Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1045
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:01:08 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Wednesday 09 February 2005
 Number  1045
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  ADSL setup : Bruce <os2box at niclan.homeip dot net>
2  Re:  I'm in real strife now! : Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
3  Re:  Interesting note from [VOICENWS] list : Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
4  Re:  I'm in real strife now! : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
5   Network cards : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
6  Re:  Network cards : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
7  Re:  Network cards : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
8  Re:  Network cards : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
9   Writing DVD's : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
10  Re:  Writing DVD's : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
11  Re:  Writing DVD's : Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
12  Re:  Writing DVD's : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
13  Re:  Network cards : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
14  Re:  I'm in real strife now! : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
15  Re:  I'm in real strife now! : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
16  Re:  Network cards : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
17  Re:  Network cards : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
18  Re:  I'm in real strife now! : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>

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Date:  Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:52:55 +0800
From:  Bruce <os2box at niclan.homeip dot net>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

I agree. FWIW, I use a Billion 5100w has four ethernet ports and 
although no firewall built in, it does a splendid job. I have the DMZ to 
pass _all_ to the WSEB box ..  BTW, I have 9 computers [via a 8 port 
HUB] on a small home WAN..

Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
> Ed Durrant schreef:
>
>> alternatively change to a contract where you supply your own modem 
>> and then go and buy a second hand ethernet connectable one off eBAY.
>>
> Why not just spend a few pennies more for a router-adsl device? 
> Believe me, all other solutions are counter productive.
>
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Date:  Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:12:39 -0500
From:  Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
Subject:  Re:  I'm in real strife now!

Thanks Voytek.

I thought somebody else reported that Linux
corrupted ( eliminated? ) their OS2 JFS?

Anyway, the implication of what you're saying,
and Ke'v experience is that

* Linux can read OS2 JFS
  ( well, at least one combination of Linux version
    and JFS-version software can do it )

* eCS can't read ( can't even boot ) with at least
  one version of the Linux JFS filesystem implemented.

mmmmm

Regards
Chris.

------------ Voytek replied ---------------------

it's probably irrelevant to the current problem, but:

when I installed RH on an OS/2 system with JFS, and, told Linux to 'use
all existing Linux partition' (or whatever that options is called), Linux
wiped out my OS/2 JFS volume, I guess it considered JFS a Linux
partition....

I wasn't , how to say it, very thrilled at that time

after I was resuscitated I luckily recalled that the 3 GB of OS/2 JFS data
originally came from my TP770 hd, and, was only xcopied maybe few weeks
ago
(and, luckilly, I've then finally removed the TP770 HD)

anyhow, so, in my ltd xprce, Linux install can wipe out OS/2 JFS for those
who do not read prompts.....

but, when I installed Linux on my old OS/2 server, Linux appeared to be
able to access OS/2 JFS volume OK.

Chris_neeson said:
> Kev disconnected his Luinux disk, trying to get OS2
> working after installing Linux with JFS
>
> I think it's possible that OS2 is detecting that the
> filesystem on the Linux drive is JFS, but not that
> it's a Linux JFS ( someone else on this list recently
> reported that Linux JFS & OS/2 JFS were different
> creatures.

-- 
Voytek
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Date:  Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:47:13 -0500
From:  Chris_neeson <Chris_Neeson at compuserve dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Interesting note from [VOICENWS] list

Mike replied with a slight correction.

Thanks, Mike

And memory leakage has been a constant 'feature' of MS
Operating 'systems'.

Regards
Chris.

-------- Mike replied -----------

Hi Chris,

[Actually from OS/2 V2.10 ;-) ] WINOS2 ran any WIN3.1x application much 
more stably than WIN3.1x, and I never saw the memory leakage that native 
WIN 3.10/WFWG 3.11 suffered from so badly! :-)

-- 
Regards,
Mike
 
Chris_neeson wrote:

>OS/2 had security  features Win 3.x & 95 couldn't even dream of,
>a solid OS design, genuine multitasking, a genuine 32bit growth path, 
>and by v2.2 the ability to emulate Win 3.x.
>  
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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:12:31 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  I'm in real strife now!

Hi Chris

Chris_neeson wrote:
> Thanks Voytek.

> * Linux can read OS2 JFS
>   ( well, at least one combination of Linux version
>     and JFS-version software can do it )

There is a parameter you can add to the "FORMAT ... " command to make 
the 2 compatible, however I've forgotten what it is.

> * eCS can't read ( can't even boot ) with at least
>   one version of the Linux JFS filesystem implemented.

This is not necessarily a valid conclusion to draw.  The fact is I have 
no idea at all what part of the Ubuntu install made OS/2 fail to boot. 
The really crazy thing is that I couldn't even boot OS/2 from a CD or 
floppy, and bear in mind that none of my OS/2 boot oartitions are JFS. 
The Ubuntu install didn't in any way "corrupt" any of my HPFS, FAT32, 
FAT16, NTFS, or JFS partitions - it simply set something so that OS/2 
wouldn't boot.  When I simply unplugged the the physical drive (primary 
slave) with Linux on it, eCS booted with no problems or errors.  Also, I 
have had many distros of Linux on that drive, and this is the first time 
I've encountered this problem.

Yesterday I bought a couple of HDD caddies ($17.60 each) so that I can 
easilly remove/swap drives while I experiment.

Cheers
Kev

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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:28:40 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   Network cards

Hi,

Do all network cards need drivers?
If so, what network card has a driver for eCS?

Regards

Alan Duval

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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:09:45 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Network cards

Hi Alan

Alan Duval wrote:

> Do all network cards need drivers?

yes

> If so, what network card has a driver for eCS?

Many, but anything based on the Realtek 8139 chip (RTL8139 I think it 
is) will work-a-treat, straight out of the box.  Don't pay for brand 
names.  I get some skinny little brandless ones for $10.00 each and 
haven't had a failure in the 4 years of using them.  They auto-configure 
correctly in any OS and will run at the full speed which your network 
can cope with.

Have fun
Kev
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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:11:53 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Network cards

Hi Alan

Yes they do need a driver. The best place to look for drivers is Chuck 
McKinnis' web site. This link is via the OS/2 hardware list 
http://www.os2warp.be/index2.php?name=nicpak

regards
Ken

Alan Duval wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Do all network cards need drivers?
>If so, what network card has a driver for eCS?
>
>Regards
>
>Alan Duval
>

> 

>
>  
>
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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:14:05 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Network cards

Kev wrote:
> and will run at the full speed which your network 
> can cope with.

Actually I'd better qualify that.  They're 10/100 cards, but I've had 
difficulty in the past getting other cards to run at 100, where-as these 
run full speed.

Kev
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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:30:17 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:   Writing DVD's

Hi all

Not sure now whether it was in this group or not, somebody was talking 
about writing DVD's with OS/2. I have developed a simply process I find 
works well.

I use Chris Wohlmemuth's CD creator and modify the mkisof's options to 
include the parameter -split-output so that the output is multiple 
files, when joined together they make the iso. I find using CD creator I 
can check the size of the iso easily and it simple to drag and drop the 
directories I want written to DVD. This is only a data DVD.

I then use a bat file to run dvddao to burn the iso to DVD. All my batch 
file contains is
dvddao -s 2 -d 0,1,0 -b 8 j:\cds\image.raw_00 j:\cds\image.raw_01 
j:\cds\image.raw_02 j:\cds\image.raw_03 j:\cds\image.raw_04

This works well for me and I don't have to be concerned with all the 
parameters for mkisofs or bother calculating the size of the resulting DVD.

regards
Ken

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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:45:26 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Writing DVD's

Ken Laurie wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Not sure now whether it was in this group or not, somebody was talking 
> about writing DVD's with OS/2. I have developed a simply process I find 
> works well.
> 
> I use Chris Wohlmemuth's CD creator and modify the mkisof's options to 
> include the parameter -split-output so that the output is multiple 
> files, when joined together they make the iso. I find using CD creator I 
> can check the size of the iso easily and it simple to drag and drop the 
> directories I want written to DVD. This is only a data DVD.
> 
> I then use a bat file to run dvddao to burn the iso to DVD. All my batch 
> file contains is
> dvddao -s 2 -d 0,1,0 -b 8 j:\cds\image.raw_00 j:\cds\image.raw_01 
> j:\cds\image.raw_02 j:\cds\image.raw_03 j:\cds\image.raw_04
> 
> This works well for me and I don't have to be concerned with all the 
> parameters for mkisofs or bother calculating the size of the resulting DVD.
> 
> regards
> Ken
> 
Hi Ken,

   Thats how I used to do it until I realised MKISOFS can create full 
size 4.7GB DVD images straight off. The only condition is that you need 
to be running this on a partition with a filesystem that can support 
files > 2GB in size - e.g. JFS.

here are some command files (note mkisofs wraps to the next line in this 
email but not in the cmd file)

- first of all to create the file:

I:
CD\
IF EXIST ED-DATA.ISO THEN ERASE ED-DATA.ISO
F:
cd\os2util\cdrecord\cdrtools
mkisofs2.exe -l -o I:\ED-DVD.ISO -v -log-file i:\burn.log 
I:\ED-DVD-IMAGE
I:
PAUSE
:EINDE

and now to write the data DVD:

IF NOT EXIST I:\ED-dvd.iso GOTO NOPARAM
f:
cd\os2util\cdrecord\dvddao
dvddao.exe -d 0,1,0 --priority 3,31 -v 3 I:\ed-dvd.iso
I:
PAUSE
GOTO EINDE
:NOPARAM
echo Required ISO file missing !!  Have you run MAKEdataDVD Yet ??
PAUSE
:EINDE

And to make a video-DVD image (the data to be written is in the correct 
directory structure under i:\ED-VIDEO-IMAGE

I:
CD\
IF EXIST ED-VIDEO.ISO THEN ERASE ED-VIDEO.ISO
F:
cd\os2util\cdrecord\cdrtools
mkisofs2.exe -dvd-video -o I:\ED-VIDEO.ISO -v -log-file i:\burn.log 
I:\ED-VIDEO-IMAGE
I:
PAUSE
:EINDE

And to write it:

IF NOT EXIST I:\ED-Video.iso GOTO NOPARAM
f:
cd\os2util\cdrecord\dvddao
dvddao.exe -d 0,1,0 --priority 3,31 -v 3 I:\ed-video.iso
I:
PAUSE
GOTO EINDE
:NOPARAM
echo Required ISO file missing !!  Have you run MAKEVIDEODVD Yet ??
PAUSE
:EINDE

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:04:32 +1100
From:  Ken Laurie <ken.laurie at graeleah dot com>
Subject:  Re:  Writing DVD's

Hi Ed

Thanks. The mkisofs that came with CD creator or least the one I have 
seems to not be able to create large files.

I will try using your code.

regards
Ken

Ed Durrant wrote:

> Ken Laurie wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Not sure now whether it was in this group or not, somebody was 
>> talking about writing DVD's with OS/2. I have developed a simply 
>> process I find works well.
>>
>> I use Chris Wohlmemuth's CD creator and modify the mkisof's options 
>> to include the parameter -split-output so that the output is multiple 
>> files, when joined together they make the iso. I find using CD 
>> creator I can check the size of the iso easily and it simple to drag 
>> and drop the directories I want written to DVD. This is only a data DVD.
>>
>> I then use a bat file to run dvddao to burn the iso to DVD. All my 
>> batch file contains is
>> dvddao -s 2 -d 0,1,0 -b 8 j:\cds\image.raw_00 j:\cds\image.raw_01 
>> j:\cds\image.raw_02 j:\cds\image.raw_03 j:\cds\image.raw_04
>>
>> This works well for me and I don't have to be concerned with all the 
>> parameters for mkisofs or bother calculating the size of the 
>> resulting DVD.
>>
>> regards
>> Ken
>>
> Hi Ken,
>
>   Thats how I used to do it until I realised MKISOFS can create full 
> size 4.7GB DVD images straight off. The only condition is that you 
> need to be running this on a partition with a filesystem that can 
> support files > 2GB in size - e.g. JFS.
>
> here are some command files (note mkisofs wraps to the next line in 
> this email but not in the cmd file)
>
> - first of all to create the file:
>
> I:
> CD\
> IF EXIST ED-DATA.ISO THEN ERASE ED-DATA.ISO
> F:
> cd\os2util\cdrecord\cdrtools
> mkisofs2.exe -l -o I:\ED-DVD.ISO -v -log-file i:\burn.log I:\ED-DVD-IMAGE
> I:
> PAUSE
> :EINDE
>
> and now to write the data DVD:
>
> IF NOT EXIST I:\ED-dvd.iso GOTO NOPARAM
> f:
> cd\os2util\cdrecord\dvddao
> dvddao.exe -d 0,1,0 --priority 3,31 -v 3 I:\ed-dvd.iso
> I:
> PAUSE
> GOTO EINDE
> :NOPARAM
> echo Required ISO file missing !!  Have you run MAKEdataDVD Yet ??
> PAUSE
> :EINDE
>
> And to make a video-DVD image (the data to be written is in the 
> correct directory structure under i:\ED-VIDEO-IMAGE
>
> I:
> CD\
> IF EXIST ED-VIDEO.ISO THEN ERASE ED-VIDEO.ISO
> F:
> cd\os2util\cdrecord\cdrtools
> mkisofs2.exe -dvd-video -o I:\ED-VIDEO.ISO -v -log-file i:\burn.log 
> I:\ED-VIDEO-IMAGE
> I:
> PAUSE
> :EINDE
>
> And to write it:
>
> IF NOT EXIST I:\ED-Video.iso GOTO NOPARAM
> f:
> cd\os2util\cdrecord\dvddao
> dvddao.exe -d 0,1,0 --priority 3,31 -v 3 I:\ed-video.iso
> I:
> PAUSE
> GOTO EINDE
> :NOPARAM
> echo Required ISO file missing !!  Have you run MAKEVIDEODVD Yet ??
> PAUSE
> :EINDE
>
>
>
> Cheers/2
>
> Ed.
 
>
> 

>
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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:22:07 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Writing DVD's

I'm pretty sure the latest version of MKISOFS is on Hobbes.

VERY important to run everything from a JFS formatted partition.

Cheers/2

Ed.

Ken Laurie wrote:
> Hi Ed
> 
> Thanks. The mkisofs that came with CD creator or least the one I have 
> seems to not be able to create large files.
> 
> I will try using your code.
> 
> regards
> Ken
> 
> Ed Durrant wrote:
> 
>> Ken Laurie wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Not sure now whether it was in this group or not, somebody was 
>>> talking about writing DVD's with OS/2. I have developed a simply 
>>> process I find works well.
>>>
>>> I use Chris Wohlmemuth's CD creator and modify the mkisof's options 
>>> to include the parameter -split-output so that the output is multiple 
>>> files, when joined together they make the iso. I find using CD 
>>> creator I can check the size of the iso easily and it simple to drag 
>>> and drop the directories I want written to DVD. This is only a data DVD.
>>>
>>> I then use a bat file to run dvddao to burn the iso to DVD. All my 
>>> batch file contains is
>>> dvddao -s 2 -d 0,1,0 -b 8 j:\cds\image.raw_00 j:\cds\image.raw_01 
>>> j:\cds\image.raw_02 j:\cds\image.raw_03 j:\cds\image.raw_04
>>>
>>> This works well for me and I don't have to be concerned with all the 
>>> parameters for mkisofs or bother calculating the size of the 
>>> resulting DVD.
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Ken
>>>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>>   Thats how I used to do it until I realised MKISOFS can create full 
>> size 4.7GB DVD images straight off. The only condition is that you 
>> need to be running this on a partition with a filesystem that can 
>> support files > 2GB in size - e.g. JFS.
>>
>> here are some command files (note mkisofs wraps to the next line in 
>> this email but not in the cmd file)
>>
>> - first of all to create the file:
>>
>> I:
>> CD\
>> IF EXIST ED-DATA.ISO THEN ERASE ED-DATA.ISO
>> F:
>> cd\os2util\cdrecord\cdrtools
>> mkisofs2.exe -l -o I:\ED-DVD.ISO -v -log-file i:\burn.log I:\ED-DVD-IMAGE
>> I:
>> PAUSE
>> :EINDE
>>
>> and now to write the data DVD:
>>
>> IF NOT EXIST I:\ED-dvd.iso GOTO NOPARAM
>> f:
>> cd\os2util\cdrecord\dvddao
>> dvddao.exe -d 0,1,0 --priority 3,31 -v 3 I:\ed-dvd.iso
>> I:
>> PAUSE
>> GOTO EINDE
>> :NOPARAM
>> echo Required ISO file missing !!  Have you run MAKEdataDVD Yet ??
>> PAUSE
>> :EINDE
>>
>> And to make a video-DVD image (the data to be written is in the 
>> correct directory structure under i:\ED-VIDEO-IMAGE
>>
>> I:
>> CD\
>> IF EXIST ED-VIDEO.ISO THEN ERASE ED-VIDEO.ISO
>> F:
>> cd\os2util\cdrecord\cdrtools
>> mkisofs2.exe -dvd-video -o I:\ED-VIDEO.ISO -v -log-file i:\burn.log 
>> I:\ED-VIDEO-IMAGE
>> I:
>> PAUSE
>> :EINDE
>>
>> And to write it:
>>
>> IF NOT EXIST I:\ED-Video.iso GOTO NOPARAM
>> f:
>> cd\os2util\cdrecord\dvddao
>> dvddao.exe -d 0,1,0 --priority 3,31 -v 3 I:\ed-video.iso
>> I:
>> PAUSE
>> GOTO EINDE
>> :NOPARAM
>> echo Required ISO file missing !!  Have you run MAKEVIDEODVD Yet ??
>> PAUSE
>> :EINDE
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers/2
>>
>> Ed.
>>
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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:46:33 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  Network cards

> Alan Duval wrote:

>>Do all network cards need drivers?

no.
only need driver if you want to send any data through the card,
otherwise, no need

;>)

>>If so, what network card has a driver for eCS?

I'd imagine most reasonable brand would

-- 
Voytek
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Date:  Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:56:38 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  I'm in real strife now!

Kev said:
> Hi Chris
> Chris_neeson wrote:

> This is not necessarily a valid conclusion to draw.  The fact is I have
> no idea at all what part of the Ubuntu install made OS/2 fail to boot.
> The really crazy thing is that I couldn't even boot OS/2 from a CD or
> floppy, and bear in mind that none of my OS/2 boot oartitions are JFS.
> The Ubuntu install didn't in any way "corrupt" any of my HPFS, FAT32,
> FAT16, NTFS, or JFS partitions - it simply set something so that OS/2
> wouldn't boot.  When I simply unplugged the the physical drive (primary
> slave) with Linux on it, eCS booted with no problems or errors.  Also, I
> have had many distros of Linux on that drive, and this is the first time
> I've encountered this problem.

I recently had  strange prob., following reinstallation of windoze 98, I
re-enabled BM, BM came up, OS/2 boot hanged. hmmm... hmmm... hm???
tried booting windoze, hanged. tried booting OS/2 from CD, hanged.. hm???

whilst I was having cup of tea to settle the nerves, I figured it out:
sip- there is no way windoze install can stop OS/2 boot
sip-  "     "     "    "       "      "   "     "   "
....

by the time I was almost finished, I figured perhaps I should power off,
and, bingo, OS/2 booted, as did windoze
I guess it was a NIC in altered state....

but, at one point , I was quite panicking, not being able to access my hd,
not even from CD boot.

-- 
Voytek
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Date:  Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:03:28 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  I'm in real strife now!

Chris_neeson said:
> Thanks Voytek.
>
> I thought somebody else reported that Linux
> corrupted ( eliminated? ) their OS2 JFS?

in my ltd exprce it seemed to work, though, shortly therefater, I
attempted to install FreeBSD, then, attempted to mount my JFS/2 HD volume

and, now it's stuffed.
me thinks me stuffed it withe FreeBSD and, not RTFM b4...

unfortunately, I just do not have time/desire/equipment to cross test it
back in OS/2. maybe I'll take the HD to work (where I have time/equipment)
and test it some more

in what I was trying to do, setup Linux on my old server, and, access data
from old server, it didn't really matter, like, if it works, good, if not,
reformat, restore from cd, works

it's all too hard, and, my forgetter is getting better

-- 
Voytek
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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:12:09 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Network cards

Alan Duval schreef:

>Hi,
>
>Do all network cards need drivers?
>  
>
Yep.

>If so, what network card has a driver for eCS?
>  
>
Everything having a driver for os2 is listed in the file nicdrv.lst.

The file is a part of  nicpak.zip, which is coing to you by private mail.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:15:23 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Network cards

Voytek Eymont schreef:

>>Alan Duval wrote:
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>>Do all network cards need drivers?
>>>      
>>>
>
>no.
>only need driver if you want to send any data through the card,
>otherwise, no need
>
>  
>
To mock with people in despair isn't very courteous, wouldn't you say so 
too?

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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Date:  Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:26:38 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  I'm in real strife now!

Voytek Eymont wrote:

> I recently had  strange prob., following reinstallation of windoze 98, I
> re-enabled BM, BM came up, OS/2 boot hanged. hmmm... hmmm... hm???
> tried booting windoze, hanged. tried booting OS/2 from CD, hanged.. hm???
> 
> whilst I was having cup of tea to settle the nerves, I figured it out:
> sip- there is no way windoze install can stop OS/2 boot
> sip-  "     "     "    "       "      "   "     "   "
> ...
> 
> by the time I was almost finished, I figured perhaps I should power off,
> and, bingo, OS/2 booted, as did windoze
> I guess it was a NIC in altered state....

I did try this, but to no avail.  After I unplugged the HDD and had 
success, I re-plugged the HDD and it failed again.  It was definitely 
something on that slave drive which caused me the grief.  Any'ow, I used 
Qparted to delete all the partitions (remember I couldn't get into eCS 
to use LVM) and it worked again, straight away.

Kev
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