a.	Installing driver procedure on OS/2 LAN Server 2.0/3.0
> b.	Installing driver procedure on OS/2 LAN Server 4.0
> 
> The CD contains the following relevant directories and files:
> 
> MSLANMAN.OS2: --- DRIVERS: --- ETHERNET: --- EP320XR
>                                                   :     NIF: --- EP320XR
> 
> NDIS2 :---------	EP320R.DOS
> 		EP320R.OS2
> 		EP320XR.NIF
> 		PROTOCOL.INF
> 		README.TXT  (Quoted above)
> 
> Could someone advise what to do?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alan Duval
> 

OK, step one - ignore those instructions.

Shut down and open PC.

Remove blanking plate.

Install card in empty PCI slot - make sure it seats fully into the slot 
and screw it in.

Replace computer sides, power and other cables.

Plus in ethernet cable to router.

Restart system.

Got to command prompt and type:

MPTS  (enter)

The card and protocol, MPTS config program will load.

Press OK and then Install. By default the system will look for the new 
driver to add in the root drive of A: (this needs to be the directory 
where EP320R.OS2 file is - change the entry in the box on the screen to 
suit).

Press OK - hopfully the program will say it's found the new driver and 
display it's name (make a note of this name). Press OK to continue. 
Press Configure (possibly twice) which then loads the actual 
configuration stage.

In the "Network Adapters" box scroll down and highlight the name of the 
card you just "installed" from the diskette and press ADD.

In the protocols box select and press add for the protocols you need to 
use. For now just put in TCPIP.

Press OK, Close, Exit to finish the update, when asked whether update 
config.sys, check the update config.sys option is ticked and press EXIT 
and then OK and EXIT again.

Now type TCPCFG2 at the command prompt and enter.

when the program loads, make sure the enable interface is clicked and
"automatically using DHCP" is selected. Press OK twice.

Turn on the router, remove the diskette and then shutdown and restart 
the system.

If all has gone well, you know have network functionality - try 
accessing a website in the browser.

Cheers/2

ED.

PS:  The instructions above are for OS/2 Warp 4 - eCS screens may be a 
little different however the principal (and method behind the programs) 
is exactly the same.
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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:02:36 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Satellite 2-way setup was ADSL setup

Hi Mike,

   Since you know Telstra intend changing to the DW-6000 (or I think 
that's what you said), you could try constantly calling up and 
complaining about the DW-4020 as soon as it's installed, demanding 
something better. If they have the DW-6000's they may install it just to 
"shut you up".  Worth a try .....

Cheers/2

Ed.

Michael Peters wrote:
  Dear Ed,
>      Thanks for that link. I was unaware of it and it has the
> equipment specs. Quite good. However, I am stubbing my
> toe over the $900 for the DW-4020 router. I think I will
> install the Nat32 software and wait until something
> happens about the DW-6000 ( the new combined modem
> and router) through Telstra.
>     2 way satellite sounds exciting, and it is for us, but it's
> nowhere near as good as cable :-(  .
> 
>   Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Durrant" <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
> To: <os2genau at os2 dot org dot au>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re:  ADSL setup
> 
> 
> 
>>>Hi Mike,
>>
>>    Searching on DW4020 I found this text on the website at:
>>
>>http://www.dwge dot com/products/dw4020/
>>
>>The DW4020 terminal is a self-hosted, stand-alone unit that provides an
>>integrated broadband LAN solution to Windows, UNIX, Linux, MAC, and
>>other platforms running IP over Ethernet.
>>
>>Key features include:
>>
>>     * Ethernet-based
>>     * Operating System (OS) independent
>>     * Scalable
>>     * Self-hosted
>>     * Stand-alone terminal
>>
>>
>>So it certainly should work with OS/2 without problems but $900 is a bit
>>steep !
>>
>>Cheers/2
>>
>>Ed.
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:07:40 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Network cards

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:30:27 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:

>
>Kris Steenhaut said:
>> Voytek Eymont schreef:
>>>>Alan Duval wrote:
>>>>>Do all network cards need drivers?
>>>no.
>>>only need driver if you want to send any data through the card,
>>>otherwise, no need
>
>this was followed by: ';>)'
>
>> To mock with people in despair isn't very courteous, wouldn't you say so
>> too?
>
>absolutely. most likely even rude.
>
>as it was, Alan didn't seem in despair, he appered to be researching a
>future aquisition;
>as it was, my 'mock' reply inluded a smiley
>
>Alan, if indeed I offended you in your hour of need, my sincere
>appologies go to you.
>
>-- 
>Voytek

No! I wasn't offended and I do appreciate the help people give. At age 70, I struggle at times to understand 
some technical things and I mainly use my computer for office work.

May God bless you all,

Alan Duval 

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Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:06:46 -0500
From:  Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
Subject:  Re:  I'm in real strife now!

Given what you've just said, Kev,
I think anything else I guestimated might contribute
to a suppository ( rather than a repository )

Regards,
Chris.

----------- most particularly, Kev replied ----------------

This is not necessarily a valid conclusion to draw.  The fact is I have 
no idea at all what part of the Ubuntu install made OS/2 fail to boot. 
The really crazy thing is that I couldn't even boot OS/2 from a CD or 
floppy, and bear in mind that none of my OS/2 boot oartitions are JFS. 
The Ubuntu install didn't in any way "corrupt" any of my HPFS, FAT32, 
FAT16, NTFS, or JFS partitions - it simply set something so that OS/2 
wouldn't boot.  When I simply unplugged the the physical drive (primary 
slave) with Linux on it, eCS booted with no problems or errors.  Also, I 
have had many distros of Linux on that drive, and this is the first time 
I've encountered this problem.

--------------- to my last guestimate ---------------
 
Hi Chris

Chris_neeson wrote:
> Thanks Voytek.

> * Linux can read OS2 JFS
>   ( well, at least one combination of Linux version
>     and JFS-version software can do it )

There is a parameter you can add to the "FORMAT ... " command to make 
the 2 compatible, however I've forgotten what it is.

> * eCS can't read ( can't even boot ) with at least
>   one version of the Linux JFS filesystem implemented.

This is not necessarily a valid conclusion to draw.  The fact is I have 
no idea at all what part of the Ubuntu install made OS/2 fail to boot. 
The really crazy thing is that I couldn't even boot OS/2 from a CD or 
floppy, and bear in mind that none of my OS/2 boot oartitions are JFS. 
The Ubuntu install didn't in any way "corrupt" any of my HPFS, FAT32, 
FAT16, NTFS, or JFS partitions - it simply set something so that OS/2 
wouldn't boot.  When I simply unplugged the the physical drive (primary 
slave) with Linux on it, eCS booted with no problems or errors.  Also, I 
have had many distros of Linux on that drive, and this is the first time 
I've encountered this problem.

Yesterday I bought a couple of HDD caddies ($17.60 each) so that I can 
easilly remove/swap drives while I experiment.

Cheers
Kev
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:39:19 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "John Angelico" <talldad at kepl dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  [Humour]  Satellite 2-way setup was ADSL setup

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:02:36 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>Hi Mike,
>
>   Since you know Telstra intend changing to the DW-6000 (or I think 
>that's what you said), you could try constantly calling up and 
>complaining about the DW-4020 as soon as it's installed, demanding 
>something better. If they have the DW-6000's they may install it just to 
>"shut you up".  Worth a try .....

Hi Michael and Ed.

Noting the season, I have dubbed this method "technological Chinese water
torture" <VBG>

Kung Hei Fat Choi everybody!

Best regards
John Angelico
OS/2 SIG
os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or 
talldad at kepl dot com dot au
___________________

PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico
.... He who laughs last uses OS/2.
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Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:42:37 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:59:00 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote:

>OK, step one - ignore those instructions.
>
>Shut down and open PC.
>
>Remove blanking plate.
>
>Install card in empty PCI slot - make sure it seats fully into the slot 
>and screw it in.
>
>Replace computer sides, power and other cables.
>
>Plus in ethernet cable to router.
>
>Restart system.
>
>Got to command prompt and type:
>
>MPTS  (enter)
>
>The card and protocol, MPTS config program will load.
>
>Press OK and then Install. By default the system will look for the new 
>driver to add in the root drive of A: (this needs to be the directory 
>where EP320R.OS2 file is - change the entry in the box on the screen to 
>suit).
>
>Press OK - hopfully the program will say it's found the new driver and 
>display it's name (make a note of this name). Press OK to continue. 
>Press Configure (possibly twice) which then loads the actual 
>configuration stage.
>
>In the "Network Adapters" box scroll down and highlight the name of the 
>card you just "installed" from the diskette and press ADD.
>
>In the protocols box select and press add for the protocols you need to 
>use. For now just put in TCPIP.
>
>Press OK, Close, Exit to finish the update, when asked whether update 
>config.sys, check the update config.sys option is ticked and press EXIT 
>and then OK and EXIT again.
>
>Now type TCPCFG2 at the command prompt and enter.
>
>when the program loads, make sure the enable interface is clicked and
>"automatically using DHCP" is selected. Press OK twice.
>
>Turn on the router, remove the diskette and then shutdown and restart 
>the system.
>
>If all has gone well, you know have network functionality - try 
>accessing a website in the browser.
>
>Cheers/2
>
>ED.
>
>PS:  The instructions above are for OS/2 Warp 4 - eCS screens may be a 
>little different however the principal (and method behind the programs) 
>is exactly the same.

Thanks Ed. I should have no trouble following your very clear instructions.

Unfortunately it's going to be some time before I can get Broadband as I received an Email from TPG stating 

........ "Unfortunately, we are currently unable to activate the ADSL connection on
your number as we have been advised by Telstra that there are no available
ADSL ports at your local exchange."

They say it may take 2 - 12 weeks before I can be connected. Anyhow at least i'll have everything ready to 
go when  the ports become available.

Alan 

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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:49:42 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Ethernet adapters

Alan Duval schreef:

>Thanks Ed. I should have no trouble following your very clear instructions.
>
>Unfortunately it's going to be some time before I can get Broadband as I received an Email from TPG stating 
>
>  
>
No, on the contrary, consider it as a bit of luck. Now you have ample of 
time to prepare and set up your router (userid - password) and  dhcp 
(connection PC <--> router thus).

Once that has been set, you'll only have to  push the jack into it's hole.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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