Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1043
From: Digest <deadmail>
To: "OS/2GenAu Digest"<deadmail>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 00:01:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600

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Monday 07 February 2005
 Number  1043
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Subjects for today
 
1   ADSL setup : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
2  Re:  ADSL setup : Bruce <os2box at niclan.homeip dot net>
3  Re:  ADSL setup : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
4  Re:  ADSL setup : Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
5  Re:  ADSL setup : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
6  Re:  ADSL setup : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
7  Re:  ADSL setup : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
8  Re:  ADSL setup : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
9  Re:  ADSL setup : Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
10  Re:  ADSL setup : Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
11  Re:  ADSL setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
12  Re:  ADSL setup : Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
13  Re:  ADSL setup : David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:31:48 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:   ADSL setup

Hi,

Well i've finally got my ADSL Modem from TPG. I had faxed my application to them and after not hearing from 
them after 1 week, rang them and was told they hadn't received the fax so they took the order over the 
phone for ADSL connection.

Finally I received today a D-Link modem (DSL-200) with a CD to install a driver and setup in WIN 98 -  XP.
As I only have WIN95  of course it doesn't work. Anyhow I want to set it up in eCS1.1 which has been 
updated to 1.2 by a CD sent to me by Bob Traynor.

I opened the TCP/IP folder and then the TCP/IP Configuration Java console. I really don't know anything 
about this so would value your help.

So far i've selected LAN 0 from the Interface to configure list box ...... then check marked the Enable 
Interface check box for the LAN..... then selected radio button ' Automatically, using DHCP' and rebooted but 
can't connect to  http://www.tpg dot com dot au , so what else do i have to do?

I've had a look in preferences in Mozilla and Firefox 1.0 but can't see anything to configure except the home 
page.

A Quick reference sheet from tpg ADSL services says:

DNS Server
Please use the following addresses for your DNS service
Primary:    203.12.160.35	
Secondary:  203.12.160.36

Setting up Email. News Groups and Browsers
Please configure TPG as your Homepage as it will provide access to online resources and many useful links.

Use the following names for your Email and News Group services:
Mail Server:  mail.tpg dot com dot au
News Server:  news.tpg dot com dot au
For detailed instructions on how to configure these services please visit:  www.tpg dot com dot au/helpdesk

Accessing your Email using TPG's Post Office
1.  Go to TPG's home page www.tpg dot com dot au
2.  Enter your TPG Email username and password
3.  Click on "Go"

Regards,

Alan Duval

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:18:12 +0800
From:  Bruce <os2box at niclan.homeip dot net>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

I would say that your  problems are just begining  :-(      
It's a USB modem and has no ethernet port on it, so with both Win95 [non 
OSR] and ECS/OS2 your stuck! Get TPG to supply one with a ethernet port 
then we can advise you on how to set it up. Getting ECS to run on a DSL 
modem is easy stuff.

Alan Duval wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Well i've finally got my ADSL Modem from TPG. I had faxed my application to them and after not hearing from 
>them after 1 week, rang them and was told they hadn't received the fax so they took the order over the 
>phone for ADSL connection.
>
>Finally I received today a D-Link modem (DSL-200) with a CD to install a driver and setup in WIN 98 -  XP.
>As I only have WIN95  of course it doesn't work. Anyhow I want to set it up in eCS1.1 which has been 
>updated to 1.2 by a CD sent to me by Bob Traynor.
>
>I opened the TCP/IP folder and then the TCP/IP Configuration Java console. I really don't know anything 
>about this so would value your help.
>
>So far i've selected LAN 0 from the Interface to configure list box ...... then check marked the Enable 
>Interface check box for the LAN..... then selected radio button ' Automatically, using DHCP' and rebooted but 
>can't connect to  http://www.tpg dot com dot au , so what else do i have to do?
>
>I've had a look in preferences in Mozilla and Firefox 1.0 but can't see anything to configure except the home 
>page.
>
>A Quick reference sheet from tpg ADSL services says:
>
>DNS Server
>Please use the following addresses for your DNS service
>Primary:    203.12.160.35	
>Secondary:  203.12.160.36
>
>Setting up Email. News Groups and Browsers
>Please configure TPG as your Homepage as it will provide access to online resources and many useful links.
>
>Use the following names for your Email and News Group services:
>Mail Server:  mail.tpg dot com dot au
>News Server:  news.tpg dot com dot au
>For detailed instructions on how to configure these services please visit:  www.tpg dot com dot au/helpdesk
>
>Accessing your Email using TPG's Post Office
>1.  Go to TPG's home page www.tpg dot com dot au
>2.  Enter your TPG Email username and password
>3.  Click on "Go"
>
>Regards,
>
>Alan Duval
>

> 

>
>  
>
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:23:18 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Well i've finally got my ADSL Modem from TPG. I had faxed my application to them and after not hearing from 
> them after 1 week, rang them and was told they hadn't received the fax so they took the order over the 
> phone for ADSL connection.
> 
> Finally I received today a D-Link modem (DSL-200) with a CD to install a driver and setup in WIN 98 -  XP.
> As I only have WIN95  of course it doesn't work. Anyhow I want to set it up in eCS1.1 which has been 
> updated to 1.2 by a CD sent to me by Bob Traynor.
> 

Is this ADSL modem connected to your system via ethernet or USB ?

USB is a "PITH" - avoid at all costs.

You may also need to run PPoE to connect to the modem - read page23 in 
the eCS 1.2 getting started manual for how to do this.

Cheers/2

Ed.

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**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:30:49 +1100
From:  Ed Durrant <edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Alan Duval wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Well i've finally got my ADSL Modem from TPG. I had faxed my application to them and after not hearing from 
> them after 1 week, rang them and was told they hadn't received the fax so they took the order over the 
> phone for ADSL connection.
> 
> Finally I received today a D-Link modem (DSL-200) with a CD to install a driver and setup in WIN 98 -  XP.
> As I only have WIN95  of course it doesn't work. Anyhow I want to set it up in eCS1.1 which has been 
> updated to 1.2 by a CD sent to me by Bob Traynor.
> 

Just searched thru the D-Link site and eventually found the DSL200 - 
it's DLink's cheapest ADSL modem and USB only.

I suggest you send it back to TPG and request an Ethernet connectable 
ADSL modem or alternatively change to a contract where you supply your 
own modem and then go and buy a second hand ethernet connectable one off 
eBAY.

Cheers/2

Ed.
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 11:35:34 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Alan Duval schreef:

>Finally I received today a D-Link modem (DSL-200) with a CD to install a driver and setup in WIN 98 -  XP.
>  
>
Is it just an adsl adaptor, nothing more?

>As I only have WIN95  of course it doesn't work. Anyhow I want to set it up in eCS1.1 which has been 
>updated to 1.2 by a CD sent to me by Bob Traynor.
>
>  
>
That probably would be Bob Tayler ...

>I opened the TCP/IP folder and then the TCP/IP Configuration Java console. I really don't know anything 
>about this so would value your help.
>
>  
>
If the device is only an adsl adapter aka "modem", you do need ISDNPM or Injoy to make any connection. ADSL is a kind of "dial-up" technology, so you do need a program to dial-up (thus ISDNPM or Injoy). 

OTOH, as combined routers-adsl modems are rather cheap these days, my 
recommendation would be to change the DSL-200 for a genuine router-adsl 
combination. Then the router does the dial-up for you, and you wouldn't 
have to bother about these things anymore, no matter what is the 
underlying operating system.
No need for Injoy nor ISDNPM then, and your tcpip could be set to 
"automatically using DHCP".

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 11:38:30 +0100
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Bruce schreef:

> I would say that your  problems are just begining  :-(      It's a USB 
> modem and has no ethernet port on it, so with both Win95 [non OSR] and 
> ECS/OS2 your stuck! Get TPG to supply one with a ethernet port then we 
> can advise you on how to set it up.

Moreover, to simplify things, I would strongly recommend to acquire a 
router-adsl combination. These devices don't cost that much more nowadays.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris

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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:08:25 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Bruce said:
> I would say that your  problems are just begining  :-(
> It's a USB modem and has no ethernet port on it, so with both Win95 [non
> OSR] and ECS/OS2 your stuck! Get TPG to supply one with a ethernet port
> then we can advise you on how to set it up. Getting ECS to run on a DSL
> modem is easy stuff.

Dlink 302G has both Ethernet and USB, get it changed to that

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:09:48 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Kris Steenhaut said:

> Bruce schreef:

> Moreover, to simplify things, I would strongly recommend to acquire a
> router-adsl combination. These devices don't cost that much more nowadays.

yes, of course
the Dlink 302 Ethernet/USB is a router
-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:30:39 +1100 (AEDT)
From:  "Alan Duval" <amoht at ozemail dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 11:35:34 +0100, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>>
>If the device is only an adsl adapter aka "modem", you do need ISDNPM or Injoy to make any connection. 
ADSL is a kind of "dial-up" technology, so you do need a program to dial-up (thus ISDNPM or Injoy). 
>

As Ed Durrant noted the modem is USB. 
 I do have In-Joy. 
In an Email sent to me by TPG a configuration option of  Dynamic IP (PPP authentication): Modem in PPPoE 
is given.

>OTOH, as combined routers-adsl modems are rather cheap these days, my 
>recommendation would be to change the DSL-200 for a genuine router-adsl 
>combination. Then the router does the dial-up for you, and you wouldn't 
>have to bother about these things anymore, no matter what is the 
>underlying operating system.
>No need for Injoy nor ISDNPM then, and your tcpip could be set to 
>"automatically using DHCP".

Seems like I'd better change the modem. Ed says to get an Etherrnet connectable modem and Kris a 
combined router-adsl modem.  Which would be better?  I don't know anything about either. What ports are 
these connected to?
>

Thanks for the advice

Alan Duval

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**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:39:17 +1100 (EST)
From:  "Voytek Eymont" <voytek at sbt dot net dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Alan Duval said:

>>OTOH, as combined routers-adsl modems are rather cheap these days, my
>>recommendation would be to change the DSL-200 for a genuine router-adsl
>>combination. Then the router does the dial-up for you, and you wouldn't
>>have to bother about these things anymore, no matter what is the
>>underlying operating system.
>>No need for Injoy nor ISDNPM then, and your tcpip could be set to
>>"automatically using DHCP".
>
>
> Seems like I'd better change the modem. Ed says to get an Etherrnet
> connectable modem and Kris a
> combined router-adsl modem.  Which would be better?  I don't know anything
> about either. What ports are
> these connected to?

both
tpg does/can supply Dlink 302g
302g is combined "Etherrnet connectable modem " as well as "combined
router-adsl modem"
plug in ethernet cable , http://10.1.1.1, insert userid/password
done

-- 
Voytek
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**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:53:15 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Hi Alan

All the advice so far is correct.  I connected to TPG ADSL in December 
just gone.  If you can get TPG to swap your modem go for it.  If you're 
going to buy one you couldn't go past a Billion BIPAC-5100.  It has a 
router, 4 port switch, firewall and is RJ45 connected.  With the 
"router" solutions, most (if not all) of them have browser enabled 
setup, so OS isn't an issue, and the router is your DHCP server.  Mine 
was as close to PnP as it's possible to get, in XP, Linux and eCS. 
Simply browse to address stated in the comic which came with it, set up 
username and password and all the rest to automagic, and voila!!  Also, 
I've not had a moment's grief with TPG.

Happy surfing
Kev
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:55:39 +0800
From:  Kev <kdownes at tpg dot com dot au>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

Btw, I have a D-Link DSL-200 going cheap for anyone who needs it.  Still 
in the shrink-wrap.

Kev wrote:
> Hi Alan
> 
> All the advice so far is correct.  I connected to TPG ADSL in December 
> just gone.  If you can get TPG to swap your modem go for it.  If you're 
> going to buy one you couldn't go past a Billion BIPAC-5100.  It has a 
> router, 4 port switch, firewall and is RJ45 connected.  With the 
> "router" solutions, most (if not all) of them have browser enabled 
> setup, so OS isn't an issue, and the router is your DHCP server.  Mine 
> was as close to PnP as it's possible to get, in XP, Linux and eCS. 
> Simply browse to address stated in the comic which came with it, set up 
> username and password and all the rest to automagic, and voila!!  Also, 
> I've not had a moment's grief with TPG.
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**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:00:24 +1100
From:  "David Forrester" <davidfor at internode.on dot net>
Subject:  Re:  ADSL setup

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:30:39 +1100 (AEDT), Alan Duval wrote:

>
>Seems like I'd better change the modem. Ed says to get an Etherrnet connectable modem and Kris a 
>combined router-adsl modem.  Which would be better?  I don't know anything about either. What ports are 
>these connected to?
>>

Get the combined router-adsl modem.  Why:

- Simpler to setup and maintain.

- You do not need a PC to be the gateway.  If you have more than one PC
in the house, you do not need to leave one on all the time to control
the connection.

- No extra software needed to run the connection (you will need network
card and drivers, but, you will probably need them anyway).

Only get the pure modem if you are planning to run a server that is
visible from the internet.  Using InJoy as the gateway is a lot more
powerful in this situation as it's configuration is a lot more flexible
than any router-adsl modem I have seen.  And, in 90% of the cases, the
router is enough for this sort of thing.  And most routers can be
changed to a bridging mode if you change your mind later.

I use a modem with InJoy on a PC here.  But, that is because when I
bought the modem, the routers weren't available at reasonable prices. 
And I already had a PC acting as a local server and gateway, and I keep
promising to setup at least a web page that is visible to the outside
world.  But, it's been nearly three years and I haven't done it, and 
it doesn't look like happening soon :)
--
David Forrester
davidfor at internode.on dot net
http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/

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